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George678
January 4th, 2009, 08:08 AM
It needs a annoymous section where people can post annoymously becasue people might be embrassed etc about stuff?
Your thoughts?

Requin
January 4th, 2009, 08:26 AM
The whole idea of this forum is to help people who feel like that. They have a username, not their real name. They don't have to give out personal information if they don't want to. And no one knows who they are on here.

So if someone wants to ask a question annomalousy, they can on here.
Also, people on here who answer personal questions do not judge anyone, they are only there to help.

George678
January 4th, 2009, 08:29 AM
I suppose I think it would just work well.

Patchy
January 4th, 2009, 10:20 AM
It would require heavy moderation plus it would ruin a bit of the sense of a VT community, people can sign up with a name not related to them and also don't have to go into extreme detail when asking for advice so you can still remain anonymous when you post to a degree.

AutumnDae
January 4th, 2009, 11:10 AM
If you don't want everyone seeing your personal problems, you could send a PM to someone you trust and someone you think might be able to help you out. That way, only you and that person would know.

George678
January 4th, 2009, 11:45 AM
I actually think you are all bonkers.... it works a treat on this forum...http://www.emptyclosets.com/forum/index.php

Rutherford The Brave
January 4th, 2009, 12:40 PM
I actually think you are all bonkers.... it works a treat on this forum...http://www.emptyclosets.com/forum/index.php

No, it's too much space, too much time and not enough resources. Plus it opens the doors for those who are over or under the age of 13-19 or 18 which can in fact make things bad. Plus give us a bad reputation. Plus all this does is cause us problems, if some teenager needs help then we will help them, but we all can't be look over a section flooded with annonamous posts, from who knows what or who.

George678
January 4th, 2009, 12:42 PM
I am a forum administrator it takes up little space it takes less then 5 mins to set up...

Bobby
January 4th, 2009, 12:44 PM
Sorry, but that probably won't ever happen here. If you think it's a loss to our site, well that's bad I guess. We don't need it.

Requin
January 4th, 2009, 12:46 PM
Recently, Ben (Kiros) before he retired updated our server..to make everything bigger and much much faster.

We're all much more worried about spamming, people saying things when their under age etc, it would require some more moderators hire. You best ask Val and Ant's opinion on this really.

Underground_Network
January 4th, 2009, 12:48 PM
We don't need it as Bobby said and something I've always loved about it is how personal it feels when someone helps you. It works out better when two people feel that they kind of "know" each other a little bit.

I mean, someone anonymously saying "I'm depressed, help me" or even "I'm confused about my sexuality, halp!" would probably get better replies if they gave us more information about themselves and what type of situation their in. Another example is people asking if they're "ready for sex", I mean, we kind of need to know their age and potentially even their culture, because certain cultures just don't "allow" sex at an early age. This site was never intended to house anonymous members, and it won't.

There is no need for this section, and if you just can't understand that, then leave. You appear to be the only one supporting this cause, you have to realize you're fighting for something that's not going to happen. It's just not. I'd seriously give up now, before you just make yourself look even worse.

Rutherford The Brave
January 4th, 2009, 12:50 PM
I am a forum administrator it takes up little space it takes less then 5 mins to set up...

Look what takes a short amount of time to you may take a while to someone else. Sorry I won't support this idea.

Oblivion
January 4th, 2009, 01:48 PM
I honestly doubt this will happen.
No offense but there are many holes.
a) Anyone could post now [<12 and >19)
b) Spam would be horrible- it would require heavy moderation
c) It is not hard at all to register- 5 minutes maybe.
and
d) It does not have to be personal. Made up everything.

Kiros
January 4th, 2009, 02:10 PM
Well, for that example forum, the members are already registered and just post anonymously within the forum. In other words, these are not guest account by the look of it.

Having something like this is not a standard vBulletin feature, so unless a public modification for it exists, it would have to be coded from scratch - which is not a 5 minute operation at all.

Aside from it being able to be abused (i.e. some member bashing a few other members in public but not having their identity tied to the actions), I'm not for it because we're all people and this is a community founded on support for other teens. If an issue cannot be dealt with publicly, then it can be dealt with privately among trusted members.

George678
January 4th, 2009, 02:18 PM
We don't need it as Bobby said and something I've always loved about it is how personal it feels when someone helps you. It works out better when two people feel that they kind of "know" each other a little bit.

I mean, someone anonymously saying "I'm depressed, help me" or even "I'm confused about my sexuality, halp!" would probably get better replies if they gave us more information about themselves and what type of situation their in. Another example is people asking if they're "ready for sex", I mean, we kind of need to know their age and potentially even their culture, because certain cultures just don't "allow" sex at an early age. This site was never intended to house anonymous members, and it won't.

There is no need for this section, and if you just can't understand that, then leave. You appear to be the only one supporting this cause, you have to realize you're fighting for something that's not going to happen. It's just not. I'd seriously give up now, before you just make yourself look even worse.

Well you are silly I have run mutiple forums I know it takes 5 bloody mins to do ok I do...
You can see who posted admins...
I am sure people will want to moderate this section if they dont shows how much they give a shit about this forum...
You need to grow up it would work people like you dont try anything new.
This forum needs it if it does not happen shows how much they care about there members.

Underground_Network
January 4th, 2009, 02:24 PM
God, all you are doing is proving that you are an asshole and that you HAVE to be right. Please, get off this site. Right now, you're not making any friends. This section is not happening, I think we've all made that clear.

Get someone else to take your side, someone who's been on VT for awhile, and we'll start to listen, because you haven't made any good points, and any points you have made that might be good aren't being listened to because instead of politely stating your opinion your calling people out, claiming they're crazy or stupid.

Please, this is a failed cause, you're just making people dislike you, give up now, or get a better argument and learn how to "debate" without coming across as an asshole.

Sometimes you have to listen to other people's opinions, and sometimes you have to realize when you're just not going to win an argument...

George678
January 4th, 2009, 02:26 PM
Ok mods close this threads but it wont be the first or last time it is menitoed.

Aηdy
January 4th, 2009, 02:37 PM
Ok mods close this threads but it wont be the first or last time it is menitoed.

Trust me it's never going to happen!

Underground_Network
January 4th, 2009, 02:46 PM
George, for future information, if you want a thread closed, you don't request it by posting, you hit the red and white button with an exclamation point (that looks like an I) and state that you want it closed and why.

DarkWingedAngel
January 4th, 2009, 02:46 PM
i think it will never ever happen
it's pointless
i mean if you ask a question who knows someone might answer there own question just to get post count
the way VT works now is great
and I don't think the admins will approve of it

Sugaree
January 4th, 2009, 02:51 PM
It won't work. That's been obvious from the get go of this thread. I'm not standing up for this idea.

U_N hit the nail on it's head. You need to leave this site. You're standing up for an idea that is NEVER going to fly off the ground. Grow up, and when you do, you can return. You can't always be right.

This isn't /b/. If you want anonymous posting, then go there. Maybe you'll make friends there.

Atonement
January 4th, 2009, 02:58 PM
How is it not already anonymous? Like, its the internet, you don't have to post your name, address, and social security number. Its completely anonymous. Whats the point of an anonymous section, even in that forum you cited, when it is A. still showing post count which can totally give away the person, and B. its the internet, its not like it truly matters if you are embarrassed. If you are too embarrassed to post something, then don't post it at all. Simple.

Requin
January 4th, 2009, 03:01 PM
Has anyone noticed how bitch we all get when someone has a go at the site??
It's nice in a way, it shows how much the site means to us...or is it that we just all like bitching????????

George doesn't have to leave the site...that's a bit over the top, but I doubt that this will ever come to pass. And I hope he doesn't mention this again, for his sake.

Underground_Network
January 4th, 2009, 03:06 PM
^^ My point on him "leaving the site" is that he's not being very nice to veteran members of the site. He initially was calling us out and saying things that implied we were crazy and/or stupid. He wasn't making himself welcome on this site.

You always have a second chance on this site, and sometimes even a third chance. Even I've screwed up and pissed a bunch of people off on here in the past. He still has a chance, I just think he should take a break, realize he can't always be right and that criticizing people who don't agree with his ideas is NOT a good idea. You don't criticize, you prove your point.

I think he understands this at this point, and I really think this thread should be locked before things get out of control here. There's no need to argue over arguing about arguing. ;)

george
January 4th, 2009, 03:39 PM
A. still showing post count which can totally give away the person

Actually if you look around on the thread, you'll see that everyone that has ever posted anonymously is labeled "Anonymous" with "Posting Anonymously" under the name and "Posts: 6,842 Join Date: Dec 2007" on everyone of the posts. Just saying :]

B. its the internet, its not like it truly matters if you are embarrassed. If you are too embarrassed to post something, then don't post it at all. Simple.

It's true that it really doesn't matter if you're embarrassed on the internet but that doesn't mean you should post it. That's what one of the main reasons why people go onto the internet, because you can be anonymous, in the sense that you're not saying where you live and whatnot, but that doesn't mean you shouldn't post it.

If you're to embarrassed to post something to everyone on VT, then PM someone about your problem and I'm sure they'll be happy to help.

No one should be to embarrassed to post anything on VT, of course as long as it goes with the rules of VT :]

Antares
January 4th, 2009, 03:45 PM
It needs a annoymous section where people can post annoymously becasue people might be embrassed etc about stuff?
Your thoughts?

Right now, I see a few things that can identify you (location, etc). However, if a person feels embarrased, just clear your profile and ask away. No one will have ANY idea who the person is.
Its a matter of how much you give away.
So there is NO need for a section/feature like this.

Oblivion
January 4th, 2009, 03:47 PM
If you're to embarrassed to post something to everyone on VT, then PM someone about your problem and I'm sure they'll be happy to help.

No one should be to embarrassed to post anything on VT, of course as long as it goes with the rules of VT :]

Just a side note: PMs have the same rules as posting- nothing explicit, etc.
If you wouldnt post it [because of rules], then don't PM it.

Maverick
January 4th, 2009, 04:04 PM
If you want to post something anonymous, send me or any other staff member a private message. Let us know what you want to be posted, and I'll happily post the thread for you and make it explicitly clear its for an anonymous poster. Its an easy solution that requires no coding or special hacks to make possible.

I think no one can find a problem with that solution.

george
January 4th, 2009, 04:06 PM
Just a side note: PMs have the same rules as posting- nothing explicit, etc.
If you wouldnt post it [because of rules], then don't PM it.

Yeah thats what I meant, just that I added that other sentence after and didn't add that in.

Neverender
January 4th, 2009, 05:35 PM
Ok mods close this threads but it wont be the first or last time it is menitoed.

actually once I look back, this has never been requested before (i don't think), and i suspect the only reason someone else will ask for it, is if you are the someone else by making a new account to ask for this. Ain't gonna happen, and if your such an admin, why don't you design it from scratch then, in 5 minutes.

Rutherford The Brave
January 5th, 2009, 12:01 AM
I doubt it will come up again, no one cares and it won't happen so end of story.

Neverender
January 5th, 2009, 12:50 AM
and i also feel that i should point out, if your embarrassed of a post because of what you did (or something of that context), people on here don't judge. we won't make fun of you or anything if you did something that your embarrassed about.

George678
January 5th, 2009, 02:00 AM
George, for future information, if you want a thread closed, you don't request it by posting, you hit the red and white button with an exclamation point (that looks like an I) and state that you want it closed and why.
I know that does it but it sends a bloody email out to all the mods and i dont want to do that I do know what I am talking about I know vb like the back of my hand.
actually once I look back, this has never been requested before (i don't think), and i suspect the only reason someone else will ask for it, is if you are the someone else by making a new account to ask for this. Ain't gonna happen, and if your such an admin, why don't you design it from scratch then, in 5 minutes.

I could if you want but it wont happen.
Because mods are'nt in a postition to do that.

Sapphire
January 5th, 2009, 03:35 AM
Well you are silly I have run mutiple forums I know it takes 5 bloody mins to do ok I do...
You can see who posted admins...
I am sure people will want to moderate this section if they dont shows how much they give a shit about this forum...
You need to grow up it would work people like you dont try anything new.
This forum needs it if it does not happen shows how much they care about there members.
This forum has been running since 2004. We have never needed a section such as this and never will.

If anyone needs to grow up, it is the 13 year old who has only recently joined and decided that because we don't have/want this that we are all stupid.

If this anonymous section is so important to you why don't you use another forum that has it as well as this one?

George678
January 5th, 2009, 03:39 AM
I dont need to use I have'nt used on the other one either I am saying other people might want to use it.

Sapphire
January 5th, 2009, 03:48 AM
If you don't need it and none of us need it, why are you pushing it so hard and insulting those who disagree with you?

George678
January 5th, 2009, 03:49 AM
No I am not the fact this forum does not want something that other might need if they are shy etc is shit I am sorry but your mad if you dont want it.

Sapphire
January 5th, 2009, 03:55 AM
If people are shy then they can (as previously stated) send a pm to someone they think can help or get someone to post anonymously on their behalf. There really is no need for our admin to waste their time setting this up.

Btw, if we're mad then you must be too

George678
January 5th, 2009, 04:02 AM
What if they dont want to pm?
What if they want more people help or opion?

We have some sad people here too:
Really is immuture

Sapphire
January 5th, 2009, 04:05 AM
What if they want more people help or opion?
They can get more detailed help by having their username displayed at the top of the post.
If they don't want that then this is an option:

If you want to post something anonymous, send me or any other staff member a private message. Let us know what you want to be posted, and I'll happily post the thread for you and make it explicitly clear its for an anonymous poster.

George678
January 5th, 2009, 04:08 AM
But somebody might join in 2 years time and not seen that make that an accoucment then?

Sapphire
January 5th, 2009, 04:11 AM
There is no need for an announcement. Nothing like this has happened and will likely never happen.

George678
January 5th, 2009, 04:14 AM
But I think it should be

Gumleaf
January 5th, 2009, 05:51 AM
i think this arguement should end here.

locking