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///James///
October 27th, 2005, 03:38 PM
Well I was bored and I though up this. What you do is you say something, that you want to say and like if people want to follow it up they can, if they want to get something off their chest, they do so too.

Someone begin?

redcar
October 27th, 2005, 06:10 PM
dam my kinder bueno packet was hard to open!!! but on a plus note is was delicious!!!:D

Hi i am jon
October 27th, 2005, 06:30 PM
I almost hate the earth, but I still think that humanity deserves to exist.

i think the exact oppisite?....earth is awesome, the nature all that......humanity kills it.......if we didn't exist i think earth would be a better place....

nwshc
October 27th, 2005, 07:00 PM
omg, who the hell cares. The earth is a giant rock. Without us, thats all it would be. Now it is a beautiful place with giant skyscrapers and shit.

Elokyn
October 27th, 2005, 07:11 PM
:roll: I was just sayin what I thought I needed to get off my chest, don't argue about it :roll:

I do believe that random debate was the point of this topic..so..yeah, he kinda has the right to.

dam my kinder bueno packet was hard to open!!! but on a plus note is was delicious!!!

omfg that was hilarious lmao

Elokyn
October 27th, 2005, 07:35 PM
That's kinda how people here debate lol brush it off :)

ScotsGirl
October 27th, 2005, 07:43 PM
LMAO! :D omg for some strange reason i thought that someone had come up with a clever but wonderfully weird title for a debate on breast implants hahaha! :D ..you know the whole "off your chest" and...oh umm :? ...no? ...ok ill stop talking now :shock: ...hahaha! :D

ANYway... hmm.. :oops: yes im stupid :P ...if not strangely imaginative :?

:P hehe

xxx

Elokyn
October 27th, 2005, 07:53 PM
hahahaha lynne you crack me up

Skhorpion
October 27th, 2005, 08:30 PM
well today i had chicken for lunch and some got stuck in my back teeth

botehred me all day

Hi i am jon
October 27th, 2005, 08:30 PM
lmao! ok we can debate about breasts implants, i think girls should only get them if the person they are with actually loves them and likes large breasts, not just to get looks and all that.... I SAY NAY TO GETTING EXTREME STUFF DONE TO CHANGE YOUR LOOKS

Ravenous
October 28th, 2005, 06:05 AM
Nooo to breast implants, they are totally uneeded. Plastic surgery should be used for rebuilding damaged bodys only.

kolte
October 28th, 2005, 09:43 AM
well since I'm kinda......you know.....stright as a circle, women can do what the hell they want to their body. But if I'm cought lookin afterwords, they cant slap me. n.n

redcar
October 28th, 2005, 10:01 AM
lmao! ok we can debate about breasts implants, i think girls should only get them if the person they are with actually loves them and likes large breasts, not just to get looks and all that.... I SAY NAY TO GETTING EXTREME STUFF DONE TO CHANGE YOUR LOOKS

i feel that if someone wants to get surgery and afterwards it makes them feel good about themselves than i think its great. i know its not for everyone but if it can make one person feel happy about themselves than i am all for it.


well since I'm kinda......you know.....stright as a circle

lmao!!!! i luv it!! you know i am going to have to steel that of you......*writes it down*

kolte
October 28th, 2005, 10:04 AM
lol, i consider that an old one but its great fun when making fun of friends.

"yeah, your about as stright as richard simmons"

"I've seen circles strighter then you bud"

"Dude I believe you, your stright, like a ciricle, or right angle. lol"

Yeah, if you still make fun of people by calling them gay, they will never suspect you lol.

///James///
October 28th, 2005, 10:04 AM
Why the fuck do they still have to teach us irish!!!!!

redcar
October 28th, 2005, 10:46 AM
"I've seen circles strighter then you bud"
.

omg yet another one i am going to ahve to steel......*writes it down*

and you r so rite they will never suspect mwah hahaahahaha......

at the moment i am likeing your as bent as an 's' hook. but "I've seen circles strighter then you bud" thats my new one!!

Ravenous
October 28th, 2005, 10:52 AM
My favourite: "Your about as straight as a roundabout!" Used that one quiet a few times before its killer :D

///James///
October 28th, 2005, 11:02 AM
OMG TIM YOU KNOW ME SO WELL!

Hi i am jon
October 28th, 2005, 11:36 AM
i like saying your straight as a wet noodle.....

nwshc
October 28th, 2005, 01:27 PM
:roll: I was just sayin what I thought I needed to get off my chest, don't argue about it :roll:
This is a debate isnt it?

///James///
October 29th, 2005, 06:27 AM
The point is, that you say something that you may not want a big song and dance about, say something like:

Why do i still learn Irish
^thats mine

its just vent your view, and if anyone agrees or would like to add a comment to wat u said you do that.

kolte
October 29th, 2005, 10:21 AM
Don't you think its so strange the difference of the european and asian writing. language. I think its cool. The chineese, japaneese, korean, and all the south east asian coutries have some the the greatest cultures. I hope the china can one day become a super power. It has the potential. And since its now democratic they have the peoples vote on things. they just need massive reconstruction.

redcar
October 29th, 2005, 10:39 AM
but are china democratic par se? like the ruling party is the communists and there are shocking stories that come out of the country about how things go on, but i totally agree china are becoming increasingly powerful and they are going to be the next big superpower, someone to finally rival america.

redcar
October 29th, 2005, 11:08 AM
absolutly nothing

nwshc
October 29th, 2005, 11:11 AM
but are china democratic par se? like the ruling party is the communists and there are shocking stories that come out of the country about how things go on, but i totally agree china are becoming increasingly powerful and they are going to be the next big superpower, someone to finally rival america.
Ah i can see it now
The 2nd Cold War

kolte
October 29th, 2005, 12:01 PM
china is a democrocy you ignorant people. they have presidents and representivs now. stop living in the past, they are no longer a treat to us. the only way they would be is becasue of peoples fear of the past china. Because they are too cought up in how horrible it used to be that they refuse to see that it is not bad anymore.

nwshc
October 29th, 2005, 12:14 PM
china is a democrocy you ignorant people. they have presidents and representivs now. stop living in the past, they are no longer a treat to us. the only way they would be is becasue of peoples fear of the past china. Because they are too cought up in how horrible it used to be that they refuse to see that it is not bad anymore.
Who said they were a threat?

redcar
October 29th, 2005, 12:16 PM
i think i may have implied that

listen2thebeastieboys
October 31st, 2005, 07:29 PM
i beleive, and this has nothing to do with anyone elses posts, but in the NHL, todd bertuzzi should not be playing
and better yet he should be in jail for what he did.

(for those of you who are unaware of what madam bertuzzi did, he, in the middle of one game, blindsided and sucker punched the young avalanche player Steve Moore. this ended moore's carrer and almost his life. Mr. Moore can barely walk and will never play hockey again, while todd bertuzzi gets his ass paid 5.2 MILLION DOLLARS... )

seem fair?

not to me

kolte
November 1st, 2005, 11:27 AM
yeah, that sounds like grounds form exile

Whisper
November 1st, 2005, 11:52 AM
china is a democrocy you ignorant people. they have presidents and representivs now. stop living in the past, they are no longer a treat to us. the only way they would be is becasue of peoples fear of the past china. Because they are too cought up in how horrible it used to be that they refuse to see that it is not bad anymore.

China....a democracy? bahahahahahahahah

no....no they aren't
there communists

kolte
November 1st, 2005, 11:56 AM
ugh, you people and your closed minds. The leading party in the political structure is communisitc. however, the leaders are electied by parliment etc etc. for example the following information below explains:

chief of state: President HU Jintao (since 15 March 2003) and Vice President ZENG Qinghong (since 15 March 2003)
head of government: Premier WEN Jiabao (since 16 March 2003); Vice Premiers HUANG Ju (since 17 March 2003), WU Yi (17 March 2003), ZENG Peiyan (since 17 March 2003), and HUI Liangyu (since 17 March 2003)
cabinet: State Council appointed by the National People's Congress (NPC)
elections: president and vice president elected by the National People's Congress for five-year terms; elections last held 15-17 March 2003 (next to be held mid-March 2008); premier nominated by the president, confirmed by the National People's Congress
election results: HU Jintao elected president by the Tenth National People's Congress with a total of 2,937 votes (four delegates voted against him, four abstained, and 38 did not vote); ZENG Qinghong elected vice president by the Tenth National People's Congress with a total of 2,578 votes (177 delegates voted against him, 190 abstained, and 38 did not vote); two seats were vacant



unicameral National People's Congress or Quanguo Renmin Daibiao Dahui (2,985 seats; members elected by municipal, regional, and provincial people's congresses to serve five-year terms)
elections: last held December 2002-February 2003 (next to be held late 2007-February 2008)
election results: percent of vote - NA%; seats - NA




Supreme People's Court (judges appointed by the National People's Congress); Local Peoples Courts (comprise higher, intermediate and local courts); Special Peoples Courts (primarily military, maritime, and railway transport courts)



Chinese Communist Party or CCP [HU Jintao, General Secretary of the Central Committee]; eight registered small parties

Whisper
November 1st, 2005, 12:35 PM
Erugh, you and you're incompitence
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Beijing Developing Electronic Chains to Enslave Its People

For nearly a thousand years the Great Wall of China protected the Asian empire from foreign invasion. Today, red China is installing a great "firewall," hoping to stem the tide of foreign ideas from invading the authoritarian one-party state.

Despite claims to be an open society, China has an extraordinary fear of free information. For example, when President George Bush recently visited the Shanghai economic conference inside China, the communist government removed blocks on the Web sites of several U.S. news services.

Immediately after President Bush left Shanghai, the paranoid red forces quickly re-imposed the Internet blocks. Today, the ordinary Chinese citizen cannot indulge in reading the perverted online views of CNN or the Washington Post.

Chinese authorities have shut down more than 17,000 Internet cafes since April 2001. The Internet cafes were guilty of allowing Chinese citizens to surf without special blocking software required by the central government. In addition, the Chinese authorities ordered another 28,000 cafes to install special monitoring software, allowing the local police to watch the Internet browsing of customers.

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The Case of Huang Qi

Chinese information oppression often goes much farther than simply shutting down illegal Internet web browsing. In June 2000, Huang Qi, a computer engineer from Chengdu, was arrested for putting up an online missing persons search website.

Huang ran afoul of the communist authorities when he assisted in the return of seven girls abducted from their homes by a slave trading gang. Unfortunately for Huang, the gangsters had connections of their own inside the hierarchy of the local red government.

The red police confiscated Huang's computer equipment and shut down his web site. Communist authorities later charged that Huang was guilty of "organizing national separatism, destroying national unity" and "subverting the socialist system."

"The following night, June 6, I was taken to a detention center, where the authorities assigned a fellow inmate to monitor me," Huang wrote in a letter recently smuggled out of jail.

"The inmate ordered me to sleep next to the urinal. My head rested only 60 centimeters from the genitals of inmates as they relieved themselves, drenching me in their urine," wrote Huang.

"Every night, I was put in heavy shackles and tasted urine as my head rested near the urinal. ... If I put myself in danger to rescue seven missing girls from the countryside, help over 2,000 families reunite, sell all my belongings to start a missing persons search service to help people and make it possible for thousands of people to air their grievances, please tell me how this can be considered as attempting to subvert the government?"

In August 2001, Huang was tried in a closed court. No verdict or sentence has ever been announced. A government official told Huang's wife, "After your husband is sentenced, don't expect your son to go to school or to have any future."

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Corporate Partners in Oppression

The central communist government has willing partners in stomping on people like Huang. Western companies, lured by promises of big contracts, have been eager to obtain contracts in red China in order to help build its great "firewall."

U.S.-based Cisco Systems and Canadian-based Nortel Networks are working closely with the People's Armed Police developing oppressive and intrusive computer systems to monitor, track and prosecute illegal Internet web browsers.

Nortel has contracts with Datang Telecom, a Chinese firm that works closely with the Chinese Ministry of State Security. Nortel has provided its "Personal Internet" suite to the MSS, allowing authorities to monitor and track nearly half of China's individual Internet users.

Nortel is currently working with the communist authorities in Shanghai to build a "Shasta 5000" firewall. The firewall allows the red thought police to monitor and track subscribers who access Internet web sites judged inappropriate by the communist government.

Western companies are working closely with the red police to track every citizen in China, developing everything from smart-card IDs to phone-tapping equipment. For example, Nortel is currently working with Qinghua University on speech-recognition technology for automated tapping of telephone conversations.

Ironically, Nortel was a strong and early supporter of the U.S. FBI plans to develop a national telephone surveillance system. The Chinese division of Nortel manufactured the first electronic systems accepted by the FBI as the new standard for American phone taps in Guangdong.

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Chinese Police Armed With U.S. Equipment

The Chinese People's Armed Police (PAP) is also well equipped with U.S.-made equipment to track, identify and quickly jail any dissidents. Sun Microsystems has a contract with the Public Security Bureau to make use of instant computer identification of fingerprints.

In 1995, the Clinton administration allowed the PAP to purchase $100 million in Motorola secure radios and cell phones. Documents obtained from the Ron Brown Commerce Department show that in June 1995, then-President Bill Clinton personally OK'd the export of Motorola secure radios and cell phones directly to the PAP with the stroke of his pen on a waiver.

Clearly, the Chinese security police might have some conversations to hide on its Motorola secure radio system. The PAP is the uniformed strong arm of the communist party. It is PAP's job to enforce the laws of the party, including the execution of dissidents, beating of the Falun Gong and the forced abortion of pregnant women who do not have a license to be pregnant.

In 1998, Harry Wu confirmed that PAP officers are currently equipped with Motorola radios. Wu was arrested and eventually deported from China. Wu reported that he was quickly identified by Chinese security police officers after they checked his records on an American-made computer system.

According to Wu, the Chinese police officials were in real-time contact with the main office's computers in Beijing, using an American-made satellite uplink. After his arrest, the officers escorted him to prison, taking their orders over American-made secure radios from Motorola.

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Human Rights Are an Obstacle

Despite the U.S. assistance, China continues to maintain a false image of a friendly power. In May, during an official visit with bipartisan members of the U.S. Congress, China's Vice President, Hu Jintao, talked about the importance of open discussions between China and the United States. Hu is the leading candidate to replace current Chinese President Jiang Zemin.

Hu then refused to accept four letters from members of Congress delivered by House Democratic Whip Nancy Pelosi. The letters raised human rights issues and urged China to release political prisoners.

"I had been hopeful that we could at least talk about human rights issues in China and Tibet," stated Rep. Pelosi.

"But Mr. Hu's refusal demonstrates how serious the problem remains. China's human rights abuses continue to be an obstacle in developing the full potential of relations between our two countries."

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New Wave of Persecution in China Results in Hundreds of Arrests and Two Deaths

On October 18, 2005, a renowned Beijing human rights lawyer, Gao Zhisheng said in an open letter to Hu Jingtao, the Chinese leader, and Wen Jiabao, China’s Premier, “The atrocity of a new wave of continuous, systematic, large scale, and organized persecution of our countrymen believing in Falun Gong is an ongoing fact.”

The new wave of persecution by the Chinese Communist Party has already resulted in illegal arrests of nearly 100 Falun Gong practitioners in Heilongjiang Province and at least two deaths. A few days before October 1, at least 80 Falun Gong practitioners were captured in Beijing. In Beijing’s Haidian District alone, 28 Falun Gong practitioners were seized the night of September 28. Since September, large scale arrests have also been occurring in Guangdong and Hebei Province. Several hundred people have been illegally arrested.

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Nearly 100 kidnapped and 2 killed in Heilongjiang

According to Minghui Net (minghui.ca), nearly 100 Falun Gong practitioners have been kidnapped in the cities of Harbin, Daqing, and Hegang in Heilongjiang Province since September. Among them, Lv Lihua from Harbin and Xu Zhicheng from Hegang have already been tortured to death.

Lv Lihua was born in August 1962. On September 23, 2005, she was kidnapped from her home at around 6 a.m. and sent to the Harbin Second Detention Center. On October 2, she was taken to a hospital in the evening at approximately 7:20 p.m. and was already dead. People who saw Lv said that her face, chest, back, as well as many other places on her body were bruised from beating.

Xu Zhicheng, around 40 years old, worked in the general affairs office in the Nanshan Mine in Hegang City, Helongjiang Province. Police abducted Xu from his home on September 26, 2005. On October 2, he died in the Hegang Second Detention Center. Xu’s face and many parts of his body were covered with blood and injuries. His nose and mouth had blood.

http://www.theepochtimes.com/news_images/2005-10-30-graph.png
A chart showing the number of confirmed deaths of Falun Gong practitioners in mainland China.

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Over 20 people go on a hunger strike and their lives are in danger

In this new wave of persecution, over 50 Falun Gong practitioners in Hegang City were abducted. At present, over 20 practitioners being held in the Second Detention Center are on a hunger strike. Several people in the First Detention Center, including Yang Yongying, are on the verge of death.

The first and second detention centers in Hegang had provincial order to use force on the practitioners and without having to worry about being liable for the practitioners’ death. Local police said that they cannot release practitioners even if that meant they have to die. Authorities are trying to secretly send practitioners to forced labor camps.

In addition, on September 23, 2005, a large number of police in Daqing City seized over 30 Falun Gong practitioners. Women were all send to the Daqing Detention Center and most of them were tortured. Tang Zengye was forced to sit on a metal chair with both hands and feet handcuffed. Tang was brutally force-fed and vomited blood.

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At least 80 people arrested in Beijing

In Beijing, in late September, at least 80 Falun Gong practitioners were captured, including Bai Shaohua, Liu Haihong, and Liu Yujian. In the Haidian District alone, 28 practitioners were arrested on the night of September 28. Several practitioners’ coworkers, relatives, and friends were subpoenaed and harassed.

In order to capture Liu Yujian, police found his wife (a non-practitioner) at work and intimidated her into bringing them into her house. The police confiscated their property and kidnapped Liu after he came home from work.

Ji Lei, Bai Shaohua’s wife, a general manager at the Beijing Langwey Visual-Telecommunication Electronic Technology Company, was abducted by authorities. The next day, the police arrived at her workplace and conducted a large-scale confiscation. At least five computers were confiscated and sent to the municipal public security bureau for “inspection.” The police opened the company’s safe, searched all 30 of the company’s employees and took them to the Haidian District Wanshousi Police Department.

Liu Yongwang was abducted a second time and has been on hunger strike up until today [the time this article was written]. The police brutally force-fed him every day. Now Liu needs assistance walking as he suffers from excruciating pain in both of his legs.

Aηdy
November 1st, 2005, 12:44 PM
MARMITE... you either love it or you hate it... i personally love it!!!

redcar
November 1st, 2005, 02:55 PM
MARMITE... you either love it or you hate it... i personally love it!!!

omg omg yuck yuck yuck yuck!!!!!!!

kolte
November 1st, 2005, 03:28 PM
cody, please don't call me that, I dislike it when you do that. the government structure is not a real communistic structure. its run by a group of elected officals. those officals elect a leader. Its nothing like the old communistic nations. the people have much more say in the way things run. now I'm part of the Free Tibet campaign but I still think china's democratic movments are very good. its not right to judge their country because of the past. I don't judge america becasue I didn't think their past is right. We live in the now, and china happens to be becoming a democrocy, how about be happy for them.

Whisper
November 1st, 2005, 03:36 PM
You called me close minded
don't dish it if u can't take it
honestly

and china blows there the modern communists
I studied China for a year straight I know all about its past, I didn't post anything about that.
All those articles aren't from china's "past" there recent within a few months sum are within a few days.

Elokyn
November 1st, 2005, 03:57 PM
what's marmite?

redcar
November 1st, 2005, 04:00 PM
it realy amazes me how their is a website for everything and i cant believe they had one aobut marmite, anyway this is wat it is and it is yuck yuck yuck

http://www.spurgeon.org/~phil/images/marmite1.gif

Marmite is dark brown-colored savory spread made from the yeast that is a by-product of the brewing industry. It has a very strong, slightly salty flavor. It is definitely a love-it-or-hate-it type of food.
It comes in small (2-5 inches high) bulb-shaped glass jars with a distinctive yellow lid.

Elokyn
November 1st, 2005, 04:45 PM
0_o ewwy I dont think I'd like that lol

RowanVer.3.0
November 1st, 2005, 04:56 PM
omg, who the hell cares. The earth is a giant rock. Without us, thats all it would be. Now it is a beautiful place with giant skyscrapers and shit.

That's where you and I differ. Nature>civilization here :)

Whisper
November 1st, 2005, 05:13 PM
i agree with rowan
We evolved here just like everything else
and we depend on the ecosystem just as much as everything else.

kolte
November 1st, 2005, 05:20 PM
i agree with rowan
We evolved here just like everything else
and we depend on the ecosystem just as much as everything else.

here here

nwshc
November 1st, 2005, 05:33 PM
omg :puke:
Nature sucks. But my dads gas guzzleing 4 wheel drive truck doesnt!

Whisper
November 1st, 2005, 06:19 PM
omg :puke:
Nature sucks. But my dads gas guzzleing 4 wheel drive truck doesnt!

http://www.anyan.com.ar/setiembre2001/images/humor.1.jpg

<-Dying_to_Live->
November 1st, 2005, 06:42 PM
hahah cody stop trying to be enviornmentally friendly and anti truck. we all know you think cars are shit and want this bad boy

http://begnalmotorsofcatskill.com/DodgeRam35006L.jpg
;)

redcar
November 1st, 2005, 06:49 PM
oh now thats is sexy, i see it this way these nice environmentally unfriendly 4x4's or watever, they are much safer than regular cars, and personally i wud prefer to be a bit safer in an already dangerous world.

Whisper
November 1st, 2005, 07:05 PM
hahah cody stop trying to be enviornmentally friendly and anti truck. we all know you think cars are shit and want this bad boy

http://begnalmotorsofcatskill.com/DodgeRam35006L.jpg
;)

You fuckin rights I do!
If you lived in Northern Canada you'd agree!!!

Thats a sexy bitch right there mhmm

Canada is bigger then america
its population is under that of california
We have plenty of wildlife
and we work hard to protect it

Nature kicks ass
and anybody who says other wise is an idiot

nwshc
November 1st, 2005, 07:21 PM
omg :puke:
Nature sucks. But my dads gas guzzleing 4 wheel drive truck doesnt!

http://www.anyan.com.ar/setiembre2001/images/humor.1.jpg
:pukes again:
Cats suck cock!
:P

ps. Matt, dodge also sucks cock.
go chevy

<-Dying_to_Live->
November 1st, 2005, 07:36 PM
omg chevy? please. cody are you gunna pwn him or should i? :)

nwshc
November 1st, 2005, 07:55 PM
please, no one in their right mind can pwn the 1337man right here