Why?

[Maverick]

Why are we still in Iraq?

[Rutherford The Brave]

Because we are after supremacy thats why. We aren't out there to "root out terrorism" George bush just wants us to be the reigning power.

[Texmex21]

Because we still have a dumbass for a president

[Patchy]

Because we need oil.

Because if we pull out (both USA and UK) we will look like idiots by leaving the country in a mess, even though its never going to be a stable country.

[Underground_Network]

Because Iraq has weapons of tax deduction. [not!] 0.o

I don't know why we're still in Iraq, we need to pull out slowly, and the pulling out should've started a couple years ago, around now we should have close to zero troops in Iraq, but Bush is president, and what's the US without a war?

[Techno Monster]

Because we still have a dumbass for a president

^ I agree, I think when November comes, and we get a new president, we will be outta there.

[Underground_Network]

^^ No, no way. If McCain is elected, we will stay in Iraq and end up in several other countries. If Obama is elected we will probably eventually be out of Iraq, but still, we can't just rush out of there. We actually did help a country in need, and rushing out of there will cause Iraq to fall apart. Unless we elect Bag of Leaves as president, we'll be in Iraq for at least another couple years [if not more]. Our current president is not the only problem.

[Techno Monster]

If we elect Bag of Leaves as president, I will set him on fire.
I think the whole country is screwed.

[Underground_Network]

We should vote for Caitlin then.

[Oblivion]

Because our president made a stupid decision and was to stubborn to back out of it once everyone realized it was an idiotic, oil hungry move?

[Random_oso06]

Because we need oil.

Because if we pull out (both USA and UK) we will look like idiots by leaving the country in a mess, even though its never going to be a stable country.

ya bush wants oil he owns a part of the oil company so if iraq surrenders then they dig the oil bush knows that he won't be president forever if they dig the oil then he will be rich

[Techno Monster]

We should vote for Caitlin then.

Haha, yep :P

[[[chickaroo92]]]

Hey,
we have our own oil. The only reason stupid ass reason why we won't use our OWN is because people who are in congress... (sorry to point fingers...but democrats) want us to continue using oil from the middle east. Keep in mind, President Bush doesn't make all the decisions. We should stay in Iraq. The minute we pull out, will be the minute they come here to attack us.

[0=]

Fuck if I know; to make more enemies and further degrade national security? To increase the federal debt? To lower the world view of the United States further? All of the above? Beats the shit out of me, I'm just sick of it.

[[[chickaroo92]]]

Fuck if I know; to make more enemies and further degrade national security? To increase the federal debt? To lower the world view of the United States further? All of the above? Beats the shit out of me, I'm just sick of it.
No.
People need to realize that we're doing this for our own sakes, and being an Alli (sp?) to Israel.
Give one very good reason why we should pull out.

[Zephyr]

Oil.
Rather than tapping our resources in Alaska,
And moving towards other sources of energy,
We have to spend over $1 Billion a day in Iraq.
Ya.

[[[chickaroo92]]]

Hey,
we have our own oil. The only reason stupid ass reason why we won't use our OWN is because people who are in congress... (sorry to point fingers...but democrats) want us to continue using oil from the middle east. Keep in mind, President Bush doesn't make all the decisions. We should stay in Iraq. The minute we pull out, will be the minute they come here to attack us.


Need I say more?

[Antares]

Simple.
Americans voted for a stupid asshole. Twice.




Crap I really wanted to leave this post but I couldnt resist editing it. I wanted the tone of the post to remain but now its ruined :(

Anyways I think we should probably forget about our oil and save that. Because when their stupid asses run out then we will be the big kids on the block and we wont share. And when we do share we will be filthy rich (period)

Finishing, I think we need to forget about our oil and their oil and turn to ALTERNATIVES! Like within the next year I would love to see goverment giving incentives to SUV owners to convert to hybrids. Then after they are done move on to regular people who have regular cars. Its better than giveing every working citizen in the country 1,000 dollars!

I mean that was stuid because the econmy is still the same. CRAP!

I hate politics because I get soo worked up.

I am going to stop and hopefully this will be my last post in this thread.

[[[chickaroo92]]]

Wow.
President Bush isn't a stupid asshole.
Do I have to remind you once again. He doesn't make these decisions.
Just like having a student council, everyone needs to bring up their ideas, and EVERYONE has to agree. That's how the US congress works. It's really disappointing that most of congress is made up of stupid people, like democrats who think what they're doing is the best thing in the entire world. Ha.

If it's the oil you're so concerned about....big news for you buddy, the President himself wants to use our oil. We have the money for it...but nooo... congress gets in the way and wants us continuing to use the Middle East. Ugh.

You know. People. Like, how about supporting the troops?! They're doing this for us---and Israel. We take them out, then America will be in danger. Israel will be in danger. Don't you see? we are brothers.

What? You would like having a president who cares more about Iraq then America? More about Iraq then Israel? or would you rather have a President who cares more, and is trying to keep peace. This is the only way!

[Antares]

Crap couldn't resist.

President Bush isn't a stupid asshole.
Do I have to remind you once again. He doesn't make these decisions. Bullshit, he should learn how to say no. He sure does use his Executive Orders well. If you think that then we need him to grow some balls and say no. He is THE Commander-in-Chief, Chief Diplomat, Party Leader, etc. He is in charge of the Executive Branch, he SHOULD be making the decisions but you are right he is not making up a majority of these ideas but he should be smart enough to decide what is crap and what is good.

You know. People. Like, how about supporting the troops?! They're doing this for us---and Israel. We take them out, then America will be in danger. Israel will be in danger. Don't you see? we are brothers.Well I do agree with supporting the troops. HOWEVER, I really don't think we should BECUASE THEY SHOULDNT BE OVER THERE! This is a POINTLESS and expensive war! Why are we still over there? Can someone answer that?! I mean at first it was "Weapons of Mass Destruction" *in cooky Bush accent* then it was "Saddam" who is dead might I add. Then it was restoring democracy but HOW THE HELL does restoring democracy mean sending BILLIONS of dollars for schools bridges and other things. We need to be building those damn bridges in the US because I don't know if anyone remembers but we had wall fall down last year. You don't see that in Iraq do you?? Wow I am getting totally off subject...anyways I support the troops but my point is that we shouldnt be in a war because really we have no reason to be there.


What? You would like having a president who cares more about Iraq then America? More about Iraq then Israel? or would you rather have a President who cares more, and is trying to keep peace. This is the only way!Now as for this point I am not really sure if there are people IN Iraq that are trying to take out Isreal because that is something I have never heard of before but that is still not an excuse to be there (if my understanding is correct). Now if you want to fight a war we need to be fighting Iran. I really would poop my pants if we did because I really don't want that but if we really needed a place to spend BILLIONS...actually TRILLIONS of dollars that WE DON"T EVEN HAVE! then we should be in Iran. The only way to keep peace is not by fighting in Iraq.

EDIT: If you have no idea what the hell I said, join the team. lol im tired its 5am and i have no idea what i just said although i think i had some good points :P

[Techno Monster]

^ Ya did.
I think that we can all agree, that when we finally get a new president, it will be interesting to see what he does about the war.... and maybe, he won't be just like Bush.... Maybe...

[CaptainObvious]

As someone who was vigorously oppose to the war from its very inception, I think you're all being needlessly simplistic.

The reason the US is still in Iraq is because leaving has the potential to destabilize the country (and potentially the region) more than it already is. Personally, I think there should be significant priority placed upon training the Iraqi army and police so that the US and other armies can withdraw and some troops can be shifted to Afghanistan (which really needs them). But the bottom line is that just removing all the troops has the potential for significant negative effects.

[[[chickaroo92]]]

As someone who was vigorously oppose to the war from its very inception, I think you're all being needlessly simplistic.

The reason the US is still in Iraq is because leaving has the potential to destabilize the country (and potentially the region) more than it already is. Personally, I think there should be significant priority placed upon training the Iraqi army and police so that the US and other armies can withdraw and some troops can be shifted to Afghanistan (which really needs them). But the bottom line is that just removing all the troops has the potential for significant negative effects.
Thank-you.
Like I said before...we pull out...we die. Simple as that.

Just one more thing, isn't Canada fighting in Afghanistan?

[theOperaGhost]

I think a quick withdrawal, like Obama is TALKING about will be a mistake. It will have more negative affects really. We fucked up by going to Iraq anyway, but now that we are there, don't you think we should fix the huge ass fucking mess we made over there. Hell, maybe not, let's not be civil about it and just leave all of the people there to fix our mess themselves... Now I don't know why we are defending the Iraqi people, when there is plenty of shit going on in America that could be dealt with. Why do we always think about other countries before our own? It's all fucking international politics. We should have the amount of troops we have in Afganistan in Iraq and the amount of troops currently in Iraq in Afganistan. We should be searching more for that fucker Osama bin Laden.

I've kind of contradicted myself a bit, but not really. I don't support the war, but I don't support a withdrawal because it will just fuck everything up more than it already is. It's like leaving a dumbass job that should have never been started, un-finished.

[Dolphus Raymond]

Thank-you.
Like I said before...we pull out...we die. Simple as that.

Just one more thing, isn't Canada fighting in Afghanistan?

We don't "die." I do agree with David. We made a commitment to Iraq and need to follow-through. The al-Maliki statement is going to complicate this mess, because internal inter-religious politics are starting to enter the equation. But the difference between leaving Iraq now and later is pretty much the difference between going further to secure the country, and not. It is not a matter of life and death for the U.S. Iraq, maybe.

You know. People. Like, how about supporting the troops?! They're doing this for us---and Israel. We take them out, then America will be in danger. Israel will be in danger. Don't you see? we are brothers.

What does troop support have to do with this?

Iraq instability doesn't really present anywhere near the imminent threat that other countries do. Are we going to hear this argument for Iran, too? Iran is more of a threat to Israel and the U.S. than Iraq has ever been. The main risk is that we will create a "blank-slate" instable state that could be overrun by a U.S./Israel-hostile regime. There are other states that are blatantly hostile, though. We can't invade them all. "Iraq is an imminent threat to Israel" is an absurd ex post facto rationalization.

And as much as I think Israel is a beacon of hope in the Middle East, we are not in a suicide pact with Israel.

[Antares]

Well I agree with what Jared said. I do not support the war but deep down inside I do know that they will have issues if we pull out. Although that surge has worked but I am strongly opposed to our troops teaching those Iraqis OUR tactics. That is sooo stupid. Just teach them the basics and let them go on a ride with you. THats all they need. Like I said before, forget about Iraq and we need to get our poop in a line with Iran.

[[[chickaroo92]]]

Well I agree with what Jared said. I do not support the war but deep down inside I do know that they will have issues if we pull out. Although that surge has worked but I am strongly opposed to our troops teaching those Iraqis OUR tactics. That is sooo stupid. Just teach them the basics and let them go on a ride with you. THats all they need. Like I said before, forget about Iraq and we need to get our poop in a line with Iran.
Well, I can guarantee you, like before President Bush leaves office, he will go to Iran, Iraq, and Afghanistan and put a STOP to those ________ terrorists. Right now, he believes that it's Iraq that needs some help, to stop. There's a obviously a reason why President Bush was chosen, so there's obviously a reason why we should continue fighting in Iraq, and not pull out our troops. If God wanted the troops pulled out by now, then so be it.

[0=]

Well, I can guarantee you, like before President Bush leaves office, he will go to Iran, Iraq, and Afghanistan and put a STOP to those ________ terrorists. Right now, he believes that it's Iraq that needs some help, to stop. There's a obviously a reason why President Bush was chosen, so there's obviously a reason why we should continue fighting in Iraq, and not pull out our troops. If God wanted the troops pulled out by now, then so be it.

Please state these obvious reasons without using "it was God's will" in your argument. I'd love to hear such obvious, common sense, logical reasoning.

[[[chickaroo92]]]

Please state these obvious reasons without using "it was God's will" in your argument. I'd love to hear such obvious, common sense, logical reasoning.
You can't tell someone how to state their opinion.
I believe that everything has a reason.
so therefore, the war has a reason, otherwise there wouldn't be one.
Hey, maybe if the terrorists wouldn't start up, then the troops would be able to go home...ever thought of that???

[Hyper]

You can't tell someone how to state their opinion.
I believe that everything has a reason.
so therefore, the war has a reason, otherwise there wouldn't be one.
Hey, maybe if the terrorists wouldn't start up, then the troops would be able to go home...ever thought of that???

Terrorism wouldn't exist if it wasn't mutual

[serial-thrilla]

Well, I can guarantee you, like before President Bush leaves office, he will go to Iran, Iraq, and Afghanistan and put a STOP to those ________ terrorists. Right now, he believes that it's Iraq that needs some help, to stop. There's a obviously a reason why President Bush was chosen, so there's obviously a reason why we should continue fighting in Iraq, and not pull out our troops. If God wanted the troops pulled out by now, then so be it. "God" has nothing to do with the troops being in iraq or them ever leaving. "God" didnt start this war, and "God" wont end it either. If everyone just said "we'll leave iraq when god wants us to leave" the troops would be there forever. Someone will have to take initiative when they get elected, to gtfo of iraq. Americans are dieing everyday.

[0=]

You can't tell someone how to state their opinion.
I believe that everything has a reason.
so therefore, the war has a reason, otherwise there wouldn't be one.
Hey, maybe if the terrorists wouldn't start up, then the troops would be able to go home...ever thought of that???

I'm just asking you to explain these reasons for the sake of debate, not telling you how to state your opinion. If you don't even attempt a to present a logical argument you're basically conceding your stand in the debate and no longer need to post in this thread.

[Whisper]

Why are we still in Iraq?

Because you made a mess so clean it up or be doomed to return....again

[[[chickaroo92]]]

I'm just asking you to explain these reasons for the sake of debate, not telling you how to state your opinion. If you don't even attempt a to present a logical argument you're basically conceding your stand in the debate and no longer need to post in this thread.
Hmm...

you're probably right. Maybe I shouldn't stay in this thread, and keep my opinions to myself.... like some people on here.

I am so sick of reading all these comments saying, get them out of Iraq, get them out of Iraq. President Bush is an asshole. etc.

Innocent people are being killed by those Jews.... blah blah blah.

IT MAKES ME SICK. My brothers and sisters (the Israelis) are fighting in defense. Do you think any of the troops love this war? No. But should they protect themselves? Yes.

Let me ask you something, if someone were to start stabbing you, would you rather get killed, or fight back? It's ALL in defense.

Sure, perhaps President Bush made mistakes before, but this war wasn't. Hes trying to protect America, as well as Israel.

Enough said. I'm leaving this thread, because in reality, its just pointless, and bashing the troops. Thank-you.

[Zan0ra]

The planet loves wars. It brings much more money to the banks.....Sadly millions die. I predict another civil war upcoming.