Repping PMs

[Underage_Thinker]

I was just thinking it could be useful if people could rep pms. Then if somebody helps you privatively they get the same recognition. IDK if its possible, but just thought id suggest.

*edit*
Wups i just noticed i posted this in VT HQ

[thesphinx]

Hmm that's an interesting idea, although I doubt it will be implemented, still interesting.

[MoveAlong]

This is not a fair proposition as Rep should be left up to the entire community to decide, just as it's been set up: you can only Rep posts on a public forum, where everyone has the opportunity to give their opinion on a post. It should NEVER be limited for one person to be able to decide and modify. Rep is public.

Also, the Reputation system is for the sole purpose of posts and nothing else.
This is why announcements, blog posts, private messages, and social group messages do not have a Reputation button on them.

This can also lead to Reputation abuse, because two people may Rep each other for bad reasons privately, and then delete the evidence. Rep shouldn't have to be monitored this closely.

Also I believe it is not possible without some significant work, which this just isn't the time for a bunch of suggestions, because of the upgrades.

However, you can thank the person with a nice full-hearted message, rather than giving them Rep. And that can be a lot more personal and mean a lot more! :)

[iJack]

This is why announcements, blog posts, private messages, and social group messages do not have a Reputation button on them.

I thing blog entries should be included.

I see where you are coming from, but i dont think it will happen.

[MoveAlong]

I thing blog entries should be included.

If anything, blog entires and posts should be encompassed in the Rep System.
However, Private Messages are between two members, while the point of the Rep System is to be subjective to any and all members, not two members!

[Underage_Thinker]

the point of the rep system is to reward members for making useful or insiteful posts, so why could the system not be expanded to useful or insiteful privet messages. Just because it is betweeen two members dosn't mean somebody isn't being helpful. Plus with the way our rep system is set up i don't see how it would be abused any more than a regular post. Even when you rep somebodies post now its not as if you collaborate or vote on whether or not to rep them, so it is still just between two members in that aspect.

[Kiros]

I thing blog entries should be included.

I see where you are coming from, but i dont think it will happen.

Blogging is usually for personal matters, while posting is community interaction. That's why blogs are not included in the Reputation System. Only posts can use reputation and changing that to include anything else would mean a lot of editing - because it's not a simple option in the settings.

[MoveAlong]

Blogging is usually for personal matters, while posting is community interaction. That's why blogs are not included in the Reputation System. Only posts can use reputation and changing that to include anything else would mean a lot of editing - because it's not a simple option in the settings.

this basically sums it up. Posts are a community interaction, while PMs are private. Rep is made for the community to decide.

the point of the rep system is to reward members for making useful or insiteful posts, so why could the system not be expanded to useful or insiteful privet messages.

Just because something is helpful doesn't mean it should be encompassed in the Reputation System.

Plus with the way our rep system is set up i don't see how it would be abused any more than a regular post.

Yes, it could. If we were allowed to Rep PMs, friends or groups could exchange Rep silently, for reasons I don't know why, Rep is just a number. This also includes the disagreement of whether we can delete our own posts or not. We can't delete our posts, so we cannot get rid of the evidence without editing, and editing leaves a message that the post has been modified, thus leaving evidence.

With PMs, one person could give Rep and then completely delete the PM. The evidence would be lost and it would be harder for Rep to be fair.

I understand that the Rep System is probably abused on a daily basis. But at least we're not expanding that opportunity. And all we can do to limit the abuse is encourage members to use the Rep System wisely, and encourange them to report something if they think that Rep is being abused.


I do not see anything that means more to a member for helping out than a thank you or a heartfelt message explaining how they helped you. Rep is not a reward, because it is far from official and subjective to other's opinions. Now you are putting a price tag on advice, instead of it really meaning something.

[Maverick]

Moved to suggestions.

[Kiros]

Just as Zach pointed out previously, if the Reputation System was enabled for private messages, then there would be major abuse of the feature (instead of the medium abuse that is going on right now).

[Bobby]

Oh, Ant you lighten up a thread!
:P

Anyway, I don't see this as useful. I think that it would be more up for abuse than the regular rep system.
(which was stated by Kiros meer seconds before I posted)

[Sugaree]

Well It would be a great idea. I mean, it would stop people from posting useless stuff just to get rep and stop the spam.

[MoveAlong]

it would stop people from posting useless stuff just to get rep and stop the spam.

What? How it is stopping spam? He's not saying that it should be changed from posts to PMs. He's suggesting that we also include PMs in the Rep System, not stop posts from being Repped.

[Bobby]

Well It would be a great idea. I mean, it would stop people from posting useless stuff just to get rep and stop the spam.

Oh so instead of begging for rep through posting...people could give out random rep for PMs!

[Sugaree]

What? How it is stopping spam? He's not saying that it should be changed from posts to PMs. He's suggesting that we also include PMs in the Rep System, not stop posts from being Repped.

:roll: let me explain

What I'm saying is, is that we have so many people saying how they got a certain number of post (myself included) and got a certain rep amount )myself included also on this one) that if we are able to spread rep through PMs it will make all of these stupid and silly threads go down, at least by just a small percent.

But we need guidlines for this. Like when someone PMs us when we PM them if we need help. But we can't constantly give rep. We need something like for post. We must spread it around until we give rep to the same person again.

[Maverick]

PMs are private so there wouldn't be any way to track any kind of abuse without breaching the privacy of private messages on a large scale.

[-Silence]

:roll: let me explain

What I'm saying is, is that we have so many people saying how they got a certain number of post (myself included) and got a certain rep amount )myself included also on this one) that if we are able to spread rep through PMs it will make all of these stupid and silly threads go down, at least by just a small percent.

I don't quite understand, how would being able to rep PM's be able to do that?

I would think that the amount of posts like that would go up because people would be getting more rep faster.

Sorry, I just don't understand.

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Anyways, on the idea, I disagree, because of the obvious, it would get abused.

[The Batman]

I'm sorry but I really disagree with this because pm's are private and when you give rep it is usually for a post that can help not only the OP but many other members, and it would be strange for someone's rep power to go up exponentially because they sent some pm's that the recipant thought was good and the rest of us wouldn't even be able to see it and judge for ourselves.