Oh, cool! =D

[Aηdy]

Just finished installing Mac OSX on my other PC, dual booting with Vista!

I'll post screenshots tomorrow. First impressions are good though :D Need to modify the bios to make it work on my main desktop, and it's too late to do that tonight to that's tomorrow's job :)

[Falk 'Ace' Flyer]

What happened to hating Vista?

[mr. self destruct]

why not just buy a mac? :P

[Falk 'Ace' Flyer]

why not just buy a mac? :P

Because he has a computer already. Besides, it's fairly obvious why he wouldn't want a Mac. I mean, c'mon. It's a friggin' Mac.

[Techno Monster]

I actully want to buy a mac desktop when I move into my new house, and I have a desk... I don't hate vista, but I do hope that Windows 7 will be better.

[Aηdy]

I don't want to buy a mac because they cost 3x as much as my PC, which is just as powerful.

http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a102/muckingfuppet/01b79c44.png

And I do hate vista, but it's installed on my media centre pc which uses vista, as it works not too bad and I can't be bothered to change it right now.

[Mzor203]

What happened to all that stuff in your signature and avatar about macs sucking? Not an attack on you or anything, just wondering.

Anyway, looks neat. Someday I'm going to attempt to put another OS on my machine, probably Linux, or Mac if I'm feeling rich.

[Aηdy]

What happened to all that stuff in your signature and avatar about macs sucking? Not an attack on you or anything, just wondering.

Anyway, looks neat. Someday I'm going to attempt to put another OS on my machine, probably Linux, or Mac if I'm feeling rich.

I don't particularly like the mac hardware, especially the price. And the main aim of that was to piss someone off!

You should try Mac, it's free ;)

[brunza244311]

you should just go buy a mac dude!

[Aηdy]

No way. I'm not paying over £1500 for something like I've already got.

[Mzor203]

I don't particularly like the mac hardware, especially the price. And the main aim of that was to piss someone off!

You should try Mac, it's free ;)

Eh...

I dunno. I've never particularly liked Macs. The only reason I would even consider doing it would be so I could use GarageBand. Thus far I javen't found a decent Windows equivalent.

[The Resurrected One]

I don't particularly like the mac hardware, especially the price. And the main aim of that was to piss someone off!


Troll. ;)

[Blahages]

Just finished installing Mac OSX on my other PC, dual booting with Vista!

I'll post screenshots tomorrow. First impressions are good though :D Need to modify the bios to make it work on my main desktop, and it's too late to do that tonight to that's tomorrow's job :)

Something like this?

http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b191/blahages/IMG_0124-1.jpg

http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b191/blahages/IMG_0125.jpg

http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b191/blahages/IMG_0128.jpg

:P

[geiri94]

i tried once to dual boot mac os x with vista but i faild so bad i acidently erased all data from the hard drive so i had to instal vista all over again and that sucked. I dont know if i will bother trying it again maybe i will just buy a mac mini, but i am having doubts if it will run final cut pro.

[Patchy]

I so want to do this, but I'll cock up my bios if I do and I don't know a lot about configuring bios's

[Kiros]

Hot stuff, Bill. Everyone wants an 8-bit processor in their computer these days :)

[Blahages]

Hot stuff, Bill. Everyone wants an 8-bit processor in their computer these days :)


I have lots of old Macs/Apples. They're fun to play with. :P

[Aηdy]

I so want to do this, but I'll cock up my bios if I do and I don't know a lot about configuring bios's

You might not even havev to adjust your bios. On my other desktop it installed easier and quicker than Vista or XP!

Mac OS takes a serious amount of getting used to after a life of windows though!

[AutumnDae]

Being brought up on a Mac, and then going into school with Windows and whatnot, it is different.

But none of my friends have Macs, so I'm used to both.

[Blahages]

You might not even havev to adjust your bios. On my other desktop it installed easier and quicker than Vista or XP!

Mac OS takes a serious amount of getting used to after a life of windows though!

I tried it on like 6 different computers, and wasn't able to get it to work properly on any.

Granted, I didn't mess with the bios settings. I never got that far.

It FINALLY installed on the one in the picture above, BUT would not boot up normally. It would kernel panic every time. I had to boot in "Safe Mode" or whatever for it to even boot.

I think it works better with computers with Intel processors, though, and I only had one at the time, and it was a P4. I have two more Intel's now, and I haven't tried it on either yet.

[iJack]

Dont you just love Mac OS X?

(BTW, i posted this from parallels, Ubuntu Linux)

[Underage_Thinker]

Something like this?


Hey were you get that newegg cd case? I want one:D

[Blahages]

Hey were you get that newegg cd case? I want one:D

Someone where I work bought some stuff from Newegg a while back with an educational account and apparently got them. They didn't want it, so I ended up with it.

Maybe I'll ask them how they ended up with them.

Just from Googling, it looks like if you write a testimonial (http://www.newegg.com/Info/Testimonials.aspx) on their website, they send you free Newegg branded stuff, such as a license plate thingy, a hat, shirt, or something else.

I haven't actually tried it. Maybe I will. :P

Post #29 on page 2 of this thread (http://www.planetamd64.com/index.php?showtopic=26380) shows a picture someone took of the stuff they got.

[iJack]

Something like this?

http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b191/blahages/IMG_0124-1.jpg

Where did you get all that mac stuff?

[Aηdy]

I got bored of Mac OSX, back to XP.

[Kiros]

I have lots of old Macs/Apples. They're fun to play with. :P

Reminds me of elementary school (10 years ago). We had two old Apples in the back of the class that would only function with a 5.25" floppy inserted. That also brings back the memory of my arguing with the teacher. She was telling everyone that the world rotated at 5 miles per hour. I challenged her in front of the whole class by asking her if she really believed that the world was only 120 miles around (in circumference). Fun memories.

Also, old Apples make great paper-weights :)

[Blahages]

Where did you get all that mac stuff?

Work. I work in a School district. I started there a few years ago as part of an Internship in HS.

Most of them were gotten from Elementary Buildings. Teachers had them laying around, jammed in closets and whatnot, not using them. They either came to me and said they didn't want them, or I asked them if they wanted them, and if not, I'd remove them for them. :P

Most of them were happy to be rid of them. One teacher wouldn't part with her's, and still uses them.

A few other teachers used them for a year or two after I started here, then when we got new computers in all of their buildings last summer, they decided they didn't want them anymore.

One teacher with 4 Apple IIe's retired a year ago, and left two of them to me, and left two to her replacement teacher, but she didn't want anything to do with them.

The little Apple on the right of the picture I posted (one you quoted) is an Apple IIc, which I found in a book storage room in the High School, that had been sitting collecting dust on an overhead projector cart probably since the latter half of the 1990's.

That computer is designed to be a portable computer.

The little box on top of the Floppy drive here is the External AC Adapter for it.

Besides what's pictured there, I have several of those Apple IIe's, one that is from 1982. I've also got one Apple IIgs, although I'm short the original monitor for it. I've got one of the larger monitors that were came with an Apple IIe which is extra, but it's not currently set up.

They all came with a LOT of 5.25" floppies with games. Most are educational games, but not all.

Maybe I'll take some pictures of the stuff when I get home later today. :P

The newest Mac I have is the second from the left in that picture. It's a PowerMac 180 or whatever.

All of our buildings used to have Macs in them, back in the Late 80's and Early 90's. I looked back at one of my yearbooks from Preschool and Kindergarten, and you can see some of them. Most of them were gotten rid of, though, before I started working there.

The Apple IIe's that I have were used every single school day, I believe from the mid 80's when they were new until about a year to a year and a half ago. Shows how well they were built compared to some things.

Granted, a few monitors did die, and the computers have absolutely no moving parts, besides the floppy drives, so there's less to break, but they still held up well for ~20 years of use. One teacher said she left the computers on 24/7 (Besides Summers), and just turned off the Monitors.

So, you see, I'm not entirely against Macs. :P I love screwing with the old ones.

But, then again, I love messing with old computers in general. I've made a habit of collecting pretty much any old piece of computer equiptment that I can get my hands on.

All of the Apples besides the Mac SE/30 and the PowerMac I have run off bootable floppies. The others have a HDD.

I have a few of the Mac SE/30's. Another guy I worked with got a Mac Classic at the same time, and a Apple IIgs.

I think there were 3-4 of the SE/30s that I ended up with. 1-2 of them had failing screens and/or HDDs and other problems, so they didn't live too long afterward.

One of the 2 that I have that work now was having display issues, but it's either fixed, or it's intermittent now.

One of the SE/30s has OS 6.0 (I think?) on it, and the other SE/30 and the PowerMac have OS 7.5

The older Macs are nice because I can hook most of them up to a Composite connection on a TV, and use the TV as a monitor.

Reminds me of elementary school (10 years ago). We had two old Apples in the back of the class that would only function with a 5.25" floppy inserted. That also brings back the memory of my arguing with the teacher. She was telling everyone that the world rotated at 5 miles per hour. I challenged her in front of the whole class by asking her if she really believed that the world was only 120 miles around (in circumference). Fun memories.

Also, old Apples make great paper-weights :)

Yeah, that's where I got them, an Elementary school.

Paper-weights? Pfft. NOES!?

:P

I have a couple old Non-Apple computers, too. Two 8086's, a Compaq 286 Laptop, an IBM 386, a couple 486 Laptops, and a 486 Desktop, and several other nonsensical things.

Yeah, I hored anything computer related that is even the least bit interesting. :P I have too much crap.

Still, though, it makes me sad, now, when I remember back to when I was like 12 or so, and I had multiple 286's and 386's that my Dad had brought home from work for me to screw with, and after some time, he made me get rid of a lot of them. I took them outside, and oblivious to the worth that I would now place on them, proceeded to throw them against the cement and smash them with a sledge hammer.

I also remember taking the HDD out of an old 8086 or 80186 or something, and ripping it apart. It was one of those old card-based HDDs. I think it was 10MB. It was like 15 inches long.

Saddening. :P

Oh, and to go along with your Teacher thingy, I was in a 3rd grade classroom a year and a half ago working on the teacher's computer while she had a substitute for the day, and they were working on Division. She was writing the following on the board:

1/1 = 1
1/2 = 2
1/3 = 3
1/4 = 4
...
...

And saying it exactly like that. One divided by 1 is 1. One divided by 2 is 2.

I sat in the back of the room looking dumbfounded as to what this sub was teaching. The students were just silent, probably confused.

After a few minutes, I slowly walked up to her, and asked her if she was sure she was doing it right. I askeed her if she was sure she was doing division because is sure looked like she was accidentally doing multiplication, but with the wrong sign.

She just looked at me stupidly, and was like "No, that's not what we're doing."

So, I just figured, "WTF" and basically said "All right, whatever you say" and walked out, and laughed down the hallway. I told a few other people about it while I was there.

When the real teacher returned that afternoon, I told her, and she was quite upset. She asked one kid who was still there (This was after school) why they hadn't said anything. She said that everyone was just confused and didn't know what was going on.

Haha.

I've also corrected a few teachers in the past few years, and so has the guy I used to work with. He corrected one of them on a compound word (She was saying one was that wasn't), and I've corrected another one on a word that the teacher said wasn't a word.

It's a word that I've used quite a bit.

"Nonsensicalness."

She told me it wasn't a word. So, I walked down to the Library, grabbed the huge unabridged dictionary, and opened it, found the word, and took it back down to her room, and slammed it down on her desk, and pointed.

:P

Fun Nonsensicalness, is all I can say.

Everyone in my Middle School and HS computer classes would screw with the teachers. I used to make fake Error messages, and call the teacher over, or screenshot the desktop, add the error message to it, then set it as the wallpaper, and tell it to hide all the icons.

The screenshot would have the icons pictured, but if you were to click on them, obviously nothing would happen. So, I'd call her over, and tell her that my computer was locked up. She'd try to click something, and see the error, and just turn my computer off and turn it back on.

One student in Middle school deleted the entire Touch Typing database with all the student records in it, when he was upset about working on it. For whatever reason, I took it upon myself to try to find and restore a backup that was made. It worked, but it wasn't the right one. Apparently the school hadn't backed up the database at all that year. It was from the previous year.

Some 2nd grader decided to try to outsmart all of her teachers on the computer a few months back. They use a computer-based math program all the time, and she found an easy way to make it crash and refuse to take her password. The bug was replicatable, every time.

She kept telling her teachers that it wasn't working, and showing them that it wasn't. The problem eventually got forwarded to me, and I looked into it. She was the ONLY person with the problem, and I couldn't duplicate it. I had her log in and see if it did it. It would not.

Every time I had her try, it worked fine.

I messed around with it a while longer, and was finally able to get it to reliabily do that IF I typed in the password, told it to go on, and while it was loading the practice, I would hit "ESC" multiple times, and if you did it at a certain point, it would do this.

Of course, the teacher didn't know if she had been doing this, and the kid wouldn't admit to it.

So, a day or two later, I was told it was happening again. So, this time, when her class came down to the Computer lab, I positioned myself a little ways away from the kid and carefully peeked over towards her hands on the keyboard while she was starting the practice. She didn't notice me watching it. And, just as I thought, there went her hand, slowly up to the ESC button and hit it really fast, after she had looked around a little to make sure nobody was watching.

She put her hand up and told her teacher that it was broken. I walked over to her and told her that it wouldn't break if she didn't press that button.

I told her teacher what she had been doing, and the kid just looked over at me like she was just given a beating or something, like "I'VE BEEN CAUGHT!?!?"

Sorry, I get carried away rambling easily.

:P

Oh, well. I'm done

[Kiros]

Two 8086's, huh? Wow. Now if you also had an 8088, I would be really impressed :P

[iJack]

Oh, well. I'm done

You win longest post i didn't get bored by.


Can i come over to your house and play Mac? Lol.

[Blahages]

Two 8086's, huh? Wow. Now if you also had an 8088, I would be really impressed :P

I picked the two 8086's up at a garage sale a year ago for 14 dollars. And, that included the computer, monitor, and a LOT of games and programs. There were probably a good 40 or more programs and/or games for it.

It also came with a joystick. :P

Didn't come with a keyboard for either, but that's fine, because I already have a couple AT keyboards.

Unfortunately, no I don't have any 8088's. I want one. :P I don't have a 186 either.

Those 8086's are the only older computers I have like that that I spent any money on. The others are just ones I got for free.

The "fun" part about one of the 8086's that I have is, that you must have the computer laying on a particular side or the HDD will give you data read failures.

You win longest post i didn't get bored by.


Can i come over to your house and play Mac? Lol.

I'm no stranger to long posts. :P

[iJack]

I picked the two 8086's up at a garage sale a year ago for 14 dollars. And, that included the computer, monitor, and a LOT of games and programs. There were probably a good 40 or more programs and/or games for it.

It also came with a joystick. :P

Didn't come with a keyboard for either, but that's fine, because I already have a couple AT keyboards.

Unfortunately, no I don't have any 8088's. I want one. :P I don't have a 186 either.

Those 8086's are the only older computers I have like that that I spent any money on. The others are just ones I got for free.

The "fun" part about one of the 8086's that I have is, that you must have the computer laying on a particular side or the HDD will give you data read failures.



I'm no stranger to long posts. :P
No your not

8088's? What? Im not skilled in this

[Blahages]

No your not

8088's? What? Im not skilled in this

An 8088 is just another processor.

It's pretty much the same thing as the 8086, but with a couple small improvements.

8086 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/8086)
8088 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/8088)

[iJack]

An 8088 is just another processor.

It's pretty much the same thing as the 8086, but with a couple small improvements.

8086 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/8086)
8088 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/8088)
Ok, im not into that stuff, lol.

[Blahages]

Well, I have to correct myself. When I originally Identified the two 8086 processors in the two computers I was talking about above, I Identified them off the model of the computer, not by actually finding the chip on the motherboard. This appeared to give me 8086's for both.

I got curious, and opened them both up a few minutes ago, and this is what I got:

1 - Tandy 1000 SL - Has a "P8086-2 (http://www.cpu-world.com/CPUs/8086/Intel-P8086-2.html)" Processor.

2 - Commodore PC 10-III - Has a "SAD8088-1-P (http://www.digchips.com/datasheets/download_datasheet.php?id=851309&part-number=SAB8088-1-P)" (Click HERE (http://www.cpu-world.com/CPUs/8088/Siemens-SAB8088-1-P.html)for other Pic) Processor.

So, it turns out I was wrong. I do NOT have two 8086 computers. I have one 8086 and one 8088.

Yay. That makes me happier. :P

Two 8086's, huh? Wow. Now if you also had an 8088, I would be really impressed :P

Are you impressed now? Or do I lose that because of only having 1 8086 now? :P

Ok, im not into that stuff, lol.

It's just another processor variant.

Basically, it does the same basic thing as, say a Core 2 processor, or an Athlon x2 processor would do nowadays, but FAR slower, and has FAR more limited abilities.

Back in the Early days, they named the processors by numbers, such as 8086, 8088, 80186, 80188, 80286, 80386, and 80486.

Everything from the 186 on above is more commonly referred to without the first two numbers, such as the 186, 286, etc.

After the 486, they started a new naming scheme, for Intel, this went to the Pentium 1, and for AMD, it was the K5.

Then, obviously, it kept going. Pentium II, K6, Pentium 3, Athlon, Duron, Pentium 4, etc.

[iJack]

Well, I have to correct myself. When I originally Identified the two 8086 processors in the two computers I was talking about above, I Identified them off the model of the computer, not by actually finding the chip on the motherboard. This appeared to give me 8086's for both.

I got curious, and opened them both up a few minutes ago, and this is what I got:

1 - Tandy 1000 SL - Has a "P8086-2 (http://www.cpu-world.com/CPUs/8086/Intel-P8086-2.html)" Processor.

2 - Commodore PC 10-III - Has a "SAD8088-1-P (http://www.digchips.com/datasheets/download_datasheet.php?id=851309&part-number=SAB8088-1-P)" (Click HERE (http://www.cpu-world.com/CPUs/8088/Siemens-SAB8088-1-P.html)for other Pic) Processor.

So, it turns out I was wrong. I do NOT have two 8086 computers. I have one 8086 and one 8088.

Yay. That makes me happier. :P



Are you impressed now? Or do I lose that because of only having 1 8086 now? :P



It's just another processor variant.

Basically, it does the same basic thing as, say a Core 2 processor, or an Athlon x2 processor would do nowadays, but FAR slower, and has FAR more limited abilities.

Back in the Early days, they named the processors by numbers, such as 8086, 8088, 80186, 80188, 80286, 80386, and 80486.

Everything from the 186 on above is more commonly referred to without the first two numbers, such as the 186, 286, etc.

After the 486, they started a new naming scheme, for Intel, this went to the Pentium 1, and for AMD, it was the K5.

Then, obviously, it kept going. Pentium II, K6, Pentium 3, Athlon, Duron, Pentium 4, etc.
Ok...i think i got it.

SO my macbook processor(s?) would be?

[Blahages]

Ok...i think i got it.

SO my macbook processor(s?) would be?

I'm not that familiar with MacBooks.

Probably an Intel Core Duo or a Core 2 Duo, depending on the MacBook model.

[Kiros]

Eh, both the 8088 and the 8086 were milestones I suppose. Two 8086's are better than none ;)

There are currently four people viewing this thread =D

[iJack]

No, only 3 for me, and im one of them, lol.


I have an Intel, what one, Apple.com doesnt say, on the outside.

[Blahages]

Eh, both the 8088 and the 8086 were milestones I suppose. Two 8086's are better than none ;)

There are currently four people viewing this thread =D

I still have 1 8086. I have one of each. Not none. :P

No, only 3 for me, and im one of them, lol.


I have an Intel, what one, Apple.com doesnt say, on the outside.

It may say in the "About this Mac" thingy or whatever.

[Falk 'Ace' Flyer]

Bill, I'm ridiculously jealous of your school work.