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Stewart
January 26th, 2009, 04:06 PM
Is being gay a choice, because I don't think so, i think that you are born gay, but all my friends think that being gay is a choice.
So, is being gay a choice?
Mzor203
January 26th, 2009, 04:33 PM
Being gay, in a strict and correct sense, is not a choice. You can't chose whom you love, and gender is not any different. A heterosexual male can not choose to start loving, both physically and emotionally, other males.
So no, it is not a choice, unless there are bizarre circumstances I have not yet heard of where it could be otherwise.
ShatteredWings
January 26th, 2009, 04:52 PM
Well..
There are gay animals.
And animals can't choose that -- they don't have the mental capablity
So.. no..
(my civil argument)
Oblivion
January 26th, 2009, 06:16 PM
There are many debated on it...
But its most conclusively no, its not a choice.
theOperaGhost
January 26th, 2009, 06:19 PM
I don't believe it is a choice; we are born wired that way. That is how I feel, it can be debated, however.
Θάνατος
January 26th, 2009, 07:31 PM
NO being gay is not a choice. A person can fight those feelings but eventually it will come out. It is just who we are. I tried to hide my sexuality for years and I was miserable but now that I have come to terms with my sexuality I am more happy and I feel better about myself.
ShatteredWings
January 26th, 2009, 07:32 PM
I don't believe it is a choice; we are born wired that way. That is how I feel, it can be debated, however.
how [and religion does not count as a debatable reason]?
The Resurrected One
January 26th, 2009, 07:36 PM
NO! It isn't! Some religious people say it does because they have no idea what it's like being gay and believe the Bible.
byee
January 26th, 2009, 07:43 PM
It's funny to me as an open minded heterosexual that it's only the hets that ask this about homosexuality. They never stop and ask if their heterosexuality is a 'choice'. You might ask them this question, the responses are really interesting.
There's a lot of very mixed opinion on this, but what I've found in the scientifiic/psychological community is that most explanations that make any kind of scientific sense (and therefore based on things somewhat more objective than mere conjecture and bias), is that your sexuality, be it straight or gay, is NOT a choice.
The Resurrected One
January 26th, 2009, 07:48 PM
For those who say it's a choice say why, and any religious reason isn't good.
Atonement
January 26th, 2009, 07:52 PM
I believe that choosing who you are attracted to is not a choice. But I believe acting upon it is. You can lead a homosexual life by choice. You can lead a heterosexual life by choice. But how you are in inside, meh, complicated.
sunsings
January 26th, 2009, 07:57 PM
This makes me quick happy reading this... knowing that what ever the out come of my sexuallity is that i did not have to make the choice for once! I always hated making the hard choices in life but for once someone else made it for me!!!!
MUUHHAHAHAHA THIS WAS MY 250TH POST!!!!!!!! YA ME!!!!!!
Talia
January 26th, 2009, 09:02 PM
No, it's not a choice. I think that we're partly wired towards our sexuality and that some other circumstances can also change it a little. I for one believe few people could possibly be 100% straight.
The Resurrected One
January 26th, 2009, 09:03 PM
I for one believe few people could possibly be 100% straight.
And apparently, those people are the people I like.
theOperaGhost
January 26th, 2009, 09:18 PM
girl;432679']how [and religion does not count as a debatable reason]?
This is NOT a debate, and I'm not considering religion at all. But since you brought it up, I don't believe religion thinks it is a choice either. They don't necessarily agree with the psychology of it, but I don't think they believe it is a choice either. To religious people, homosexuals are overtaken by the devil. It is the same thing with drugs....actually it's not just homosexuality, any sexual immorality is from the devil. Religion blames everything bad in society on the devil. Now you can see how flawed that is...
Any way, it is not yet completely known if people are born with their sexuality or if it is a learned thing. There are different schools of thought saying it is learned from environment and such. Then there is the biological school of thought that say we are born with our sexuality. It is not proven either way yet.
HidekiErikku
January 26th, 2009, 09:21 PM
It is kind of both. Theres the fact that if your gay you feel more sexually inclined towards the same sex. However those are impulses that you can or cannot obey, mking it a choice.
It all really depends on the way you look at it.:P
Oblivion
January 27th, 2009, 12:17 AM
I'd like to add, that although I think it isn't a choice...
Its hard for me to wrap my mind around the fact that it isn't a choice, that it's somehow destiny.
Especially with no religion, and no 'creator' it makes me wonder how many things in life really are by choice and not wired into my brain.
NightHawksr71
January 27th, 2009, 02:45 AM
Is being gay a choice, because I don't think so, i think that you are born gay, but all my friends think that being gay is a choice.
So, is being gay a choice?
Short answer No, Its not.
Long Answer: Your born been attracted emotionally and psychically to either/both sexes but it is your choice to act on those feeling by living a homosexual, heterosexual or Bisexual lifestyle.
And yes I speak from experience, I'm Bi.
Stark
January 27th, 2009, 06:54 PM
I think you're born gay.
sunsings
January 27th, 2009, 07:00 PM
Any way, it is not yet completely known if people are born with their sexuality or if it is a learned thing. There are different schools of thought saying it is learned from environment and such. Then there is the biological school of thought that say we are born with our sexuality. It is not proven either way yet.
i like this part it sounds good! i would really like to know which one it is though! it would be kinda interesting!
phish
January 28th, 2009, 10:33 AM
NONONONONONONO it is not a choice that is a known fact!
Furn_93
January 28th, 2009, 11:07 AM
For me, I think it definitely isn't a choice
But it is a choice on whether or not you act on it.
Nick_nap
January 28th, 2009, 01:06 PM
I believe that you can't choose what you like; but you can choose your way of life.
DarkWingedAngel
January 28th, 2009, 02:21 PM
haha i had a talk with my about this not to long ago
this is what she said
if you can choose to be gay or chose to be straight then you can chose what sex your going to come out as
can a baby in it's mom womb chose to be a girl or boy....no
so you cant choose you sexually ether
it's just the way life is
now you can on the other hand find out that you like guys or girls later on after you have experimented with both
but you can't chose
rsc4life
January 28th, 2009, 08:59 PM
No I don't believe it is a choice. Perhaps it involves a series of factors, including what circumstances you were born in... But I don't believe it is a choice.
Skeln
January 30th, 2009, 08:38 PM
I say it is a coice, and isn't. I admt, you cannot choose who you fall in love with, I just think being gay/bi/straight is totally based on environment. If you live in an area with tons of gaypeople, then you'll find being gay confortable knowing that you're fitting in. Yet, if you live in a town where gays are froud upon and there are none, then you'll be less prone. I do have proof that my environment idea is true! Most granfparents and parents like to listen to older music, and not the hip hop rap stuff. yet all the kids today find rap and hip hop awesome and can't stand old music. Thius is because back in the old days, they had what to us is boring music. Now, all the older folks can't stand rap and can't understand a word of it. If you think about it, my idea is at least partially true. I'm not saying that environment completely affects you you are, just helps out.
Its based on environment. Saying that gays are born gay is like saying they have some mental problem with them since they were born. Trust me, think about it and you'll agree with me that's it's all based on environment.
Please use the edit button instead of posting twice. Thanks :)
NightHawksr71
January 31st, 2009, 02:06 AM
I say it is a coice, and isn't. I admt, you cannot choose who you fall in love with, I just think being gay/bi/straight is totally based on environment. If you live in an area with tons of gaypeople, then you'll find being gay confortable knowing that you're fitting in. Yet, if you live in a town where gays are froud upon and there are none, then you'll be less prone. I do have proof that my environment idea is true! Most granfparents and parents like to listen to older music, and not the hip hop rap stuff. yet all the kids today find rap and hip hop awesome and can't stand old music. Thius is because back in the old days, they had what to us is boring music. Now, all the older folks can't stand rap and can't understand a word of it. If you think about it, my idea is at least partially true. I'm not saying that environment completely affects you you are, just helps out.
Its based on environment. Saying that gays are born gay is like saying they have some mental problem with them since they were born. Trust me, think about it and you'll agree with me that's it's all based on environment.
I disagree, I'm 16, and absolutely hate Rap, no matter where I am or who I'm with. I also hate pop. Which pretty much the whole town loves. Environment determines very little of sexual orientation(imo), Only who comes out. Someone who's gay isn't going to come out in a town that bashes gay people for entertainment. Its self-preservation. but if the person is in a town with lots of gay-bi accepting people, they are going to feel a lot more comfortable with their orientation, enough to tell people more than likely.
It used to be thought of as a mental illness, But its not. I don't see why you would even say that tbh, Its a difference, All humans are a little different. Some are born with blue eyes, blond hair, dark skin, green eyes, short, tall etc. Some are gay, bi, lesbian or transsexual, Its a difference thats all. nothing wrong with it, nothing bad about it. its just what different people think.
I'm Bi, and I was born like this. I never had some menu when I was born giving me the choice between male or female, homosexual, or heterosexual. how i looked, or what day I was born. Not my fault, not my choice. Its just who I am.
Halibut
February 3rd, 2009, 11:53 PM
naw you become what you are. you cant just decide o for now on i like girls or guys. it comes from the heart . not from the head..
A.J.
February 4th, 2009, 08:55 PM
Other than some teens who claim to be gay or bi for attention, no sexuality isn't a choice. I somewhat believe though that a person may not necessarily be born gay. I think it could possibly be like how a fetish occurs, based on how you grew up (when, where, around who, etc.) and feelings you develope or changes in your mind and thoughts during puberty. But thats just a theory. Bottom Line: When people say it's a choice, basically they aren't educated enough or theyre stupid.
FearForMySanity
February 5th, 2009, 06:48 PM
Sexuality is definitely not a conscious choice. I feel that it is a blend of genetic and environmental(family, friends, experiences, etc.) factors, like many other personal traits.
The Batman
February 5th, 2009, 07:01 PM
Our sexuality is as much as a choice as our Skin Color.
CookieMonster
February 5th, 2009, 07:56 PM
I personally believe it's a choice. I've read no using religion as a basis, so I'll leave that out of it. Religion is my main reason though.
Maybe being attracted to someone of the same sex as you or having urges isn't necessarily a choice, but actually acting upon it, going out with people, or having sex with people of the same sex is 100% your choice whether you are conscious of the decision or not. Anyone can be gay, and anyone can be straight. It all depends on who you choose to be with. Humans have free-will and most of you guys here are from countries that allow you to use it, no one is forcing anyone to be gay/straight.
It's not a fact. It's an opinion, and everyone has one.
The Batman
February 5th, 2009, 08:09 PM
If you think being gay is a choice why don't you make it?
caseman91
February 5th, 2009, 08:13 PM
You know i'm not really sure... i'm gay but i can't say i choose it, but i also can't say that i've always felt gay... so if i absolutely had to choose i'd say being gay is neiter born into u or a choice, i say its a force of nature in some people that compells them to like one thing over the other... like taste, ur not born liking the taste of something, nor do u choose to like the taste of something... it just happenes:what:
NightHawksr71
February 6th, 2009, 01:02 AM
I personally believe it's a choice. I've read no using religion as a basis, so I'll leave that out of it. Religion is my main reason though.
Maybe being attracted to someone of the same sex as you or having urges isn't necessarily a choice, but actually acting upon it, going out with people, or having sex with people of the same sex is 100% your choice whether you are conscious of the decision or not. Anyone can be gay, and anyone can be straight. It all depends on who you choose to be with. Humans have free-will and most of you guys here are from countries that allow you to use it, no one is forcing anyone to be gay/straight.
It's not a fact. It's an opinion, and everyone has one.
The thing is, Gay/Lesbian people can lead heterosexual lifestyles with the members of the opposite sex, But they just can't love them or be happy with them the way they should. They just don't get the enjoyment out of being with the opposite sex, because they are physically and emotionally attracted to the same sex.
Let me put it this way.
Your are completely in love with this Girl, You just love her and think she is the most beautiful person in the world, you want to spend your life with her.
But you can't, Because you are under a lot of pressure, to go out with a guy, that you don't feel any love or attraction to. But everyone just wants you to go out with him.
how would you feel? thats how a lot of gay/lesbian people feel when they like someone of the opposite sex.
Lifeguard18
February 7th, 2009, 11:43 AM
I dont think it's a choice
MisterMonster
May 30th, 2009, 06:46 PM
your friends are wrong
punkjake
May 31st, 2009, 12:16 AM
IDK I think you don't get choose im not God or the creator or what ever!
Oblivion
May 31st, 2009, 01:42 AM
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