Do you think homosexuality is ok?

[fireice99]

Do you think homosexuality is okay?

Just wondering.

[Callwaiting]

Of course it is okay, but it's not for anyone to judge anyway.

[Θάνατος]

Of course it is okay, but it's not for anyone to judge anyway.


I agree it is OK to be any thing you want unless it infringes on the rights of others.

[theOperaGhost]

I'm neutral really. I don't care what people do in privacy.

Moved from Boys puberty to teen sexuality. 2 day redirect.

[The Resurrected One]

YES!

And if I see anymore No's, then I'm gonna cause chaos.

[ThatCanadianGuy]

There is absolutely nothing wrong with that. I'd like to know who answered "no" on the poll. Somebody's a homophobic bigot. Seriously folks, this is 2008. Soon to be 2009! Are we seriously still going to have to deal with this kind of discrimination?!

[The Resurrected One]

There is absolutely nothing wrong with that. I'd like to know who answered "no" on the poll. Somebody's a homophobic bigot. Seriously folks, this is 2008. Soon to be 2009! Are we seriously still going to have to deal with this kind of discrimination?!

I'd like for it to be a public poll.

People are like "Oh, it's opinion. People are all entitled to their opinion".

Well, yeah, but if their opinion is that being any sexual orientation, race, or anything else, is bad, then their opinion is not ok.

[The Batman]

People have a right to their opinions and there is a reason why this poll is "private". I clicked yes because seriously it doesn't matter, but i whoever picked no has a right to believe what they believe and remain anonymous.

[Picard]

How can it be not-ok? It's like asking "is being black/white ok?"...
I would agree with thePianoMan, what people do is their own choice, and it's alright as long as it doesn't harm others. Apparently, people's sexual orientation can't harm others.

[The Resurrected One]

Who the hell else voted "No"!

[Random_oso06]

i put ok because we all do have are certain opinion but then there are the people that take it to far personally it think that everyone should except everyone with out that then there wouldn't be that many discrimination

[DarkWingedAngel]

I put yes
and I don't think people should be butting in on other peoples life's

[BlackenedSilver]

There is absolutely nothing wrong with that. I'd like to know who answered "no" on the poll. Somebody's a homophobic bigot. Seriously folks, this is 2008. Soon to be 2009! Are we seriously still going to have to deal with this kind of discrimination?!


I agree.. who did vote no?
Of course homosexuality is ok, I dont see any reason why it shouldnt be. Its all about love, not sex anyway.

[staying_alive]

yes, being gay is perfectly fine. people with opinions that say it's not are the ones who create stereotypes in the first place, and cause people to be worried about becoming gay. for me, i don't feel that being gay is okay. i feel like something i can't control would ruin a lot that i could - example; biological children. but that is me not feeling it's okay for ME, it's not right for people to try and control the uncontrollable feelings of others.

[theOperaGhost]

People have the right to choose no if that is their opinion. The poll is private for that reason. You don't need to know who voted "no" because what are you going to do about it. Everyone has their opinion and just because they don't think homosexuality isn't ok, doesn't make them a homophobic bigot.

[The Resurrected One]

3 "No" voters. Give reasons! Post!

[ThatCanadianGuy]

Saying that gay people "choose" to be gay is like saying black people chose to be born black. That's pretty much where it stands on it being a "choice".

[fireice99]

Actually the choice is up to the person. Its really their prerogative...

[The Resurrected One]

Actually the choice is up to the person. Its really their prerogative...

Not really. You can't speak for gay people.

[Atonement]

I have nothing against homosexuality. It doesn't effect me, so I don't care.

[Oblivion]

Not for it, not against it
Pro Choice :)
Whatever floats your boat...
Im not here to stop you :)

[theOperaGhost]

As far as I'm concerned, it's not a choice, you are born the way you are. I believe there has been scientific studies and research on it.

[Oblivion]

Hmmm maybe I meant Pro I-won't-stop-you
Anyways, it doesn't affect me,
And even though I'm straight, I wouldn't want to make people do what I do just because

[whitecar]

yeah, i think its fine actually. :cool:

[BlackBetty]

I am neutral.. Like Jared said, who cares what you do in privacy, but don't do it in public.

[Requin]

YES it's okay. I don't care in the slightest. You can't help the way you are so why should I be against that?

I can see why religious people who are gay struggle through life though. That's one thing I don't agree with - Religion not agreeing with it.

[Φρανκομβριτ]

As far as I'm concerned, it's not a choice, you are born the way you are. I believe there has been scientific studies and research on it.

I agree. I myself am gay, and I think it's very wrong. It CAN be fixed.

[Lindsay]

Yes, I think it's okay. :) I don't think there's anything wrong with it.

[The Resurrected One]

I agree. I myself am gay, and I think it's very wrong. It CAN be fixed.

Hmm. If you weren't gay and said it was very wrong, then... never mind.


The only reason people would struggle and be unhappy with being gay would be because of religious homophobes. Or any homophobes. Stupid beliefs of not treating people equally.

[notsure101]

Ok the church says its wrong...............BUT..................why would God make it that way if he did not want that????? Please answer that and I will find homosexuality wrong

[The Resurrected One]

Who cares what the Church says. Since when did their word determine everything.

[Antares]

Who cares what the Church says. Since when did their word determine everything.
200 years ago.

Anyways, I think the question that SHOULD be asked is why is homosexuality NOT okay.

[The Resurrected One]

I heard people's reasonings before. "Because it against God's word", "because the Church/Bible says so", "Because it's unnatural", "Because it is disgusting in God's eyes"...

[Halibut]

yes.i thinkk who ever has a problem with it should stuff it!

[Φρανκομβριτ]

200 years ago.

Anyways, I think the question that SHOULD be asked is why is homosexuality NOT okay.

very good question!

Because it will (eventually) lead to the fall of society today.

If boys start fucking boys and girls start fucking girls, no babies will be made.

Plus a tube doesnt go into another tube, nor does a hole have a hole inside it.

[theOperaGhost]

I agree with Rudi.

Ok, according to the Bible, sex is NOT for pleasure, sex is to procreate. Thus sex is supposed to be between man and woman, that is just how nature is. Even a man and woman are not supposed to have sex for pleasure, this is also why condoms are looked down upon by some religious extremists. Condoms stop procreation, making sex just for pleasure. Nowhere in the Bible does it say homosexual love is wrong, it only says homosexual sex is wrong.

But Rudi is correct, mammals are designed for sex with the opposite gender, not the same gender.

So, my new view on homosexuality (I might get heat for this): homosexual love is perfectly fine. Two men can love each other; two women can love each other. Homosexual sex is solely pleasure, and sex for pleasure is a "sin." The natural purpose of sex is to reproduce!

[Jean Poutine]

I don't have any place in your bedroom, honestly. homosexuals do not bother me per se.

although I must say I find public shows of affection by any couple of any orientation extremely distasteful, and I do not bother to hide my disgust. that has prolly offended some homosexuals.

[Callwaiting]

I don't have any place in your bedroom, honestly. homosexuals do not bother me per se.

although I must say I find public shows of affection by any couple of any orientation extremely distasteful, and I do not bother to hide my disgust. that has prolly offended some homosexuals.

How do you define "shows of affection"?
Please say you aren't one of the people who gives a great sigh and shakes their head whenever something happens that they don't like..

[theOperaGhost]

How do you define "shows of affection"?
Please say you aren't one of the people who gives a great sigh and shakes their head whenever something happens that they don't like..

I'm one of those people. I don't mind seeing people kiss in public, but don't make out, nobody wants to see it and don't come up with the excuse "you don't have to look" if they are right out there in the open, it's kind of hard to avoid. This goes for straight people too, because I've never even seen gay people making out.

[Requin]

So, my new view on homosexuality (I might get heat for this): homosexual love is perfectly fine. Two men can love each other; two women can love each other. Homosexual sex is solely pleasure, and sex for pleasure is a "sin." The natural purpose of sex is to reproduce!

Well....your right you are going to get heat for it. I can see where your going with that, and I salute you for coming to that conclusion through religion as most take the religious side of it and be very direct, but yours does make ALOT of sense.
But the only problem I have with it, and I'm sure others of the same bent will feel the same, is that non-religious people, like me, just wouldn't agree with that as it's again down to what the bible says. As a 'non believer' scumbag like myself, that conclusion of listening to what the bible says is just not believable to us.

I can't see how a book written by four people about one man THAT WAS WRITTEN PROBABLY 2000 YEARS AGO..ISH. Can be right about everything in society now, as society is very different than it was then. Gays and the heretical (like me) were considered strange, freaks and were often killed or burned.

But this is getting towards a religious argument. But what I'm saying is that religious people and non religious people will find it very hard to come to a conclusion on this matter, as it contradicts what both believe.
So basically I can't see how anyone will agree with each other, so we'll be going round and round in circles.

And now you can all hate me.

[Sapphire]

Voted yes.
What people do in the bedroom is no one else's business.

3 "No" voters. Give reasons! Post!
And they have to justify their opinions to you for what reason exactly?

[Jean Poutine]

How do you define "shows of affection"?
Please say you aren't one of the people who gives a great sigh and shakes their head whenever something happens that they don't like..

I don't mind quick kissing. however outright making out is disgusting.

[Avalikia]

I voted "neutral" because it really depends on what you mean.

On the one hand, I truly believe that what other people do in the privacy of their own homes is their own business. I also don't treat people that I know are homosexual any differently or consider them to be bad people - I don't believe that it is wrong to feel attracted to people of the same gender.

On the other hand, my religion is unapologetic in its belief that, while it's not wrong to feel those feelings, it is wrong to act on them and I fully support that view. However, on the same basis I feel that it's wrong to have any sexual relations outside of marriage, smoke, drink alcohol, dress immodestly, swear, and a long list of other things. But that doesn't mean I treat anyone who does any of those things differently either; if you're not in my religion I don't expect you to share and act on the same set of values that I do, and I don't feel superior because I openly acknowledge that there are plenty of people better than me who do any number of those things. I've even met homosexual people who are probably overall better people than me. Besides, I also believe that it's more wrong to treat someone who's openly homosexual badly than it is for them to act on their feelings. So while I feel the way I do I generally don't bring it up because it really doesn't make much of a difference in the way I act. (But hey, you asked; I answered.)

[Φρανκομβριτ]

Fuck the bible. I'm religious, but put that aside.

You can't fight th fact the if we stop procreating, humanity ends. period.

[curiousteen]

for me i think its neutral because it could be a bad thing but also a good thing

[fireice99]

Not really. You can't speak for gay people.

I dont get you. Its THEIR p-r-e-r-o-g-a-t-i-v-e. means its their right, and its not for us to judge.

Im not speaking up for gay people. I have a neutral stand.

*i dont want to seem mean, just wanting to make my point clear (:

[fireice99]

I voted "neutral" because it really depends on what you mean.

On the one hand, I truly believe that what other people do in the privacy of their own homes is their own business. I also don't treat people that I know are homosexual any differently or consider them to be bad people - I don't believe that it is wrong to feel attracted to people of the same gender.

On the other hand, my religion is unapologetic in its belief that, while it's not wrong to feel those feelings, it is wrong to act on them and I fully support that view. However, on the same basis I feel that it's wrong to have any sexual relations outside of marriage, smoke, drink alcohol, dress immodestly, swear, and a long list of other things. But that doesn't mean I treat anyone who does any of those things differently either; if you're not in my religion I don't expect you to share and act on the same set of values that I do, and I don't feel superior because I openly acknowledge that there are plenty of people better than me who do any number of those things. I've even met homosexual people who are probably overall better people than me. Besides, I also believe that it's more wrong to treat someone who's openly homosexual badly than it is for them to act on their feelings. So while I feel the way I do I generally don't bring it up because it really doesn't make much of a difference in the way I act. (But hey, you asked; I answered.)

Are you a Christian. I am (:

The Bible forbids homosexuality, I mean, it does not outrightly condemn it, but it defeats the purpose of God's will for one man and woman to be together. To correct Avalikia, the feeling is temptation ( so ive read) and that it can be overcomed.

Not being insulting to homosexuals. We are just bringing religion into this matter.

[Techno Monster]

Gay Pride!
I think homosexuality is more than ok, and I support it!

[ShatteredWings]

Of course it's ok..

If you knew me, you'd NEVER ask that.


Actually, i'm supprised to see this question here. Idk, just seems odd for the site

[Avalikia]

Are you a Christian. I am (:
I am.

To correct Avalikia, the feeling is temptation ( so ive read) and that it can be overcomed.
This is incorrect. Many religions also teach that only evil people are depressed and that people with schizophrenia or multiple personalities are possessed by devils, and that isn't true either. The truth is that, as part of being in a fallen world, some people are born more inclined to do certain things than others, and this can include any number of things from lashing out in anger, becoming addicted easily, being prone to mental illness, etc. Many of the things people are prone to do are sins and are therefore morally wrong, but they aren't temptations as such because it's a matter of hormones, brain chemistry, etc. that makes them want to do it. Temptation only comes from evil sources, like bad people trying to get you to do bad things. But the main difference is that, while temptations can be overcome, if your body is pretty much designed from birth to feel a certain way then you feel that way and there's not much you can do about it. That is why the feeling itself isn't wrong, it only becomes wrong depending on what you choose to do about it.

[ThatDude93]

I'm neutral

[fireice99]

I agree with Rudi.

Ok, according to the Bible, sex is NOT for pleasure, sex is to procreate. Thus sex is supposed to be between man and woman, that is just how nature is. Even a man and woman are not supposed to have sex for pleasure, this is also why condoms are looked down upon by some religious extremists. Condoms stop procreation, making sex just for pleasure. Nowhere in the Bible does it say homosexual love is wrong, it only says homosexual sex is wrong.

But Rudi is correct, mammals are designed for sex with the opposite gender, not the same gender.

So, my new view on homosexuality (I might get heat for this): homosexual love is perfectly fine. Two men can love each other; two women can love each other. Homosexual sex is solely pleasure, and sex for pleasure is a "sin." The natural purpose of sex is to reproduce!

Actually the Bible says sex is for pleasure, ONLY for married couples.
Like my previous post, it wuld go against God's wishes for 1 man and 1 woman to be together if he allowed homosexuality. It is true that no homosex is not clearly stated in the Scriptures, but it is clearly said that one man and one woman will unite as when(when married).

Please correct me if wrong, thx.

[fireice99]

Satan tempts us in the most vile ways ever known. (On Earth, we all fall short of God's glorious standard. ) God allows Satan to tempt, or do anything to turns us away from God, which is sin. Everyone has the same hormones, etc. Its only if you wane to Satan's word then you will be tempted to do bad stuff. I dont think its because we are created to be like that. Though there is environmental impact, i think its the Angel of Death's doing.

Please correct me if im wrong. (::yes:

[Φρανκομβριτ]

God doesn't allow satan, even though I don't really believe in Satan. He expects us to use our faith to understand good from evil, make the right choice, and overcome it. If we need guidance, we pray.


Now, back on to the gay topic. In most bibles I've read, sex is NEVER for pleasure. Sexual pleasure is a sin. It is SOLEY for the purpose of making babies. That's why condoms and pulling out are bad too!!

[Hyper]

Well I'd have to say I'm neutral

I think its wrong, but I don't trouble myself with the fact that people do it nor do I treat them differently...

But generally I tend to agree with Rudi..

[Antares]

In response to I will say,
Who cares!? We're overpopulated anyways. And when we start having problems, we will be dead. Live and let live!

EDIT: Okay, I could not find an exact number but I guess 3-10 percent of the American Population is Homosexual. Assuming that the gay-lesbian proportion is equal that means that there are still about 46% women to have kids which then breaks down to 1 out of every...9 children will be straight and reproduce. So it is NOT the end of the world. And wont be for a really long time.
And I don't think the percent of homosexuals is increasing all that much. As society accepts it more, I am sure it will increase but in dismal numbers. (at least in out people)

[Oblivion]

Even if homosexuality was accepted more, its not like everyone will suddenly be gay, so the human race wont die out
I would say at least half the population would stay straight, if homosexuality was perfectly accepted
And with the population growing as it is, the population would still probably increase with half of the world gay
On top of that, if if gays were accepted more, it would be much less controversial for them to adopt kids, and they probably would more

[meaghanlovesu]

yes!!

[fireice99]

God doesn't allow satan, even though I don't really believe in Satan. He expects us to use our faith to understand good from evil, make the right choice, and overcome it. If we need guidance, we pray.


Now, back on to the gay topic. In most bibles I've read, sex is NEVER for pleasure. Sexual pleasure is a sin. It is SOLEY for the purpose of making babies. That's why condoms and pulling out are bad too!!

It is for married couples... and you're right to say pulling out is wrong...

In genesis, onan pulled out and digusted God.
God also aloows Satan to tempt us. Read Job.

[sunsings]

it is the choice of a person! we have no right to judge them or to even question there sexuality and anyone who does should look deep within themself and ask why!

[The Resurrected One]

It is for married couples... and you're right to say pulling out is wrong...

In genesis, onan pulled out and digusted God.
God also aloows Satan to tempt us. Read Job.

No. And I think you should put those books down and start living in today's more accepting generation.

[Synthslave]

i think it's kind of a disorder.my opinion.

[AutumnDae]

Love=Love=Love. If you love someone, and it's someone of your own gender, that's perfectly fine with me. My older sister's best friend is gay, and I must say I love that kid like he is my own brother.

So yea, to each his own.

[Sapphire]

i think it's kind of a disorder.my opinion.
That's interesting to see someone say because I thought that opinion had almost died a death.
Why do you see it as such?

[Synthslave]

so.let's clear something.i dont think lgbt-s should be burned and killed and all that.i'm gay also.and.well,this is my theory: in nature everything is made to produce something new.absolutely evertything.and that product is used by something else to produce something newer and so long.hope you get the point...so.homoseyuality doesn't produce anything therefore it's a mistake.disorder.whatever.incurable one.like down's syndrome or something like that.it's just a mistake.nature's mistake.

[Sapphire]

Ah ok, I see what you're saying.
Was just surprised to see someone express the opinion that it's some sort of disorder tbh.

[Synthslave]

so.you're saying i have a point? :p

[Sapphire]

Lol, no. Was just saying that I can see where you are coming from.

[Synthslave]

Lol, no. Was just saying that I can see where you are coming from


i don't get this part. (?)

[Sapphire]

I mean that I understand why you think that way.

[Synthslave]

oh.alright.my opinion.anyway.to conclude it.it's not my fault cause i have a disorder.therefore.homosexuality is ok.i didn't choose it.

[Mr. Smithers]

We should all be able to live life the way we want to. We should be able to control our lives. We should be able to Drink Water instead of Soda. Or wear Sweaters instead of Jackets. But we can't control what age we are. Or what ethnicity we are. So the way I put it, you can't really argue or get mad at things you can't control. Such as your sexual preference.

[Malcolm Tucker]

YES! YES YES YES YES hehe. Being gay, I do think it's 100% okay.

See:
man + women = :wub:
man + man = :wub:
woman + woman = :wub:

It's totally acceptable, and even if it's not, people should keep those "ideals" to themselves :)

[Blueberryz]

i think homosexuality is ok especially having a gay best friend who is practically my twin and being bi myself plus i never judge a book by its cover

[Mathew404]

If you love somebody, than you love them. Im totaly confused to why its baned in many states.

[TurboDieselBandit]

From a Christian stand point I would say no, but from a human perspective I would say yes and no. Homosexuality is usually not encouraged and some people dislike homos. From what I see most adults say that it is wrong and jugging from this thread most teens say the opposite. I believe that most of us teens are just extremely curious and have a strong desire to experiment with the same gender and come to the conclusion that we are gay or bi when we are just confused. So I think that it is not too good a thing but hey, I'm in no position to judge others or attempt to change any one based on their sexuality.

I gotta live my own life the way I should and do what is best for ME. You all must do the same.

PS: I know what I am talking about, I too am extremely curious and want to 'experiment' with the same gender and on occasion have, so I DO know what I'm talking about.

Exactly where in the Bible does God or any one else say that being gay is wrong or a sin? (not a rhetorical question)

[SLADE]

There is absolutely nothing wrong with that. I'd like to know who answered "no" on the poll. Somebody's a homophobic bigot. Seriously folks, this is 2008. Soon to be 2009! Are we seriously still going to have to deal with this kind of discrimination?!

WOW seems like i am the only one who thinks gay is not rite...oh wel... "DISCRIMINATION"? na. a lot of ppl say bein gay is ok becos its just a "feeling" and feelings "are God given" lol. wel... if havin a feeling justifies actions like homosexuality, then murderers surely hav justifiable resons for their actions bcos they had "feelings" too. therefore murderers shld also not be discriminated.
I hav a feeling i am gona get a lot of stick for bein christian, but here goes anyway... Homosexuality is a SIN! the Bible says its wrong God says not to do it so y do otherwise?

[SLADE]

i think homosexuality is ok especially having a gay best friend who is practically my twin and being bi myself plus i never judge a book by its cover

hmmm, so does this mean bcos a friend is gay the whole concept is ok/justifiable? very interesting remarks. I hav had a friend who had a tendancy for stealing things... she was almost addicted to it, its like somin she coldnt help but do... her being my friend, does this make stealing ok? am i rite to say its ok to steal?

[Maverick]

Homosexuality doesn't harm anyone. Comparing it to murder is idiotic. When someone is murdered it harms people but if a guy likes another guy no one is hurt and no one is affected. Terrible analogy.

[Rutherford The Brave]

WOW seems like i am the only one who thinks gay is not rite...oh wel... "DISCRIMINATION"? na. a lot of ppl say bein gay is ok becos its just a "feeling" and feelings "are God given" lol. wel... if havin a feeling justifies actions like homosexuality, then murderers surely hav justifiable resons for their actions bcos they had "feelings" too. therefore murderers shld also not be discriminated.
I hav a feeling i am gona get a lot of stick for bein christian, but here goes anyway... Homosexuality is a SIN! the Bible says its wrong God says not to do it so y do otherwise?

Yes, in the bible is says it's wrong. But the bible is neither a historical nor a social book, plus when they say God loves all that INCLUDES homosexuals. It's deemed a sin by the church not by God. People do it otherwise because they are born GAY you can't say they are gay by choice. It's in their human nature and Human rights Which they have by BIRTH you can't deny them that, you can't say that it's a sin and they should be shunned for something that is theirs' and it's part of who they are. YOU can't say anything neither can the church because Homosexuals are people too which means they were born with the ability to make desicions and be who they want to be without the fear of being put down by people like you. You think your so superior to those who are different from you because a "Book" THAT IS FAKE TO PROVE A POINT AND THE CHRISTIAN CHURCH EVEN SAYS SO. Your not better than anyone else, you don't have the ability to call someone's human nature a sin, and If I know the "GOD" you believe in he/she would say that you can say that because He/she Loves unconditionally. So think about that, and come back to me and tell me it's a sin. Just remember it's also a sin to put down another human, your not protected by the Church just because your Christian.

hmmm, so does this mean bcos a friend is gay the whole concept is ok/justifiable? very interesting remarks. I hav had a friend who had a tendancy for stealing things... she was almost addicted to it, its like somin she coldnt help but do... her being my friend, does this make stealing ok? am i rite to say its ok to steal? ?

It is ok and justifiable. It's human nature to fall in love with someone regardless of sex. NO IT DOESN'T MAKE IT OK TO STEAL! You can't compare stealing to being a homosexual they are two totally different things. Your not right to say it's ok to steal because the law says so, and being a christian yourself you should realize that your "Bible" also says you cannot steal, so stop being a hypocrite and understand that being a homosexual is totally different from being a thief. You can have your opinion which is to hate homosexuality but where ever you go someone is going to tell you the same exact thing I'm telling you now.

[SLADE]

Love=Love=Love. If you love someone, and it's someone of your own gender, that's perfectly fine with me. My older sister's best friend is gay, and I must say I love that kid like he is my own brother.

So yea, to each his own.


Y do ppl base morality on the fact that they know/like a person who is gay so its ok???
By the way, in case you had no idea, love isnt always wat it seems... LUST is a tricky feeling to spot. PLS I BEG U NOT to confuse it with love. wat u meant to say is that "...if u LUST someone, and its someone of your own gender..."

Homosexuality is a SIN... and if i am the only one on earth who stil believes in God, i wil not stop or give in til i knock some Moral sense bac into our once beautiful world.

[Rutherford The Brave]

Y do ppl base morality on the fact that they know/like a person who is gay so its ok???
By the way, in case you had no idea, love isnt always wat it seems... LUST is a tricky feeling to spot. PLS I BEG U NOT to confuse it with love. wat u meant to say is that "...if u LUST someone, and its someone of your own gender..."

Homosexuality is a SIN... and if i am the only one on earth who stil believes in God, i wil not stop or give in til i knock some Moral sense bac into our once beautiful world.

Do you realize that it's your religion that has made this world ugly. Lust and love maybe different but just because you love someone of the same gender doesn't make it lust. It makes it love, there is no difference lust is the equivalent of prostitution not homosexuality. Your not knocking moral sense into anyone all your doing is putting down a group of people who deserve the same exact respect as everyone else does.

[SLADE]

Of course it is okay, but it's not for anyone to judge anyway.


Let me guess... another atheist?... Pls refer to ur dictionary to confirm wat the word "JUDGE" means before u ever use it again. There is a BIG difference between morals (knowing rite from wrong) and judging. For example; Stealing is wrong- a moral concept. Whilst ppl who steal shld all be killed is a form of litteral judgement.

Pls dont use words u do not understand or are unsure of.

[Rutherford The Brave]

Let me guess... another atheist?... Pls refer to ur dictionary to confirm wat the word "JUDGE" means before u ever use it again. There is a BIG difference between morals (knowing rite from wrong) and judging. For example; Stealing is wrong- a moral concept. Whilst ppl who steal shld all be killed is a form of litteral judgement.

Pls dont use words u do not understand or are unsure of.

Please learn how to spell, before you critize people based on your beliefs. Because not only are your points jumbling about, they are not relevant and you are just making a mockery of christians.

[Cindex]

Not really. You can't speak for gay people.

Dude he wasn't. He said it's their choice. Just like it's yours. Me saying that isn't talking for you. It's really your choice.

Personally, I think seeing it is kind of weird. I don't really like it.

However, what do I care? They're happy! We should be happy for them!


If most people were gay (yes population would spiral) then you no-voters would be considered wrong. You wouldn't like that would you?

[SLADE]

Do you realize that it's your religion that has made this world ugly. Lust and love maybe different but just because you love someone of the same gender doesn't make it lust. It makes it love, there is no difference lust is the equivalent of prostitution not homosexuality. Your not knocking moral sense into anyone all your doing is putting down a group of people who deserve the same exact respect as everyone else does.

I am not putting any1 down... i myself have done somthings that are wrong... i am human...saying something is wrong is not discrimination. and again u are confusing lust with love. there are 3 main types of love... 1. Love for a neighbor/friend. 2. love for relatives and 3. love for the person u want to marry and reproduce with. All three are natural
Homosexuality is based firmly on sexuality. this therefor cannot be fuelled by love, but lust. Lust is defined as a desire, love compared to this is a lot more.
AND pls justify how christianity has made the world ugly. :yes:

[Cindex]

Homosexuality is based firmly on sexuality. this therefor cannot be fuelled by love, but lust. Lust is defined as a desire, love compared to this is a lot more.

AND pls justify how christianity has made the world ugly. :yes:

Homosexuality isn't based on sexuality! Yes, that may be what some people do. But lots of people do that in normal relationships too! I had a girlfriend who was very physical. That wasn't fueled by love.

I know two homosexuals. A girl who's bisexual and a boy homosexual. Neither of them bases relationships purely off of love.


Christianity did not make the world ugly. But some of the followers did. Many Christains will freely criticize homosexuals. It's in the bible that it's wrong, but it also says to love your neighbor as yourself. I've read pretty much the whole new testament. I went through and found all the laws that He made at one point that contradicted society. There was nothing against homosexuals, therefore you should love them as yourself.

[Rutherford The Brave]

I am not putting any1 down... i myself have done somthings that are wrong... i am human...saying something is wrong is not discrimination. and again u are confusing lust with love. there are 3 main types of love... 1. Love for a neighbor/friend. 2. love for relatives and 3. love for the person u want to marry and reproduce with. All three are natural
Homosexuality is based firmly on sexuality. this therefor cannot be fuelled by love, but lust. Lust is defined as a desire, love compared to this is a lot more.
AND pls justify how christianity has made the world ugly. :yes:

HOMOSEXUALITY IS BASICALLY HETEROSEXUALITY ITS JUST THE SAME SEX YOUR THE ONE CONFUSING LUST WITH LOVE. Your a hypocrite, a massive one because heterosexuality contains, the word sexuality, which means your saying that your also in it for the lust. Um let's not forgot the all the wars in Britian over King Henry breaking with the church, the war's in Israel, the halocaust. Christianity has reared its ugly head and it is people like you who make this world worse. Your so insensative you think the world belongs to the christians. But you know what? Their where homosexuals before their was God so you know what. I think the homesexuals so someday say that being christianity is a sin because you believe in someone.

[SLADE]

Homosexuality isn't based on sexuality! Yes, that may be what some people do. But lots of people do that in normal relationships too! I had a girlfriend who was very physical. That wasn't fueled by love.

I know two homosexuals. A girl who's bisexual and a boy homosexual. Neither of them bases relationships purely off of love.


Christianity did not make the world ugly. But some of the followers did. Many Christains will freely criticize homosexuals. It's in the bible that it's wrong, but it also says to love your neighbor as yourself. I've read pretty much the whole new testament. I went through and found all the laws that He made at one point that contradicted society. There was nothing against homosexuals, therefore you should love them as yourself.

i did not say i hated gays... God himself said to love ur neighbors. AND I AM NOT CRITISIZING GAYS.
saying something is not right does not mean ur critisizing.
Not everything i say is based on what i personally think because i am merely human and my thoughts, although convincing could be entirely wrong. It is therefore based on the Creator of man.
U said that u found nothing that said homosexuality was wrong by God. WRONG
if u have a Bible look in Leviticus 18:22, which says "do not lie with a man as one lies with a woman; that is detestable."
Pls do not stray from the subject; the debate is about whether gay is right or wrong, not who i shld love.
PS i love all not according to how they behave but because they are my neighbors. It is a commandment Christians have been given. And if i hated someone because of their beliefs, i would not have repied to ur quote:yes:

[Rutherford The Brave]

i did not say i hated gays... God himself said to love ur neighbors. AND I AM NOT CRITISIZING GAYS.
saying something is not right does not mean ur critisizing.
Not everything i say is based on what i personally think because i am merely human and my thoughts, although convincing could be entirely wrong. It is therefore based on the Creator of man.
U said that u found nothing that said homosexuality was wrong by God. WRONG
if u have a Bible look in Leviticus 18:22, which says "do not lie with a man as one lies with a woman; that is detestable."
Pls do not stray from the subject; the debate is about whether gay is right or wrong, not who i shld love.
PS i love all not according to how they behave but because they are my neighbors. It is a commandment Christians have been given. And if i hated someone because of their beliefs, i would not have repied to ur quote:yes:


I can't believe people like you, full of superior shit. I couldn't pump you more full of air. Your wrong because does he exist? No, did he write it? NO someone else put the fucking pen to the paper, and wrote it without this GOD's conscent so you know what YOUR WRONG. Please check up on your scriptures and realize that god did not write the book and those who did had absolutly no contact with the man. Love thy neighbor? Bullshit you wouldn't give a homosexual the time of day if he confronted you.

[Antares]

You can't say that Greg. You don't even know this guy. If anything you're the one that is making hasty assumptions.
I think you can't just say someone is wrong for their beliefs. I personally don't give a rats ass if your blue, yellow, green or purple and you marry a goat, bunny, grasshopper, or butterfly. The point is that it is MY opinion and you can't say it's wrong.
So SLADE you have your opinion and you can keep it, I just don't agree with it. Simple as that.

[Rutherford The Brave]

It's one thing to call it your opinion. It's another to press it on another, by comparing it to something that is totally irrelavent to the topic.

[iJack]

If god created us in in his image, how is homosexuality bad?

And screw the bible, it always contradicts itself.

[Rutherford The Brave]

Thank you Jack, you said exactly what I'm saying just shorter. *hugs*

[Talia]

If god created us in in his image, how is homosexuality bad?

That's what I've always said :3

[eikookmi]

Well if they say its suppose to be Adam and Eve.
Well Eve had no other choice in her species. There was only Adam.
If there was an Evelyn or something maybe she would have chose her but fucked Adam just to populate the earth.
And i think God is bi. Remember God loves you. He loves gays. He made them. He must be bi...he just must be...

[Raynes]

There is absolutely nothing wrong with it. Anyone who voted no, is either Christian, or homophobic. Both can cause problems with ethics.

[Atonement]

There is absolutely nothing wrong with it. Anyone who voted no is homophobic.

That would be the definition of homophobia. :P

But as for the christian part, I'm Christian and voted yes.

[Raynes]

That would be the definition of homophobia. :P

But as for the christian part, I'm Christian and voted yes.

Christianity can screw with ethics. But this isn't the time nor place to get into a conversation about Christianity.

[The Resurrected One]

i did not say i hated gays... God himself said to love ur neighbors. AND I AM NOT CRITISIZING GAYS.
saying something is not right does not mean ur critisizing.
Not everything i say is based on what i personally think because i am merely human and my thoughts, although convincing could be entirely wrong. It is therefore based on the Creator of man.
U said that u found nothing that said homosexuality was wrong by God. WRONG
if u have a Bible look in Leviticus 18:22, which says "do not lie with a man as one lies with a woman; that is detestable."
Pls do not stray from the subject; the debate is about whether gay is right or wrong, not who i shld love.
PS i love all not according to how they behave but because they are my neighbors. It is a commandment Christians have been given. And if i hated someone because of their beliefs, i would not have repied to ur quote:yes:

People like you are part of the reason I am not happy being gay.

[Sapphire]

Homosexuality isn't based on sexuality! Yes, that may be what some people do. But lots of people do that in normal relationships too! I had a girlfriend who was very physical. That wasn't fueled by love.Lol, did you actually say that? You can't be homosexual if you don't feel sexually for a member of the same sex as you. Homosexuality is based on sexuality because it is a sexual preference.

Um let's not forgot the all the wars in Britian over King Henry breaking with the church, the war's in Israel, the halocaust. Christianity has reared its ugly head and it is people like you who make this world worse.First off, there weren't wars in Britain over King Henry VIII's seperation from the Catholic Church. Secondly, the Church didn't have anything to do with the Holocaust. Thirdly, the wars in Israel aren't caused just by Christians and it is unfair to claim so.

Maybe brush up on your history?

There is absolutely nothing wrong with it. Anyone who voted no, is either Christian, or homophobic. Both can cause problems with ethics.
Funny how you are all pouncing on Christianity as being distinctly homophobic. What about the Jews? What about any other religion?

[Lola4563]

I'm a Pastafarian. We've got nothing wrong with it.

[Underground_Network]

Homosexuality is fine. Most people, when they really look into things, think so too. Those who dislike homosexuals are either homophobic or unwilling to accept something that goes against their morals/beliefs (which doesn't necessarily mean they fear homosexuals, but that they just don't believe they should "exist" or that they are "sinners" or something along those lines). And religion itself has caused many a crises, and most wars have had something to do with religion. And saying Christianity had nothing to do with the Holocaust is wrong, because Hitler's view of an Aryan was CHRISTIAN, blonde-haired, blue eyed, white skin, etc... And most Jews I know (and my town is like 70% Jewish) are extremely tolerant of homosexuals. It does seem to be largely Christians who criticize homosexuals, though they are not the only religion guilty of doing so, some Christians just make themselves known for their abhorrence of homosexuals (and that may be because in the United States most radical [religious] groups stem off of Christianity [in some form], i.e. the KKK).

[Hyper]

I don't see why you guys are jumping at SLADE he definately isn't a homophobe if anything you guys are acting like christianity phobes. Which is equally bad.

He simply said its a sin. And almost all sins will be forgiven on certain conditions.. I really don't feel like getting into this so I'll just shut up and leave

[Sapphire]

And saying Christianity had nothing to do with the Holocaust is wrong, because Hitler's view of an Aryan was CHRISTIAN, blonde-haired, blue eyed, white skin, etc...
If you actually knew your history, you would know that Christianity had no power/influence over Hitler or Nazi Germany. In fact, if you knew your history, you would know that most of the churches were overpowered by the Nazis and used involuntarily as another area where the public were fed propaganda.

EDIT
Both, the Chrisitian and the Jewish Scriptures, state that homosexuality is wrong.
There are loads of Christians who don't go around bashing gays. Just like the jews you know.
The difference will be mainly in what you have experienced and been exposed to.

[Rutherford The Brave]

If you actually knew your history, you would know that Christianity had no power/influence over Hitler or Nazi Germany. In fact, if you knew your history, you would know that most of the churches were overpowered by the Nazis and used involuntarily as another area where the public were fed propaganda.

EDIT
Both, the Chrisitian and the Jewish Scriptures, state that homosexuality is wrong.
There are loads of Christians who don't go around bashing gays. Just like the jews you know.
The difference will be mainly in what you have experienced and been exposed to.

No your wrong stop trying to be superior. HITLER KILLED THOSE WHO DID NOT FIT IN THE ARYAN RACE. If you weren't christian you were killed, you were killed one by one like mice. He used the church because it advocated views against what he said. Stuff like, you can be what you want to be and you are who God deemed you to be. That's why he knocked them down and used them as propaganda because they interfeared.

-Edit- Also the church said he had no right doing what he was doing. Of course he wasn't going to let anyone stop him from building Germanica.

[Underground_Network]

I'm not going to get into an argument over historical fact, because you're actually ignoring my point, Christianity and ties to "the" or "a" church are not what I'm getting at. Yeah, Hitler wasn't a "religious" guy, but still, he massacred anyone who wasn't Aryan, which, for the most part, meant anyone that didn't fit his physical profile (and 90% [not an actual statistic, but a rough estimation] of those who he "spared"/deemed Aryan, were Christian). Now there are certain exceptions and all sorts of other bullshit, but that has nothing to do with homosexuality.

My point is Christianity, as well as every other f-ing religion, has been at least an indirect cause of almost every conflict that has occurred since basic religions were formed, its just that Christianity is the "dominant" religion, there are, at least in the United States, more Christians than anything else, and thus they make themselves noticed. The more there is of a group, the more likely you are to have radicals ["bad seeds", etc.], and thus if one Christian stands up and says homosexuality is a sin, and then more and more stand up, there are more of them that are more likely to stand up because, well, just because there are more of them in general. Thus we take notice of Christians opposing homosexuality instead of other religions, though I know other religions have those who oppose Christianity too, its just that around here, we know of Christians opposing homosexuals, because, for whatever the reason, be it the media feeding us false information or something else entirely, we see Christians as the "opposition" of homosexuals.

And all I ever hear about on the news (though the news does have a tendency to do this intentionally) is Christians drawing Swastikas on synagogues and desecrating other religious facilities and harming people of other religions, etc. Yes, they're not the only ones doing it, but if there are enough "radicals", we're going to hear about them instead of the "good people", because that's just how the news works. And yeah, I have a headache and I'm done arguing for now... I'll leave it at that...

If there's something you disagree with, bring it forth, because everything I said is true, even if its not 1000% accurate, its true to one extent or another. There is no denying the fact that the news publicizes radical Christians and Christians who oppose things they view as radical (such as homosexuality) even if the majority of Christians think other wise. We are all influenced by what we see on TV, hear on the radio, or read in the newspaper/on the computer, and thus even if it is falsified, not the complete truth, or coming from one individual who is falsely claiming to represent a group as a whole, we take it to be the truth, we read it, and we either like that person, don't care about that person, or hate that person [or group]. That's just how things work.

[Sapphire]

No your wrong stop trying to be superior. HITLER KILLED THOSE WHO DID NOT FIT IN THE ARYAN RACE. If you weren't christian you were killed, you were killed one by one like mice. He used the church because it advocated views against what he said. Stuff like, you can be what you want to be and you are who God deemed you to be. That's why he knocked them down and used them as propaganda because they interfeared.

-Edit- Also the church said he had no right doing what he was doing. Of course he wasn't going to let anyone stop him from building Germanica.
Check your history. Not all Christians were spared and left unhassled. If they said/did things that weren't in line with what he wanted, they recieved the same fate as the others.

And Christian values, views, teachings and beliefs have nothing to do with the twisted workings of a dictators mind. Christianity didn't spark his derranged views.

He kept the Catholic Churches in tact and propaganda-free since Hitler and the Pope signed a Concordat. Other than that, he used them as places to preach more propaganda to the public to increase exposure to his message, decrease exposure to the message of the opposition and to keep a firm grip on them.

And, Hitler's Aryan race wasn't based on religion. It was based on the typical Northern European physical characteristics.
Jews were deemed to be non-Aryan because they physically don't match that (dark hair etc) and because he deemed them to be sub-human.

I'm not going to get into an argument over historical fact, because you're actually ignoring my point, Christianity and ties to "the" or "a" church are not what I'm getting at. Yeah, Hitler wasn't a "religious" guy, but still, he massacred anyone who wasn't Aryan, which, for the most part, meant anyone that didn't fit his physical profile (and 90% [not an actual statistic, but a rough estimation] of those who he "spared"/deemed Aryan, were Christian)
The fact that the majority of his Aryan race was Christian is more because it was the dominant religion and because Jews were already taken out of the picture, so to speak.

My point is Christianity, as well as every other f-ing religion, has been at least an indirect cause of almost every conflict that has occurred since basic religions were formed
Really??
Well, religion had nothing to do with the start of WW1 or WW2. It had nothing to do with the English Civil War. It was not the cause of the conflict between Troy and Sparta. It didn't cause this Gulf War. Religion was not the cause of the Roman invasions.

If there's something you disagree with, bring it forth, because everything I said is true, even if its not 1000% accurate, its true to one extent or another. There is no denying the fact that the news publicizes radical Christians and Christians who oppose things they view as radical (such as homosexuality) even if the majority of Christians think other wise. We are all influenced by what we see on TV, hear on the radio, or read in the newspaper/on the computer, and thus even if it is falsified, not the complete truth, or coming from one individual who is falsely claiming to represent a group as a whole, we take it to be the truth, we read it, and we either like that person, don't care about that person, or hate that person [or group]. That's just how things work.
Well, sadly, you have made some errors as addressed above.

Of course, the media will affect how you view things. That is how politicians, the press and dictators are able to manipulate it. As I am not in your country, I cannot pass judgement on the press coverage of hate-crimes by Christians. We don't have such extreme cases here and I so can't even compare press coverage here.

[The Batman]

I am so confused I thought this was about if Homosexuality is ok, not if Christianity causes the world's probelms

[Requin]

I am so confused I thought this was about if Homosexuality is ok, not if Christianity causes the world's probelms

Hoorah! Well done Tom! :yeah:

What has whether your religious or not got anything to do with homosexuality, yes, some people who are religious may have different views on it....but SO WHAT!!!!!

who cares? It's here, now, and whatever causes problems in the past can't be changed, I can't see how arguing about them can make a difference.

[ellomate2012]

it doesnt matter ur still the same person
if ur an asshole ur still ganna be an ass
u should be looked at for who u r not ur sexuailty

[sploshblosh]

hell no

[Oblivion]

hell no

Any reasons?
You stated your opinion in the poll; why post if you just restate it without other info?

[fireice99]

Well, i agree with SLADE. AT first i was also confused, but when i read Leviticus, God clearly said that homosexuality is detestable. Also, lust is the selfish feeling of desire for oneself. Love is the all, healthy giving desire. Thats the big difference. Another proof: God destroyed Sodom and Gomorrah because they were sexually immoral.

Also, to Disco lemonade or whatever, please dont insult Christians. Its already bad enough that you dont believe in God, so dont insult Him please.

Also, there are no more unforgivable sins already. Indeed there is blashphemy, but it was only unforgivable to the ancient people ( i forgot). To worried Christians, after God died at Calvary, ALL sins were forgiven. But before hitherto, it was an unforgivable sin as the ancient people accused God's miracles as satanic arts.

To add, i am not a holy priest or whatever. I have done many sinful things (such as watching porn and jacking off) Its damn hard to resist the urges but i just hope i'll get over it with lots of praying.

[Galinofied]

meh you shouldn't make judgements on people based on the bible god says homosexuality is wrong but also says that you should accept everyone. god also thought killing someones son to see how strong his faith was was a good idea. (btw im a christian i jsut have a different outlook on a lot of stuff compared to the bible).

[The Resurrected One]

Well, i agree with SLADE. AT first i was also confused, but when i read Leviticus, God clearly said that homosexuality is detestable. Also, lust is the selfish feeling of desire for oneself. Love is the all, healthy giving desire. Thats the big difference. Another proof: God destroyed Sodom and Gomorrah because they were sexually immoral.

Also, to Disco lemonade or whatever, please dont insult Christians. Its already bad enough that you dont believe in God, so dont insult Him please.

Also, there are no more unforgivable sins already. Indeed there is blashphemy, but it was only unforgivable to the ancient people ( i forgot). To worried Christians, after God died at Calvary, ALL sins were forgiven. But before hitherto, it was an unforgivable sin as the ancient people accused God's miracles as satanic arts.

To add, i am not a holy priest or whatever. I have done many sinful things (such as watching porn and jacking off) Its damn hard to resist the urges but i just hope i'll get over it with lots of praying.

You must have missed my post in a different thread about the stuff you were saying. We don't want to hear that Bible stuff.

hell no

And who the hell are you? I saw your other posts where you said you were TEN years old! The other posts you made were just trolling and homophobic. Something's probably wrong with you, little one, and you may not even know what the word "homophobic" means.

Oh, and I reported this to our King Ant.

[Sapphire]

You must have missed my post in a different thread about the stuff you were saying. We don't want to hear that Bible stuff.
This thread asks for peoples opinions and that is what he has done. If you don't like it, then just steer clear of him. Don't tell him that he can't post his opinion when it is asked for because you don't agree with him.

And who the hell are you? I saw your other posts where you said you were TEN years old! The other posts you made were just trolling and homophobic. Something's probably wrong with you, little one, and you may not even know what the word "homophobic" means.

Oh, and I reported this to our King Ant.
Who the hell are you to constantly have a go at people for thinking differently to you?
And, if you have reported him, do you really need to respond to him?

[The Resurrected One]

And, if you have reported him, do you really need to respond to him?

He deserved it.

[Sapphire]

Deserved what? For you to give him abuse?

[Never_Forget]

After reading this thread, I conclude that Sugar And Spice's posts are the least helpful.

Also, Yes, homosexuality is OK, I'm bisexual myself and I love to laugh at the simpletons whose tiny underdeveloped brains cannot comprehend that homosexuality is NOT a choice.
Also, in response to all the pro-christian posts, in the Bible homosexuality is named a sin, meaning that Christians are the most likely to be anti-homosexual and homophobic, because *apparently* homosexuality is wrong and you will be sent to hell for it.

The Cross denies the free will to be gay but promotes free will in general and to be who we are? What deranged, homophobic group of lunatics wrote the Bible, anyway?

EDIT:
My Conclusion:
It is fine to be gay publicly or privately and Sugar And Spice is just trolling.

EDIT2:
The Dark Knight, is your signature image done on photoshop by using horizontal text mask then colour burn?

[Sapphire]

After reading this thread, I conclude that Sugar And Spice's posts are the least helpful.Helpful? This thread is about opinions. It's not about helping anyone.

EDIT:
My Conclusion:
It is fine to be gay publicly or privately and Sugar And Spice is just trolling.
Ha! You obviously haven't read the whole of this thread as you have claimed. Nor do you know me enough to assume that I am against being homosexual. (Seeing as I am bisexual, it would be hypocritical of myself to be against it)
I am not homophobic and have just corrected false historical facts and stood up for people who are being criticised for their personal beliefs.

Also, Yes, homosexuality is OK, I'm bisexual myself and I love to laugh at the simpletons whose tiny underdeveloped brains cannot comprehend that homosexuality is NOT a choice.Nobody has said that it is a choice. Everyone is entitled to their own opinions and you should let them just get on with it, instead of insulting them.
Also, in response to all the pro-christian posts, in the Bible homosexuality is named a sin, meaning that Christians are the most likely to be anti-homosexual and homophobic, because *apparently* homosexuality is wrong and you will be sent to hell for it.

The Jewish Holy Scriptures also hold anti-homosexual statements. As does the Muslim Holy Scripture. How can one out of the three be deemed as "most likely to..."?

The Cross denies the free will to be gay but promotes free will in general and to be who we are? What deranged, homophobic group of lunatics wrote the Bible, anyway?
The Bible states that it is a sin. But, all sins can be forgiven because of Jesus' sacrifice.

[Archer600]

I'm fine with gays as long as they aren't atracted to me

[alsoknownas]

im afraid i said no.

But I dont juge, people have diferent feeling bus i just feel a guy shoulf be with a girl and vice versa but it is a free world and people are diferent.

that shoule mean im neutral but i would feel a bit awkward talking face to face with someone that wasnt straight

[Rutherford The Brave]

Also, to Disco lemonade or whatever, please dont insult Christians. Its already bad enough that you dont believe in God, so dont insult Him please.

I can insult christians because they've done it to me. Also its NOT BAD that I believe in God, I'm from a different culture, and I can choose to believe in whomever I want to without you judging me, so you can't say that it's bad because then your a massive hypocrite.

[Oblivion]

I can insult christians because they've done it to me. Also its NOT BAD that I believe in God, I'm from a different culture, and I can choose to believe in whomever I want to without you judging me, so you can't say that it's bad because then your a massive hypocrite.

Actually insulting anyone is against the rules,
No matter what they have done to you (they being certain Christians, i suppose)
If you have a problem with someone on the site insulting you, talk to a moderator or admin about it, dont just insult back

[keidriantiger]

I think homosexuality is OK :D My main reasons are because I'm bi and I am not fully Christian (My religion is very mixed). I think people have a right to choose what gender they will love as a mate and live with. I also think Homosexual acts should be carried out in public because straight people get to do it so why not Gays? (or Bi's) Aren't we all equal?

[sirma]

If people want to be homosexual...so be it, but i still don't think it's okay...for me anyway!

[ThatDude93]

I used to be neutral ,but after thinking about I am ok with homosexuality :)

If someone has the feel to be homosexual, then so be it. I just don't think it is right for me :p

[george]

I honestly don't care. People can have their opinions on whether or not it's "good" or "bad" but the truth is that you'll never know whether what your saying is true or not, because no one knows. How do you KNOW that what the bible says is true? How do you know what the bible says is false? You can believe in it and many people do but how do you know whether it's right or not? You could have "proof" that says that homosexuality is wrong/right, but how would you know that the proof is right?

I think people should just believe what they want to believe, or don't want to believe, and leave it at that. People shouldn't fight over whether their opinions or beliefs are "true" or not.

Johnny, if you want peoples opinions on why they think homosexuality is wrong but even when they state their reason and you just call it bullshit, you're not better than better, maybe even worse. You purposely want to go out and insult the people who believe it's wrong by wanting the poll to be public. You've already made you mind up about them so why go on about it?

I'm gay and christian so you can't exactly say I'm taking any side.

[tbboltz92]

Hell yes it's ok. We live in country the (usa) where we have freedom we should be aloud to do what ever the hell we want with in reason. And if two guys wanna get married hell letem.

[Justin16]

Do you think homosexuality is okay?

Just wondering.I think it is wrong as it is a choice. The bible condemns homosexuality and I believe in the bible.

It is not "natural" to be homosexual as nature intends on species to multiply and the only way a species can multiply is through sex between two different sexes.

So no, homosexuality is not the natural order.

Call me a bigot, but this is what I truly believe.

I'm neutral really. I don't care what people do in privacy. I am the same. Who am I to judge what people do in the bedroom? However, when judgment day comes, they'll have to answer to God.

There is absolutely nothing wrong with that. I'd like to know who answered "no" on the poll. Somebody's a homophobic bigot. Seriously folks, this is 2008. Soon to be 2009! Are we seriously still going to have to deal with this kind of discrimination?!It isn't discrimination. It is no different to people disagreeing with other peoples sexual fetishes. I mean I think people who go to brothels to be whipped and spanked are kinda gross.

I'd like for it to be a public poll.

People are like "Oh, it's opinion. People are all entitled to their opinion".

Well, yeah, but if their opinion is that being any sexual orientation, race, or anything else, is bad, then their opinion is not ok.People are entitled to an opinion, and just because they voted that they disagree with homosexuality doesn't mean they're homophobic.

I disagree with homosexuality as a lifestyle choice, but I am not afraid (phobia) of homosexuals.

I put yes
and I don't think people should be butting in on other peoples life'sI don't agree with making homosexuality a crime, but I do think it is against God's law which they'll have to answer to at judgment day.

Actually the choice is up to the person. Its really their prerogative...I agree, I think homosexuality is a choice as well.

People are born with an instinct to procreate, if we weren't humans would have died out millions of years ago.

I am neutral.. Like Jared said, who cares what you do in privacy, but don't do it in public.Yeah exactly. Here in Sydney they have every year a thing called the Gay and Lesbian Mardi Gras, where homosexuals run around on a public street in very revealing clothes and are really gross about it. I mean children could be walking along the street being subjected to it.

The very fact they have a thing called "The Sleaze Ball" (http://www.mardigras.org.au/internal.cfm?sub=The%20Sleaze%20Ball&nav=The%20Sleaze%20Ball) shows that it is not really about love, it is really just about sex.

Ok the church says its wrong...............BUT..................why would God make it that way if he did not want that????? Please answer that and I will find homosexuality wrongHe didn't, we as people make decisions, and people have made a decision to be homosexual.

Are you a Christian. I am (:

The Bible forbids homosexuality, I mean, it does not outrightly condemn it, but it defeats the purpose of God's will for one man and woman to be together. To correct Avalikia, the feeling is temptation ( so ive read) and that it can be overcomed.

Not being insulting to homosexuals. We are just bringing religion into this matter.Exactly.

But the bible does condemn homosexuality, in this verse:

Lev 20:13 - If a man also lie with mankind, as he lieth with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination: they shall surely be put to death; their blood shall be upon them.

So the bible is very clear on its condemnation of the lifestyle.

I honestly don't care. People can have their opinions on whether or not it's "good" or "bad" but the truth is that you'll never know whether what your saying is true or not, because no one knows. How do you KNOW that what the bible says is true? How do you know what the bible says is false? You can believe in it and many people do but how do you know whether it's right or not? You could have "proof" that says that homosexuality is wrong/right, but how would you know that the proof is right?I know for sure the bible is true because of the prophecies that have come to pass.

For me the bible ain't theory, it is fact.

[The Batman]

The only people who say homosexuality is a choice are the people that have never had to go through what we have. It's one thing to read about it, but to actually go through it is a whole different thing. The only parts in the bible that say anything that could be against homosexuality have been interpreted in so many different ways that you only take it as what you want and possibly not even it's real meaning. Homosexuality has been around for centuries and yes it is a natural occurrence. There are gay animals.

Yeah exactly. Here in Sydney they have every year a thing called the Gay and Lesbian Mardi Gras, where homosexuals run around on a public street in very revealing clothes and are really gross about it. I mean children could be walking along the street being subjected to it.

The very fact they have a thing called "The Sleaze Ball" (http://www.mardigras.org.au/internal...0Sleaze%20Ball (http://www.mardigras.org.au/internal.cfm?sub=The%20Sleaze%20Ball&nav=The%20Sleaze%20Ball)) shows that it is not really about love, it is really just about sex. I wanted to quotes this because the exact same shit happens during Mardi Gras by straight people. What difference does it make who it's done by, would you rather a bunch of half naked straight people do it?

Saying that we'll have to answer to god because of our sexuality is really pissing me off because who are you to say what is and isn't a sin. If god had a huge problem with homosexuality it would be written in the bible without any kind of confusion in it.

So before you say it's a choice again why don't you choose to be gay for a day and see if it works.

[Antares]

The only people who say homosexuality is a choice are the people that have never had to go through what we have. It's one thing to read about it, but to actually go through it is a whole different thing. The only parts in the bible that say anything that could be against homosexuality have been interpreted in so many different ways that you only take it as what you want and possibly not even it's real meaning. Homosexuality has been around for centuries and yes it is a natural occurrence. There are gay animals.

I wanted to quotes this because the exact same shit happens during Mardi Gras by straight people. What difference does it make who it's done by, would you rather a bunch of half naked straight people do it?

Saying that we'll have to answer to god because of our sexuality is really pissing me off because who are you to say what is and isn't a sin. If god had a huge problem with homosexuality it would be written in the bible without any kind of confusion in it.

So before you say it's a choice again why don't you choose to be gay for a day and see if it works.

What he said.
Rep+

Ya he said it all.
Except the only thing for me is that I think most people are naive and should be required to take mental education classes (lol...a bit extreme but people need to learn)

[Sapphire]

Why do the GLBT community need their own Mardi Gras in the first place? They have Gay Pride to declare that they are happy with their sexuality. There is no good reason, from where I'm standing anyway, that dictates the need for their own Mardi Gras.

I wanted to quotes this because the exact same shit happens during Mardi Gras by straight people. What difference does it make who it's done by, would you rather a bunch of half naked straight people do it?

Saying that we'll have to answer to god because of our sexuality is really pissing me off because who are you to say what is and isn't a sin. If god had a huge problem with homosexuality it would be written in the bible without any kind of confusion in it.

So before you say it's a choice again why don't you choose to be gay for a day and see if it works.
It isn't him that is dictating that it's a sin. Nearly every religion is disapproves of homosexuality. It was once regarded as a mental illness by physicians too, so you can't just shoot back with anti-religion shite. And, I think that the Biblical quote given by Justin16 is pretty unambiguous, to be frank.

If it's pissing you off then don't read anymore of the replies to this and don't respond. This is all about different opinions and therefore not worth shortening your life over because you are pissed off.

[The Batman]

That verse has many different translations other than the one he put and I wasn't just pointing my finger at him it was to anyone who says that they know for a fact it's a sin.

I'm not anti religious I'm a Christian and I have been all my life.

[Sapphire]

Are there any verses in the Bible that actually support homosexuality?

[The Resurrected One]

What the fuck! Homosexuality is not a choice. Fuck what the Bible says and ask someone who actually knows about the topic!

[Sapphire]

What the fuck! Homosexuality is not a choice. Fuck what the Bible says and ask someone who actually knows about the topic!
Are you talking to me or Justin16??

[The Resurrected One]

Justin16.

[fireice99]

What the fuck! Homosexuality is not a choice. Fuck what the Bible says and ask someone who actually knows about the topic!

I advise you to not use vulgarities on God. Its not blasphemy, but its wrong! Please respect peoples' religion. I dont care if you are in some cult with crazy ideals but please do not insult MY or ANY BODY ELESES religion.

Blasphemy is insulting or crediting the miracles of the Holy Spirit to the devil.

To Justin16: Is your Version King James?

To dunnowho: There are many many verses in the Bible that condemn homosexuality. Although there are raging hormones, we cant 100% blame it.

[fireice99]

I think it is wrong as it is a choice. The bible condemns homosexuality and I believe in the bible.

It is not "natural" to be homosexual as nature intends on species to multiply and the only way a species can multiply is through sex between two different sexes.

So no, homosexuality is not the natural order.

Call me a bigot, but this is what I truly believe.

I am the same. Who am I to judge what people do in the bedroom? However, when judgment day comes, they'll have to answer to God.

It isn't discrimination. It is no different to people disagreeing with other peoples sexual fetishes. I mean I think people who go to brothels to be whipped and spanked are kinda gross.

People are entitled to an opinion, and just because they voted that they disagree with homosexuality doesn't mean they're homophobic.

I disagree with homosexuality as a lifestyle choice, but I am not afraid (phobia) of homosexuals.

I don't agree with making homosexuality a crime, but I do think it is against God's law which they'll have to answer to at judgment day.

I agree, I think homosexuality is a choice as well.

People are born with an instinct to procreate, if we weren't humans would have died out millions of years ago.

Yeah exactly. Here in Sydney they have every year a thing called the Gay and Lesbian Mardi Gras, where homosexuals run around on a public street in very revealing clothes and are really gross about it. I mean children could be walking along the street being subjected to it.

The very fact they have a thing called "The Sleaze Ball" (http://www.mardigras.org.au/internal.cfm?sub=The%20Sleaze%20Ball&nav=The%20Sleaze%20Ball) shows that it is not really about love, it is really just about sex.

He didn't, we as people make decisions, and people have made a decision to be homosexual.

Exactly.

But the bible does condemn homosexuality, in this verse:

Lev 20:13 - If a man also lie with mankind, as he lieth with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination: they shall surely be put to death; their blood shall be upon them.

So the bible is very clear on its condemnation of the lifestyle.

I know for sure the bible is true because of the prophecies that have come to pass.

For me the bible ain't theory, it is fact.

True! Thanks for quoting the Scriptures. I think there are many more...
The Bible is true, undoubtedly. (:
Rock on, CHildren of Christ!!!

[The Resurrected One]

You are pathetic and painfully stupid.

Someone lock this thread and put an end to this conflict.

[Sapphire]

You are pathetic and painfully stupid.

Someone lock this thread and put an end to this conflict.
You are the one creating the conflict! No one has attacked you and yet you call people names, insult people and have a go at those with a different opinion to yourself.

Yes, ok, you may find their opinions offensive. BUT, this thread is asking for a variety of different people's opinions. You cannot tell them that they are wrong and the scum of the earth for answering this question with honesty. If they were attacking homosexuals then that would be different. However, they are not doing anything wrong here. You just have to accept that not everyone agrees with you.

No one is forcing you to continue to read this thread. No one is forcing you to continue to respond. If you can't at least be civil to those you disagree with then you shouldn't be replying at all.

[Oblivion]

You are pathetic and painfully stupid.

Someone lock this thread and put an end to this conflict.

Just a reminder to everyone, insults are not OK

Please, everyone, get back on topic.

[tombstonequeen]

yes love whoever u wish to

[sabin22]

of course

[Rutherford The Brave]

True! Thanks for quoting the Scriptures. I think there are many more...
The Bible is true, undoubtedly. (:
Rock on, CHildren of Christ!!!

Once again the bible is not true, it's emphasized and exaggerated to prove a point. It's not a historical book, it's a theological book as stated by the Vatican. Also if it is an abomination for a man to sleep with a man, then sleep overs would be likely cause for one to die. So that's why it's not only terrible to say that homosexuality is bad, but in the bible's case its like condeming innocent people for something that is totally not wrong by today's standards. Plus if we condemn them all we are hypocrites for saying they can't love who they want to love.

[ThatDude93]

I live in a very rural religious area. So here homosexuality is like murder to most. But in the youth here, it is being accepted more. I myself am religious and heterosexual but my view on homosexuality is that I am ok with it. I do not support it, but I don't hate people that are gay or bi.

[Origami]

Due to my own personal religious beliefs I should be against homosexuality. Despite preachings and teaching since I was a young child I've grown to care less. I believe if two guys or two girls wanna go out and get married, raise a family, die happy, so be it. It's a personal choice within a person. I don't mind it at all, I do not support it, but I do not discriminate it either. Most awesome people happen to be gay or bi, straight people bore me these days.

[Gumleaf]

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[MoveAlong]

Why? It seems like this thread could stay and do some good. Isn't the poll still open?