future computer

[nwshc]

AMD Athlon 64 X2 4400+ / 2MB Cache / 2000MHz FSB / Socket 939 / Dual-Core / Processor with Fan
529.99 http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=1446877&Tab=11&NoMapp=0

XFX GeForce 6600 GT / 128MB DDR3 / PCI Express / SLI / Dual DVI / TV Out / Video Card
149.99 http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=1118390&CatId=1559

Maxtor Serial ATA
200 gb hdd 99.99 http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=1481536

DFI NF4 Infinity NVIDIA Socket 939 ATX Motherboard / Audio / PCI Express / Gigabit LAN / USB 2.0 & Firewire / Serial ATA / RAID
89.99 http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=1495397&CatId=0

Kingwin KT424 Black Aluminum Case With Clear Side, Front USB and FireWire
99.99 http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=615076&CatId=0

Xion / 400W / Ver 2.0 ATX / Dual 80mm Fan / SATA-Ready / PCI-E Ready / 20/24-Pin / Power Supply
59.99 http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=1566999&CatId=0

Kingston Dual Channel 1024MB PC3200 DDR 400MHz Memory (2 x 512MB)
89.99 http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=84387&Tab=11&NoMapp=0

Logitech Labtech Pulse 485 PC Multimedia Speakers
22.99 http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=1189495&CatId=488

Lite-on / 16x4x16x DVD+RW / 12x4x16x DVD-RW / 4x DVD+R DL / 48x24x48x CD-RW / DVD Writer with Black and Biege Faceplates
44.99 http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=1366730&CatId=89

Masscool / Socket 754/939 / AMD Athlon 64 / Ball Bearing / Copper / CPU Cooling Fan
39.99 http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=1504090&CatId=1188

Microsoft Windows XP Pro Edition OEM Version 139.99 http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=335900&Sku=M17-7502

Arctic Silver 5 Thermal Paste - 3.5 Grams
8.00 http://www.frozencpu.com/thr-16.html


Total = $1347.88

ok, i have a budget of $1500
Should i add on anywhere, take off anywhere?
I will be gaming, but not hardcore, and i will be using it for websurfing, making websites, flash animation etc.
And is everything compatible with eachother?

[Skhorpion]

take out the OCZ thermal gunk and get Arctic Silver 5

you can get it at www.frozencpu.com

[Gothic_Knight]

DON'T get the 6600NU. Get a 6600 GT at least, preferably a 6800 GS...

[Kiros]

At least a 6600GT (which is what I have)

That'll keep your computer running smooth with practically any game :)

But if you can, then a 6800GT because of the optimized core clock & better hardware independent rendering.

[Skhorpion]

or you can get an X800 and pwn nvidia

[nwshc]

ok, looking good.
last think is am i going to have any compatibility issues between hardware and hardware, and hardware and software?

[Skhorpion]

no

[Kiros]

I'm not doing any checks because I trust kid's decisions... except his sick ATi fedish :P

[Skhorpion]

everyone knows that ATI can beat nvidia any day of the week

[Kiros]

That's not what nVidia showed by coming out with the next-gen card months before ATi even thought about it :P

[Skhorpion]

ATI came out with crossfire months after nvidia came out with sli and they apparently cared because it has better performance, more features, more flexibility, and more stability

[Kiros]

It only has more flexibility :roll:

And what would you expect months later lol

[Skhorpion]

more features = crossfire supports like 8? monitors while SLi supports two and even so its buggy

as said earlier dual X1800XT beat dual 7800GTX

how can you not think ATI > nvidia

[Kiros]

As the 7800 was released so much earlier too. Plus, the crossfire is the buggy one - not SLi. As showed with DFI's spectactular example. Never seen that happen with an nVidia chipset :lol:

[Skhorpion]

it wasnt the chipset that killed the DFI board

it was a switch that put way to much impedance on it

DFIs folly there

[Kiros]

Like I said, haven't seen nVidia's stuff mess up quite as badly :P

[Skhorpion]

still it wasnt ATI's fault

their chipset works fine

DFI screwed that up

[Kiros]

Riiiight... excusses :P

[Skhorpion]

pfft ur just mad that ATI pwns nvidia every way possible

[Gothic_Knight]

everyone knows that ATI can beat nvidia any day of the weekThey STILL haven't learned to beat the 6600 GT at the same price range...

[Skhorpion]

is there an nvidia equivalent of an all in wonder card?

[Kiros]

Dunno, does ATi?

But I do find it funny how you're bashing nVidia's technology when they actually released SLi about a year before CrossFire was out AND they came out with the 7800GTX months and months before the next-gen card from ATi was released. :lol: ATi probably just reverse engineered nVidia's card and drivers and put in something else to make it look different, and slapped an ATi logo on it - after jacking up the price, of course.

[Skhorpion]

pfft ATI has All in Wonder cards while nvidia has what? they have nothing similar to an AIW card

[ThePhantom]

its the 'choice of gamers' for pretty much every fps that i would play if i had an nVidia .. but i CANt seeing how im on an old ATI card on my laptop . . i have a gForce ##### something ready for my pc im building .. its not speecial but it will get by

[Gothic_Knight]

Dunno, does ATi?

But I do find it funny how you're bashing nVidia's technology when they actually released SLi about a year before CrossFire was out AND they came out with the 7800GTX months and months before the next-gen card from ATi was released. :lol: ATi probably just reverse engineered nVidia's card and drivers and put in something else to make it look different, and slapped an ATi logo on it - after jacking up the price, of course.Actually, the "real" X1800XT would have raped the GTX for everything it had.

If it wasn't for the yield problems..but that's all behind now.

[Skhorpion]

of course it would

ATI made it

[Kiros]

Riiiight :) Well now that ATi FINALLY came out with a next-gen card, nVidia and ATi can actually compete. ATi nor nVidia will let either surpass one another, that's just how the market works.

[Skhorpion]

how can you say that

nvidia has already been surpassed

[Gothic_Knight]

Riiiight :) Well now that ATi FINALLY came out with a next-gen card, nVidia and ATi can actually compete. ATi nor nVidia will let either surpass one another, that's just how the market works.Well, if you're rich enough to buy one of the 10 (I'm not kidding), then you'd see.

32 pipes on a 90 nm process would kill a 24 pipe card on a 110 nm process.


Anyway, as far as performance goes, GTX 512 wins. But performance for price in the highend would be the X1800 XT

[Skhorpion]

64 pipes on a 90nm process dual core pwns all of the above

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wow i am rele confused of all the comp talk u guys r talking about

[Skhorpion]

the processor bone connects to the... motherboard bone

the RAM bone connects to the... motherboard bone

the IDE interface bone connects to the... motherboard bone

computers are easy

just make sure you have a gigabit NIC/switch handy or else u will be pwnt like totaly chown -R us ./base

got root?

[Kiros]

how can you say that

nvidia has already been surpassed

Don't be ignorant. nVidia had ATi surpassed, and what did they do? Wait 6 months and released a card that surpassed nVidia. Now, that ATi finally got up to speed, nVidia will release another card that will make ATi look like child's play. Have you ever picked up on this? This is called competition. nVidia (and I'm sure ATi) could release a card so powerful that it would be envied for years, but then it would cost way too much, so companies gradually increase performance and cost. It's the way of the market - get over it. And even though ATi finally picked up on correctly rendering OpenGL, it's still slower than a GeForce 5's rendering :lol:

[Kiros]

I know this is a double post, but it's climatic, so it doesn't matter...

OK Kid, you straight up want the details? This article was published Dec. 1st, so don't complain about it having wrong details.

Like I've said all the time, nVidia pwns ATi! (clicky) (http://www.gamepc.com/labs/view_content.asp?id=h2k5512&page=12)

BTW, the first link is to the last page, having the conclusion, so you can read the entire atricle if you want by going here: nVidia VS ATi (clicky) (http://www.gamepc.com/labs/view_content.asp?id=h2k5512&page=1&cookie%5Ftest=1)

And if you don't like going straight to the source, here's the last and final paragraph for the conclusion: In conclusion, nVidia certainly has a better overall product, but it also costs quite a bit more as well. If you’re willing to drop the cash on the 7800 GHz 512 MB, you’ll be treated to the finest graphics card on the market. The Radeon X1800 XT 512 MB (at around $600) is nearly 25% cheaper, but does not perform quite as well and is a bit louder under heavy loads. It's a tough call in terms of price/performance, but if money is no concern, nVidia would be our choice.

So kid, you were saying? :)

[Skhorpion]

you can replace the fan with a quiet one and throw that sucker on Crossfire and pwn the crap out of anything else

[Kiros]

Yeah, if you wanna break it, and void the warranty. And it might be able to pwn anything from any other company, except nVidia. Even with it's faulty crossfire. :)

[Skhorpion]

are you kidding me

modding and voiding warranties is awesome

[Kiros]

Only if it's something big, and then no one can tell :)

[Skhorpion]

hot glue and duct tape can fix anything

i have proved that

[Kiros]

hot glue and duct tape can fix anything

... I live in Louisiana. Hot glue, duct tape, and a hatchet can be used to fix anything :)

[Skhorpion]

LOL i dont want to take a hatchet to sensitive electronic equipment :P

i live in Tennessee so the hatchet applies here to

anyway i have a small chipset fan hot glued to my vid card because it was originaly passive cooled and and my case sports the above average case temps

[<-Dying_to_Live->]

get this bad boy ;)

http://go-l.com/desktops/machl38/features/main.jpg

[Whisper]

Wow dude that monitors pathedic

http://www.go-l.com/monitors/athens/features/athens_2.jpg
Get this one baby!

[<-Dying_to_Live->]

yayayyaaya but i posted the other pic cuz it had the computer in it also :R

[///James///]

how many eyes do people have these days!

[Skhorpion]

lol awesoem but give me some monitors and a couple hundred dollars and i can pwn that setup

how about a 5' by 5' monitor array?

and an LCD screen for the comp to boot

[<-Dying_to_Live->]

lol awesoem but give me some monitors and a couple hundred dollars and i can pwn that setup

how about a 5' by 5' monitor array?

and an LCD screen for the comp to boot

um excuse me? you couldnt pwn that setup with just a bunch of old shitty monitors

[Skhorpion]

did i say old shitty monitors? no

a 5' by 5' monitor array pwns three monitors in a row

[Whisper]

did i say old shitty monitors? no

a 5' by 5' monitor array pwns three monitors in a row

Maby the cinema monitor yes
But not the Athens
The Athens is the god of all monitors

[Skhorpion]

dont make me stack high def TV's on top of each other and hook those up to the computer....

[<-Dying_to_Live->]

dude that would suck because hi def resolution is only 1080i by 720. hell, codys laptop has a higher quality screen than any $10,000 plasma hi def you could ever buy because laptop screens and lcd monitors have shitloads higher resolution

[Skhorpion]

pwnt

http://www.digitaltigers.com/displays-arena.shtml

http://www.digitaltigers.com/images/zv-arenaelitelx_rs700x384.jpg

[///James///]

note to self:: never give the instruction "look at the screen"!

how much does these fine monitors cost? i havent seen any of them around, and i ave been in alot of PC stores recently :? then again, i doubt they would be used for personal use!

[Skhorpion]

the one i posted costs $8k

[<-Dying_to_Live->]

pwnt

http://www.digitaltigers.com/displays-arena.shtml

http://www.digitaltigers.com/images/zv-arenaelitelx_rs700x384.jpg

pathetically impractical--i choose Athens

[Kiros]

Eh, looks better than the junk you picked out :P

Anyway, this is getting way off topic...