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Whisper
November 26th, 2004, 10:48 PM
What do you guys think should schools teach kids about, how to have safe sex or Abstinence????

Personaly I think Safe sex.......Bush is an idiot!!! His moto is basicaly sex dosn't exist, if I ever see him I'm gonna ask how thats workin for him :twisted:
The majority of kids lose there virginity at 15 thats not going to change, it shouldn't have to theres nuthing wrong with a kid havin sex with someone they love there own age it's gonna happen weither parents want it or not so why not teach them to be safe?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!? My sex ed. was in grade 5 it didn't even last two freakin days if it wasn't for my sister and my curiosity I would know fuck all bout safe sex and sex in general.

http://cnn.netscape.cnn.com/news/story.jsp?idq=/ff/story/0001%2F20041126%2F1603822833.htm&sc=1151&photoid=20041126TXLJ102

newshound18
November 27th, 2004, 12:22 AM
This was just on tv here over in the UK on Thursday night. I agree with many - I think Abstinence and Safe sex should be taught, in other words give the students the choice to what they want.

boognish
November 27th, 2004, 03:00 AM
abstinince is just not fucking, well what happnens when your in love and you think your ready? well wait what did we learn in sex ed...dont have sex. but we must! ok, lets just think really hard no baby, it might work. 9 months later, its your brains fault it wasnt strong enough to stop the sperm

Whisper
November 27th, 2004, 06:38 AM
It's human instinct to have sex okay its natural nuthin wrong with that espically if its with sumone you love, one class at school isn't going to change that, it shouldn't have to there's nuthing wrong with sex....It pisses me off that parents belive if they ignore it or say its bad it will go away. Teach us how to be safe, or the number of teen pregnaceys will only increse.

Whisper
November 27th, 2004, 02:44 PM
If your talking about STD's and you were to learn about safe sex not only would you know how to protect yourself but you would know that testing, condoms, and pills are free at clinics, at least in Canada and I've seen comercials and shows on discovery saying the same for america.

Whisper
November 27th, 2004, 06:48 PM
Yes and there's pills that can be takin within like 72hr that will prevent the girl from becoming pregnant.

Whisper
November 27th, 2004, 07:03 PM
Ya I've been lookin into those there basically a pregnancy pill for guys, they do sumthing to temporaraly disable the sperm. This drug is still in the experamental stages and to my knolege (correct me if I'm wrong) has not been aproved by the FDA.

Here are sum cool sites for info:

http://www.coolnurse.com/index.htm

http://www.itsyoursexlife.com/

Whisper
November 27th, 2004, 08:42 PM
Your right kev but with the condom alone nothin else only 3 in 100 girls will get pregnant add the pregnancy pill and that takes it to 1/100 ontop of that you add the the emeregncy pill that if sumthing happens she can take and it would be less than 1. It won't be long and the birth control pills for guys will be out and that will drop it even more. Do you have any idea how high the propability you will be hurt or killed is every time you get into a vehicle, nothing is and or ever will be 100%.

Have you looked at the stat's in texas I watched a show and there either taught abstinence or nothing at all and there is more teen pregnancys and cases of STD's in Texas then in any other state, knolege kev thats the best protection. You can't just supress this. The instinct to reproduce is as strong as the instinct for self preservation. Now weither you are like me and belive in evolution or you belive in adam and eve the instinct is still there and its there for a reason, you can't fight it, you shouldn't be forced into beliving you have to it's part of who you are, as long as it's between two people that care for each other theres nothing wrong with it. As long as your carefull it's reasonably safe, allot safer then getting in a car or hundreds of other things that you've been doing everyday since you were born.

maximan
November 28th, 2004, 01:57 AM
It bothers me how sex ed videos teach kids that sex is a completely hostile enviornment, and that if you so much as have sex ONCE before marraige, you'll catch some sort of disease. I've broken from the brainwash of our school system to realize if you're safe about it, sex is fine. Screw the system :twisted:

boognish
November 28th, 2004, 02:44 AM
litterally, or figurativly?

advent_child
January 2nd, 2005, 08:53 PM
Wait, this may sound stupid, but, why not have the parents teach the kids about sex?

maximan
January 2nd, 2005, 10:39 PM
Wait, this may sound stupid, but, why not have the parents teach the kids about sex?

It's less akward with teachers.

Whisper
January 6th, 2005, 07:58 AM
Abstinence, what a load of crap!

http://www.teenwire.com/index.asp?taStrona=http://www.teenwire.com/ask/articles/as_20001122p119.asp

Abstinence-Only Sex Ed Gets an 'F'

December 7, 2004
by Susan Yudt


What would you do if your math teacher told you that 2 + 2 = 5? Or your geography teacher said that the earth was flat?
Now imagine that your teacher told you that HIV gets transmitted through tears and sweat. Or that touching another person's genitals can result in pregnancy.

As it turns out, many teens are learning just that.

On December 1, Rep. Henry Waxman (D-CA) released a report (PDF) about the state of abstinence-only sex education. He found that more than two-thirds of government-funded abstinence-only programs contain misleading or inaccurate information about sex.

Only comprehensive, medically accurate sex education has been proven to prevent pregnancy and infections.


What Is Abstinence-Only?

Abstinence-only programs promote abstinence from all sexual activity until marriage. It's true that abstinence is the only 100 percent effective way to prevent unintended pregnancy and sexually transmitted infections. But many studies have shown that teaching abstinence alone is not effective. Only comprehensive, medically accurate sex education — which includes information on both abstinence and birth control — has been proven to prevent pregnancy and infections.

Many teens in abstinence-only programs are already sexually active and need information on safer sex to protect themselves. The abstinence-until-marriage platform excludes sexually active straight teens and all LGBT people, no matter how old they are. (Gay marriage is illegal in 49 states.) It implies that gay people should either marry straight people or go without sex for the rest of their lives. According to abstinence-only programs, even unmarried heterosexual adults should not be having sex!

In 2005, the federal government will dedicate $170 million in funding to abstinence-only programs, while comprehensive, medically accurate sex education will receive no dedicated funding. :shock:

Fiction and Fact

Here are some other incorrect statements from abstinence-only programs that were reviewed in Waxman's report:

Misconception: "A pregnancy occurs one out of every seven times that couples use condoms."
The Truth: Condoms are up to 98 percent effective at preventing pregnancy when used correctly.

Misconception: "'In heterosexual sex, condoms fail to prevent HIV approximately 31 percent of the time.'"
The Truth: Condoms offer excellent protection against HIV. Most studies show that for couples in which only one partner has HIV, the correct and consistent use of condoms is more than 99 percent effective.

Misconception: "'Women gauge their happiness and judge their success on their relationships. Men's happiness and success hinge on their accomplishments.'"
The Truth: We are all very different people, with different opinions and values. Gender stereotypes are misleading and insulting.

Misconception: "5 percent to 10 percent of women who have legal abortions will become sterile."
The Truth: Abortion is a very safe procedure and side effects, such as sterility, are very rare and only occur when there are complications — which are much more likely when abortion is illegal and unsafe.

People who oppose comprehensive sex ed incorrectly say that teaching teens about preventing pregnancy and infections encourages them to have sex, but this has been scientifically disproven. In fact, a recent study by Columbia University researchers found that while teens who took virginity-until-marriage pledges were abstinent longer, they were less likely to use condoms when they stopped abstaining — which most are likely to do before marriage.

Fighting Back

If you're not happy with how sex ed is taught at your school, you can take steps to create change. Talk with your parents or other trusted adults, and let them know what you're learning and why you think improvements are needed. You could also get together with other students and present your case to the school board. Students have had great success with this in the past (see "Protecting Texas Teens," below). On a larger scale, you could write to your local, state, and federal legislators and make your voice heard. You may not to be old enough to vote yet, but the future is already in your hands!

coryjordanlover
January 6th, 2005, 11:39 PM
In my opinion to stay safe you should either not do it (which doesnt really help bcuz ppl r gonna do it) or use a condom with spermicide, do the pull out method with a gurl who has a norplant thingy and the guy using the "guy pill".

Anonymous
January 6th, 2005, 11:42 PM
Teenagers are never going to follow complete abstinance. Some may, but never all. Safe sex would be much more affective.

-Ekia

maximan
January 14th, 2005, 12:18 AM
Recently in my "Life Management" class there was a question that asked "Why is abstinence the best choice for teens?". I answered "because deceptive books such as this teach kids that condoms rarely work, when in reality they're 99% safe", or something along those lines. I'm yet to see how my teacher reacts :D

Ravenous
January 30th, 2005, 06:56 AM
They do both at our school, i think thats a good idea

mrbean
February 5th, 2005, 03:13 PM
Yeah, they have safe sex in highschool, but before that, they have a "sexed Class" where you talk about puberty so that you won't be scared when the things happen, it wasn't very good, thats why I'm here.

AussieNicholas
October 3rd, 2016, 04:27 PM
Humans are sexual beings, and they'll be sexually active as adults if not teenagers. Instead of teaching them to reject a completely natural desire, teach them how to be safe while satisfying that desire. You don't teach kids to be responsible by hiding risks from them, but by showing them how to properly manage those risks.

sqishy
October 3rd, 2016, 04:31 PM
This is from 12 years ago!!

phuckphace
October 3rd, 2016, 04:40 PM
lol at Bush sticking his nose in OP's vagina (the good old days)

Elysium
October 3rd, 2016, 07:13 PM
Humans are sexual beings, and they'll be sexually active as adults if not teenagers. Instead of teaching them to reject a completely natural desire, teach them how to be safe while satisfying that desire. You don't teach kids to be responsible by hiding risks from them, but by showing them how to properly manage those risks.
Please don't post in threads that have been inactive for two months or more. And eleven years is definitely more. :locked: