Debate Topic 1: By Jazbo

[Jazbo]

Ok, I hear a lot of prepositions and questions and think of a lot of questions about things. So I will disclose to you a topic/question, and see what everyone has to say about it. I have a real interesting one first:

Analyze this statement:
"There would be no more inequality if people would stop thinking themselves as 'special' or 'exempt' or having 'special needs' and indulging minorty directed programs."

Discuss. :idea:

[redcar]

oh i like this.....shite my minds not working......i'll come back to it tohugh....

[Hi i am jon]

HAHA like the first 3 times i read it i thought you ment like.....people in "special ed" i was like.....wtf?.....

but definitly!, i have always thought that, like BET, now if there was a WET (lol wet lol) it would be politicly incorrect, or things ment just for black people, like scholarships, thats just not fair if we all thought nothing of are diffrences everybody would be equal....
stuff like ESL classes are diffrent though, some people dont understand english and since there are many they should get that special thing just for them
......but black people are the same as anyone else and should have to share stuff with us, not get treated specially, i dont care what happened in the past!
i dont know who else gets special privleges execpt minoritys

[<-Dying_to_Live->]

inequality cannot be solved by people thinking differently

[Anonymous]

Not true at all. Inequality for example, black and whites, blacks tend to be less intelligent and less knowledgable. Their background truly makes them non-equivalent. Humans arent equal..that is bull shit. Humans should have the same rights, yes..but people are always going to be different and need to fall into an excepting society.

[Hi i am jon]

wait who ever said humans are equal, i ment have the same place in socitey, humans are far from equal look at a mentally retarded person and look at stephen hawkings....not equall.....

[Ravenous]

blacks tend to be less intelligent and less knowledgable. Their background truly makes them non-equivalent.
Fucking harsh man, Keep your racism out please.

[Whisper]

Not true at all. Inequality for example, black and whites, blacks tend to be less intelligent and less knowledgable. Their background truly makes them non-equivalent. Humans arent equal..that is bull shit. Humans should have the same rights, yes..but people are always going to be different and need to fall into an excepting society.

Austin fuck you!


You know VT has a zero tollerance on gay bashing
why dosent it have a zero tollerence on racisim?

[nwshc]

Not true at all. Inequality for example, black and whites, blacks tend to be less intelligent and less knowledgable. Their background truly makes them non-equivalent. Humans arent equal..that is bull shit. Humans should have the same rights, yes..but people are always going to be different and need to fall into an excepting society.
AH, THANK YOU!!!

[kolte]

indeed

[nwshc]

Not true at all. Inequality for example, black and whites, blacks tend to be less intelligent and less knowledgable. Their background truly makes them non-equivalent. Humans arent equal..that is bull shit. Humans should have the same rights, yes..but people are always going to be different and need to fall into an excepting society.

Austin fuck you!


You know VT has a zero tollerance on gay bashing
why dosent it have a zero tollerence on racisim?
Its not racism. Its truth. I guess a lot of people on here can not handle the truth.

[Whisper]

Like for instance why arent those three {.Swirling Blue. | nwshc | slavetosociety} ^ banned?
or at the very least frozen for a short time pending a second chance
Because what there doing is disgusting

If bashing gays on here is not allowed {I agree with that rule too}
Then why isnt racisim bashing against the rules aswell?


Nick yes it is racisim
if you can't even see that....god I dont even understand how someone could think like that

[nwshc]

Cody, seriously, stfu.
Stop playing the race card.

[Whisper]

NICK YOU THINK YOUR BETTER JUST BECAUE YOU HAVE A PALE ASS THATS RACIST SO WHY DON'T YOU GO FUCK YOURSELF

[nwshc]

You know what Cody, fuck you.

Here are some examples:

Racist statement- "That nigger can go fuck himself"
Racist statement- "Fucking niggers are taking over the world. We should hang them all"

Not Racist- "Statistics show black people are more likey to commite a crime than white people."
Not Racist- "Statistics show more blacks live under the poverty line than white people"
Not Racist- "Facts show that black people are less knowlegeble than white people"

So Cody, what have we learned? Ah, yes. Not to play the race card.

:)

[Anonymous]

ok, im not racist! blacks tend to be less knowledgable..etc. BECAUSE THEIR BACKGROUND IS DIFFERENT THAN OURS. Im not saying whites are better or worse, were differnt. blacks arent preppy and they vote democrat! Blacks also have great humor! I also have nothing against gays, im practically gay...get your facts straight!

[<-Dying_to_Live->]

the hardest thing to do is pick sides among the people you love.
:( sadly it has to be done though.


ok first off, .osdjfl;skjf



ok nick. showing statistics is different than saying all black people are stupid. you offered no proof whatsoever for that statement and then berated cody when he pointed out ur flaws. if you came up with some kind of graph or something that like compared SAT scores or STAR testing scores across nationalities... but really, that was a little racist. you cant just say black people are unintelligent, as if what white people are geniuses by default? i have a black friend named terrence. he gets better grades than i do. hes just as smart as all my other white friends :( you well at cody for playing the "race card" as billl oreilly likes to say, when really youve been dealing that card this whole thread. nick dont be mad at me i still loveyou :(

[nwshc]

Pft, dont say you love me tard. Im not going to hate you for disagreeing with me.

First
The whole point of my last point was to show that was austin said was BLATENTLY not rasict.
There is a difference between saying "Black people are less intellegent" and "Niggers are fucking stupid and will never get anywhere".
I consider the first to be non rasict, and the second to be rasict. If you don't agree with me, you can go fuck yourselves. In no way, shape or form would i deny a black person anything.

Second
I love bill orielly.

[kolte]

Like for instance why arent those three {.Swirling Blue. | nwshc | slavetosociety} ^ banned?
or at the very least frozen for a short time pending a second chance
Because what there doing is disgusting

If bashing gays on here is not allowed {I agree with that rule too}
Then why isnt racisim bashing against the rules aswell?


Nick yes it is racisim
if you can't even see that....god I dont even understand how someone could think like that


why should i be banned. I am one of the least racist people in world, and I'm bisexual. how could i be a gay basher or a racist. what did i say that was racist. I have never in my life been so horribly offended by a comment. I will never EVER say a racist comment. I cannot believe you would say that, I'm aw struck, omg how dare you! you sick bastard. Don't you dare call me racist, I cant believe you. UGH, I dont know what to even say, I'm struck with silence, And I'm going right to an administrator with this, I will not be called racist and do nothing. You have broken the bond of friendship that we shared, And I will never forgive you for saying that. AHH, so angry, I really cant stand that, please tell me that you misunderstood me. and to say I should be banned, good lord, thats just awful and for what, MY GOD ive lost my mind. I'm infuriated, why? why did you say that. Apologize to me! You hurt my feelings really bad, or can you not tell, I....I....I'm very hurt, offended, and aw struck. And I know I'm repeting myself a billion times, but really, Me racist...I just don't think you heard me right.....i dont even think its possible...I'm not even white, or really consider myself american, and were I'm from, there is not raceism...well, their is aginst palistine, but still, not i. i'm not racist and I will not tolerate such comments.

[Whisper]

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I said your name too for a simple reason
you agreed with nick
I couldnt yell at nick and austin and leave you alone
I couldnt single them out and leave you alone
that shows favoratisim

and it would have been unfair to austin and nick

[kolte]

Humans arent equal..that is bull shit. Humans should have the same rights, yes..but people are always going to be different and need to fall into an excepting society.

if you dont believe that, then you should die

[Whisper]

you should die

I realise that
Hell i've already tried
its not as simple as it sounds
the body dosent die as easily as i'd hoped :?
hell i've even tried for blood posioning but noooo, even the scar was gone within 6months
jesus


Humans are equal!
If given the same opertunitys they are!

you cant single out all the blacks and consider them below you if you do think that then you ARE racist

I have a black girl in my school
shes been on the honor role her entire life and she is sooooooo sweet

I know shes smarter then me and chances are shes smarter then you
so how exactly are you "better" then her?

Explain to me why you think its okay to consider an entire people below you and not be racist?

[kolte]

read what i have said. did ~I~ ever say blacks didnt deserve the same oppritunites, did i ever say that blacks arent smarter then whites. NONONONONONONONONONONONONONONONONONONONO, I never, in my life, would say that, because its not true. If you fuck with my words again, and make me sound racist, I will be so so so very angry. GOD himself said that people wernt eqal, read your presious bible. And if you don't believe people arent equal, then how do you explain this: MENTALY CHALLENGED, SHIZO'S, Any minoity. Should all people get the same oppritunities YESYESYESYESYES, are all people equal NONONONONONONONO, how hard do I have to beat it into your head. LORD, you are so fuking dense.

[Whisper]

Calm down :roll:
I can't believe your having a temper tantrum, honestly how old are you?

I'm not twisting your words I’m seeing them for exactly what they are

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Lets take a closer look at what you've agreed upon shall we.
Not true at all. Inequality for example, black and whites, blacks tend to be less intelligent and less knowledgeable. Their background truly makes them non-equivalent. Humans aren’t equal. That’s bull shit. Humans should have the same rights, yes...but people are always going to be different and need to fall into an excepting society.
AH, THANK YOU!!!


"blacks tend to be less intelligent and less knowledgeable. Their background truly makes them non-equivalent."

hmmmm sounds to me like Austin has singled out all blacks and said that there less intelligent then whites, not only has he done this BUT he has done it with zero proof. How does your skin color dictate your intelligence? "their background" I'm not even sure what he means by that...I'm guessing he's saying that there all poor which isn’t true at all the girl I know comes from an extremely rich family and has the best that money can buy her as per opportunities for her future.


And if you don't believe people arent equal, then how do you explain this: MENTALY CHALLENGED, SHIZO'S, Any minoity. Should all people get the same oppritunities YESYESYESYESYES, are all people equal NONONONONONONONO,

Yes I agree everybody deserves the same opertunitys

BUT your telling me that Josh is below you because he's a Schizo....hmmm your right i do strongly disagree with you there is Josh diffrent? yes but he is still equal!!! Just look around, look at VT at what Josh has done, the thousand of teens he's helped.
I think Josh is very bright
and I have allot of respect for him
Why do you belive hes not an equal

oh and you still havent answered my last question

[<-Dying_to_Live->]

Like for instance why arent those three {.Swirling Blue. | nwshc | slavetosociety} ^ banned?
or at the very least frozen for a short time pending a second chance
Because what there doing is disgusting

If bashing gays on here is not allowed {I agree with that rule too}
Then why isnt racisim bashing against the rules aswell?


Nick yes it is racisim
if you can't even see that....god I dont even understand how someone could think like that


why should i be banned. I am one of the least racist people in world, and I'm bisexual. how could i be a gay basher or a racist. what did i say that was racist. I have never in my life been so horribly offended by a comment. I will never EVER say a racist comment. I cannot believe you would say that, I'm aw struck, omg how dare you! you sick bastard. Don't you dare call me racist, I cant believe you. UGH, I dont know what to even say, I'm struck with silence, And I'm going right to an administrator with this, I will not be called racist and do nothing. You have broken the bond of friendship that we shared, And I will never forgive you for saying that. AHH, so angry, I really cant stand that, please tell me that you misunderstood me. and to say I should be banned, good lord, thats just awful and for what, MY GOD ive lost my mind. I'm infuriated, why? why did you say that. Apologize to me! You hurt my feelings really bad, or can you not tell, I....I....I'm very hurt, offended, and aw struck. And I know I'm repeting myself a billion times, but really, Me racist...I just don't think you heard me right.....i dont even think its possible...I'm not even white, or really consider myself american, and were I'm from, there is not raceism...well, their is aginst palistine, but still, not i. i'm not racist and I will not tolerate such comments.

wow someone fucking forgot their tampons today :rollseyes and snickers:

[<-Dying_to_Live->]

racism

n 1: the prejudice that members of one race are intrinsically superior to members of other races


austin said "blacks tend to be less intelligent and less knowledgeable"

othello agreed. you said that black people are less intelligent--black people as a whole, as a race, are less intelligent than white people. youre agreeing that white people are smarter, and thus superior, to black people. based on the definitions of english, your a racist asshole go to hell. nothing you can say will ever pardon you from the fact that you said BLACK PEOPLE ARE STUPID BECAUSE THEY ARE BLACK. youre evil

[Hi i am jon]

haha calm down every one its a debate dont take it so seriously, some people are racist thats the way they choose to be, if you are going to get all gr about it thats like some one getting gr at some one for being gay......i used to be racist but then i realized it wasn't all the people who were doing it.....just a certain area of people ......my dad was racist, so i always thought what he thought, but times have changed........its not true black people commit more crimes, it just matters the areas..........if you go to a poor white neighboorhood and a poor black neighboorhood you dont know which would commit more crimes.....all that depends on the situation and how the person was raised, ok a lot of black people are racist (becasue they heard there parents talk about how bad it was) and they try to bring their kids up racist.......then white people get mad....then its a giant web of hate lol.........

[kolte]

I really don't believe you. You still think I'm racist. I'm crushed. I said indeed....indeed, to a small portion, of a factual statement. that stated that people arent equal. if i said all people are different would you jump my case then. I think that, in america, because the majority of the citizens are white bastards, they have dictated blacks, and, because of racism, have forced them into poverty. Because the majority of blacks are in poverty they have been forced to commit more crimes to make ends meet, thus, being tossed into jail, by the white man, because he is racist. And then, once again because of black being forced into poverty, they will have suffered a lower education. Are whites better then blacks in any way whatsoevery. no. Are they equal....It doesnt take a rocket scientist to figure that one out. should they be given the same oppritunities, yes, they should. But as long as the majority of the population remains evil white racist, I fear that they never will. I grew up in San Antonio Tx, its my homeland, And I went to a very diverse school from the time I was very little. Hispanics, blacks, whites, asians, they all found refuge their. Was their racism in the school, your damn right their was, but it really wasnt the older students being racist, it was all the new students that were racits. Why? because all the old didnt know that the world thought higher or lower then them. At that point in time, they were the same, and it was beutiful. But when my parents split and I moved to Arkansas, my god, it was like a whole new world. People hated me, cuz I looked slightly arab, or as they would say, a bener. And I wasnt, but if I corrected them and Said I was fromt the middle east they would freak, so I said I was Jewish, and good lord, 1000's of isolated babtists could not fit it in their head that I didnt believe in Jesus. Ugh. But Now I'm In Austin TX, and the diversity and acceptance it back. And If ive learnd one thing its that Even though I wish that all races were considerd equal, and everyone was treated with the same respect, It will never be like that here, in america. Just because you black, arab, white, asian, hispanic. That makes you no less of a man or woman then the next. Are you different, of course you are, thats what makes you you. Are you equal, sadly no, your not considered that here in america, the land of the equal rights, and all men are created equal. You just cant say your equl because you wanna be, you have to look at the facts. Despite you lust for equlity, you fail to reolize that all men are not created equal no matter how much you want them to be. But you white, its easy for you to say I'm equal, of course you are, but try being one of the most hated nationinatils in america, you thoughts of equality are greatly shattered.