Still allow accomplishment threads?

[MoveAlong]

Should we still allow these?

It's come to the point now where we aren't just seeing Rep Blocks and Post Count accomplishments. We're seeing threads about just about everything...Rep Blocks, Rep Power (http://www.virtualteen.org/forums/showthread.php?t=25215), post count accomplishments, and now, shoutbox posts (http://www.virtualteen.org/forums/showthread.php?t=25791).

One thing about Rep Power is that it can change 4 times in a week or so. In fact, that's what happened to me. It went up because I was here a year, then it went up because I got 400 rep points, and then again just yesterday when I reached 5,000 posts, and [edit] just now I got some more Rep and now I have 19 Rep Power when a week ago I had 15

and the thing about shoutbox posts is that it can change drastically every single day, and Kiros has been known to prune the shoutbox every once-in-awhile, making everybody's "accomplishment" go back to zero and the wave of threads comes in again.

Here's a statement by Alex in the previous thread proposing an alternative to "accomplishment threads":

I personally think this wave of bragging will pass as quick as it started.

This hasn't been the case since now people are coming up with new things to use as "accomplishments"

and in fact, LightinDarkness made a very good point in a recent thread:
I bet the next one is going to be "I just joined the most Social Groups," or "I just made the most Blogs,"

You KNOW that's tottaalllyyyy going to happen

My idea:
I'm thinking we could have a thread that people can post in when they have an accomplishment they want to share, just like Govteen: http://forums.govteen.com/showthread.php?t=154600

Although, it shouldn't be a stickied thread - we have enough of those. It could be bumped every once-in-awhile just like the Good Morning ~ Good Night (http://www.virtualteen.org/forums/showthread.php?t=3656) thread, Your VT family (http://www.virtualteen.org/forums/showthread.php?t=24149) thread, and what are you wearing? (http://www.virtualteen.org/forums/showthread.php?t=25039) thread. In fact, it would be a lot more useful than all those threads.

So my idea is a bumped "post all accomplishments here" thread

so what do you think?

[Oblivion]

I think that there should be one main one like GovTeen, where everyone posts theirs

[The Batman]

I like the high post count threads and the rep block threads because most of the time they do deserve a thread, but your right recently it has been starting to get ridiculous to almost a point where maybe there should be someone to intervene. I still don't think we should disallow them yet because they are dying a bit in popularity, but we should have some kind of guidelines up to prevent the nonsense threads. Maybe enforce a new rule like if the accomplishment is not of significant importance than it is classified as spam and it will be locked, but if you continue to make threads like it then you get an infraction. But I don't think that we should ban them altogether.

[MoveAlong]

Maybe enforce a new rule like if the accomplishment is not of significant importance than it is classified as spam and it will be locked, but if you continue to make threads like it then you get an infraction. But I don't think that we should ban them altogether.

enforcing a new rule like that would not limit the space that the threads take up and they're still on the thread list. Making a thread to encompass all accomplishments would remove some a number of threads from the list and make room for many other more appropriate and less frivolous topics.

I think that there should be one main one like GovTeen, where everyone posts theirs
Please remember to vote in the poll!!

[cjdude]

the poll needs:

We should allow them; I support the idea...

unless i just dont understand, which is more likely ;)

[MoveAlong]

the poll needs:

We should allow them; I support the idea...

unless i just dont understand, which is more likely ;)

No actually, I'm saying that we should disallow the actual threads, and get a special thread for them.
The other ones say "we should disallow the actual threads, and not get a special thread for them - so we should do something else to get rid of them", and the one on the top says "we should allow the threads, so we don't need a special thread for them"

which means that if there were a poll option like the one you just stated, it would say "we should allow threads like this, and we should have a special thread so those threads aren't posted" - that poll option contridicts itself.

[Sugaree]

It obviously is getting out of hand. I don't mind a post accomplishment thread or a rep block thread. I'm fine with those. The thing I don't like is how people are posting useless shit like "I just got the most shouts in the shoutbox" or "I have the most social groups" crap.

I agree with the idea of having a thread that is allowed to be bumped.

[Oblivion]

^^ Not mentioning any names (:

Anyway, i think that the GovTeen one was out of hand too, so we need to be more strict about it if we make one

OR we could have an achievement forum that is specifically for posting achievements! And it could be like arcade where it doesnt go towards post count!

[MoveAlong]

OR we could have an achievement forum that is specifically for posting achievements! And it could be like arcade where it doesnt go towards post count!

Please don't make any suggestions about an achievement forum, it has already been decided that we won't have one of those because we simply don't have enough posts of this nature to need a WHOLE forum like that.

-as cited from Alex:
I don't think we have anywhere near the amount of threads appearing to warrant a subforum.

[Sugaree]

^^ Not mentioning any names (:

Anyway, i think that the GovTeen one was out of hand too, so we need to be more strict about it if we make one

OR we could have an achievement forum that is specifically for posting achievements! And it could be like arcade where it doesnt go towards post count!

I know that I've made a few threads about it. But it wasn't the biggest deal in the world to me. But, I think I know better now then I did when I originally made those threads.

Me and Rudi both mentioned having an achievement forum. The idea never worked. Why make a forum that you can post about a post accomplishment and it doesn't even count?

When people make the "I made X number of posts" thread, that means that when they post that thread it means that they just posted that number of posts with that thread.

So if you made that thread which is your X number of posts and it doesn't count then it really isn't an accompishment.

[Oblivion]

Oh ok. Never mind about the achievement forums then. :(
But we should be able to recognize our achievements. And if there was an achievements forum, there would be no limit on the sillyness because the posts wouldn't count.

[MoveAlong]

When people make an "I made X number of posts" thread, that means that when they post that thread it means that they just posted that number of posts with that thread.

Not always; that's not how I do it.
still, making a thread that houses all accomplishments would mean that there would be less place to spam.

to Arctic Fox's last post - true, but we just simply don't get that many accomplishments on a regular basis to fill an entire forum.

[Underground_Network]

I think that accomplishment threads shouldn't be posted in TWPR [hey I know this coming from me, but hear me out], but that people should have the option to post them in their diary, as it is something personal to them, their own personal milestone. And some people also like to keep track of things like their achievements/accomplishments in their diary, so it kind of works out that way. And the idea of may be an accomplishment forum in which posts don't count isn't that bad an idea. I'm not sure where I stand, so I'm not going to vote.

[Mzor203]

I think people should be able to make accomplishment threads in their diaries, or maybe just one, and that there should be a bragging thread. Definitely a bragging thread, I hate bragging topics, they're just pointless.

[MoveAlong]

I think people should be able to make accomplishment threads in their diaries, or maybe just one, and that there should be a bragging thread.

people should have the option to post them in their diary

To the last two posters, yes, people should have to option to post accomplishments in their diary, but what about those without diaries? An accomplishment thread would be great for those people

[Mzor203]

That's why I said I agree with having a bragging thread.

[The Batman]

No matter what people are still going to do what they want to do and the attention seekers will most likely post their own threads.

[MoveAlong]

No matter what people are still going to do what they want to do and the attention seekers will most likely post their own threads.

If a seperate thread for post count accomplishments is created, all threads created by members from then on will probably be merged with the new "official" thread.

[Mzor203]

@LightXInXDarkness

And get infracted. :)

Seriously, after someone breaks the rules and the staff do something about it, they will stop.

[The Batman]

But still it wouldn't be stickied and if they don't see the thread it wouldn't be fair for them to get an infraction. I know these threads are pretty pointless but I don't think we should force this on everyone because a couple of people posted about random crap.

[MoveAlong]

And get infracted. :)

People will probably not get infracted for accidently making a thread, or doing something like this once. Infractions are for more serious things/repeat offenders. An infraction is a little too intense for posting your own thread instead of posting in a certain thread when you aren't sure what the rules are.

LightinDarkness -> I'm saying we should have an accomplishment thread just because accomplishment threads take up room. Not JUST because some people are posting about things that aren't really that special anymore.

[Maverick]

@LightXInXDarkness

And get infracted. :)

Seriously, after someone breaks the rules and the staff do something about it, they will stop.
Infracted? I don't see us giving infractions over trivial things. Please don't make assumptions of what staff will do.

I'm not liking the idea of us policing post count threads when they hurt no one. Its so silly to give someone an infraction for posting accomplishment threads.

I think the simple questions of "does it really matter?," "is it a big deal," and "are there other things we should be worried about" need to be asked.

Its so much easier for you guys to just ignore these threads than staff fighting a never ending battle with forcing people to use the thread. Its not going to kill you if you stumble across one.

[MoveAlong]

Its so much easier for you guys to just ignore these threads than staff fighting a never ending battle with forcing people to use the thread. Its not going to kill you if you stumble across one.

How will it be a never ending battle? Why are you being so overbearing?

[Maverick]

It will be a never ending battle because people will still make their own thread time and time again. Also merging threads jumbles conversations together and creates a mess.

I am not acting any kind of way. I'm just posting what I think.

[MoveAlong]

It will be a never ending battle because people will still make their own thread time and time again.

Not if the members get accustomed to posting accomplishments in the thread provided. Many new members will also follow suit because they will see the thread that things need to be done in.
In fact, that's why many new members even post accomplishments in the first place - because they see other people do it.

Also merging threads jumbles conversations together and creates a mess.

This won't be such a problem because posts are posted at a certain time. If they're merged early enough, it won't jumble the conversation too much. Plus, the conversations are not highly sophisticated in these threads and won't seem too confusing because most people will say "congratulations", which could apply to anyone, or point out a specific member and say "congratulations, xxxxx", which wouldn't confuse anybody.

[Mzor203]

Infracted? I don't see us giving infractions over trivial things. Please don't make assumptions of what staff will do.

I'm not liking the idea of us policing post count threads when they hurt no one. Its so silly to give someone an infraction for posting accomplishment threads.

I think the simple questions of "does it really matter?," "is it a big deal," and "are there other things we should be worried about" need to be asked.

Its so much easier for you guys to just ignore these threads than staff fighting a never ending battle with forcing people to use the thread. Its not going to kill you if you stumble across one.


It's annoying, clogging up TWPR, there's really no need. It's basically saying, 'Come praise me people'.

I really don't see why members couldn't be encouraged to use the thread. People at GovTeen do, I am assuming if Zach posted the link. They have more members, and so it would be harder even for them, so why can't we do it?

I'm not trying to assume, but I'm saying that after the staff took action on a member, it would stop. Simple as that. If members like VT, they're not gonna keep trying to get themselves in trouble, and usually when they post an accomplishment, it means they like VT.

It really wouldn't be too hard to enforce after a while, and it cleans up TWPR a lot more.

[The Batman]

Just because GovTeen is doing it doesn't mean we should. There are pointless threads made all the time and just to stop one because it's annoying isn't a good enough excuse. If these threads were somehow hurtful to other members then yea they should be stopped but I don't think the mods should waste their time enforcing a rule that doesn't make sense. If you don't like it then the easiest thing to do is just ignore them and go about your day.

[MoveAlong]

Just because GovTeen is doing it doesn't mean we should.
That isn't the only reason.

They are annoying, and I don't like them not just because they're annoying, but they take up room for other more significant threads that might mean something.

I mean SERIOUSLY, some threads we need to get rid of, not just these reoccurring accomplishment threads. "Good Morning ~ Good Night"?? Is saying good morning really that important? Don't people do that in the shoutbox? Isn't that just a way to increase your post count?

A post count accomplishment thread would be 10x more useful than "Good Morning/Good Night" and "What are you wearing?", both of which are taking up space with the accomplishment threads.

Why are people using the argument of "well the mods shouldn't have more work to do"?
1. it's not that hard to merge a thread,
2. after a short while people may become accustomed to it

[The Batman]

I understand that really, but its just that it's TWPR there are going to be random threads in there all the time and I can guarantee you that there will be even more pointless threads in the future so getting rid of this isn't going to stop it there will just be something else to take it's place.

[MoveAlong]

I understand that really, but its just that it's TWPR there are going to be random threads in there all the time and I can guarantee you that there will be even more pointless threads in the future so getting rid of this isn't going to stop it there will just be something else to take it's place.

just because one thing goes doesn't mean that something WILL come and take its place as being annoying.

I know there's constantly pointless threads. but we have a few things that just keep taking up space on the first page. Good Morning ~ Good Night, what are you wearing?, how was your day?, Your VT Famliy, what's the weather like at your currently location?, etc. Nobody reads those and none of those threads really help anybody in any way.

I just named off 6 different threads that take up space on the first page, and many of them are pointless/silly. There's an additional 2 accomplishment threads that are taking up 2 more spaces. that's 8 spaces out of 20 that are pretty much kept useless. It would be nice that by getting rid of the accomplishment threads and merging them into one, we can use that as a start to clean up TWPR.

But I'm not trying to change TWPR completely. I mean, I find these accomplish threads annoying, and a lot of other people do too. So I'm trying to get rid of them or put them in their place.

[Mzor203]

The poll speaks for itself.

I back up Zach fully on this.

[The Batman]

Only 8 people have voted that's not enough to count for the majority. It's not up to zach though it's up to the admins, and by the what the staff is saying it might not happen.

[Mzor203]

Well let's all leave it at that then. We've all stated our opinions, let's just wait for votes and see what admins think.

[MoveAlong]

I hope you guys aren't the only ones who will state your opinions, I hope we can get more votes and perhaps more opinions before the admins even come into the conversation with a verdict

[liam]

I think that there should be one main one like GovTeen, where everyone posts theirs

I agree.

[Aηdy]

I agree.

Me too.

[redcar]

I have always hated the idea of compartmentalising members. Saying you can only post x in y and no where else. Having rules for everything. I have always been against the idea of stopping accomplishment threads in the WPR and moving them somewhere else or putting them all in one thread.

Granted the latest, 1000 shouts thread, has irritated me. In saying that I am very hesitant to go with creating a rule that stops it. Like what next. "Post only Summer Holiday Plans in this thread" or "Happy Birthday's Only in this thread". It is very easy to go down the road, and it is not a road I would like to see VT go.

[Brandon639]

Hmmm. Couldn't we make a whole Section for general accomplishments? Like, not just VT related, but life related? Or maybe a sub section?

[redcar]

Hmmm. Couldn't we make a whole Section for general accomplishments? Like, not just VT related, but life related? Or maybe a sub section?
No, I don't think a whole section would work to be honest.

[Whisper]

I agree Alex

[Underground_Network]

^^ I think putting in a whole section would do nothing but encourage people to post more and more accomplishment threads, and even if the posts didn't add to post count, it could get out of hand.

[MoveAlong]

...I am very hesitant to go with creating a rule that stops it. Like what next. "Post only Summer Holiday Plans in this thread" or "Happy Birthday's Only in this thread". It is very easy to go down the road, and it is not a road I would like to see VT go.

That's exaggerating just a little bit - I hope we can all agree that summer only comes once a year, and that happy birthdays and summer plans are not as annoying as accomplishments and how people are expanding what "accomplishment" means.

[Whisper]

zach if you don't like them don't click on them

[MoveAlong]

zach if you don't like them don't click on them

Cody dude I wouldn't if they didn't have such weird titles:

http://www.virtualteen.org/forums/showthread.php?t=21459
http://www.virtualteen.org/forums/showthread.php?t=21859

From experience, an ancient member like you should know that andy isn't the only one that comes up with creative titles.
when I create a thread, sometimes these other pointless threads are bumping my thread and other good threads away with their "omg, 3 rep blogs [email protected]!249)(". Not only that, I'm not the only one who gets annoyed by these threads, and I'm not the only one that doesn't appreciate a comment like "well just don't click on them! O_O!" it fuckin bothers us.

[Whisper]

Touché...BUUUT I still don't like the idea of creating a whole new section for it, or shoving it all into one thread in TWPR because we both know they won't use that thread/sticky dude which basically makes another penis size sticky deal all over again
which is a real pain in the freakin ass

so am I COMPLETELY opposed to the idea of trying to stop the frequency no i'm not
but so far what I've heard
I don't believewill work or is viable

[MoveAlong]

...I still don't like the idea of creating a whole new section for it...

I couldn't agree more

Well all I'm doing now is advocating for an idea that may not work. That's all you can do when you propose an idea.

[Oblivion]

I agree with alexs post about making so many rules to control members. I fully agree with the 'Don't Like it, Dont Click It' If you see one that says 'I shared my dinner with an albino penguin' and happen to click on it, theres this magic button on almost every web browser that lets you go back to the previous page. Those were two rather rare titles by the same person. Not a very good argument.

Bumping? Thats a little bit of a better argument, but theres usually only one, maybe two accomplishment threads being bumped at the same time. That would be the same as one huge accomplishment threads, except one huge one would have all the complications previously stated.
Nice Titles that are descriptive Zach!:
lawl (http://www.virtualteen.org/forums/showthread.php?t=22070)
8) (http://www.virtualteen.org/forums/showthread.php?t=18604)

[MoveAlong]

that third link is extremely inappropriate as that is a personal matter that I am still facing. I find it very offensive that you brought that up. Please remove it.

Those were two rather rare titles by the same person. Not a very good argument.

backed up with argument:
From experience, an ancient member like you should know that andy isn't the only one that comes up with creative titles.

That would be the same as one huge accomplishment threads, and one huge one would have all the complications previously stated.

No. A thread stated would not have ALL the complications previously stated. Although it would be bumped, it would only take up ONE space on the forum index. It would also not have a very indiscriptive title.

a link you have posted from me is from my noob days. Back then, I was not nearly as mature with forums in general. Also, others, such as "8)" are descriptive in that, that is the code I was protesting about. And another thing, "lawl" was a post specifically about a joke played; therefore, it has a casual title.

[Oblivion]

Err dang it sorry i didnt read it
Still my opinion stands

[MoveAlong]

Err dang it sorry i didnt read it
Still my opinion stands

I have edited my post with information about the points you have provided.
I am also still very displeased with your mistake.

[Oblivion]

. Although it would be bumped, it would only take up ONE space on the forum index.

Thats exactly what i was saying. There is usually one, maybe two at most, active thread(s) about accomplishments.

I am sorry your still displeased, but as you probably know, any person in the world with internet can go view that thread. I didn't create it.

I do apologize again for bringing it up though, but it was unintentionally rude. As i stated, i didn't read it and it was a stupid mistake.

[MoveAlong]

Thats exactly what i was saying. There is usually one, maybe two at most, active thread(s) about accomplishments.

Thats a little bit of a better argument, but theres usually only one, maybe two accomplishment threads being bumped at the same time.

What I am trying to say, which is in my original post, is that this is an expanding problem. People are coming with new ideas to post "accomplishments" about. By creating a single thread, we can limit the expansion.

[The Batman]

Hmm I wonder who made this thread
66...7 :-p (http://www.virtualteen.org/forums/showthread.php?t=6959)
Calling the kettle black much.

[Oblivion]

In a perfect world a single thread would work. But unfortunately this isn't a perfect world.

Staff members would be working SO hard just to make the accomplishments thread work. It really isn't worth their time and effort to destroy a minor inconvenience to part of the population of members.

[MoveAlong]

Hmm I wonder who made this thread
66...7 :-p (http://www.virtualteen.org/forums/showthread.php?t=6959)
Calling the kettle black much.

Not reading posts above [email protected] 3vsugfd6tzs8o0ug izsh gh
I was a fuckin noob all the time from 1 post to 4000 posts and all posts within that frame are stupid stupid threads that I regret considerably.

Staff members would be working SO hard just to make the accomplishments thread work.

working SO hard? I don't understand how banning members, changing diaries, and creating new forums are small details and maintaining a simple thread, that doesn't need much matinence, is that hard.

In a perfect world a single thread would work. But unfortunately this isn't a perfect world...

...It really isn't worth their time and effort to destroy a minor inconvenience to part of the population of members.

Unfortunately my argument is not perfect. It never was, I knew it never was, and was never going to be. But the reason I posted this thread was because U_N posted that "1000 shouts" thread and Alex thought that was kind of silly. So I'm thinking "it's as good of time as the present to bring this up. If it's going to happen, it's probably going to happen now". So I did it and came up with as many reasons to support it as I could.

That is ALL a person with an idea can do to promote his/her idea fairly. That is what I'm doing. Trying my best at pushing this idea till it is rejected completely.

[MoveAlong]

double posting, yes I am. But I am so SICK of you noobs acting so fuckin sarcastic to me. Would you PLEASE show some respect. Not respect cause I've been here longer, just respect because I don't appreciate the attitude and find it offensive and it's rude.

[The Batman]

I take it your aiming that at me and here's what I have to say. How can you tell us to show some respect when you haven't shown us any by calling me a noob that's disrespectful. You brought up the threads made by andy and I simply pointed out one made by you so if that pisses you off I don't care. You can't disrespect anyone and then plan on them showing you some respect. It's also funny how you say you don't appreciate an attitude when clearly you're the main one throwing a temper tantrum when you see something you don't like. BTW I'm not arguing I'm just pointing out the obvious.

edit: And another thing wow you gave me negative rep I'm going to go cry now(sarcastic enough for you)

[-Silence]

Jeez guys.

Anyways,
I like the idea. It's getting annoying with the threads about posts and whatnot, just because posts or rep shouldn't be a big deal, you should just care about what you're posting, and hopefully trying to help. Will one thread fix it, I doubt it, but it could be worth a shot.

[MoveAlong]

edit: And another thing wow you gave me negative rep I'm going to go cry now(sarcastic enough for you)
Real mature.

I take it your aiming that at me and here's what I have to say. How can you tell us to show some respect when you haven't shown us any by calling me a noob that's disrespectful. You brought up the threads made by andy and I simply pointed out one made by you so if that pisses you off I don't care. You can't disrespect anyone and then plan on them showing you some respect. It's also funny how you say you don't appreciate an attitude when clearly you're the main one throwing a temper tantrum when you see something you don't like. BTW I'm not arguing I'm just pointing out the obvious.

1. now you are steering the thread off into a tangent when you could of just let my statement be.
2. You call this a tantrum? You ain't seen nothin of my past
3. The disrespect in "noob" is in the eye of the beholder.
4. Cody calls many people noobs all the time and they don't seem to mind it.
5. I am not aming everything at you, and not aming my last post at you in particular.
6. You pointed out the thread after I had already explained that I was ashamed of my noob days and that older threads are silly with an attitude.
7. This anger I have right now is NOT just because of ONE thing I have seen from you.

Please stop the discussion about this attitude thing in this thread. Please PM me if you would like to continue this discussion.

[Oblivion]

Attitude? You just called us 'fucking sarcastic noobs'. We are debating and there is bound to be attitude.

What the hell is up with you taking rep from a debate? You need to grow up and stop being so rude yourself. I was NOT trying to be rude or sarcastic. If you think i was, then you need to learn a bit about people, because obviously you are not very thoughtful

If anyone is a disrespectful noob that is being 'fucking sarcastic' it is you.

[MoveAlong]

What the hell is up with you taking rep from a debate?
I subtracted rep from you because I think that your sarcasm was rude.

The "debate" has gone on long enough. Obviously this thread is doing no good. Please stop hijacking my thread when I have continously asked you to stop and you've had a few times to just leave this be. Thread has been reported to be locked.

[Oblivion]

What the hell are you talking about? Hijacking your thread? This thread was started to ask whether we want one thread or multiple ones. Thomas and I are stating our opinion and your acting like King of the Forums saying were noobs and were being too sarcastic and rude. YOU are being extremely rude.

I know i haven't, and i doubt thomas has, said anything that was intentionally rude. Why would we do that? We are stating our opinions, this isn't Hate-On-Zach day

[The Batman]

Zach obviously you have a lot of growing to do and you take things way to seriously if small remarks like that get under your skin then you need to loosen up. People are going to have different views and you really shouldn't get mad because a lot of the time you come off as sarcastic and mean, so that's why we put what we do whenever you post.

[Whisper]

Back on topic!
Dot your i's and cross your t's
or i'll just infract the lot
you've been here long enough
you all know the rules
act like it

[Oblivion]

Sorry Zach, after calming and looking back at my posts i see how some would be rude.

I apologize

[redcar]

That's exaggerating just a little bit - I hope we can all agree that summer only comes once a year, and that happy birthdays and summer plans are not as annoying as accomplishments and how people are expanding what "accomplishment" means.

You missed my point in that case. What I am saying is if we make a rule about accomplishments then I can guarantee in no time there will be requests to have more "Post all x in this thread" rules appearing. We need as few rules as possible not more.

[Gavin]

well, it seems i've missed alot while i've been gone :)

I'm just wondering how about a controlled diary by the admin/mods for accomplishements, that way we don't have posts all over the place, and for members that don't like to read threads about these different accomplishements in the TWPR don't have to read them and for those who do like to post achievements have a designated area for them.

[Brandon639]

Kinda like what I said, a sub section, or something to that affect? :)

[The Resurrected One]

When I get name changes I put them in my Diary. When I've gotten a new rank face I put that in the WPR. So I think those with Diaries should just put them there. Meaning I should start doing that too from now on. :P

[Oblivion]

well, it seems i've missed alot while i've been gone :)

I'm just wondering how about a controlled diary by the admin/mods for accomplishements, that way we don't have posts all over the place, and for members that don't like to read threads about these different accomplishements in the TWPR don't have to read them and for those who do like to post achievements have a designated area for them.

I suggested giving up my diary for this but Alex said it was unnecessary, and i guess i kind of agree.

[Zephyr]

We should allow them, I don't support the idea.

It's like reaching a milestone in your VT life,
So why not celebrate?

Besides, it helps to keep up the positive attitude that we have here = ]

[Gumleaf]

We should allow them, I don't support the idea.

It's like reaching a milestone in your VT life,
So why not celebrate?

Besides, it helps to keep up the positive attitude that we have here = ]

i made the mistake of voting before reading the posts here, and after agreeing with the idea, i now agree that we should allow them. steph is right here. if these threads cause you such pain and misery, don't read them! too easy.

[Underground_Network]

Ignorance is bliss. If you don't fucking like the thread, then fucking ignore it. There are a lot of threads other than accomplishment threads that are annoying and could be viewed as "taking up space" in TWPR, so why not make a big thread for those too? I mean, there are a lot of "questionable" threads in TWPR, its not just accomplishment threads. We see a lot of interesting threads, that trust me, probably get on your nerves as well as mine. Just remember that its not just accomplishment threads that take up space and maybe "bump back" a "more important" thread. And also, I have to agree with Steph, accomplishment threads are kind of a way of keeping a positive and happy attitude here on VT. I know a lot of members get really happy when they reach a milestone and they seriously just have to post it, and by making their own thread, its adding their own personal touch to it, plus they probably feel they will probably get more attention from it. Seriously, being able to make your own accomplishment threads can make you feel better, I'll admit there have been times in the past where I was DEPRESSED, and I hit a milestone like say 2,500 posts, and then I made a thread about it, and it made me happier. I know its silly, but still, it just made me feel good, and then making my own thread and people actually replying and giving me recognition made me feel any better. Again, I know it sounds silly, or maybe even ridiculous, but its TRUE.

[Bobby]

Blah Blah Blah. All of you people back of Zack. He is twice as cool as you will ever be. He is great member on this site. He is the kind of member that possesses good qualities that many new members have been lacking. So back off, seriously.

This issue has only been relevent recently with the new generation of memebers. I agree with Zack, these things are very annoying. We don't care about your 1,000 shouts. Or your 352nd rep point. I think accomplishment threads should be limited to whenever you get a new face, like it used to be. We didn't even have a rule, but it was in control. We never had that much of a problem. No rep threads. No shout threads. No name change threads. Just new faces. It's simple, it's easy, it's clean.

There you go.

[SirRawrsalot]

^Agreed. Honestly, I think people use those as an excuse to post a couple times.

[Sugaree]

Bobby, Rep + for that post.

I agree fully with what Bobby said. People are using stupid things like Rep blocks and shouts as an excuse to make these threads. It's getting annoying. I also agree with Adam on the issue. It makes people feel good that they reached a milestone in posts.

If you really see a thread that looks nonsensical then just ignore it. If you don't want to see it then just forget about it.

[Oblivion]

Some people actually want to acknowledge there accomplishments and let others know how god they are doing. i don't think its fair to stereotype and say everyone who makes one is trying to get their post count up.

Edit: Also, Bobby i dislike how you brought up me and Zachs small problem, because i openly apologized, Zach and i discussed it in PM, the discussion was moving onward, AND Kodie already told us to get back on topic.

[Underground_Network]

It is as simple as this: someone posts a stupid thread [i.e. me posting my "1000 Shouts Thread"], you dislike it, you ignore it, by ignoring it, you cause it to get less attention, the OP gets to post less, doesn't get attention, realizes making the thread was stupid/"fail", they don't do it again, other members that notice its lack of "recognition" also decide against making a thread like that, etc...

[MoveAlong]

after a global moderator states that a subject is to be dropped inside the thread, it's best to take things to PMs, whether it's an apology, or whether it's defending someone's case, or whether it's disagreeing with a member for continuing the discussion. The PMs is where things like this should be taken.


Because 2 admins and 2 global moderators have already voted "no" for the suggestion, a thread such as in my idea will most likely not be created.

And by saying that, thank you to Gav, Johnny, Steph, fourseasons, Bobby, Otaku, Arctic Fox, Charlie, and U_N for coming up and discussing alternatives/opinions. All of them sound good and I cannot choose. I think it would be nice to put a rule on this, or at least a minor rule, like Bobby suggested, but I'm not sure if that's going to happen - I think it would also be ok to just ignore these completely because suggestions keep getting rejected. So whatever. I hope we can get an admin's comment!
sorry for using sophistocated words :P I'm not really that type of person except in certain situations like this

[redcar]

I hope we can get an admin's comment!
I am not really sure what kind of comment you are looking for here, I have already made my points.

I think its great the way this thread has got so much attention and love to see enthusiasm for all things VT. But I think we all need to remember that VT is better is with as few rules as possible. The more rules mean the staff will start to become more like police than members and a lot of fun will be taken out of the place.

But I do love debates on how to improve VT and this a great example.

[MoveAlong]

so are you saying that we should leave things unchanged?

[redcar]

No I didn't say that.

I have always been a fan of change on VT. However changes for good not bad. I think an unnecessary increase in rules is bad.

[Triple7]

so are you saying that we should leave things unchanged?

Regarding the accomplishment threads, yes.

[Bobby]

Let me ask you a very simple question Alex. I'd prefer a yes or no answer if you don't mind.

Do accomplishment thread, except for new face milestones, annoy you?

[MoveAlong]

(edit, Francis already cleared up his answer to the question)

Alex, what do you think we should do? If we don't want new rules, and we don't want things unchanged, what do you think should happen?

[redcar]

Do accomplishment thread, except for new face milestones, annoy you?
Can't answer that as yes or no, because they don't, with the exception of one thread.

[Bobby]

Hmm fair enough. As a moderator of the White Padded room, I think that we should limit accomplishment threads to new face posting milestones. That is my opinion as a moderator, restricting it might be, but it will keep the forum just a little bit cleaner.

[redcar]

(edit, Francis already cleared up his answer to the question)

Alex, what do you think we should do? If we don't want new rules, and we don't want things unchanged, what do you think should happen?
If we, we being the general consensus of the site, don't want new rules then generally speaking they don't happen.

[MoveAlong]

which means that this thread has now been completely resolved?

[redcar]

which means that this thread has now been completely resolved?
Nothing is ever completly resolved. This topic will crop up again, like it has in the past and again debates will be made for either side and decisions will be made based on them, so no not completly resolved.

[MoveAlong]

Nothing is ever completly resolved. This topic will crop up again, like it has in the past and again debates will be made for either side and decisions will be made based on them, so no not completly resolved.

this is sounding much more mysterious than it really is 0.o the topic will crop up again, but what about this thread? Although it is not completely resolved, is it still open for discussion? or should it be left to rest for right now?

[redcar]

This thread will stay open and people can continue to discuss this till the end of time if they so wish.

[Antares]

The only thing about doing a thread that I have a problem with is that it will be kinda spammy I guess. It will just consist of "CONGRATZ!" and "YOUR GONNA BE AT 2500 IN NO TIME". So I guess it would be fine but it would just be a little pet peeve of mine that it will get SOO repetitive. So whatever I am in favor of your idea.

EDIT: Sorry I didnt realize this was so long ago

[Whisper]

Okay lets just castrate them all

TWPR's turning into the yaaay I'm a spammer forum

[MoveAlong]

Okay lets just castrate them all

what do you mean by that?

[Bobby]

Castrate means to deprive of the testies or ovaries (accorindg to Marriam-Webster).

And I agree Kodie. WPR is turning into spam haven - and it bugs me.

[MoveAlong]

I know what castrate means and also I asked cody. Sorry bobby.

[Techno Monster]

OK, I am now officially annoyed with the accomplishment threads, people should only post for face changes, of something REALLY important. If there is a problem with to many threads for accomplishments in TWPR, I will gladly create a sticky in my diary.

[Antares]

Well I have started posting all of my accomplishment threads and other things in my diary. So maybe we can make all the diary owners keep it in their diaries and then the others somewhere else.

OOH! maybe we should make a social group!
that way it wont affect post counts and then it wont be seen unless you want to see it.

[MrPinnick17]

I don't understand what it is. It says I've got 1 over here where it says my information but then under control panel or something I have 2 more, I never understood the concept of this.

[MoveAlong]

I don't understand what it is. It says I've got 1 over here where it says my information but then under control panel or something I have 2 more, I never understood the concept of this.

You don't understand what what is? Rep? Posts? Accomplishment threads?

[MrPinnick17]

Rep power.

[Bobby]

I suggest clicking the rather large link that says "What the heck's Rep Power?" in Flex's signature. Just an idea.

[MrPinnick17]

Yeah, I figured it out. Thanks.

[george]

OMG next accomplishment thread, who has the most threads O.O

[Whisper]

Guys back on topic!

What needs to happen is people need to show some common sense and restraint like we used to and only use threads like that for important events
not every five minutes

[george]

Well I say you should only let people make like post threads like I'm pretty sure in a day or two I'm going to make a "yay 1000 post thread" but I don't think people should do anything other than "i got so and so amount of posts"

[Whisper]

Why exactly does anyone feel the need to celebrate simple post accomplishments though
quantity is pointless its quality that matters
I have over 9thousand when was the last time I made a thread like that?
I just past my 4yr mark a few days ago


those don't matter
what counts is how you act
how you try to help

not LOOK AT ME LOOK AT ME I'VE SPAMMED EVERYWHERE TO GET A DIFFERENT FACE YAAAY


edit:

Like this is retarded

http://virtualteen.org/forums/showthread.php?t=26458

[MoveAlong]

Like this is retarded

http://virtualteen.org/forums/showthread.php?t=26458

like I said in my first post

One thing about Rep Power is that it can change 4 times in a week or so. In fact, that's what happened to me. It went up because I was here a year, then it went up because I got 400 rep points, and then again just yesterday when I reached 5,000 posts, and [edit] just now I got some more Rep and now I have 19 Rep Power when a week ago I had 15

hardly an "accomplishment"

[george]

But I like having a new face :( Finally gotten to how many posts I should have had before I that time that I stop going onto VT :( almost to 1000 :D

[MoveAlong]

I just past my 4yr mark a few days ago


those don't matter
what counts is how you act
how you try to help

I made a thread for you anyway. :)

[george]

Lol so Kodie, how do you feel about Zachs thread? :O

http://www.virtualteen.org/forums/showthread.php?t=26463

[-Silence]

A four year post I can understand, just because that is a really big accomplishment, especially when this place is only four years old. But it we follow Flex's idea that would also just go in that one sticky. In my opinion, the WPR would look much neater.

But like Cody said, VT is for helping others out when they are in need, so why spam to get a new face, or have a party when theirs new rep? In my opinion it's just shallow and selfish, which is not what VT is for.

[george]

And I agree that 4 years is a long time too. I think that Flex's idea of having a "stickied" thread for accomplishments is good but so then would it only be for reaching so many posts like on govteen or would we also be able to put rep accomplishments? Because govteen only has it for MAJOR posts but then they also don't have rep power on their sight.

[Underage_Thinker]

Some places have a separate section just for member accomplishments, but idk if their are enough members on this site to make that worthwhile.

[Aηdy]

I used my diary :)

[Sugaree]

Agreed with Andy. If you have a diary then you could use it for accomplishment posts.

[MoveAlong]

it we follow Flex's idea that would also just go in that one sticky

I think that Flex's idea of having a "stickied" thread for accomplishments is good

I didn't say that we should have a stickied thread. I said that we should have a bumped thread. I'm clarifying because you misquoted me.

[george]

I didn't say that we should have a stickied thread. I said that we should have a bumped thread. I'm clarifying because you misquoted me.
Well yea thats why I did the quotes to show that its "stickied". Wasn't trying to say that it should be stickied.