Hunting

[Maverick]

What are your opinions on hunting?

[Θάνατος]

I think hunting is good as long as it is for getting food for your family or getting rid of animals that ruin crops that farmers grow.

[serial-thrilla]

If its for food. Personally, I think that sport hunting is stupid.

[BlackenedSilver]

Hate hunting but I guess if its for food its not so bad..
But we have no need for food hunting anymore really thanks to supermarkets.

[Whisper]

What are your opinions on hunting?

Extremly profitable 8-)

[Atonement]

I think that hunting is wrong as a sport. If it is to control population, I support it, if its handled properly and humanly. I also don't mind it if it is sanitary and they consume all they can of the animal. But I dont understand the whole, OH! I SHOT SOMETHING! I AM A MAN! it just doesnt make sense.

[Zephyr]

I've never been,
I don't know if I ever would or not,
I just don't have it in me to kill animals that arn't bothering me.
But I don't care if other people do it,
Just don't over hunt though.

[Mzor203]

I would never do it... I couldn't handle knowing that I'd killed something on purpose, even if it was for food...

If it's for food, that's fine... But hunting for sport is wrong.

[Θάνατος]

Hate hunting but I guess if its for food its not so bad..
But we have no need for food hunting anymore really thanks to supermarkets.

I have never heard of God recalling his animals because of Mad Cow disease and contamination due to improper handling of feces while processing the meat. Never heard of Avian bird flu from wild birds.

What about the families who can't afford to buy meat and hunting for meat is their only source of meat?

Not only that hunting animals also thins the herds since us humans have wiped out their natural predators.

[CaptainObvious]

I have never heard of God recalling his animals because of Mad Cow disease and contamination due to improper handling of feces while processing the meat. Never heard of Avian bird flu from wild birds.

What about the families who can't afford to buy meat and hunting for meat is their only source of meat?

Not only that hunting animals also thins the herds since us humans have wiped out their natural predators.

And what percentage of hunters hunt to feed their families? Probably low to none, since it costs more per pound of meat to kill it yourself than to buy it.

What percentage of hunters kill to thin the population and restore order to the ecosystem? Again, probably none, unless by the ecosystem you mean "MAH TROPHY WALL"...

I actually don't really mind hunting, but consider it a bit of a waste.

[Random_oso06]

i don't like hunting and the people that do it for fun i know that if there are to may or the kind thre will less food and several young and old animals will die and then every thing will turn in balence then them there are the people that hunt just beacause they want to then they have the nerve to use there heads as trofies whats does that have to prove to make it short i don't like it

[Mzor203]

And what percentage of hunters hunt to feed their families? Probably low to none, since it costs more per pound of meat to kill it yourself than to buy it.

What percentage of hunters kill to thin the population and restore order to the ecosystem? Again, probably none, unless by the ecosystem you mean "MAH TROPHY WALL"...

I actually don't really mind hunting, but consider it a bit of a waste.

Hmm... I think this is a bit off.

Up here, you can get like... up to 750 pounds of moose meat with a well aimed shot or two. That is a LOT of meat. So, it can be quite worth it. And it's more environmentally friendly than feeding a cow for a year or two and then burning all that fuel for transportation, plus the methane the cows emit.

Anyway, it costs a bunch to start out hunting, but you could borrow a gun from someone else if you have a friend who hunts, and if you do it on a regular basis, you can save.

Now, with bow hunting, it costs a LOT less to get started, and to keep up if the arrows don't break. Sure, you probably aren't going to be bringing down moose, but you can still profit.

Some people actually think about what they're doing and plan it out, not just to randomly shoot things. ;)

[Θάνατος]

And what percentage of hunters hunt to feed their families? Probably low to none, since it costs more per pound of meat to kill it yourself than to buy it.

What percentage of hunters kill to thin the population and restore order to the ecosystem? Again, probably none, unless by the ecosystem you mean "MAH TROPHY WALL"...

I actually don't really mind hunting, but consider it a bit of a waste.

Well most hunters that I know kill the animal for the meat. Like Celeritas said is his post you can get a lot of meat from killing the animal. It takes a lot of skill to hunt with a bow. It takes skill to hit the animal in the kill zone which is the heart and lungs and a small area right behind the front legs.on bigger animals it is bigger but on smaller animals it is very small ans takes great skill to hit it.

It is cheaper to go hunting and cut your own meat than it is to go buy it at the store.

[Avalikia]

The problem I have with hunters is that it's not as environmentally sound as they seem to think it is. Often they justify it by saying that such and such number of such and such species need to be killed in a particular year because otherwise there would be an overpopulation and they'd all starve. That's sometimes true, but often the reason for that is because the natural predators that are supposed to do that have been killed off and/or their numbers are too few to do the job. If populations have to be managed this way it's obvious that something else has been mismanaged. And the natural predators do a better job - they go after the small and sick ones who are obviously weak, leaving the stronger ones to survive. Human hunters, on the other hand, take pride in getting the strongest animal they can find.

I don't think the fact that you use the meat is any justification if you can easily afford to buy meat from the store. The meat at the store is from animals who were bred and cared for by humans (though admittedly not always to the best standard, but that's a separate issue), whereas any animal you hunt probably had a very rough life. And it's not particularily fair to hunt with a gun - any idiot can end up getting lucky that way; it's like cheating. If you're going to play a game of life or death, skill should be an absolute requirement and not just a helpful extra.

[Camazotz]

As everyone else said, if it's for sport, it's wrong. There's no reason to kill an innocent animal if you're going to waste it. Eat all of the meat.

[Antares]

Kill only what you need. Actually, I think hunting is stupid in the sense for "fun". You don't see people going around killing humans for "fun". That's stupid, especially when you kill the animals in inhumane ways. If you were actually hungry then kill what you need.

[Callwaiting]

I'm opposed to sport hunting, but I guess I'm also opposed to hunting for meat.
I can understand that it might be a thrill to get a good shot, but you're taking a life just for an adrenaline rush, which I think is extremely unfair and selfish.
If you live in a first world country meat isn't a necessity anyway, and 99% of people can afford it. That's why god made supermarkets.

If it has a cultural significance then as long as the animal is killed humanely I think that's ok, as long as it doesn't get to Japans level. E.g "Let's go kill dem whales for culture!" where it gets completely out of hand.

[pontiacdriver]

What are your opinions on hunting?

I definitely think hunting should be allowed, and as long as it is regulated, then there should be no problems with it. When I mean that hunting should be regulated what I mean is that hunters should be licensed and be educated on the right times of year to hunt for whatever animal along with a guidebook on acceptable kinds of weaponry to be used on the hunt. Hunting definitely is very important and vital because there are times when animals need to be culled due to overpopulation. In some areas deer collosions are becoming all too common and devastating because deer numbers are reaching very high numbers, and the deer do not have natural predators in some places thus causing their number to get high. Also, the overpopulatin of deer causes food supplies for those animals to be strained as well as for deer that are normally sick and weak to stay alive spreading diseases such as "Chronic Wasting Syndrome." As a result, hunting for the sake of culling is necessary for the sake of humans as well as the animals.

[*Dissident*]

To be honest, here in middle Tennessee hunting is a necessary evil. there are WAY to many deer. I mean, WAY TO MANY. they are everywhere, they eat plants in yards, are a serious danger to drivers, and are over populated anyway. Sure, I feel bad that some animals god/the spirit/science created have to die for these problems to be rectified, but it needs to happen. That doesn't mean I like most hunters. most of the ones I know are really piggish and have a "I am a man because I kill things" mentality. As long as you kill adult males of a non-endangered species (preferably the opposite) then I don't really have a problem with hunting in itself.

[Mzor203]

I'm opposed to sport hunting, but I guess I'm also opposed to hunting for meat.
I can understand that it might be a thrill to get a good shot, but you're taking a life just for an adrenaline rush, which I think is extremely unfair and selfish.
If you live in a first world country meat isn't a necessity anyway, and 99% of people can afford it. That's why god made supermarkets.

If it has a cultural significance then as long as the animal is killed humanely I think that's ok, as long as it doesn't get to Japans level. E.g "Let's go kill dem whales for culture!" where it gets completely out of hand.

If you see how meat raised for eating is treated, you might take that back. While it may be unfair to take an animal's life when it had to work to survive, it's part of the natural cycle that has been around for thousands and millions, even billions of year. Animals eat animals, it's the food chain. It was how mother nature intended.

What mother nature did not intend was animals being locked up in small cages, abused, and finally sent to a chopping block to end their life. It is much more humane to let the animals live their life in the wild, doing their natural duty, and then giving them a quick death than it is to prolong the process for years. Supermarkets may be convenient, but very little of the meat you get from there is got more humanely.

[iJack]

Anything but hunting for sport is fine [-]for[/-] by me.

[Whisper]

Speaking of how immoral sport hunting is we have two hunters from Arizona arriving today for moose
so i'm excited I don't like hunting cause I think meats disgusting like if I could go shoot me a pie I'd slaughter them constantly
but I like going out on the quads and its great money

and before everyone starts bitching me out for how horrible I am all the meats given away and used

And callwaiting when you are living on you're own and paying the grocery bills then you can tell me everyone can afford it until then
negative

Food is extremly expensive
espically when you have a family


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[CookieMonster]

I'm fine with hunting if your family needs the food. For some families, hunting is the only way they'll have food on the table. I myself would never go hunting....unless absolutely necessary.

[Underground_Network]

Without reading anyone else's posts, my opinion on hunting is that if its for food it's okay, but if its for sport it's a no-no. I just don't see the sense in killing something if you're not going to do anything with it (or mount its head on your wall/stuff it and put it in display in your house). I especially despise people who kill endangered species....

Also torturing an animal or intentionally inflicting a painful yet nonfatal wound on an animal is also extremely despicable, even if you eventually kill it and use it for food.

[foof1]

What's the point of hunting when there is already meat in the supermarket that you can just get and cook and then eat. There is so much more to preparing a deer to be eaten and if you're just going to throw the deer away you are evil and have no heart.

[The Batman]

Not everyone can afford the meat in the supermarket. It'll be cheaper to go out and kill some deer to store for the winter than it is to go buy it at the supermarket. The economy is fucked and not everyone can't afford things now a days.

[Underground_Network]

^^ I think what he was trying to point out was that hunting should be only be "done" out of extreme necessity. IF you can afford meat at the supermarket, why hunt? If you can't afford it, then its okay, because its out of necessity.

[DarkWingedAngel]

i am completely against hunting
it is just cruel
like come on what did the animals do to you

[The Batman]

They breathed :evil:

lol jk jk

I have no problem with hunting because it's a basic instinct in humans. We do what we have to do to survive and it just happens to be hunting. So yea go kill bambi as long as you eat her.

[Callwaiting]

And callwaiting when you are living on you're own and paying the grocery bills then you can tell me everyone can afford it until then
negative

Food is extremly expensive
espically when you have a family



Nice. You obviously didn't even read what I wrote properly and jumped to the conclusion that I'm against you.

If you could take the time to re-read my post you'd find it only says meat isn't NECESSARY, which it isn't, and MOST people can afford meat. I don't mean a $50 steak, it could be a supermarket-brand pack of sausages.

[Whisper]

Nice. You obviously didn't even read what I wrote properly and jumped to the conclusion that I'm against you.

If you could take the time to re-read my post you'd find it only says meat isn't NECESSARY, which it isn't, and MOST people can afford meat. I don't mean a $50 steak, it could be a supermarket-brand pack of sausages.

Okay, well my family owns an outfitting business and as such we have allot of wild game meat that we gift away to individual family's.
So much so that on top of all the birds killed my dad usually gets a buffalo, pays to have it cut properly and then contacts the RCMP who give it to the woman's shelter. They all usually do without it period. This year we've expanded the company to big game so we won't have to purchase it for them, we'll just have it here from the hunters.

In my small area there are countless family's where they either have very little of it, or they don't eat it at all. Unless they've hunted it or it's been given to them. They can't afford it, especially in winter when natural gas costs sky rocket.


So I stick to my original post of: You obviously haven't paid for food.


As far as sport hunting as long as its within reason, managed and the meat isn't being wasted.
I personally have no issue with it. In Alberta the only people that give a rats ass about the marshes, the boreal forest, lakes and rivers, etc.... Are the hunters why? Because it has a direct reflect on the quality and capability of there hunts.
The farmers
The oil company's
The towns and city's
Don't give a fuck
and the average green citizen doesn't or can't pay near enough attention to or put enough effort into watching everything, everywhere, constantly.

Its not uncommon for farmers to drain entire lakes, it happened to one a half hr from my house 2yrs ago. The local hunters went insane and forced to gov to pay attention through media embarrassment which caused them to take action resulting in a 25grand fine for the farmer and the lake was refilled through temporary canals and dams built to capture the spring run-off.

The lake that our town lives right up against has been drained waaay down countless times by farmers and an oil company from the opposite side.
My dad, an outfitter is the only one who calls water works CONSTANTLY. That's a massive staging ground for waterfowl which is our business and he realizes that its important for the town to grow by attracting business, new family's, etc.....
Not a single other person in our entire town has ever called so says the guy in charge of the water for our region.


Allot of people slam hunters because there evil and do nothing but kill and attack and harm bugs bunny etc...
Yet what few fail to realize is they're the one who are constantly fighting and watching the oil and gas, logging, mining, company's, the farmers, etc...


I don't hunt because I don't enjoy it
I don't eat meat because for my entire life, literally beginning when I started eating solid food I've been for the most part, a vegetarian.
But growing up around hunting and having worked in the oilfield I realize how much the average hunter does himself or donates to organizations such as Ducks Unlimited.
Without them the wildlife habitats would be far worse off not just in the western world but Africa as well

[Mannequin]

Hunting isn't doing the deer population any wrong. Deers are very overpopulated and if it wasn't for hunters thousands of forest acres around the nation would be trailor parks, sky scrapers, or office buildings. Keeping deer's environments alive saves them from being hit by cars (and saves the people driving the cars a lot of money and frustration) and the acres and controlling of the deer population also prevents many deers from starving and destroying people's yards to find food. controlling the population is helping them as a whole since they cant really help themselves

[ThatDude93]

I hunt, I live in the most redneck area in the world, or it seems like it, we get out the entire week before Thanksgiving just because it is deer season, of course i am okay with that...lol

But it sucks we have to go back the following Monday and Tuesday, then it is Thanksgiving break

They should just give us 2 weeks off :)

I went hunting today onthe last day of deer season, and didn't see a thing, it sucked....lol

[MissRuby]

Not everyone can afford the meat in the supermarket. It'll be cheaper to go out and kill some deer to store for the winter than it is to go buy it at the supermarket. The economy is fucked and not everyone can't afford things now a days.

I've noticed meat is getting more expensive over here too, another reason why I'm glad I'm a vegetarian. In any case though, if meat is too expensive for someone I can't understand why they just can't live without it for a while instead of going and killing innocent wild animals when there are grains, vegetables, fruit, beans etc that can be eaten. I'm not saying the world should give up eating meat because I know that'll never happen, but we should stop being so darn obsessed with it! There ARE other things on the food pyramid.
Anyway, back on topic...
Sport hunting is a joke. The animals are minding their own business and we think it's ok to kill them for fun? I don't get it, what's fun about murder? :confused: It's sick that we think it's ok to kill an animal and call it a sport yet punish people for killing eachother. It should go either way - killing eachother shoud be allowed or any and all sport hunting illegal.
Hunting for survival - I admit, even I would do it if my life depended on it. I think it's ok in that situation because it's what carnivores in the wild do everyday because they simply HAVE to and we would have to as well. Jeez, it beats dying!