is president bush a moron

[<-Dying_to_Live->]

but thats not how you do things in this world. and its spelt zimbabwe. you cant go around deciding we dont like this so we will change it to our line of thinking. the people of the country when they finally have had enough will then decide time to take action, and dont tell me that will never happen. the usa was once under british rule but you decided enough was enough and kicked them out as did we. its when they decide to change things should outsiders offer help. but not before.

no. that takes too long. so many people need to be mass murdered before people have the will to revolt in such numbers as to overthrow the gov. it doesnt just happen over nothing. most of the time people cant just "rise up". think about the black slaves in early america. think about the jews. millions of people being oppressed, couldnt do jack. i think that in the interest of freedom and happiness for the betterment of mankind, we have the right to intervene in foreign countries

[kevin]

No, we don't, it's not our culture. As screwed up as you think that is, it's still their decision not to work together and revolt, instead, they all worked for eachother and started killing eachother. And I'm not saying that's right, but we don't know what they're thinking. Plus, we should be talking about the war on terrorism, which initiated with 9/11. We haven't heard too much about that have we. Why haven't we heard much progress on the search for Osama Binladen? He's just as dangerous, so what if it's his so called religion, that should be our first priority. Not this war that has to do with the UK's searches for weapons in Iraq. Because we all know that's where it started, and if Bush hadn't made the mistake of going to war (not saying that it resulted 100% negatively, just not 100% positive), then we might just have sorted out our own national threats even though now we've created our own personal ones. Because as we know, these people aren't afraid to die and take other people with them. It's becoming (and was for a while) their custom. I'm affraid that through this war, there'll soon be a bigger, worse attack, and none of us want that.

[<-Dying_to_Live->]

suicide bombing becomming a custom you say? i think its a damned good thing were trying to stop it. pity you dont think so

[kevin]

suicide bombing becomming a custom you say? i think its a damned good thing were trying to stop it. pity you dont think so

I don't want it to be related with us. That's what I'm saying

[<-Dying_to_Live->]

it is related to us. were there trying to stop it. if we dont, who will? noone

[redcar]

it is related to us. were there trying to stop it. if we dont, who will? noone

this is what annoys me, america thinking its the saviour to the world only american can solve the problems in the world, without them we are screwed. absolute bullshit.

[TheWizard]

I agree

America sticks its nose at the world. I think other countries hate Ameria.

America should help feed the world and help those people having nothing at all. Peace is what Ameria should export.

[kolte]

yeah, its like if america has a problem with another county then its just like. meh, we will kill you and that will be then end of that. its like. yes your the most powerful infuence on the world, yes you could kill anyone you wanted. you don't have to prove that. we allready know. why did america attack iraq. operation iraqi liberation. or OIL yeah, thats what I thought.

[nwshc]

I agree

America sticks its nose at the world. I think other countries hate Ameria.

America should help feed the world and help those people having nothing at all. Peace is what Ameria should export.

You think the other countrys hare america. hmm. what a thought

O, WE should help feed the world and help the people that have nothing. You know, no one else should, only we have to.
We only trying to find a cure for aids and cancer, and donate a hell of a lot. But thats not enough.
Why shouldn't everyother country export peace?
China, russia, The middle east. They could export peace, but no, its all on us.

[nwshc]

it is related to us. were there trying to stop it. if we dont, who will? noone

this is what annoys me, america thinking its the saviour to the world only american can solve the problems in the world, without them we are screwed. absolute bullshit.
pft, well should we have let Saddam become the next hitler of the middle east? No.

[redcar]

I agree

America sticks its nose at the world. I think other countries hate Ameria.

America should help feed the world and help those people having nothing at all. Peace is what Ameria should export.

You think the other countrys hare america. hmm. what a thought


waht are you mouthing on about? firstly most countries hate america.


O, WE should help feed the world and help the people that have nothing. You know, no one else should, only we have to.
We only trying to find a cure for aids and cancer, and donate a hell of a lot. But thats not enough.

what is that supposed to mean? you go no like america is the best in the world the place we mere countries should be looking for to set an example. and what are you going on about

We only trying to find a cure for aids and cancer,

do you think america is the only one? nearly every country in the western world is trying to do that. if you honestly believe everything you are saying about america then i say more fool you.

[redcar]

it is related to us. were there trying to stop it. if we dont, who will? noone

this is what annoys me, america thinking its the saviour to the world only american can solve the problems in the world, without them we are screwed. absolute bullshit.
pft, well should we have let Saddam become the next hitler of the middle east? No.

saddam didnt have the capabilites to do that.

[nwshc]

No, no no no.
My post was mocking josh, and how i do not agree with it.

Thats why i mean by all that
He said he thinks other countryies hate america.
gee, what a great statement

He thinks we should feed and help the less fortunate. We already do.
But of course, it shouldnt be a world effort, only we should according to him.

And i know we are not the only ones finding a cure for aids and cancer. But according to josh, were not, and we need to help more.

[redcar]

please accept my humble appoligies

[nwshc]

please accept my humble appoligies
bah, dont worry bout it. misunderstanding is all

[kolte]

No, no no no.
My post was mocking josh, and how i do not agree with it.

Thats why i mean by all that
He said he thinks other countryies hate america.
gee, what a great statement

He thinks we should feed and help the less fortunate. We already do.
But of course, it shouldnt be a world effort, only we should according to him.

And i know we are not the only ones finding a cure for aids and cancer. But according to josh, were not, and we need to help more.

most other countries DO hate america. america is filthy

[NorwegianBoy]

I don't agree that most countries hate America, they really don't, the only thing we hate is the politics.. That's the only thing we don't like about America. Bush is too far to the right politically speaking.

The American Democrats would be on the right side in about 90 % of all countries in the world, but not in America.. And the Republicans would of course be even further to the right.

I know that very few Americans will agree with me, but almost everyone outside America thinks the same as me. You have everything you need in America, so few people bother to watch elections and other things in other countries. America, as a country, is far to the right in politics even if the Democrats win the next election.

But don't get me wrong, I really hope that the Democrats get the next president, no matter who that might be.[/quote]

[nwshc]

I don't care whether they are dem or repub, only if they are worthy of being president and have good ideals.

[redcar]

I don't care whether they are dem or repub, only if they are worthy of being president and have good ideals.

its a pity more people dont think like that

[<-Dying_to_Live->]

it is related to us. were there trying to stop it. if we dont, who will? noone

this is what annoys me, america thinking its the saviour to the world only american can solve the problems in the world, without them we are screwed. absolute bullshit.

ok, so if we pull out of iraq, who will put it back togeather? Ireland? THATS bullshit. i dont think so. how many millions of children will die if we back out of our food programs for impoverished nations? Ireland? i dont think so. stop complaining that were doing good things in the world. if we dont, britain will. if britain doesnt, NOONE WILL. america and britain are the only nations capable of policing the world

[redcar]

it is related to us. were there trying to stop it. if we dont, who will? noone

this is what annoys me, america thinking its the saviour to the world only american can solve the problems in the world, without them we are screwed. absolute bullshit.

ok, so if we pull out of iraq, who will put it back togeather? Ireland? THATS bullshit. i dont think so. how many millions of children will die if we back out of our food programs for impoverished nations? Ireland? i dont think so. stop complaining that were doing good things in the world. if we dont, britain will. if britain doesnt, NOONE WILL. america and britain are the only nations capable of policing the world

when did i say ireland can do that? and iraq would not need to be put back together if america did not fuck it up in the begining, adn there are more than britain and america in the world u know.......

[<-Dying_to_Live->]

so if america cant do it, and britain cant do it, and ireland cant do it, enlighten me as to what other nations in the world can do it?

[nwshc]

so if america cant do it, and britain cant do it, and ireland cant do it, enlighten me as to what other nations in the world can do it?
Ethiopia
DUH

[redcar]

so if america cant do it, and britain cant do it, and ireland cant do it, enlighten me as to what other nations in the world can do it?

the european union is very large entity, the un, france german spain etc etc etc etc

[kolte]

yeah, the EU is more powerful then america is i would think. Also, canada, japan, austrillia, they all do their part.

[serial-thrilla]

yeah but we dont drop bombs

[<-Dying_to_Live->]

nor do you contribute anything in substance spain? hahaha theyve been going downhill since the 1600s

[kolte]

actually all countries ingaged in the EU have experienced massive economic gain.

[<-Dying_to_Live->]

fuck i was just kidding dont take everything i say literally ;)

[NorwegianBoy]

Norway is not a member of the European Union, and Norway is concidered (by the UN) to be the best country in the world to live in for the 5th time in a row. We do NOT need the European Union to take all of our oil, gas and fish.

We have gotten rich without the European Union. Our neighboor, Sweden, is going down every year, and so is Denmark. They are both in the European Union. Iceland and Switzerland, who are not in the Union as well, are doing well too.

By the way, the European Union is not military, they will not support each other any more than anyone else. :twisted:

[redcar]

We have gotten rich without the European Union.

ireland have gotton rich thanks to eu. we have now one of the highest wages in europe and also we are one of the richest countries in the world, by GDP. we owe alot to the eu.

[kolte]

The EU has brought massive economic gain. they have really helped europe out. I think that all the countries that are trying to join, should be allowed. A united europe, thats somthing thats never ben done.

[nwshc]

Can someone tell me, what is the EU, adn what is it about?

[DouggyO.o]

he isnt a moron but i just dont agree with the things he does, im not saying he is stupid or anything

[redcar]

i dunno how to explain it really, it basically takes down alot of internal boundries between member countries. like citizens of member countries can go work or live anywhere in the eu with no problem going there, no forms to fill in or anything. also it enables the free movement of capital and trade. there is also a currency the euro for 12 member countries and makes it so easy to compare prices. also a lot of taxes are controlled by the eu like corporation taxes etc..

[nwshc]

i dunno how to explain it really, it basically takes down alot of internal boundries between member countries. like citizens of member countries can go work or live anywhere in the eu with no problem going there, no forms to fill in or anything. also it enables the free movement of capital and trade. there is also a currency the euro for 12 member countries and makes it so easy to compare prices. also a lot of taxes are controlled by the eu like corporation taxes etc..
ok, so its basicly...erm... like america?
Its got all the little states (in europts case, countryies) and you can freely roam anywhere in teh EU boundires wihtout passport etc (like roaming through the states) and all one currency and that kind of thing?

[redcar]

you see thats what i am worried about i dont want the european union to turn into a super country, a federal country like america, because i dont wnat each country just ot become a provance, but alas brussels is strting to control a lot of more things.

[nwshc]

you see thats what i am worried about i dont want the european union to turn into a super country, a federal country like america, because i dont wnat each country just ot become a provance, but alas brussels is strting to control a lot of more things.
I couldnt find anything else to compare it to.
Is there anyway that the EU can be "checked" so it does gain anymore power?

[kolte]

you see thats what i am worried about i dont want the european union to turn into a super country, a federal country like america, because i dont wnat each country just ot become a provance, but alas brussels is strting to control a lot of more things.

Yeah I don't really understand why brussels is the capital. Its stupid. All these cities to choose from and they made it brussels. why don't you just shoot me in the back I mean come on brussels? i eat brussels for dinner. Make it like London, or Berlin, or Paris, or Madrid, or shit, any city but Brussels.

[redcar]

well at the moment i dont see it happening. isuppose if the likes of germany or france decided they were not happy with things would change because they are the biggest and most powerful countries. like at the moment interest rates, which are controlled by the european central bank, are low because france and germany are economically not doing so well.

[NorwegianBoy]

I'm sorry if someone thought that I'm saying that the European Union is a bad thing, of course it's not. I was just saying it to let people know that it's possible to survive without it. We are doing fine without it, and we have said no 2 times.

I think that Iceland, Switzerland and Norway will join it in some years. But we really do not need to. Iceland and Norway are half-way members, we have an economic deal with the EU.

The European Union is not military! I don't see why all people seem to think that. The members do not have any military alliance. :shock:

I think that countries like India and China are military underestimated. India is the military most advanced country in the world (and that is true), so they could kick any European country's ass anytime, if they are against each other without anyone else. But that is of course not going to happen.

But this topic is about Bush anyway, so I just wanna apologize for going off topic.

[redcar]

so true they have no military alliance and if an alliance was to be sought ireland couldnt take part being a neutral country.

[<-Dying_to_Live->]

y not?

[redcar]

well ireland is a neutral and according to our constitution we cannot join any military alliance. say if the eu set up a military alliance and then they declared war against someone ireland would then be part of the war and that would in contradiction of our constitution.

[<-Dying_to_Live->]

lol thats so lame. there could be another hitler and ud sit on ur hands and watch the world get destroyed? damn

[redcar]

no its great been neutral we love it!!! during world war II we were neutral and we only got bombed once because the pilots thought we are england other than that we were fine, its gr8 been neutral everyone loves ya!!!!!:D:D

[thatguy]

The only thing that makes me not sure President Bush is a moron is that he's so extremely good at getting away with whatever he wants.

He morphed Saddam Hussein into Osama Bin Laden, and the people bought it

He morphed Afghanistan into Iraq and the people bought it

He morphed "family values" into Christian beliefs should govern the US

He morphed the estate tax (tax on estates over 1 million dollars) into a "death tax"

He morphed liberal into "anti-american" and "pro-terrorism"

And so on, so if he's a moron...he's an extremely smart moron...so....perhaps he's just a horrible human being...that's all I can come up with

[[email protected]//]

he is our worst president and the stupidest president weve ever had. i disagree with everything he does

[MasterCujo]

Yes. If not I don't know what you defonition of moron is. He has No speaking skills as you can hear whenever he is talking, no real econic sense, and no real education. You may say he went to yale. but unlike most people who earn their way in, his PARENTS payed for him to get in. He may have good intentions and whatnot, but he seems so much like a moron, he just takes whatever anyone tells him from his own circle of friends, laps it up, and ignores everything else. If you notice, every person he has nominated for Anything has been a close personal friend of Bush, so he does not really care about anyone else he doesn't know. I think that even if you say he means well, he has DESTROYED THIS COUNTRY!!! I won't even go into invading Iraq...

[serial-thrilla]

Yes. If not I don't know what you defonition of moron is. He has No speaking skills as you can hear whenever he is talking, no real econic sense, and no real education. You may say he went to yale. but unlike most people who earn their way in, his PARENTS payed for him to get in. He may have good intentions and whatnot, but he seems so much like a moron, he just takes whatever anyone tells him from his own circle of friends, laps it up, and ignores everything else. If you notice, every person he has nominated for Anything has been a close personal friend of Bush, so he does not really care about anyone else he doesn't know. I think that even if you say he means well, he has DESTROYED THIS COUNTRY!!! I won't even go into invading Iraq... just because his parents paid his way in that doesent mean it wasent just as hard for him to graduate as it would be for all the other people attending school there. and im sure you will never amount to anything even close to what he did. you may think hes a moron but if he can convince more then half of america to vote for him twice he must have something going for him.

[[email protected]//]

exactly there is nothing good about him..im so glad deomcrats governors were elected in nj and virginia it serves him right

[<-Dying_to_Live->]

, his PARENTS payed for him to get in.

HOW THE FUCK ELSE DO YOU GET INTO COLLEGE WITHOUT PAYING??? a scholorship? did you think he was gunna pay himself? yale costs an assload of money its not like free learning u twit of COURSE his parents paid for it

[kolte]

is he a moron.......no.........but do I think he is a bad person......yes.

[redcar]

, his PARENTS payed for him to get in.

HOW THE FUCK ELSE DO YOU GET INTO COLLEGE WITHOUT PAYING??? a scholorship? did you think he was gunna pay himself? yale costs an assload of money its not like free learning u twit of COURSE his parents paid for it

some of us have the privalage of free third level education.

[RowanVer.3.0]

If there's that many people that hate him he's doing something wrong. So don't even bother saying he's not a moron. He is. Done deal. That's like saying, you know what, Hitler's a good guy, I mean, sure he killed the jews and many many others, but hey.. He was a good leader. Bush isn't even a good leader when you come to think about it. Hitler was a good leader, Napoleon was a good leader.. I don't think in a hundred years the word George W. Bush will mean anything to anyone. Unless he does something completely retarded like starts another world war, which wouldn't surprise me...

[<-Dying_to_Live->]

, his PARENTS payed for him to get in.

HOW THE FUCK ELSE DO YOU GET INTO COLLEGE WITHOUT PAYING??? a scholorship? did you think he was gunna pay himself? yale costs an assload of money its not like free learning u twit of COURSE his parents paid for it

some of us have the privalage of free third level education.

ya, SOME of us. not MOST of us. how could u get mad at someone for getting into college the same way millions of other people do? and believe me bud ur free learning in ireland doesnt really compare to yale or harvard