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mr.sexy_bomb
December 27th, 2008, 05:18 PM
ok so my boyfriend (Robert) used to smoke weed now i made him quit drugs but he says weed is natural and theres nothing to worry about, is it true? i mean arent all kinds of drugs bad in someway?

Oblivion
December 27th, 2008, 05:32 PM
No its not true. Although weed is a plant, it isn't necessarily grown for humans to smoke. Not only is it illegal, its harmful to your body
Good job getting him to quit. Illegal drugs are rarely helpful.

Skhorpion
December 27th, 2008, 11:52 PM
There's a big debate about whether weed is harmful or not. Some studies have shown it helps with lung cancer and one study proved it causes neurogenesis (the growing of new brain cells) in rats. Smoking a lot (as in every day, several times a day) will decrease lung capacity by about 3 percent, as proved by the documentary Super High Me.

As of today, weed alone has never directly killed anyone, which shows that it isn't lethal alone by any means.

Use your discretion, remember opium is natural too and we all know its addictive potential.

If he continues to smoke and you think he's harming himself, see if you can get him to use a vaporizer. A vaporizer simply boils the THC off the plant, causing absolutely no tar or anything else to be produced. You can tell him its a more efficient way of smoking and will get him higher off of less weed, which is perfectly true.

mr.sexy_bomb
December 28th, 2008, 02:46 AM
yeah he stoped(he also stop drinking)for me since i dont do/like drugs but he was just saying its not harmful and it didnt matter which is why i asked that question.
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what is the legal age for drinking?

Oblivion
December 28th, 2008, 03:18 AM
In the US the legal age to buy alcohol is 21.
Actually drinking it is less strict, especially on private property,
But remember... The laws are for a reason. They arent made just to torture people, they are made to help you. Drinking is restricted to 21+ because it is harmful to the growth and health of teens and kids.

Atonement
December 28th, 2008, 03:30 AM
Marijuana specifically has no proven health defects if taken orally. Smoking, as in inhaling any smoke, no matter whats burnt, is bad for the lungs.

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But, all drugs are bad in some way. A dependancy on a drug is bad. Even prescription drugs. We are not meant to intake these things. Furthermore, it can cause an economical problem with the costs of the substances being consumed.

Skhorpion
December 28th, 2008, 04:43 AM
Vindication: As with vaporization though, it's not really smoke, its THC mist. Smoke contains tar, THC mist does not.

Atonement
December 28th, 2008, 04:47 AM
Vindication: As with vaporization though, it's not really smoke, its THC mist. Smoke contains tar, THC mist does not.


I just chose to ignore that form and KISS. Keep it simple stupid. YAY acronyms

byee
December 28th, 2008, 12:01 PM
Tell Robert that heroin is 'all natural', too. So's AIDS. Tuberculosis, cancer, too. Just because something is 'natural' doesn't mean it's OK or good, he's rationalizing his behavior. Rather poorly, too.

Sucking hot MJ smoke into your lungs is related to many health problems, again, people tend to cherry pick the data to support their behaviors and opinions. Go noodle around the internet, spend time on reliable medical sites and go see.

Skhorpion
December 28th, 2008, 02:09 PM
Tell Robert that heroin is 'all natural', too. So's AIDS. Tuberculosis, cancer, too. Just because something is 'natural' doesn't mean it's OK or good, he's rationalizing his behavior. Rather poorly, too.

Sucking hot MJ smoke into your lungs is related to many health problems, again, people tend to cherry pick the data to support their behaviors and opinions. Go noodle around the internet, spend time on reliable medical sites and go see.

Heroin isn't natural. Morphine is, but not heroin.

Kaleidoscope Eyes
December 28th, 2008, 02:28 PM
Weed in itself isn't physically addictive or proven to cause health problems. As has been said though, any kind of smoke or vapor from burning plants (or other things) really shouldn't be in the lungs, and that's what is potentially harmful later on. Especially if its being smoked in excess.

My boyfriend is fond of his ganja too. He's even growing his own, he has a plant he calls Lucy. He's also a big Bob Marley fan. xP The reason I don't object to it is because he's responsible. It's a social thing for him, he doesn't smoke it just to smoke it. He smokes a little with his friends, he's grown up in a household where it's ok to do so, so he's not doing it to rebel against his parents, and he doesn't let himself get totally baked. He gets a buzz, enough to feel it, but if he starts to feel like he can't see straight or has troubles concentrating or whatnot, he'll step down a bit. He's very aware. He also knows that I hate talking to him when he's stoned, and he respects that by trying not to go crazy when he knows he's likely to talk to me before he comes back down. I know he'd quit if it bothered me enough; we intend to get married in late '10, and he doesn't want to jeopardize our lives together over weed. He's also quit all of the heavier stuff, he always asks me if he wants to smoke a joint while we're on webcam together. If it'll bother me, he'll let it wait. Personally, if he's gonna smoke weed that's the way I'd prefer it to be.

Yes, all drugs are bad. If Robert isn't himself when he's high, to the point that he does stupid things or you can't stand to be around him when he's like that, tell him. Tell him he needs to step it back a bit, not just because of you but because it's not good for him to let himself go like that. Weed is only really addictive in the sense that if you like it, you wanna do it again. He can break the habit if he tries, he won't go through any real withdrawals like with the heavier stuff. Decide how big of a deal this is for you. Also, it may help to do your own research online, instead of taking his word for everything. Yes, he smokes it. But he doesn't know everything, and it's good to know myth from fact.

mr.sexy_bomb
December 28th, 2008, 05:09 PM
oh he knows that i dont like him high and thats why he doesnt do it around me atleast

Kaleidoscope Eyes
December 28th, 2008, 05:48 PM
Good to hear. :)

If it bothers you that he smokes it at all, don't feel shy about telling him. Don't be critical, or give him an ultimatum (I don't think the situation calls for it), just let him know that you're concerned for him. If you have a specific problem with the weed, now is the time to come clean with it. He's already quit smoking around you, so he may want a reason for why you want him to cut back altogether. I don't think he'll immediately say "well, ok then!" and quit, but if you listen to his side of the story and stay calm about it (but not a pushover) he's likely to think about what you're saying. If he says no, you need to think about how much it bothers you and whether you can deal with it, and what you might do if it escalates.

mr.sexy_bomb
December 28th, 2008, 06:18 PM
ok but the thing is i dont know if he still smokes and or drink, i mean he hasnt done it infront of me, well once he drank and i hate beer so he did it on purpose but it wuz just a lil bit and i looked at him then i looked at something else and he wuz like i am sorry and then he went and brush his teeths and then he came back and i was sitting on the couch so he sat next to me and then he hugged me and he said he wouldnt do it again but i am not sure if he is keeping his promise which i hope he is

Dragonite
January 1st, 2009, 02:32 PM
Like can't u look in his eyes can't you tell from peoples eyes if they have been doing things
Like that?

Kaleidoscope Eyes
January 1st, 2009, 04:09 PM
Well, if he's stoned and/or drunk, yes, probably. My cousin is an alcoholic, and I know that when he's wasted his eyes glass over and it's like he's not even behind them anymore. It's pretty obvious he's not right. If someone doesn't have a lot in their system, or their eyes just tend to look the same, looking at their eyes may not be a good indicator. Besides, things like bloodshot eyes or large pupils (the two things people tend to think of) can be caused by other factors. I think Axel's main concern is that his boyfriend is doing this when he's not around him, and just staying clean when he is around.

Axel, ask him. Let him know you're not trying to pick a fight you just wanna know. You have a right to know what illicit substances your boyfriend enjoys in his spare time. If his answer bothers you, tell him and calmly explain why. Try to find a compromise. If none can be reached, you need to decide how important it is to you that he quit, and he needs to decide how important it is to him that he not quit. He'll have plenty of time to drink when he's legal (hopefully not getting drunk a lot though), and when you're older maybe you'll loosen up a little on the weed thing. But is it that important to him? Is it because he'd feel weird with his friends if he's the odd man out? What's so important to him about this? Those are things to find out, so you can work through this and have a happier relationship together.