Confused

[Muffins]

I know this sounds like the usuall am I straight or gay/bi and the usuall answer is "Well your just a horny teen ect.."

The thing is im christian my family is too ive been brought up this way yet lately ive noticed ive been dreaming about touching another boys penis and even oral sex and masterbation with another guy, dont get me wrong im not gay infact I dont like gays, No offence to gays/lesbo's, and its not because im a Christian I just never realy liked the thought untill now I just keep thinking about masterbation with another guy even though I love girls more though I just think I want to try it but i dont see it happening because
Ive read other topics saying dont do it, it will ruin the realtionship and thats something I dont want to happen, and pretty much all of my friends are Christians as well, and I dont see myself doing it with anyone I know now, and if my parents found out I was even masterbating by myelf I think they'd be upset :(

I realy dont understand why christians frown on masterbation, its probable because they think it involves porn and stuff all the time.....:confused:

But then i read stuff like this:

"It is my opinion that masturbation is not much of an issues with God. It’s a normal part of adolescence, which involves no one else. It does not cause disease, it does not produce babies, and Jesus did not mention it in the Bible. I’m not telling you to masturbate, and I hope you won’t feel the need for it. The best thing I can do is suggest that you talk to God personally about this matter and decide what He wants you to do."

So theyre not saying yes or no.... But they didnt say dont

Then theres more stuff [Sorry this is realy long lol]

"Openly discussing masturbation and sexual fantasy with your teens will help them avoid the explosive damage sexual misbehavior can bring." His prime concern is that the youth, during masturbation, will use either pornographic pictures or fantasies involving a specific person. Their brain will train itself to link the sexual stimulation with the fantasy that they use. This can cause a need for pornography to be carried over into their married life. However, if they direct a fantasy towards their future spouse, "...then there is nothing morally wrong with it." For the teen, "The spiritual issue is the fantasy accompanying the activity, not the activity itself." He suggests that the parent: Inform their child that sexual fantasies are a normal part of puberty.
Teach that for a teen to Involve a specific person in their sexual fantasies before becoming engaged "will devalue that person."
Warn them about the dangers of using pornography or mental images of specific persons to stimulate their sexual excitement.
Teach them that, while masturbating, they should fantasize about making love with their future spouse.
Explain that they should ask God for grace, if needed, to overcome feelings of guilt.
Neither condone nor condemn masturbation.
Review their own experiences during their teen years.

I wish my parents were like that to teach me about this crap but they havnt [Yet] and i dont seem them doing it anytime soon :(

I wish they were more open about this topic, it seems christians are rather silent when it comes to this..

When i grow up and get married and become a father i will teach my kids this so they dont have to go through what im going through- uncertainty, guilt ect....

Sorry once again for the LOONNG post, i think i mightve even answerd my own question, but i still want peoples opinions, sorry if some of this offends anyone, i didnt mean to :whoops:

[Mzor203]

It's good that you'll do a good job with your kids, it will definitely have them growing up healthily and more comfortable with these things.

Now, you were right when you said you would get people telling you you are just a horny teen, because at this point it's true. It's perfectly normal to dream about that stuff, think about it, etc. at this age. It's too bad you can't openly discuss it with your parents, but if they have those view it's going to be hard.

Just remember that you can talk about it with us here on VT.

-Rex

[Muffins]

Thanks Rex :) I just realy dont want my future kids to go through the same stuff im going through with all the confusion and everything surrounding it especially if your christian, even if your not christian it certainly helps if your parents support you then you dont feel guilty like your doing something wrong ect...

Yea I knew I was goint to get the "Horny Teen" response :P

Yeah thats why I joined VT in the first place, so I could talk to others about this. :)

[Requin]

Couldn't of said it better myself!
That was the whole idea of VT. Anyway, it sounds like your having a tough time with your parents. I think everyone are age thinks about it, i do aswell. I was thinking about it this morning in fact. I've always said that being christian during puberty is one of the hardest things to do, and i pity you for being religious.

I don't mean it maliciously, just that if you weren't religious it makes life much more free and open. Yes i agree with you that it helps to have the support of your parents and yes i know people will tell me that religion helps you through life and it's good to have someone to look up to, and i agree, sort off. I would like to beleive in religion but i can't.

Anyway i think you knew what we were going to say and you have pretty much answered your own question, and frankly, i agree with you :-)

[Muffins]

Couldn't of said it better myself!
That was the whole idea of VT. Anyway, it sounds like your having a tough time with your parents. I think everyone are age thinks about it, i do aswell. I was thinking about it this morning in fact. I've always said that being christian during puberty is one of the hardest things to do, and i pity you for being religious.

I don't mean it maliciously, just that if you weren't religious it makes life much more free and open. Yes i agree with you that it helps to have the support of your parents and yes i know people will tell me that religion helps you through life and it's good to have someone to look up to, and i agree, sort off. I would like to beleive in religion but i can't.

Anyway i think you knew what we were going to say and you have pretty much answered your own question, and frankly, i agree with you :-)

Yes well i wasnt planning on anwsering my own question half way through my post :D

I dont need pity...just encouragement I guess ;) After all is that not what pretty much every teen, even person needs in life? ;)

Yea its pretty hard at times :(

Yea pretty much all the other topics have the same anwser I even thought awhile before i posted this thinking "Whats the point? im going to get the same awnser as anyone else" Which in a way i did, I guess I wanted opinions since I knew everyone would auto maticaly say "Horny Teen" :P

[Requin]

Well that's alright then. I hope your situation gets better soon. :-)
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