Public school V.S Home school?

[MysticalBurrito]

which do you prefer?

[theOperaGhost]

public school.

Home-schooling definitely has it's benefits in the education part of it, but I don't think school is just academic education, it's also social education. In public schools, you get both; an academic education and social skills. In real life you will need the social skills you gain by going to a public school.

Now I'm not saying all home schooled kids have no social skills. Plus there is the fact that bullying exists in public schools, which is a definite downfall.

[rsc4life]

Public school. YOu cannot always live with your parents. You have to learn how to deal with people, be them unfavorable or not. Public school has exposure and is usually good (at least where I live), homeschooling doesn't make sense unless there are no magnet schools or public schools.

[Perseus]

public school, you get to met people.

[CaptainObvious]

Frankly the majority of home-schooled kids I have met are really weird in one way or another. I'd prefer public school personally, though really I like the best, third option: private school.

[nachtspiegel]

Honestly, both options have their upsides and downsides. I mostly went to public schools, but I went to a private school for a short time and was homeschooled briefly, also. I could give you a handful of pros and cons for all three options, but I'll only do that if prompted to.

[Sage]

Homeschooling, but I'm a freak of nature. =)

[MysticalBurrito]

nah our not i was homeschooled for my first yr of school

[AutumnDae]

I really can't make a decision...

I mean public schools are good for social skills and whatnot.
But then again, home schooling allows you to move at your own pace, doesn't it?

[Dragonite]

I prefer public school cause you can make friends and colleges don't really like it if your home schooled

[MisterAndrews]

If you mean getting someone with QTS (qualified Teaching Status) to home school you, then its a good idea.

However, a parent thats not qualified is a terrible idea. They just dont have the skills to teach enough and you miss out on social skills.

[Techno Monster]

Public!
Between the random shenanigans, mascot/panther riding, club meetings, friends, lunch, art class, the occasional redneck fight, laptops, white powdery donughts in the cafeteria in the mornings, boyfriends, and sliding down the stair railings on the way to the 1st floor. Public school are WAAAAAY better than being home schooled!
And a LOT less boring.

[dray]

umm public ur with ur frends not ur parents

[Eskie Dog]

I go to a prep school

[Jean Poutine]

I'd prefer being homeschooled by a specialist because of my "spacialness", but for people that aren't autistic, I can see why public school is probably better.

[Gumleaf]

well i think the social skills you develop by mixing with others at school is just as important as the actual learning itself which is why i think public schools.

[Mzor203]

If you mean getting someone with QTS (qualified Teaching Status) to home school you, then its a good idea.

However, a parent thats not qualified is a terrible idea. They just dont have the skills to teach enough and you miss out on social skills.

Yes! I am bringing up this subject because I just had to refute this.

I am homeschooled. By my mom. And guess what? When I went to public school for a year, I got the highest average marks out of the ENTIRE school. Granted, it was only 600 people buuut... this was without studying. Ever.

So, either I am a fucking genius, or homeschooling actually has some benefits which some people are too blind to see.

Now, the other part of this homeschooling thing. The social part. I was almost homeschooled my whole life. When we were down in California, though, my birthday parties consisted of about 20 people who I all knew quite well. Why? Homeschool centers. They are places where homeschoolers can go once or twice a week to just do random stuff and hang out with each other. So not only was I able to pretty much ace every class when I did go to public school, I had a pretty healthy social life.

Now, I admit, homeschooling does not work out all the time. Your parents might not have the capability. But, for the most part, my mom doesn't even help me any more. I help choose my curriculum, I do the work, and my mom marks it. So, yea. And about colleges, there are very, very few who will not accept homeschoolers these days. Hell, Canada used to accept very few homeschoolers, but now they do.

So, homeschooling is very viable. It is an excellent decision for the earlier years of life because the children will actually behave themselves according to their parents' standards, unlike children who are subjected to the horrors of public school all day. And, they will generally be smarter, especially if disciplinary actions are taken if work is not completed. For example, there used to be a rule in our house where no one got to go on the computer until all our work was done. It worked, pretty damn well I should say. (Hehe, can't resist that computer).

So, yes, anyway. To sum up my feverish rant, homeschooling, if done right, will usually produce much better behaved and educated people than public school. granted, there are many geniuses out there, like Nick, but when I was in a nice society of homeschoolers I definitely noticed that the standards were much, much higher.

[Whisper]

i was home schooled from 5-12
it had its perks it had its downs like any system

[Zephyr]

Public

You learn vital social skills there.

It may not be as... accelerated as home,
But social skills are key for the real world.

[ShatteredWings]

Public

You learn vital social skills there.

This is one of the MOST important things you can learn at school.

Sure, homeschooling you can work at your own pace, but unless you're REALLY motivated, it's easy to fall behind for the year (unless you have a LOT of guidance...which is unlikely). Just natural.

After a year and a half, i was annoyed out of my freakin mind with being home schooled (sixth grade -- was stuck for another two grades). In the beginning it was fine, i wasn't being picked on, and i was actually working on grade level (crap school before). I had the chance to catch up to grade level. Only benefit.

Public school has a lot of stupid BS in it, most people know this, but it's a little easier to deal with. There's more order, and there are these things called "People". I know there are home school "groups", but a lot of the people in those are creepyly religious and extremely anti-social

[Mannequin]

People that are home schooled are often really weird.

[Whisper]

So is self motivation, time management and the ability to work independently without having someone breath down your shoulder
which you learn in home school

I could be in my bed at 2am or I could be on the Alaska HWY and I could do all my school
I had a classmate that flew with his dad all over Africa with doctors without boarders

Flexibility
importante

[ladybird]

I prefer public schools.
At school you can meet some people, make friends and I think studying is more enjoyable in a group... You have social life. And at home? Only you and your parents. So how will people who was taught at home for a long time behave outside?

[ShatteredWings]

So is self motivation, time management and the ability to work independently without having someone breath down your shoulder
which you learn in home school

I could be in my bed at 2am or I could be on the Alaska HWY and I could do all my school
I had a classmate that flew with his dad all over Africa with doctors without boarders

Flexibility
importante

Im not going to deny this.

but (in my mind) structure is importnant too, something that's rally hard if not imposable to get in homeschooling

[nachtspiegel]

[beginuselessrant]

I would have loved to be one of those kids that traveled all over the world with their parents and homeschooled, even though "home" would've been an off term for the situation. However, most of the kids that are homeschooled aren't all-over-the-world kids. I think that everyone has the right to undertake life as they choose: education is one major component. One system isn't for everyone, and not every kid is meant to be in public school.

To give an argument, I'll give a summation to all three types of school that I've experienced:

Public school:
Attended from the age of 4-12, and again when I was 13.
I had the chance to excel somewhere. I met a few good teachers and some good friends. I managed to win academic awards, but my "intelligence" was validated by a system that isn't usually equipped enough to cater to a variety of people. I didn't meet any of the best friends that I've ever had through public school. I didn't learn how to relate to people by going to school. The main thing I learned by attending public school was how to be told to think, and how to adhere to doing something from 8-4 - or from 6:45 to 3 after I got to the sixth grade. Eventually, the cut-and-dry "we pick everything for you" routine of the public school system wasn't a compatible match to my personality anymore, which brings me to my first bout of being homeschooled - in the 7th grade. Most school administrations are unwelcome to the idea of school reform or student individuality. Students that don't fit the prescribed norm are cast out. Too many kids sit in classrooms, suffering because they're either ahead and need a better challenge, or they're behind and need extra help - that the school district is either unwilling or unable to provide. School violence is alarming and even though some people learn the most beneficial social skills in public schools, some suffer because of the hostility that some kids can dish out. Granted, kids need to be exposed, but they don't need to be emotionally - or, in some cases, physically - beat down in school to be introduced to life.

Homeschooling:
Did three times, twice in seventh grade, and the last time beginning when I was 13. I never went back to a traditional school.
I kept getting into fights at school, and, coupled with depression and anxiety, the environment at the school I attended was bad. The classrooms had no walls, the school was heavily overcrowded and the student to teacher ratio was terrible. I've been homeschooled, technically, three times - but I'll reflect on the period that I actually did anything other than sleep - and then I'll reflect on the other two. The first time, for three months in the 7th grade, I kept to a schedule when I could - I had a hectic home life, to say the least. I was working on getting into a high-up private school, and I managed to teach myself enough to do well on the placement exam - something I wouldn't have been able to do straight from public school because the curriculum wasn't nearly well-rounded enough. I took it upon myself - as a mark of independence - to find out what other 7th graders at that school were learning, and master it - in a few months time, without help from anyone. I better learned how to handle people in the period(s) that I was homeschooled than at any time in my life, and I feel that's one major part of how I am able to handle interpersonal situations now. Now, to the con of homeschooling: my mom usually resorted to it to get herself out of bad situations - all three times, I was withdrawn from school because I was truant. The first time I homeschooled, I managed to make some progress, but the second time - after I exited the private school I just mentioned, and the third time - after I was about to be put in a group home for truancy at age 13 - I did nothing but run the streets, sleep, and cause trouble. That leads to the con of homeschooling: unless the student is motivated, and the parent is equipped to keep up, you'll see a backslide in progress and a huge case of brain rot. Educational alternatives are not the enemy: it's the people that don't know how properly to handle the situation.

Private school:
Attended in the 7th grade.
The private school I went to was very high-up. I managed to get in on scholarship - and, thankfully, because the school costs $17,000 a year - because of how I scored on the entrance and placement exams. They offered a very well rounded curriculum - I was able to take German in the 7th grade, and some of the 7th graders were taking Algebra II, or going to the "upper school" campus to take trigonometry. The downside, however, is that, with the exception of a few kids from the "wrong side of the tracks" - myself included - the student body was composed of kids that were highly sheltered and unfamiliar without the experience of knowing anything outside of the upper circle - most of their parents are doctors and lawyers, who, can obviously, afford $1,700 a month to send their kid to school. It was one of those environments where you aren't really accepted unless you started from Kindergarten, and, I quite honestly don't see them going to college next year (I was the class of '10 before I dropped out of school) without a huge shock of how the world really works unless they go to a high-end ivy league school or private college. Still, then, they'd be oblivious to the ways of the world.

Other random thoughts and viewpoints:
To reply to the idea that if you don't attend a traditional school, you are socially retarded - how, exactly, is school the complete idea of adapting to the real world? In the real world, you are not usually confined to a group of 30 people within a year of your own age in an environment where the amount of socialization that can take place is controlled by a set of appointed staff. Even though working in some settings can be a lot like school, you're not confined with a group of people that are all the same age when you're out in public, or you're on a bus or getting fucked up in a bar. On the flip side, homeschooling can be very, very bad if the kid is stuck in the house all day, being fed the world through a spoon mandated by his mother without an outside outlet for both new ideas and social experience.

I'm not trying to preach "OMGPUBLICSCHOOLISEVIL." Public schools are completely necessary. Before they were mandated on a mainstream level, too many people couldn't write their own name or read a book. It's not a complete loss, however, that some people choose to revert to old-school ways of learning how to do basic shit because the mainstream idea doesn't work for them. I'm not shy or scared to talk to people, and I sure as hell didn't learn how to talk to people in school. I rarely talked to anyone there, outside of the people that I was friends with. Making friends usually comes as being in the right place at the right time with the right setup. That can happen so many ways.

In short: I just say... live and let live. Don't knock it if you haven't tried it and ultimately, do what works for you - just because it works for you doesn't mean it's right for your neighbor. I'm sure you'd appreciate it if they took you into consideration the same way. I'm not saying that what I know about education is know-all-be-all. I don't usually write such long rants, especially about something as cut, dry, and quite frankly - boring - as education, but it is an important factor of life - one that I have contemplated at length because of dissatisfaction with the way it rolls for most people.

[enduselessrant]

[Antares]

I have no experiences with home schooling but from what I have gathered, homeschooling sucks because:

You have no interactions with other peers which may inhibit social growth.
and
You could possibly learn less...
idk

Thats what I generally think.

My kids will be sent to public schools

[Halibut]

well until this year i was going to public school . now i go to a online school which is just like home school. here are the positive and negitive with both

public school
-social interaction
-teachers at your side
-bullying
-exposure to drugs ect

home school(online school) (redeemer.ab.ca)--example of myn
- you get lonely
- can focus more easily
- no distractions
-teachers are a call away
-more freedom and more time
-freedom is not always a good thing



so in the end im more for online/home school

[Stark]

Well, I haven't been home schooled so I'm not sure.

[ThatCanadianGuy]

My BIGGEST issue with home-schooling is that it keeps kids extremely sheltered and utterly trapped from exposure to new or different ideas and ways of thinking. You just get fed whatever values/opinons/beliefs that the parents have, with NO chance to be exposed to anything else. It sets you up to be a mindless, unquestioning zombie, which is why I think it appeals so much to "particular" families (notice many homeschooled houses are devoutly religious or have very specific values that they want to PUSH on their kids).

Kids need to be allowed to explore, and question EVERYTHING so that they can become their OWN PERSON, not a carbon-copy of their parents.

[Midsummer Nights]

Homeschooling, but I'm a freak of nature. =)

Diddo. I have never been to a public school for more than a day, and it's very stressful. I like homeschooling because every day is different.

I have no experiences with home schooling but from what I have gathered, homeschooling sucks because:

You have no interactions with other peers which may inhibit social growth.
and
You could possibly learn less...
idk

no, you don't. You learn MORE, because you have more time for individual attention.

You CAN have social interaction with your peers, because there are groups of home-schoolers that get together and take classes. I have lots of friends, and I'm home-schooled.

Ya'll just don't get it. Being home-schooled Rocks!!!!!

Extra bonuses: No tests, no grades, no bullies. :woot:

Please use the edit button instead of double posting. Posts merged. -thePianoMan

[CaptainObvious]

no, you don't. You learn MORE, because you have more time for individual attention.

You CAN have social interaction with your peers, because there are groups of home-schoolers that get together and take classes. I have lots of friends, and I'm home-schooled.

Ya'll just don't get it. Being home-schooled Rocks!!!!!

Extra bonuses: No tests, no grades, no bullies. :woot:

Depends on who you are. Some people learn more, but the vast majority almost certainly learn less, overall. And I don't mean just classroom learning.

As for social interactions, you can have them as a homeschooled kid, but there's great value in being with peers for a number of hours of every day. You might be pretty normal, have lots of friends and be pretty happy with everything, but the majority of homeschooled kids I've met have been significantly less socially capable due to their inferior social experiences, and that seems true for others I've talked to about this issue as well.

As for your bonuses, no tests and no grades are a definite minus, both being critical parts of the educational experience.

[theOperaGhost]

Literally every homeschooled kid I personally know have almost no social skills whatsoever. Maybe in cities homeschooling works with having centers and such for homeschooled kids to hang out, but in a small town or farm community, it doesn't work at all. The only interactions they have all day are with their parents and their like 8 brothers and sisters. That describes my experience with homeschooled kids, but also the stories I've heard from everyone else.

[format]

I go to a public school and I still don't have any social skills. Sometimes it just doesn't work out. I don't like the idea of home school though, I'd prefer online...or maybe a school where you only go 2 times a week or something. That sounds nice.

[Sporadica]

I can't decide because here r the pros and cons of each

Public
Pros
- Good social aspect

Cons
- bullying
- distractions
- curriculum wastes time or has not very much about subjects
- incompetent teachers
- brainwashing a possibility
- negative Teachers

Homeschool
Pros
- good curriculum if built well by parent
- little distractions
- kid is taught and raised how parent wants it


Cons
- bad social aspect
- brainwashing a possibility
- possible that kid is taught wrong way and is not brainwasehd but develops a discriminatory attitude

[INFERNO]

I've never been home-schooled, so I cannot comment. However, I have been to private and public. All 3 types have their advantages and disadvantages. It also isn't very effective to generalize in this case because the schools and parents vary tremendously. What may be said may apply to 5/10 schools/parents but not the other 5/10. I think it depends on the exact school/parent, which of course, is subjective and very biased.

[ShatteredWings]

Extra bonuses: No tests, no grades, no bullies. :woot:

Where did you get "no grades" from??
I go to a public school and I still don't have any social skills. Sometimes it just doesn't work out. I don't like the idea of home school though, I'd prefer online...or maybe a school where you only go 2 times a week or something. That sounds nice.
Doesn't exist
there are cyber schools, but you still have to do work 5 days a week, and hand in assignments and stuffs

[TigerLily]

Personally, I would HATE to be home-schooled. The only reason school is ok is bc I have a group of amazing friends who I love immensely and we have a laugh everyday :D ... Home-schooling for me, I would find incredibly boring, but thats just imo

[Whisper]

which do you prefer?

you completely ignored catholic and private
which have vary different systems than public or homeskooled

[Antares]

I havent experienced it, but public..

[Tiberius]

ummm...bump from March of 2009 :locked: