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josh92
November 26th, 2008, 11:29 PM
Ok first off i dont condone or recommend anyone smoking marijuana unless you have a prescription. The point of me showing this video is because it pisses me off that we get put through all these health classes that say that marijuana will kill you and we have this evidence! Well this video will tell you where they got that evidence. And its all bullshit. Just watch this video before commenting or at least watch the first half hour because it is kind of long. its in like 7-8 parts the movie will play straight through every 10 minutes it pauses for a sec to let the next one load. heres the link

http://allmusiclyrics.googlepages.com/theunion

Techno Monster
November 26th, 2008, 11:43 PM
Yeah, I actually posted that on myspace yesterday, awesome vid, maybe Obama will change this.

Sapphire
November 27th, 2008, 05:13 AM
Lol. Ok, I am not going to start an argument or a debate.

That video is full of people missing the actual point. You cannot justify the use of marijuana because there are worse drugs out there.
The fact that tobacco and alcohol kill more people each year than any other drug is because they are legally and socially accepted. It has nothing to do with marijuana. The danger associated with marijuana cannot be lessened because there are more dangerous ones out there.
How can they honestly argue that it isn't a gateway drug? It has been seen and noted by many reports that people have started with marijuana and eventually moved onto harder drugs. They can't argue that it isn't a gateway drug because of the apparently varied reasons people move onto other drugs.

There is no way that it will be legalised.
There are independent studies done into the effects of marijuana on the physical and mental health of users that have proved relationships between marijuana and physical/mental health problems.

These are examples of such: http://jama.ama-assn.org/cgi/content/abstract/275/7/521
http://www3.interscience.wiley.com/journal/118897893/abstract?CRETRY=1&SRETRY=0

Φρανκομβριτ
November 27th, 2008, 10:28 AM
SMOKING marijuana can cause lung problems, however if you ingest it orally, it's harmless. To this day, there have been 0 deaths from pure marijuana use.

Sapphire
November 27th, 2008, 10:42 AM
It has short term effects on users regardless of the way you consume it.

The long term effects are less clear though.
The psychological long term effects are more noticeable with those who are pre-disposed to disorders or already have existing disorders. However, these are the most extreme effects.

Φρανκομβριτ
November 27th, 2008, 10:47 AM
In some cases, it has enhanced a person to become anxious and paranoid, but these are both mental

Completely Lost
November 27th, 2008, 12:20 PM
Marijuana is really harmless, and stupidly enforced in the USA

People go to jail for 20+ years or life because of marijuana, stupid, really..

It is a schedule I "drug", which means it has no medicinal value, and it does..

Anyone who claims marijuana is an evil and bad drug with no medicinal value has never tried it and is misinformed because of DARE and other government funded anti-drug projects..

Marijuana, however, IS NOT a toy and only responsible people who have their act together should use it

By the way, they ruled out the latent schizophrenia+psychoses effect from marijuana..

josh92
November 27th, 2008, 02:05 PM
Ok Did any 1 see the part where they said 1 out of every 104 pot smokers TRY cocaine. and only 1 out of every 5 people that try it get addicted and its not like they tell you in the health video that you saw at school, you have to be doing it every day for a couple of weeks to get addicted. The whole gateway thing is such bullshit there is nothing in it that makes you want to try more drugs. People that do try other drugs where most likely going to do it any way. so 1 out of every 520 pot smokers get addicted to cocaine and even less TRY heroin. My point is the pot doesnt make people try other drugs its their choice, like the guy said he drinks alcohol it could be said he started on milk!

Sapphire
November 27th, 2008, 02:48 PM
It is a gateway drug because by taking it, people are more open to trying harder drugs. Gateway drugs don't make anyone want to try other drugs, it just leaves them more open to the idea. Tolerance could play a part in it too, though of this I am unsure.

Who says that link between marijuana use and schizophrenia has been outruled?
Everyone knows that it can increase the likelihood of mental illness of those already pre-disposed to them.
It has happened to someone I went to school with too. After using it very heavily, he developed a severe case of schizophrenia.

Videos like this one are awful because you get uneducated people watching them and swallowing every word they say. Half of the stuff I heard in it (and I didn't even watch all of it) were either incorrect, off-the-mark and pointless or incorrectly interpreted.

Completely Lost
November 27th, 2008, 03:07 PM
1.) That kid who is STILL IN SCHOOL MUST have smoked a hell of a hole lot of marijuana, like an ounce of some crazy herbs a day, in order to get schizophrenia.. what grade is he in.. 11??

2.) I am saying that marijuana alone DOES NOT cause schizophrenia, but rather the person already is going to get schizophrenia and just so happens to smoke marijuana at the time..

Have you ever tried marijuana

If not, then you have no say in this because statistics, although, prove some correlation are completely biased until an individual has faced the situation..

josh92
November 27th, 2008, 03:43 PM
or that kid u kno from your school just had schitzo really bad, and it didnt come out until later. happens all the time. and to the person who said that it makes you paranoid that is true but your only paranoid when your smoking it and not every one gets paranoid but the anxious part is not right. Pot chills you out so much its crazy you would have to take like 10mg of ativan to get the same effect i kno because i was prescribed ativan, and it didnt do anything for me

Fiending_the_freedom
November 27th, 2008, 10:24 PM
In some cases, it has enhanced a person to become anxious and paranoid, but these are both mental

yea but everyones different, in many cases its USED to treat anxiety and paranoia

personally pot works better than my anxiety meds.

Atonement
November 27th, 2008, 10:30 PM
The actual product will do nothing. Okay, I will accept that. But smoke, even wood smoke, can damage a person's lungs. Do I think it should be illegal? No. Until someone can prove to me that it is harmful to the community and not the single person, I hav enothing against it. Tobacco is harmful to people, this we know for sure. Okay, that's not outlawed. Alcohol, drunk driving, okay, it kills SO many more people that marijuana. And its still legal to consume. (though driving is technically illegal)

Fiending_the_freedom
November 27th, 2008, 11:36 PM
ok i just finished the video ( wow was that long) it was great, really interesting, definitely have to show it to a lot of people.

Sapphire
November 28th, 2008, 04:55 AM
1.) That kid who is STILL IN SCHOOL MUST have smoked a hell of a hole lot of marijuana, like an ounce of some crazy herbs a day, in order to get schizophrenia.. what grade is he in.. 11??

2.) I am saying that marijuana alone DOES NOT cause schizophrenia, but rather the person already is going to get schizophrenia and just so happens to smoke marijuana at the time..

Have you ever tried marijuana

If not, then you have no say in this because statistics, although, prove some correlation are completely biased until an individual has faced the situation..
You stated in your other post that the link between schizophrenia and marijuana had been ruled out. I asked who said that. I also, if you care to actually read my post, expressed disbelief because everyone knows that it can increase the likelihood of mental illness of those already pre-disposed to them. Then, I gave an example. And, btw, he isn't still in school. He left school at 17, so nearly three years ago.
Read people's posts properly before responding to them in future. That way, they don't have to repeat and rephrase what they have already said.

Yes, I have tried it so don't try and talk down to me.

How are statistics biased? Is it because they show something contrary to your own opinion?

Techno Monster
November 29th, 2008, 12:46 AM
personally pot works better than my anxiety meds.

Same here!

matt8530
March 11th, 2009, 12:44 AM
I find that Pot is a good release when you get extremely stressed out works for me

Oblivion
March 11th, 2009, 12:51 AM
This is from November of last year. Please don't bump old threads. Locked.