MILiTARY

[josh,]

wich military force is better

.....i think im going to be a marine......

[redcar]

well i am going to say the irish navy is the best military force!!!!! yes we have one boat!!!!! we are certainly a force to be reckoned with.......

[redcar]

omg my appoligies we have 8 boats!!! we are certainly a force to be reckoned with, so if u r gonna invade ireland by land get ready to be attacked by boats with a name like LE Aoife or LE Ciara, how frighting!!!!

[redcar]

http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y160/redcar987/plane.jpg

sorry me again just had to show u this, u fancy americans whisk your leader in a beautiful boeing 747 with all mod cons, and u even have two of them just in case. however we the irish whisk our leader around in this yoke!! shocking

[Φρανκομβριτ]

http://www.airliners.net/photos/small/0/6/2/937260.jpg
UK AIR FORCE!!!!

I am going to have to join them to get my flying license

[TheWizard]

What about the Army?? I feel cheated. :(

[redcar]

well well well u americans may think u r fancy wit your "stealth bombers" but beware ireland has this.......*drumroll*

http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y160/redcar987/pic.jpg

now you r scared!

[kolte]

the think the united states navy is, not only the biggest baddest and most advanced in the world, the best of all armys.

[redcar]

hahahahahaha the american navy is the biggest and baddest!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! this is the pride of the irish navy.........................i intorduce LE Ciara!!!

http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y160/redcar987/ciara.jpg

now u r really scared!!

[kolte]

this is just one of thousands lol, bring it on!!!

http://www.ussjpkennedyjr.org/jpkfr5.jpg

and these are some of my favorite united states military madness

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/2/24/Carrier.arp.500pix.jpg/250px-Carrier.arp.500pix.jpg
http://www.chinfo.navy.mil/navpalib/aircraft/f14/f14refuel02.jpg
http://www.historyguy.com/Iraq%20images/marines_in_oilfield.jpg

Now your really scared lol !!!!!!!!!!!!!

[redcar]

oh you think thats scares us cause wat we would do is tie a couple of bombs to this and drop them on your fancy boat!!

http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y160/redcar987/cessna.jpg

hahahahahha u can never beat the irish military we are undeafeatable!!!!!!!!!!!!

[kolte]

and we would launch a cuple h bombs to a b 52 bomber and completley destroy your country!!!!!! cuz were meaneys lol

http://www.aerialpostcards.com/b52/b_52.jpg

[redcar]

and do tell how would you get by this........

http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y160/redcar987/plane123.jpg

[redcar]

yes but do americans have the secret weapon and that is.................leprachauns!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! tohught not!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! we win we win we win!!!!!!!!!!!

[Whisper]

http://www.bestjokeshop.com/picture-gallery/random_pictures/images/canadian_air_force.jpg
http://www.sharpjokes.com/images_store/canadiannavy.jpg

[redcar]

lmfao!!!!!!!! i luv that!!!!!!!!!

[<-Dying_to_Live->]

Ground
http://img434.imageshack.us/img434/3896/flyingfiringm18lq.jpg

Air
http://img434.imageshack.us/img434/3721/f16fires3qa.jpg

Sea
http://img434.imageshack.us/img434/4743/navy9gf.jpg

The NAVY is the best. Nuclear submarines with nuclear tomahawks protect the oceans, aircraft carriers provide first strike air capabilities, and ships can launch cruise missiles. they are the best of both worlds. the navy has the power of the air, the ground (with the seals), and the water

[redcar]

ah well now whos showing off military strength, i wud show u irelands full military including a massive stockpile of nucleur warheads however i dont want to put u all to shame!

[redcar]

well when'ere we irish go to sea in one of our top of the range ships we always sing an ancient sea chanty which i shall share wit you.......

In the navy
Yes, you can sail the seven seas
In the navy
Yes, you can put your mind at ease
In the navy
Come on now, people, make a stand
In the navy, in the navy
Can't you see we need a hand
In the navy
Come on, protect the mother land
In the navy
Come on and join your fellow man
In the navy
Come on people, and make a stand
In the navy, in the navy, in the navy

[<-Dying_to_Live->]

http://img419.imageshack.us/img419/5255/81mmmortarfires1si.jpg

everyone post military pictures from your respective country. go usa

[Whisper]

http://www.airforce.forces.gc.ca/equip/grfx/equip_gallery/hercules_cc130/wallpaper/cc130flr.jpg
http://www.airforce.forces.gc.ca/equip/grfx/equip_gallery/cormorant_ch149/wallpaper/ISD01-2033.jpg
http://www.airforce.forces.gc.ca/equip/grfx/equip_gallery/hornet_cf18/wallpaper/CF-18CloseFormation.jpg
http://www.airforce.forces.gc.ca/equip/grfx/equip_gallery/seaking_ch142b/wallpaper/HSC93-0505-02.jpg

[<-Dying_to_Live->]

http://img442.imageshack.us/img442/4927/tanksmall5el.jpg

hey world, get outta our way!

[Whisper]

Canada baby!
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v516/Iluminati/lf2003-08341.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v516/Iluminati/lc2005-077-0491.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v516/Iluminati/LC2005-076-209.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v516/Iluminati/7688495.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v516/Iluminati/88174663.jpg

[<-Dying_to_Live->]

cody i bet like 20 people just realized for the first time that canada had an armed forces ;)

[redcar]

well as ireland is a neutral country we have no need for a big defense force however our military helps the un in peackeeping missions all over the world and of that i am proud to say!!!!

http://www.military.ie/images/105mm-gun-team-in-action.jpg

[kolte]

yay, go people that kill poeple yay

[Whisper]

cody i bet like 20 people just realized for the first time that canada had an armed forces ;)

Yea I just found out yesterday!!! :D Who da thunk it!

yaaay go us!

I think it's getting bigger to...

"In February, the 2005 federal budget allocated $12.8 billion in new funding to Defence over a five year period" {thats allot for us were not a world power}

You should be proud redcar!
I'm proud of our peace keeping too
I belive in the United Nations and what it stands for and i'm proud that Canada is helping to maintain peace

http://www.airforce.forces.ca/1wing/photo_gallery/wallpaper/iv-2002-0231.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v516/Iluminati/HS2002-10260-03.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v516/Iluminati/HS025113d15-RHIB.jpg

http://www.navy.forces.gc.ca/mspa_images/gallery/gallery_images/large/HS025129d62-ships-company.jpg
That^ is when Her Excellency the Governor General Adrienne Clarkson visiting HMCS MONTRÉAL on christmas day in and around the Arabian Sea as part of Operation Apollo, Canada's military commitment to the international campaign against terrorism.

[redcar]

ok this sounds sad but i really like the way canada is written on those helicopters and anywhere else, it just likes nice

[serial-thrilla]

yay canadas shit is so much better then the us!!!

[redcar]

its good like dont get me wrong but not as good as the irish!!!

[kolte]

lol

[<-Dying_to_Live->]

canadas 1o times better than ireland cuz theyre like 500 times the size :P

http://img385.imageshack.us/img385/2301/launch6pi.jpg

someones about to be pwned ;) <<< my caption

[redcar]

canadas 1o times better than ireland cuz theyre like 500 times the size :P



welll we all know thats not true cause size doesnt matter, and u should know that!!! :D

http://www.62infantry.com/images/photos/84mm.jpg

good auld fashioned anti tank training!!!

[Whisper]

Theres 32million people in Canada and theres bout 4million in Ireland {not including Northern Ireland}
Thats like comparing America to Canada theres like 300million people in america
Add to that the fact that Canada is the third biggest country on the planet just below Russia and antarctica....Thats allot of area to cover for so few soldiers....Thank god were well liked

United States:
Military branches:
Army, Navy and Marine Corps, Air Force, and Coast Guard (Coast Guard administered in peacetime by the Department of Homeland Security, but in wartime reports to the Department of the Navy)
Military manpower - fit for military service:
males age 18-49: 54,609,050
females age 18-49: 54,696,706 (2005 est.)
18 years of age (2004)

UNITED STATES MILITARY
http://www.military.cz/usa/navy/uss/carriers/stennis/jcs_ind.jpg
http://www.ultimatesavers.com/ScreenShots/2000/2754s.gif
http://www.chinadaily.com.cn/english/doc/2005-01/07/xin_320102070809500104173.jpg
http://www.bxa.doc.gov/Images/DeepwaterUSCG.jpg

Canada:
Military branches:
Canadian Armed Forces: Land Forces Command, Maritime Command, Air Command, Canada Command (homeland security) to be operational in early 2006 (2005)
Military manpower - fit for military service:
males age 16-49: 6,740,490 (2005 est.)
16 years of age for voluntary military service; women comprise some 11% of Canada's armed forces (2001)

CANADIAN MILLITARY
http://gwardnet.d2g.com/mac/maccdale/ssk73.jpg
http://images.encarta.msn.com/xrefmedia/sharemed/targets/images/pho/t304/T304379A.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v516/Iluminati/lf2003-0361.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v516/Iluminati/GrenfellCorm.jpg

United Kingdom:
Military branches: Army, Royal Navy (includes Royal Marines), Royal Air Force
Military manpower - fit for military service:
males age 16-49: 12,046,268 (2005 est.)
16 years of age for voluntary military service (January 2004)

UK MILITARY:
http://www.royalnavy.mod.uk/rn/data/gallery/medium/1010658862m.jpg
http://www.raf.mod.uk/equipment/images/ukadge3.jpg
http://www.army-technology.com/projects/viking/images/Viking_03.jpg
http://www.fortwilliamcoastguard.co.uk/700%20Pictures/Tug%202.jpg

Ireland:
Military branches:
Army (includes Naval Service and Air Corps)
Military manpower - fit for military service:
males age 17-49: 814,768 (2005 est.)
17 years of age for voluntary military service; enlistees under the age of 17 can be recruited for specialist positions (2001)

IRISH MILLITARY
http://www.salthillairshow.com/navy/images/le_emer_01.jpg
http://www.aircraftinaction.co.uk/Irishpc98.jpg
http://www.commondreams.org/headlines04/images/0625-01.jpg
http://www.coastguardsofyesteryear.org/images/Irl-CG_sm.jpg



It's takin me like 2.5hrs to make this post cause I had to find all the pictures if you have better pics of your countrys military post them!
I just couldnt find'em
Google images.....gets sum really weird stuff

[serial-thrilla]

thanks for the pictures cody :)

[nwshc]

Dam, age 16 to volunteer.

[redcar]

well i take my hat off to you, they are some good pics u found there!!! :D but now i am embarrased look at your fancy armies and look at ours, thank god everyone likes the irish cause if like the americans wanted a european holiday destination all they have to do is send a couple of thoses fancy ships over and poof!, ireland disapears!!

[<-Dying_to_Live->]

nice post, its nice to see how u spend your time each day :D

now im going to say that my favorite picture of all is this one...
http://img410.imageshack.us/img410/6811/hijackthis3wh.jpg

this was one of the first bombs dropped into afghanistan 1 month after sept 11. go usa

[redcar]

is that how you spell it i always thought it was hi-jack

[serial-thrilla]

nice post, its nice to see how u spend your time each day :D

now im going to say that my favorite picture of all is this one...
http://img410.imageshack.us/img410/6811/hijackthis3wh.jpg

this was one of the first bombs dropped into afghanistan 1 month after sept 11. go usa hmm how many young children did that kill?

[<-Dying_to_Live->]

i dont know if it killed any. why dont you research it for us? just kidding, you'll never be able to find out because you dont know what bomb that is or where it fell. nice try

[redcar]

[quote="*}
It's takin me like 2.5hrs to make this post cause I had to find all the pictures if you have better pics of your countrys military post them!
I just couldnt find'em
Google images.....gets sum really weird stuff[/quote]

oh yea better pics........thats as good as it gets!!!!

[nwshc]

nice post, its nice to see how u spend your time each day :D

now im going to say that my favorite picture of all is this one...
http://img410.imageshack.us/img410/6811/hijackthis3wh.jpg

this was one of the first bombs dropped into afghanistan 1 month after sept 11. go usa hmm how many young children did that kill?
hm... I wonder how many evil terrorist it killed.

[serial-thrilla]

nice post, its nice to see how u spend your time each day :D

now im going to say that my favorite picture of all is this one...
http://img410.imageshack.us/img410/6811/hijackthis3wh.jpg

this was one of the first bombs dropped into afghanistan 1 month after sept 11. go usa hmm how many young children did that kill?
hm... I wonder how many evil terrorist it killed.im sure it killed more innocent people then evil terrorists

[<-Dying_to_Live->]

show me. write down their names so i have something to mourn

[redcar]

show me. write down their names so i have something to mourn

thats a bit cold

[kolte]

http://www.brandonblog.homestead.com/files/blog-ei10203191455.jpg
http://www.socom.mil/Gallery/Air_Force/CV-22Photo.jpg
http://www.grunt.com/images-bs/navy2.jpg
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/9/91/F-15_vertical_deploy.jpg/200px-F-15_vertical_deploy.jpg
http://news.bbc.co.uk/olmedia/1815000/images/_1816706_bbc300bombing.jpg
http://www.militaryfactory.com/aircraft/imgs/b2.jpg
http://www.military.com/Data/EQG/SSN-mainpic.jpg

http://www.naval-technology.com/projects/burke/images/burke1B.jpg
http://www.naval-technology.com/projects/ticonderoga/images/ticond1.jpg
http://www.naval-technology.com/projects/aoe6/images/aoe8.jpg
http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/facility/images/earle_newpierp.jpg

You wanna mess with the us, bring it right the hell on lol

[<-Dying_to_Live->]

well said hehehe

[Whisper]

http://www.airforce.forces.gc.ca/equip/grfx/equip_gallery/historic_gallery/wallpaper/seakng7a.jpg
http://www.airforce.forces.gc.ca/equip/grfx/equip_gallery/airbus/wallpaper/over_water.jpg
http://www.airforce.forces.gc.ca/equip/grfx/equip_gallery/historic_gallery/wallpaper/3hercs.jpg
http://www.778banshee.com/images/aircraft/CC144.jpg
http://www.airforce.forces.gc.ca/equip/grfx/equip_gallery/hornet_cf18/wallpaper/cf-18_combi_arms.jpg
http://www.airforce.forces.gc.ca/equip/grfx/equip_gallery/hornet_cf18/wallpaper/CF-18Flare.jpg
http://www.airforce.forces.gc.ca/equip/grfx/equip_gallery/hawk/wallpaper/NFTCHawk-2.jpg
http://www.airforce.forces.gc.ca/grfx/equip_gallery/aurora/wallpaper/aurora16.jpg
http://www.airforce.forces.gc.ca/equip/grfx/equip_gallery/griffon_ch146/wallpaper/Griffon3.jpg
http://vandenberg.airshowjournal.com/2002/Img_0441_jfr.jpg
http://www.airforce.forces.gc.ca/equip/grfx/equip_gallery/cormorant_ch149/wallpaper/ISD01-2013.jpg
http://www.airforce.forces.gc.ca/equip/grfx/equip_gallery/twin_otter_cc138/wallpaper/TwinOtter_Eureka.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v516/Iluminati/helicoper20delivery.jpg

[josh,]

the strictest military force in the world
is the U.S.A MARINE CORPS


THE FEW THE PROUD

the

MARINES

[<-Dying_to_Live->]

u guys post like 10 pics in a row and then i always just post one lol. but uh... mines bigger and better :D

http://img422.imageshack.us/img422/313/aar7qi.jpg

[kolte]

the new F 20 could take the entire army of canada by its self

[Whisper]

the new F 20 could take the entire army of canada by its self

A) we'd simply stop sending you gas, oil and electricity turning your precious jet into a hunk of metal

B) America wouldn't dare declare war on Canada

C) By shere numbers one jet couldn't take all of canadas Air Force

I'm proud of our military seeing as how our population is so low, we focus our money in other areas schooling, free health care, blah blah blah
and Canada has never had a terrorist attack.

Besides Canada's like dept free....is america?

didn't think so


http://www.airforce.forces.gc.ca/equip/grfx/equip_gallery/historic_gallery/wallpaper/f18bombg.jpg
http://www.airforce.forces.gc.ca/equip/grfx/equip_gallery/hornet_cf18/wallpaper/cf18_afterburner.JPG
http://www.airforce.forces.gc.ca/equip/grfx/equip_gallery/hornet_cf18/wallpaper/cf-18_air2air.jpg
http://www.airforce.forces.gc.ca/equip/grfx/equip_gallery/historic_gallery/wallpaper/4xf18s.jpg
http://www.airforce.forces.gc.ca/equip/grfx/equip_gallery/historic_gallery/wallpaper/12xf18s.jpg
http://www.airforce.forces.gc.ca/equip/grfx/equip_gallery/hornet_cf18/wallpaper/ckc97-7002.jpg

[nwshc]

No matter how strong anyones army is, no one would beable to withstand this:
http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/facility/images/little-boy-pic1.jpg
Little Boy pwns all

[serial-thrilla]

bombs are the pussy way to fight a war

[Whisper]

actually the "tzar" was the biggest nuclear bomb ever made

USSR they liked to think big cause they were really bad at acuracy.

Yield 100 Megatons
Weight approx. 27 tonnes (24.5 to 27.5 tonnes) [Janes Defense Weekly 1992]
Length 8 meters
Diameter (body) 2 meters

The Tzar
http://nuclearweaponarchive.org/Russia/Tsarbmb.jpg


Little Boy weighed about 9,000 lbs. and had an explosive force (yield) equal to about 20,000 tons of TNT

Little Boy
http://www.wpafb.af.mil/museum/arm/arm42.jpg


I agree with matt (serial-thrilla) though.
I don't agreee with nuclear bombs at all
they shouldn't be used under any circumstances

[toogilwell2006]

Just like to point sometihng out and not cause strife and anger...but you do realize that when we dropped the bombs on japan, there were no civilians. The entire population of the Main island of Japan had standing emperial orders to fight to the death, and the Japanese had the sense of honor enough to follow through with it. That includes men women and yes even children.

An invasion of japan was the only way to end the war in the pacific and that would have cost tens even hundreds of thousands of amarican lives. When it comes down to them or us...them always gets the shaft. or the bomb in this case. At that time i am all for the use of the bomb. NOW? Not a chance now that every shit box country has nulear capabilites. i am a firm believer in MAD.

OK back to the topic at hand. i would also like to point out that about half of the airforce if composed of american designed and manufactured a/c. these include (canadian designations) the CP-140, CC-144, CT-155, CT-156 CC-130, CF-18 and maybe the CC-138 (though i am NOT entirely sure who makes the twin otter. It may be british).

Fun story about the CT-156. This plane is actually a raytheon T-6 Texan II, which is a remake of a very famed training aircraft from the '40s. Damn pretty airplane, though since it comes from Raytheon it also comes with an enormous price tag. i know the US air force picked up a few, but they still mainly use the T-37, and the navy didn't even bother. Just stuck with the old T-34Cs. I would love to fly one of the new texans though. beautiful a/c. Well crap sorry for the babbling. i kinda like airplanes a little.

By the way if anyone has any questions about flying, or how to get started give me a shout. (shameles plug follows) I am a commercial pilot and Certified fligt instructor.

Chris

[toogilwell2006]

Crap sorry for the double post...forgot to vote.

FLY NAVY!!

[Whisper]

http://www.airforce.dnd.ca/news/2004/08/grfx/wallpaper/Altair2.jpg

Boooored

[RowanVer.3.0]

show me. write down their names so i have something to mourn

thats a bit cold
Nope, that's just pure ignorant patiortism.

[<-Dying_to_Live->]

I am a commercial pilot and Certified fligt instructor.

Chris

so youre in your late 30s to 40s hell even 50s and ur on a website for teens? fucking perv

[Whisper]

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v516/Iluminati/e3e55d55.jpg

[redcar]

http://www.irishmilitaryonline.com/gallery/navy/orla/orla-onexercise.jpg

[TheWizard]

What about the army. Why isn't it in the poll?

[<-Dying_to_Live->]

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v516/Iluminati/e3e55d55.jpg

awwww theyre hugging :)

[<-Dying_to_Live->]

What about the army. Why isn't it in the poll?

the army is composed of the navy, marines, and airforce

[redcar]

well in fairness now in some places the army is a division of the military like josh was saying.

[Pink-Floyd]

I dont Like Any Of em, I wud hate to go to War

[Whisper]

I like all of them
Canada's military is pathedic......But it could still kick Denmarks ass! Bastards! grrrr!!


http://www.army-technology.com/projects/eryx/images/eryx5.jpg
http://www.combatcamera.forces.gc.ca/common/combatcamera/galleries/reserves_gallery/beach.jpg
http://www.army.dnd.ca/LFAA_HQ/photo_gallery/Royal_Guard/images/GN2002_0054_02.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v516/Iluminati/CanadianSniper.jpg
http://www.combatcamera.forces.gc.ca/common/combatcamera/galleries/reserves_gallery/field.jpg
http://www.combatcamera.forces.gc.ca/common/combatcamera/galleries/reserves_gallery/ships.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v516/Iluminati/bad.jpg
http://www.army.dnd.ca/LFAA_HQ/photo_gallery/Royal_Guard/images/HS20020214-12.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v516/Iluminati/ISD2003-6035.jpg

[redcar]

lmao denmark!!!
well with our beautiful military here i say we cud trash andorra......if they were having a bad day, and were looking the other way.

http://www.military.ie/images/navy_homepic.jpg

[Whisper]

lmao denmark!!!
well with our beautiful military here i say we cud trash andorra......if they were having a bad day, and were looking the other way.

http://www.military.ie/images/navy_homepic.jpg

No the danish are trying to take one of our islands n declare it theres if that happens we'll lose a very important channel that both america and russia are now saying is international yet it runs straight threw canada
ontop of that there now saying that allot of the islands in Nunavut and the North West Territorys dosent belong to canada!!! :twisted: :twisted:

Thats like the UK claiming all of ireland
Or Mexico claiming texas
or China claiming Hawaii

I mean god!....BASTARDS!!!

"To look at it right now, no sane person would think much of Hans Island, a glorified pile of rocks in the Canadian arctic. It’s a tiny, blasted and forsaken island a mere 1.3 km in area, desperately far from any civilization.

But, the important thing for Canadians to remember is that Hans Island is our tiny, blasted and forsaken island. And it must stay that way, if we expect any of our international claims of sovereignty over the, now only allegedly, Canadian north to be recognized.

Because, the truth is, Hans Island is far more than just a tiny, blasted and forsaken pile of rocks. It is a symbol of our fight to have our own territory internationally recognized; and, equally importantly, it will become the key to a future global shipping route.

The dispute over Hans Island has been ongoing since 1973, with both the Canadian and Danish governments claiming it. The island itself is located in an area, the Nares Strait, that is recognized as under Canadian sovereignty. However, and this is a big however, due to a mapping anomaly, the island falls in a gray zone; a literal no man’s land.

The treaty of 1973 listed 127 points between the Davis Strait and the end of Robeson Channel, and drawing geodesic lines between these points, used them to form the border. However, because no line was drawn from point 122 to point 123, a no man’s land with a distance of 875 meters was formed: Hans Island falls smack dab in the middle.

On an idealistic level, Hans Island represents Canada’s ability to successfully defend, both politically and militarily, its own claimed territory. Without this ability, its sovereign territory is not worthy of the name. The Danish had landed on the island time and time again; since 1988, they have planted and replaced the Danish flag four times on its rocky surface. Once, they cheekily left a bottle of brandy.

Sadly, because Canada does not possess (surprisingly enough) all weather, ice-strengthened warships, it has no means of easily getting to the island without relying on commercial vessels. This would seem to diminish Canada’s claim to the island; if it can’t reach it, how can it defend it, and if it can’t defend it, how can the island be part of Canadian soil?

Furthermore, Canada’s claim over the north is challenged by both the United States and Russia. While Russia claims sovereignty over parts of the Canadian continental arctic shelf, the United States maintains that the Northwest Passage, which cuts through the middle of Canada’s northern arctic territories, is international waters. In 1985, in fact, the U.S. deliberately sailed a ship through these waters without alerting Canada to emphasize its argument. The battle over Hans Island therefore becomes a tangible legal precedent as well as a symbolic battle for Canada’s claim to its northern lands. If Canada loses the battle over Hans Island, it may appear weak, and other nations may try to press their advantage and claim vulnerable Canadian territory.

Yet this is more than just an international phallic measuring contest. Though it has absolutely no resources, being a large, cold and infertile pile of rocks, Hans Island is a critically and tangibly important economic resource. Whoever controls Hans Island controls the strait. Since the U.N. Convention on the Law of the Sea came into activity in late 1994, there have been strict official rulings on control of sea zones.

From the shoreline, a stretch of twenty-two kilometers (twelve nautical miles) is territorial waters, which qualifies firmly as sovereign territory of the controlling state. Beyond that, another twenty-two kilometers (so forty four kilometers in total) where a country could enforce laws regarding activities that involves maritime transport, such as smuggling and illegal immigration. Finally, the treaty established a 370 kilometer exclusive economize zone, for the purposes of resource exploitation (most importantly, fish and oil).

Why is this important?

Because between the polar icecaps melting at a prodigious rate and the possibility of significant oil deposits in the seabed, at a time when oil deposits are running out, Hans Island becomes a critical tool for the economic exploitation of the arctic. With the polar icecaps melting, the North West Passage to Asia, through the Canadian Arctic, may be a financially viable transportation route at long last. If the Danish claim Hans Island, they would not only have the right to use the Canadian straits as they pleased, but also, it would encourage other nations to use the Northwest Passage, firmly in Canadian territory, as international waters. Also, if oil were found in the area, the Danish would have exclusive control over it.

On July 20, Defence Minister Bill Graham landed on the island, provoking squeals of outrage from the Danish over an illegal ‘occupation’: of Canada’s own territory. On July 25, they declared their intention to issue a strongly worded letter of protest. This matter is not a matter for negotiation, diplomacy or mediation. The land is Canada’s, without qualification. And it is high time that the Liberal Government actually stand up for the country, and firmly defend our national interests and our sovereignty and proud Canadians of all political stripes should applaud them for taking an unequivocal stand (unusual as it is for them) for the country they purport to govern and defend.

And should the Danish imperialism escalate, as withered as Canada’s once strong military arm may be, it is not so weak that it cannot turn back the Viking raiders from our shores. However barren and northerly they may be."

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[redcar]

trust the danish to start sticking their nose in where its not wanted, those scandanavians thinking they can do wat they like.

[Whisper]

trust the danish to start sticking their nose in where its not wanted, those scandanavians thinking they can do wat they like.

YEA!

backward fur belt Viking bastards!

[redcar]

lmao so very true!!!

[nwshc]

It would be the Japs claiming Hawaii, but ya

[Whisper]

It would be the Japs claiming Hawaii, but ya
they wouyldnt dare
they learned there lesson

[serial-thrilla]

lmao denmark!!!
well with our beautiful military here i say we cud trash andorra......if they were having a bad day, and were looking the other way.

http://www.military.ie/images/navy_homepic.jpg

No the danish are trying to take one of our islands n declare it theres if that happens we'll lose a very important channel that both america and russia are now saying is international yet it runs straight threw canada
ontop of that there now saying that allot of the islands in Nunavut and the North West Territorys dosent belong to canada!!! :twisted: :twisted:

Thats like the UK claiming all of ireland
Or Mexico claiming texas
or China claiming Hawaii

I mean god!....BASTARDS!!!

"To look at it right now, no sane person would think much of Hans Island, a glorified pile of rocks in the Canadian arctic. It’s a tiny, blasted and forsaken island a mere 1.3 km in area, desperately far from any civilization.

But, the important thing for Canadians to remember is that Hans Island is our tiny, blasted and forsaken island. And it must stay that way, if we expect any of our international claims of sovereignty over the, now only allegedly, Canadian north to be recognized.

Because, the truth is, Hans Island is far more than just a tiny, blasted and forsaken pile of rocks. It is a symbol of our fight to have our own territory internationally recognized; and, equally importantly, it will become the key to a future global shipping route.

The dispute over Hans Island has been ongoing since 1973, with both the Canadian and Danish governments claiming it. The island itself is located in an area, the Nares Strait, that is recognized as under Canadian sovereignty. However, and this is a big however, due to a mapping anomaly, the island falls in a gray zone; a literal no man’s land.

The treaty of 1973 listed 127 points between the Davis Strait and the end of Robeson Channel, and drawing geodesic lines between these points, used them to form the border. However, because no line was drawn from point 122 to point 123, a no man’s land with a distance of 875 meters was formed: Hans Island falls smack dab in the middle.

On an idealistic level, Hans Island represents Canada’s ability to successfully defend, both politically and militarily, its own claimed territory. Without this ability, its sovereign territory is not worthy of the name. The Danish had landed on the island time and time again; since 1988, they have planted and replaced the Danish flag four times on its rocky surface. Once, they cheekily left a bottle of brandy.

Sadly, because Canada does not possess (surprisingly enough) all weather, ice-strengthened warships, it has no means of easily getting to the island without relying on commercial vessels. This would seem to diminish Canada’s claim to the island; if it can’t reach it, how can it defend it, and if it can’t defend it, how can the island be part of Canadian soil?

Furthermore, Canada’s claim over the north is challenged by both the United States and Russia. While Russia claims sovereignty over parts of the Canadian continental arctic shelf, the United States maintains that the Northwest Passage, which cuts through the middle of Canada’s northern arctic territories, is international waters. In 1985, in fact, the U.S. deliberately sailed a ship through these waters without alerting Canada to emphasize its argument. The battle over Hans Island therefore becomes a tangible legal precedent as well as a symbolic battle for Canada’s claim to its northern lands. If Canada loses the battle over Hans Island, it may appear weak, and other nations may try to press their advantage and claim vulnerable Canadian territory.

Yet this is more than just an international phallic measuring contest. Though it has absolutely no resources, being a large, cold and infertile pile of rocks, Hans Island is a critically and tangibly important economic resource. Whoever controls Hans Island controls the strait. Since the U.N. Convention on the Law of the Sea came into activity in late 1994, there have been strict official rulings on control of sea zones.

From the shoreline, a stretch of twenty-two kilometers (twelve nautical miles) is territorial waters, which qualifies firmly as sovereign territory of the controlling state. Beyond that, another twenty-two kilometers (so forty four kilometers in total) where a country could enforce laws regarding activities that involves maritime transport, such as smuggling and illegal immigration. Finally, the treaty established a 370 kilometer exclusive economize zone, for the purposes of resource exploitation (most importantly, fish and oil).

Why is this important?

Because between the polar icecaps melting at a prodigious rate and the possibility of significant oil deposits in the seabed, at a time when oil deposits are running out, Hans Island becomes a critical tool for the economic exploitation of the arctic. With the polar icecaps melting, the North West Passage to Asia, through the Canadian Arctic, may be a financially viable transportation route at long last. If the Danish claim Hans Island, they would not only have the right to use the Canadian straits as they pleased, but also, it would encourage other nations to use the Northwest Passage, firmly in Canadian territory, as international waters. Also, if oil were found in the area, the Danish would have exclusive control over it.

On July 20, Defence Minister Bill Graham landed on the island, provoking squeals of outrage from the Danish over an illegal ‘occupation’: of Canada’s own territory. On July 25, they declared their intention to issue a strongly worded letter of protest. This matter is not a matter for negotiation, diplomacy or mediation. The land is Canada’s, without qualification. And it is high time that the Liberal Government actually stand up for the country, and firmly defend our national interests and our sovereignty and proud Canadians of all political stripes should applaud them for taking an unequivocal stand (unusual as it is for them) for the country they purport to govern and defend.

And should the Danish imperialism escalate, as withered as Canada’s once strong military arm may be, it is not so weak that it cannot turn back the Viking raiders from our shores. However barren and northerly they may be."

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torontofreepress.com its only one little piece of garbege crappy island in the middle of the arctic with nothing but rocks. i could care less if they take it.

[Whisper]

You should!
fool!

That little piece of shit island is right in the center of what could be an EXTREMLY important trade rought that could make us billions hell trillions

not to mention russia and other countrys r pushing to say that allot of the islands in nunavut arent ours
If we cant hold this then what chance do we have of holdin them?

[TheWizard]

I think canada should get the islands cause its the right thing to do. Go Canada :)

[serial-thrilla]

You should!
fool!

That little piece of shit island is right in the center of what could be an EXTREMLY important trade rought that could make us billions hell trillions

not to mention russia and other countrys r pushing to say that allot of the islands in nunavut arent ours
If we cant hold this then what chance do we have of holdin them? couldnt they just go through it anyway?

[Whisper]

No
If we have that island then it would be considered canadian waters
It would belong to us
they wanna use it
they come to us
any oil deposites anyware in the north that would be a main access point

http://www.airways.cz/galerie/pictures/canadian_air_force_310.jpg
http://www.nato.int/shape/graphics/2004/040701/b040701i.jpg
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http://pateshistory.co.uk/gcse/battlefields/vimyridgemonument.JPG
http://homepages.tesco.net/~townsleyb/TownsFH/images/IMG_0184s.jpg

[kolte]

wow, thats very pretty

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