the j.o.b. of a m.o.d.

[kolte]

Moderator: One that arbitrates or mediates.

But does that really difine what a mod is. I find myself asking, who really runs VT fequently throughout the day. I read and re read constant bickering between members. And I see noob after noom shattering the rules of our online community. A moderators real job is to keep the site running smoothly, and lax the labor of the administration. But when the administration refuses to allow the mod's to productivly do their job, what is the point of a mod? Does their job really affect the way VT runs? The answer is simple, and please allow me to dish it out.

All good things come to an end, all civilization's crumble all food is consumed. But why? Why must all things come to an end? It is becasuse of the how good things are run. Every few days I hear the all to frequent " I miss the old VT " And it pains me because I never knew It. But what I do know is that, when an administration fails to trust its staff, there will be only havoc. I know that mod rights have been abused before, but allowing confusion, and disorder is not the way to solve our problems. I think that, to keep the "good" of our site, to keep it a place were people enjoy the company of our members, it would only be in the sites best intrest to allow the mods to have thier responsibilites returned to them.

The the answer to the question "does their job really affect the way VT runs" is no. Not unless they are allowed to DO their jobs. So my suggestion is......Would the administration allow the mods to delete posts in the forms they mod?

[nwshc]

They should, and globals should be allowed to ban.
Heather is on a hella lot more than Josh and Triple7. She sees what goes on here. Give her the power to ban and this place will get nice and spiffy.

[redcar]

They should, and globals should be allowed to ban.
Heather is on a hella lot more than Josh and Triple7. She sees what goes on here, and I'm sorry to say, but josh you are clueless. Give her the power to ban and this place will get nice and spiffy.


thats a bit harsh isnt it? but i think mods should be allowed delete

[nwshc]

edit

[redcar]

yea but still to call someone clueless isnt the nicest of things to do like i know i wouldnt appreciate someone calling me clueless

[nwshc]

Well, you already quoted it. If i change it, its still in your quote.

[redcar]

you r missing my point all i am saying is its not nice to call someone clueless

[nwshc]

ok...

[Ravenous]

I agree, mods should be able to delete posts from their forums, Also I think G-mods should be able to freeze but not ban. Nick is right about heather, she is definately trustworthy and should be given that option so she can use it if she sees fit (and doug when he rarely comes on)

[AC.wAkeBoArDin.06]

Josh if ne thing... u know how mods have that X out thing by the post.... it doesnt work no more... can u at least make that a move to the recycle bin? it would be a lot ezier.... but i think in general... we should be able to delete things... because some things might need imediate deletion for the viewing purposes... like naked images or something... and if its still in the trash... people can see it.... untill u delete it

[Anonymous]

My opinon:

Global mods: should be able to delete posts in all forums.

Mods: Can delete posts too.

I say this because. You have to move it to the recycle bin. So you can kinda already delete things. Sarah could have just moved all my stuff and I wouldnt have gotten it back because i can move things in that forum. so it wouldnt have mattered!!!!! So save the hassle and let the mods delete post.

Oh, and josh is suppose to be clueless. He just makes sure there isnt any porn, violence, etc. He shouldnt know anyone's personal life. that is for kiros. josh is doing a fine job. He has a life. unlike the majority of us.

[Triple7]

Sarah could have just moved all my stuff and I wouldnt have gotten it back because i can move things in that forum. so it wouldnt have mattered!!!!!

You would have gotten them back. The posts would have stayed in the forum, and a global mod or admin could have mass moved them back, and your request that I received through PM was carried out.

[Anonymous]

ahhhhhhhhhhh mods have to move it there to be deleted! just let mods click the x.

[kevin]

why is that a big deal, it's one more step.

[Anonymous]

Why is it a big deal to RID of one step?

[kolte]

yes but the absense isnt helping anything. if a mod wished to reak havok, they could edit and delete everything.

[Anonymous]

Thats why we dont pick idiots for mods.

Heather- She would NEVER do anything like that!!!
Adam-Couldnt be mean if he wanted to. (Thats a good thing adam.)
kevin-Nope
All those diary owners..-Its their diaries! I shouldnt have chosen sarah as mod.
dante-no
patch-loves vt too much.
the end.

[Whisper]

Thats why we dont pick idiots for mods.

Heather- She would NEVER do anything like that!!!
Adam-Couldnt be mean if he wanted to. (Thats a good thing adam.)
kevin-Nope
All those diary owners..-Its their diaries! I shouldnt have chosen sarah as mod.
dante-no
patch-loves vt too much.
the end.

Agreed!

[kolte]

here here

[TheWizard]

Ok I'm looking in to the situation with the admins and gobal mods. I want their opinion on this important decision.

[kolte]

yay, their looking at it

[Φρανκομβριτ]

yay! I also agree with g-mods freezing. That way Josh will be able to review the situation before making a drastic action.

[TheWizard]

I have been watching it from the start.

[Kiros]

yay! I also agree with g-mods freezing. That way Josh will be able to review the situation before making a drastic action.

Yes, that would solve some cases, and would allow an Admin to look it over, and it would also be quite affective, buuut I think that would require access to the Admin Control Panel (unless there's a MOD), so I'm not sure it's possible for GMods to be able to freeze people. If it is possible, I'd be for it. That would give like 5 people (admins + global mods) freezing capabilities and 2 people (admins) banning capabilities in a community of some 2900+ members... It would be a greater defense against attacks too.

Eh, but that's only if it's possible :P

[Ravenous]

I don't think you can do it without AdminCP access but yeah like you said theres probably a mod somewhere. I'm for it! :)

[<-Dying_to_Live->]

look heres the thing. nobody around here has any accountability. whenever a mod does something theres no way of anyone else knowing. if dante were to edit one of my posts saying "fuck you josh go to hell" he would get me banned and that wouldnt be fair. honestly, think of how EASY it would be for any mod to get someone banned by changing their posts. there has to be a way where we can see what the mods have done

[nwshc]

Doesnt it usualy say "edited by so and so on so and so date"?

[Anonymous]

sometimes...sometimes not.

[kolte]

true, I've noticed that somtimes it does not.

[nwshc]

if you edit your post within 5 min, it doesnt say anything i think. After 5 min, it says "edited by blah blah blah"

[kolte]

oic

[<-Dying_to_Live->]

it needs to say that whenever mods edit posts

[kevin]

Why, I thought trusting moderators was the trouble with all of this.

[<-Dying_to_Live->]

it is... i think. really im confused i dunno what this topic is about lol

[kolte]

Why, I thought trusting moderators was the trouble with all of this.

it is basiclly about trusting who you hire. If you don't trust 'em, don't hire them.

[Kiros]

If a mod EDITS a post, then it will record that and show it at the bottom of the post, but if a mod just ADDS on to the post (which is a lesser extent of editing), then it will not record it as editting.

For instance, if this situation took place:

- Original post:
~~~~~~~~~~~~~
I love everyone!

- Editted post:
~~~~~~~~~~~~~
I HATE everyone!

Then it would say that it was editted by whoever did it. Though if this situation took place:

- Original post:
~~~~~~~~~~~~
I love everyone!

- Editted post:
~~~~~~~~~~~~
I love everyone!

But I hate everything else!

Then it would not say it was editted. This has advantages, this has disadvantages. And usually, if a mod edits a post, then they will say so themselves.

This is what I've come to notice anyway... I could be mistaken though :?

[<-Dying_to_Live->]

ya a good mod will say so, but often they forget or just dont. besides its better if its logged with a timestamp so everyone can see

[Dante]

I think mods should be able to delete again, I dont understand why it was taken away in the 1st place...If it wa sbecause of the incident with sarah taht doesnt make sense, cuz when it happened we could have still deleted.

I havent abused my modding privelrages, neither has Patch, or adam, or heather, or james, or whoever else is a mod. So for us not being able to delete anymore, it makes no sense. hell we cant even delete our posts.

and Another thing, I believe that regular mods should be included in some of the things that goes on here on this site, since we help run it.

[<-Dying_to_Live->]

i agree. if the admins dont trust the mods to do ANYTHING then why the fuck do we have them in the firstplace?

[TheWizard]

I think we need to make some changes but I'm not sure we can separate admin functions to allow gpbal mods to freeze or ban people. Thatd up to 777.