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Justin16
December 19th, 2008, 04:40 PM
Not really teen sexuality but I would like to pose nude for a group of people to paint me in an art class.

It really isn't for sexual reasons, I just feel it would be cool to have people paint me naked while being vulnerable.

Is this weird?

I cant see any legal issues, as Bill Hensen did not break any laws when he photographed nude children.

Requin
December 19th, 2008, 04:42 PM
In your own school?
Well if it is in your own school then yes it would be slightly wierd. For you and them that is.

I've definatly never ever heard of this before though. But if you want to do it. :-)

Justin16
December 19th, 2008, 04:44 PM
No I mean in a professional art class.

You know how they have a guy or girl standing in a pose out the front while the class paints or draws figures of them?

I just find it kinda beautiful.

Requin
December 19th, 2008, 04:46 PM
Well as long as it's not in your own school/college etc

Yeah I guess that's fine.
Is there an age limit or something?

Justin16
December 19th, 2008, 04:46 PM
To a moderator: Please move this thread to artwork... that would be a better forum

byee
December 19th, 2008, 08:52 PM
I don't know what the rules are in Oz, but here in the US, a 16 y/o is still a minor and you might need your folks permission for that. And if the artists are adults, I'm not sure it would be legal, being in a room with them naked and all.

So much for the legal stuff. On a psychological level, it might be worthwhile for you to try to understand more fully why being naked and vulnerable in front of a group of strangers is desoiable for you. Most people would find that rather unsettling, you know. And whenever you recognize that a desire is going against the grain, it's a good idea to try to understand why.

Antares
December 20th, 2008, 01:11 AM
I am not sure that is acceptable by society, seeing you are a teen.
However, I understand your want to to do this

Prince_of_Peace
December 20th, 2008, 03:41 AM
I"ll do it for free...but I might get a boner...if that is still okay with everone.

Patchy
December 20th, 2008, 05:00 AM
It really depends, firstly go to a proper art gallery to pose/college, not just someones house.

I would also make sure you know where your art work is going to be displayed since I don't think you would want all your mates to see.

I would also advise you to make sure the work painted/pictured of you is not going to be posted on any websites which are illegal.

Atonement
December 20th, 2008, 09:13 AM
I believe that nude photography is beautiful. The human body is amazing. BUT. Being as young as you are, I would beware not to be exploited. Patchy has good adivce ^^

I'm personally against it, but if you are going to do it, be smart about it.

Justin16
December 21st, 2008, 06:48 AM
Well Bill Hensen took nude photos of girls and boys who were "pre-pubescent" and he did not break any law, and even the classification office rated his images as "PG".

I'm well into puberty and almost an adult so isn't it more OK for me who can actually consent?

I believe that nude photography is beautiful. The human body is amazing. BUT. Being as young as you are, I would beware not to be exploited. Patchy has good adivce ^^

I'm personally against it, but if you are going to do it, be smart about it.I don't understand.

You first say you think nude photography is beautiful (and I suspect this also means nude painting and drawing), but then say you're against it?

I might be only 16, but I feel I am fully developed enough. It wouldn't be like people sketching or painting a guy who is 12 years old who is still developing.

I'm 6'8" tall, I shave every second day, I got some chest hair and my penis and balls are fully developed like a man.

So I cant see any issues. What would be the difference between now and when I am 18? I don't think my private parts are going to change that much between now and then because they have already changed into a fully adult feature.

Here is a story about a Australian artist, Bill Henson, who took photos of nude girls (younger than me): http://www.smh.com.au/news/arts/henson-photo-not-porn/2008/06/05/1212259014096.html

I just want my body to also be part of this realm of art, and I only have 2 more years to do it because once I am 18 it is not controversial / doesn't make people question.

Isn't art about provoking debate and making people question?

I just want my body to make people debate and question as well.

I"ll do it for free...but I might get a boner...if that is still okay with everone.You're kinda gross.... We're not talking about pornography, we're talking about art.

Archer600
December 21st, 2008, 04:03 PM
If I want to then do it and it's not realy weird it's the human body everybody has one

Kiros
December 21st, 2008, 04:03 PM
Justin, let's not triple post. Alright?

If you missed something in one of your recent posts and no one has replied, just use the big button that says "Edit" on it.

Justin16
December 21st, 2008, 08:38 PM
Justin, let's not triple post. Alright?

If you missed something in one of your recent posts and no one has replied, just use the big button that says "Edit" on it.Yes but they were separate replies to separate people.

Your edit has now ruined the "separate" nature of the posts.

I really don't see the big deal if people reply to different people using separate posts, does it really make much of a difference, except for within a persons mind (I think they call that being anal or something).

Maverick
December 21st, 2008, 08:41 PM
Yes but they were separate replies to separate people.
Even if you reply to different people, you are still required to keep it all in one post. Those are the rules to our forum. Please respect them.

Justin16
December 21st, 2008, 08:46 PM
Even if you reply to different people, you are still required to keep it all in one post. Those are the rules to our forum. Please respect them.I'll keep that in mind from now on. I'll respect the rule, but don't get angry when I respect the rule and end up with a posts that are extremely long.

I can also be anal about things.

Maverick
December 21st, 2008, 08:50 PM
Get angry for making a long post? That really doesn't make any sense. We have nothing in the rules about long posts - only double, triple posting, etc.

Justin16
December 21st, 2008, 09:19 PM
Get angry for making a long post? That really doesn't make any sense. We have nothing in the rules about long posts - only double, triple posting, etc.Kind of like the law that says a person should be executed for putting salt on a train track.

Sorry, just my opinion.

It is sort of like the rule regarding posting on "old threads", but the minute someone makes a new post on a topic, the moderators say: "use the search tool". But when someone does search and then posts on an "old thread", the it then becomes a grave sin and the person is mocked and the thread locked.

It is so contradictory.

The Batman
December 21st, 2008, 09:30 PM
If you have a problem with the staff please take it up with them in a private message.

Bobby
December 21st, 2008, 09:32 PM
Please everyone stay on topic and be respectful.

Antares
December 21st, 2008, 09:37 PM
Okay, that only applies to certain forums just so you know.

With particular emphasis in the Puberty forums (seeing as I am a moderator in both GD and P101 sections) there are obviously different techniques moderating them. So it is enforced more to not bump more threads than other threads.
So if you search, there should be no reason to post in the thread considering all you need is information.

Anywho, get on topic

Atonement
December 21st, 2008, 11:41 PM
I don't understand.

You first say you think nude photography is beautiful (and I suspect this also means nude painting and drawing), but then say you're against it?

I might be only 16, but I feel I am fully developed enough. It wouldn't be like people sketching or painting a guy who is 12 years old who is still developing.

I'm 6'8" tall, I shave every second day, I got some chest hair and my penis and balls are fully developed like a man.

I believe that nude art is beautiful. The body is beautiful. But I never said I am against it. I am against the idea of you, at your younger age, posing nude. If you want to pose nude, I'm not the one to stop you, but I advise you to be safe and do it safely and correctly.

No matter your development, you sitll need to be safe and even if you are developed, you are still underage and not fully developed no matter how much you might think so.


So I cant see any issues. What would be the difference between now and when I am 18? I don't think my private parts are going to change that much between now and then because they have already changed into a fully adult feature.

I just want my body to also be part of this realm of art, and I only have 2 more years to do it because once I am 18 it is not controversial / doesn't make people question.

Isn't art about provoking debate and making people question?

I just want my body to make people debate and question as well.

@ first paragraph: Even if you aren't 18, its still a child posing naked, which though the body is beautiful, is going to require parental consent, SO, if your parents are involved, I have no problem.

@ rest, okay, now I take back EVERYTHING I said about supporting you. If the only reason you are interested in this is to get attention and people talking, you are doing it for the wrong reason. That's ridiculous. Why would you WANT to cause controversary and possible conflict for yourself? Bad idea. You have to have the right attitude towards it. Not just wanting attention.

JohnnyFreight
December 22nd, 2008, 07:46 AM
Well, I can't comment on the legality of that because I am not one who really bother with that. People who think that the law is right because it's "the law" need to be reminded that "the law" kept some of us at the back of the bus for quite a while and wouldn't even let us all drink from the same water fountain.

I don't find it weird at all. We where born naked and clothing is man made. Anyone who thinks seeing genitals is going to psychologically damage you is crazy, i dont care how old you are. Compulsive fig-leafing does wayyy more harm then good. Just look at nudists, they have much more respect for the human body then most of us. You guys should check out a book called The Politics of Lust by John Ince. It really makes you think about how our culture views nudity and sexuality. Ince makes a quite a few very good arguments.

It's not weird at all weather it be in a professional art class or in high school, if theyd allow it. I think if they did after a while people would be more mature about that kind of thing.

I love nude art it's so beautiful, even erotic nude art. It's actually one of my favorite types of art. And honestly, anyone in the class who thinks it's weird shouldn't be there.
I SAY DO IT, IF YOU HAVE THE COURAGE! I THINK IT'S AWESOME!

Techno Monster
December 24th, 2008, 06:04 PM
If you feel okay with it then go for it. :)