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Zephyr
July 23rd, 2008, 10:21 PM
WASHINGTON - About 2 million Americans get a raise Thursday as the federal minimum wage rises 70 cents. The bad news: Higher gas and food prices are swallowing it up, and some small businesses will pass the cost of the wage hike to consumers.

The increase, from $5.85 to $6.55 per hour, is the second of three annual increases required by a 2007 law. Next year's boost will bring the federal minimum to $7.25 an hour.

Workers like Walter Jasper, who earns minimum wage at a car wash in Nashville, Tenn., are happy to take the raise, but will still struggle with the higher gas and food prices

"It will help out a little," said Jasper, who with his fiancee support a family of seven, and who earns the minimum plus commissions when customers order premium car-wash services.

The bus fare he pays each day to get to work already went up to $4.80 this spring from $4. "I'd like to be on a job where I can at least get a car," he said.

Last week, the Labor Department reported the fastest inflation since 1991 — 5 percent for June compared with a year earlier. Energy costs soared nearly 25 percent. The price of food rose more than 5 percent.


So the minimum wage hike is "a drop in the bucket compared to the increases in costs, declining labor market, and declining household wealth that consumers have experienced in the past year," Lehman Brothers economist Zach Pandl said.

The new minimum is less than the inflation-adjusted 1997 level of $7.02, and far below the inflation-adjusted level of $10.06 from 40 years ago, according to a Labor Department inflation calculator.

Twenty-three states and the District of Columbia have laws making the minimum wage higher than the new federal requirement, a group covering 60 percent of U.S. workers, according to the Economic Policy Institute, a think tank.

"You get desperate, because you can't really pay for everything," said Gladys Lopez, 51, a garment worker from Adjuntas, Puerto Rico, who makes military uniforms and has earned the federal minimum for 18 years.

She says she would need to make at least $50 more a week to pay all her bills and take care of her 84-year-old mother, whom she supports.

When the minimum rises again next year, catching up with more states, more than 5 million workers will get a raise, said Lisa Lynch, dean of the Heller School for Social Policy and Management at Brandeis University.

Some small businesses are already making plans to raise prices to offset the higher wages they have to pay their workers.

David Heath, owner of Tiki Tan in College Station, Texas, said the increase will force him to raise prices for his monthly tanning services by about 12 percent. Tiki Tan had been paying its employees $6 per hour.

"There just isn't any room for profit, and so this is why prices will have to go up," he said, citing the wage increase and higher fuel costs. "I have to recoup those costs."

The increase in the minimum wage could push food prices even higher by rising the pay for agricultural workers, said Brian Bethune, chief U.S. economist at consulting firm Global Insight.

But he said he did not expect the change to have a major impact on the economy because recent increases in productivity, which enables companies to produce more with fewer workers, are keeping labor costs in check.

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*laughs hysterically*
I make $8.15, 20 cents above my state's minimum wage,
And it's hardly enough to cover my basic needs.
That raise is going straight back into the economy,
Just like the stimulus checks.

0=
July 23rd, 2008, 10:23 PM
What a joke. It's still $8 here...

serial-thrilla
July 23rd, 2008, 10:51 PM
minimum wage where i live is $8.75

Gumleaf
July 23rd, 2008, 11:50 PM
my girlfriend is on our minimum wage. she is on i think (don't quote me) $8.03 an hour.

Atonement
July 23rd, 2008, 11:52 PM
In iowa the minimum is 7.25 i think.

Mr. Smithers
July 24th, 2008, 01:12 AM
Yes 8.50 cents. I'm lucky to live in one of the highest minimum wage states.

Atonement
July 24th, 2008, 01:18 AM
Well for the people on the west coast, of course its higher because you also have a higher cost of living. For Iowa, our wage is fine because we like, are cheap lol.

Antares
July 24th, 2008, 02:08 AM
Well it took long enough.
We really need it. However, I wish they would have mandated that if a company makes a certain amount of money per year that they would not raise prices by x amount.

ShatteredWings
July 25th, 2008, 11:16 AM
wait, that's a raise....


hell, you can get a job at mcdonalds for(and they advertise this on the side of the building) about 8bucks an hour...


weird... i'm going to refrain from an idea as this isn't a debate forum

Maverick
July 25th, 2008, 03:09 PM
There shouldn't be a federal minimum wage. Most people aren't making minimum wage or close to for the most part already except teens. All this does is hurt teens who want a little part time for spending money or whatever.

We really need it. However, I wish they would have mandated that if a company makes a certain amount of money per year that they would not raise prices by x amount.Price caps are never good. At least with higher prices those that can afford them can buy the item but with price caps it leads to shortages.

Antares
July 25th, 2008, 03:51 PM
There shouldn't be a federal minimum wage. Most people aren't making minimum wage or close to for the most part already except teens. All this does is hurt teens who want a little part time for spending money or whatever.

Price caps are never good. At least with higher prices those that can afford them can buy the item but with price caps it leads to shortages.

What do you mean? I think there should be minimum wage so they don't pay people $2 an hour and get away with it. That is not even a livable amount.
Also, I was talking about companies. I was saying that larger corporations would get not be able to raise item prices but smaller ones can. This would be because the larger ones have more money to throw around instead of just getting over on the consumer to make more money. I don't think of it as a price cap because the smaller business can raise them too if that makes sense.

serial-thrilla
July 25th, 2008, 05:43 PM
I really believe the federal minimum is far too low. We need to think about single mothers supporting children. Even with wellfare, 8 bucks an hour is not going to cut it.

MrPinnick17
July 25th, 2008, 06:00 PM
I get like $10.35 but I've been working at my job since I was 11.

Maverick
July 25th, 2008, 07:02 PM
What do you mean? I think there should be minimum wage so they don't pay people $2 an hour and get away with it. That is not even a livable amount.
Not everyone who has a job lives on their own or has bills to pay. The arguments made for minimum wage assumes everyone who has a job lives on their own when in reality that isn't always the case. 15 or 16 year olds don't need a livable amount wage because they still live at home.

Also, I was talking about companies. I was saying that larger corporations would get not be able to raise item prices but smaller ones can. This would be because the larger ones have more money to throw around instead of just getting over on the consumer to make more money. I don't think of it as a price cap because the smaller business can raise them too if that makes sense.
Why shouldn't they be able to raise prices? I thought this was a free country with free markets where you have the ability to sell what you want for how much you want. Corporations are no different. It is a price cap because you are putting a limit on how high prices can go.

Antares
July 25th, 2008, 07:10 PM
Not everyone who has a job lives on their own or has bills to pay. The arguments made for minimum wage assumes everyone who has a job lives on their own when in reality that isn't always the case. 15 or 16 year olds don't need a livable amount wage because they still live at home.


Why shouldn't they be able to raise prices? I thought this was a free country with free markets where you have the ability to sell what you want for how much you want. Corporations are no different. It is a price cap because you are putting a limit on how high prices can go.

Well then how do we distinguish the epople that are 20, has children, living on their own, working at minimum wage from the people that are 15 or 16 working to help their parents pay for bills because even their parents don't make enough money. In reality, I think we seriously need minimum wage.

Also, I really don't think this is free. The government controls virtually everything it seems. They can control that stuff if they really wanted to I think. They have in the past right?

Maverick
July 25th, 2008, 07:28 PM
Well then how do we distinguish the epople that are 20, has children, living on their own, working at minimum wage from the people that are 15 or 16 working to help their parents pay for bills because even their parents don't make enough money. In reality, I think we seriously need minimum wage.

Also, I really don't think this is free. The government controls virtually everything it seems. They can control that stuff if they really wanted to I think. They have in the past right?
You can easily distinguish a high school student and such. If companies would exploit workers with low wages then most would just pay the minimum wage and nothing higher as of right now. But in reality that isn't happening so there isn't any evidence to show that a lot of companies would start paying starvation wages because they are paying above the minimum amount anyway.

You're right in saying that our economy and market aren't truly free and the government interferes a lot which is why we are experiencing the economic trouble we are facing today. Every issue so many Americans turn to government to fix problems that were created by government in the first place, and end up creating new problems along the way.

Wages aren't high enough because of inflation. Who causes inflation? The government. But of course they'd rather not mention that. The politicians don't want you to know that because they can't spend at a reasonable amount and balance the budget they finance the debt through printing money which causes prices to rise and the value of our wages to decline.

Junky
July 26th, 2008, 07:32 PM
Who causes inflation? The government. But of course they'd rather not mention that. The politicians don't want you to know that because they can't spend at a reasonable amount and balance the budget they finance the debt through printing money which causes prices to rise and the value of our wages to decline.

The good old " I can fix it,(in a low whisper) I just need to raise taxes.":cool: