Spending of the budget

[kolte]

Does it bother anyone besides myself that the american defecet is at a record breaking low? I mean, we have never had such a embarassing defecet. I know allot has happend in this administration, but the fact of the matter is, we don't have money to spend. I think that we should concentrate our money into more profitable things. Like agiculture, one of our main exports, as well as many other things. We need to stop spending money on NASA, our millitary, and oil scandles and concentrate our funding on bettering our nation. I'm tired of the United States funding oil companies. Aren't you. Its ridiculas. Sombody needs to do somthing. Sombody needs to take charge.

[redcar]

as an outsider i think that you americans spending a ridiculous amount of money on nasa, when you have fuck all money, to do a couple of experiments and look at the stars is shocking. u need to get your priorities in order. and wanting to go to mars? wats the point of that now, it will cost billions upon billions to go and have a look around, pointless, when there is so much more the money could be spent on.

[nwshc]

I totaly agree. They should scarap NASA right now. It is useless. But the only way we will beable to dig ourselves out of the difficit is if we switch to Hydrogen or something. Importing all of this oil is killing us, i agree. We should become a pretty independent county. Once we do, we will be WAY better off.
No matter what anyone says, they SHOULD raise taxes.

[kolte]

here here thats why I'm gonna vote democrat

[nwshc]

But the thing is it will take us a hella long time to build up the publics trust, and our infrastructure inorder to use Hydrogen. But right now, this is our main concern. As soon as we stop importing oil, we will be on our way to better success.
I really don't care if the person is Democrat or Replican or Independent. If he has a solid image for America, and if i feel that he will do a good job, I will vote for him.

[Whisper]

Does it bother anyone besides myself that the american defecet is at a record breaking low? I mean, we have never had such a embarassing defecet. I know allot has happend in this administration, but the fact of the matter is, we don't have money to spend. I think that we should concentrate our money into more profitable things. Like agiculture, one of our main exports, as well as many other things. We need to stop spending money on NASA, our millitary, and oil scandles and concentrate our funding on bettering our nation. I'm tired of the United States funding oil companies. Aren't you. Its ridiculas. Sombody needs to do somthing. Sombody needs to take charge.


Wait.....so you wanna spend a few bill on a mag lift but now your all pissed about the deficit

[Anonymous]

why wont george bush take charge? :idea:

[kolte]

george bush is not at fault. congress should put some bills in to make changes. all he can do is sign if he want's it or not. I think that we put too much thought in the prez, when its congress that runs the government.

And yes, a monorail would be a good investment. I think it would he us to move goods from outer lying cities to ports in the gulf, pacific, bay area, and east cost. It would be an all around money maker. If we had more exported items, and less importing crap we don't use, then we would make more money, pulling us out of debt.

[Whisper]

george bush is not at fault. congress should put some bills in to make changes. all he can do is sign if he want's it or not. I think that we put too much thought in the prez, when its congress that runs the government.

And yes, a monorail would be a good investment. I think it would he us to move goods from outer lying cities to ports in the gulf, pacific, bay area, and east cost. It would be an all around money maker. If we had more exported items, and less importing crap we don't use, then we would make more money, pulling us out of debt.

I agree the mag rail could make u sum money.

But then why are you so set on getting rid of NASA?

NASA is costing you money right NOW just like it will cost you money to build and maintin mag rails.

See the next big thing for humanity is space or more spicifically our lil solar system.
There are HUGE rescourses in space and i mean HUGE, gold, silver, platinum, hydrogen they even belive the moon Titan is all water (top is covered in the thickest ice imaginable below what we belive to be the biggest ocean in the solar system).

Not to mention planetary defence
did you know that a meteor big enough to destroy (and i mean DESTROY) rode Island came EXTREMLY close to earth and i mean EXTREMLY we had no idea it was commingdidn't see it untill it entered earths shadow when it was shooting away from us.
So not only could this obliterat an entire state/country/continent but the dust it would shoot into the atmosphere would cool earths temperature for yrs to come not to mention the crops and other vegetation that would dive off.

NASA is at the fore front
yes there are other space organizations but NASA is the biggest and the strongest and if they do it right america could make billions and billions.

Only an incompitent fool would think that all there problems will be solved by shutting down one of the best things there country has going for them.

What Bush has done for NASA has to be the only thing i like about him.

[nwshc]

pft, planetary defence. What a crook of shit.

Ok, right now we haven't made it past the moon, and your thinking about extracting gold, silver, hydrogen from a moon millions of miles away? We have the biggest sorce of hydrogen right here in our own oceans. The earth is 75% water (i believe) and there is plenty of hydrogen floating around just waiting to be harnessed.
Also, there is enough gold floating around in the ocean (in little particles) that if all collected will equal 10-20 million lbs.
We can not do anything to protect our planet from a meteor. What are we going to do, an Arrmegedon style exicution? Hardly. All we will have to do is sit back and wait.
It can make us billions and billions, but right now it's probably costing us billions and billions.
NASA should be scraped. Its useless. Or atlest till we have the means to support it.

[kolte]

as well, what are we doing trying to manage space when we can not even manage our on planet.

[Whisper]

pft, planetary defence. What a crook of shit.

Ok, right now we haven't made it past the moon, and your thinking about extracting gold, silver, hydrogen from a moon millions of miles away? We have the biggest sorce of hydrogen right here in our own oceans. The earth is 75% water (i believe) and there is plenty of hydrogen floating around just waiting to be harnessed.
Also, there is enough gold floating around in the ocean (in little particles) that if all collected will equal 10-20 million lbs.
We can not do anything to protect our planet from a meteor. What are we going to do, an Arrmegedon style exicution? Hardly. All we will have to do is sit back and wait.
It can make us billions and billions, but right now it's probably costing us billions and billions.
NASA should be scraped. Its useless. Or atlest till we have the means to support it.

Nick u dumb fuck you obivously know jack shit about the solar system so why dont you gather some fucking facts and THEN argue!

NOW first off Titan has no gold, silver or platinum u albino jackass its ice and water aka oxygen and hydrogen.
Other planets and astroids contain the rare metals.

THE PROBLEM IS NOT THE DISTANCE!
Its not far enough for that to be a MOJOR issue

Right now once a ship has left our planet it can be at mars in a mater of months
The real problem is getting it out of the atmosphere and the gravitational forces of earth!
Once you have a space station and a station on say the moon it would be easy to construct a huge ship that would not have to battle the atmosphere and gravity of earth.

As for planetary defence it is entirely possible! and NOT a big bomb yes I know you americans like your nukes but that would not be the answer if anything it would make matters worse, instead of one astroid that would say slam into america and do the rest of the planet a favor it would instead turn into millions of small ones bombarding the entire surface.

What you need are simple solar sails you have a satalite land on an astroid drill into it and extend sails slowly altering its path it dosent need to move much an inch over a few million miles is a HUGE distance NASA is already looking into those they've been proven in models to work.

Now in all honesty I don't even give a dam
Your country is the one with the extremly embarassing dept
Your country has the 6yr old kids taking guns to school
Your country is the focus of the terrorists because they despise u and i cant say i blaim them

I find it funny how the pentagon just created a formal plan where they get to nuke other countrys like russia for example befor russia hits you I belive cowards refur to it as a preumptive strike. Yet your to incompitent to see that if you control space then you control the political and economical battle feild on earth cause lets face it all everybody cares about is whats in it for me aka politics and MONEY (economy)
rap even though WE give YOU access to major natural rescourses.

Now I dont give a piss about humanity
I don't plan on living long
Most my fam is already dead
I'm not getting married and i'm not gonna have kids
So it dosent fucking matter to me
Do what you wish
xXx

[nwshc]

NOW first off Titan has no gold, silver or platinum u albino jackass its ice and water aka oxygen and hydrogen.
Other planets and astroids contain the rare metals.
I was not talking about Titan spesificly. I was talking about space and planets in general.

Right now once a ship has left our planet it can be at mars in a mater of months
The real problem is getting it out of the atmosphere and the gravitational forces of earth!
Once you have a space station and a station on say the moon it would be easy to construct a huge ship that would not have to battle the atmosphere and gravity of earth.
Months. Whats would the cost to gain ratio for something that will take months? Does not seem like it would be a lot to me.

As for planetary defence it is entirely possible! and NOT a big bomb yes I know you americans like your nukes but that would not be the answer if anything it would make matters worse, instead of one astroid that would say slam into america and do the rest of the planet a favor it would instead turn into millions of small ones bombarding the entire surface.
If NASA is the only solution as you say, then it wouldn't be doing everyone a favor if America was gone.


What you need are simple solar sails you have a satalite land on an astroid drill into it and extend sails slowly altering its path it dosent need to move much an inch over a few million miles is a HUGE distance NASA is already looking into those they've been proven in models to work.
Sounds really simple. Do you know how long it will take to write software so perfect and so precise that it will do this job flawlessly? It takes years. Then the trials to debug it, and there will be problems.

Now in all honesty I don't even give a dam
Your country is the one with the extremly embarassing dept
Your country has the 6yr old kids taking guns to school
Your country is the focus of the terrorists because they despise u and i cant say i blaim them
...which has nothing to do with the topic...

I find it funny how the pentagon just created a formal plan where they get to nuke other countrys like russia for example befor russia hits you I belive cowards refur to it as a preumptive strike. Yet your to incompitent to see that if you control space then you control the political and economical battle feild on earth cause lets face it all everybody cares about is whats in it for me aka politics and MONEY (economy)
rap even though WE give YOU access to major natural rescourses.
Ok, Russia, or for that matter, no one would try and nuke, or even send a fire cracker at us. Becuase they know if they do, we will basicly blow their country out of the earth.
The control of space right now is an irrational thought. It is all science fiction novel material. Maybe in another 100 years this will be feasible, but not now.
Now I dont give a piss about humanity
I don't plan on living long
Most my fam is already dead
I'm not getting married and i'm not gonna have kids
So it dosent fucking matter to me
Do what you wish
I'm sorry to hear that.

[<-Dying_to_Live->]

dude nasa kicks ass. anyone who thinks nasa spending should be cut is stupid. humans need to explore and gather information about the universe around them--if we didnt eveyrone would be religious (bad thing).

http://img66.imageshack.us/img66/875/small7ki.jpg

America is pioneering the advances in technology and human endeavor and i definately support that. sorry nick :(

[nwshc]

dude nasa kicks ass. anyone who thinks nasa spending should be cut is stupid. humans need to explore and gather information about the universe around them--if we didnt eveyrone would be religious (bad thing)

I also think it is sad that we know more about the solar system than we do about our own oceans.

[<-Dying_to_Live->]

how do you figure that? i think u meant we know more about space than we do the inside of our own planet, and thats because noone knows how to get down there

[serial-thrilla]

dude nasa kicks ass. anyone who thinks nasa spending should be cut is stupid. humans need to explore and gather information about the universe around them--if we didnt eveyrone would be religious (bad thing).

http://img66.imageshack.us/img66/875/small7ki.jpg

America is pioneering the advances in technology and human endeavor and i definately support that. sorry nick :( waste of money

[nwshc]

how do you figure that? i think u meant we know more about space than we do the inside of our own planet, and thats because noone knows how to get down there
Yes, thats what I ment. Good job.
To go in the ocean, you don't need fancy rockets, complex software and hardware, highly trained personell etc.
Thats why i think its sad. The ocean is so easily reached and able to be explored, yet no one has done it.

[<-Dying_to_Live->]

and yet who the fuk gives a shit about the ocean we can explore it whenever we want!!! its on planet earth already you dope!!! it doesnt have priority because A) its already 'conqured' and B) learning more about the ocean (what more needs to be known?) doesnt help the future of human kind in anyway near the amount of going into space

[nwshc]

and yet who the fuk gives a shit about the ocean we can explore it whenever we want!!! its on planet earth already you dope!!! it doesnt have priority because A) its already 'conqured' and B) learning more about the ocean (what more needs to be known?) doesnt help the future of human kind in anyway near the amount of going into space
Well what the fuck needs to be known about space?! Its big, its black, its empty. Who the fuck cares. No one cares about the moon any more. No one cares about the planets in the suns orbit, no one cares. I certainly don't. Yet we have undiscovered plants and animals, and gold and fuel just right infront of our eyes, and no one sees it.

[<-Dying_to_Live->]

dude nasa kicks ass. anyone who thinks nasa spending should be cut is stupid. humans need to explore and gather information about the universe around them--if we didnt eveyrone would be religious (bad thing).

http://img66.imageshack.us/img66/875/small7ki.jpg

America is pioneering the advances in technology and human endeavor and i definately support that. sorry nick :( waste of money

nasa only gets 9.6 billion dollars a year. believe me when our country needs to spend money weel find it. were spending a billion dollars A DAY on katrina, and the money is there. we just signed like 60 billion dollars for the relief effort and noone even flinched. believe me, we got money and none of it needs to be diverted from nasa

[nwshc]

So is helping out people that have had their homes destroyed and lives ruined a waste of money, adn it needs to go to NASA? I think not.

[<-Dying_to_Live->]

dude did i say that? nope :)

[nwshc]

nasa only gets 9.6 billion dollars a year
were spending a billion dollars A DAY on katrina, and the money is there. we just signed like 60 billion dollars for the relief effort and noone even flinched.

dude did i say that? nope
Sounds like you imply it with out saying it.
Night

[<-Dying_to_Live->]

not really i was using the katrina example to show how easily we spend money, and how much money we have to spend. no where did i say that nasa is more important than people dying. damn i would never say something like that and you konw it

[kolte]

I think that your wrong to presume that the ocean has no secrests to better mankind. If you study somthing you will find many interesting things about it. Thats why nasa, though i think we invest too much in it, is a good thing as well as ocean exploration.

[<-Dying_to_Live->]

dude theres a billion marine biologists who can study the ocean whenever the fuck they want. hell i only have to drive half hour and BAM THERES THE OCEAN!!! in space you might get to fly up 1nce or 2wice a year. its so much harder and requires so much more engineering that its more special and the results found are more valuable than just taking a rowboat into the bay

[Whisper]

I think that your wrong to presume that the ocean has no secrests to better mankind. If you study somthing you will find many interesting things about it. Thats why nasa, though i think we invest too much in it, is a good thing as well as ocean exploration.

I agree they both need to be explored
But they do NOT spend to much money on NASA


I love the ocean
The best memorys i have throughout my entire life are on the open water of the pacific

I LOVE Kilo Moana

NASA kicks ass
Space needs to be explored
The only reason humanitys still alive is because we travel
THAT is how we survived the "great squeeze" back when humanity was still very young and allot of other sub species died off while Homo Sapians survived

[nwshc]

not really i was using the katrina example to show how easily we spend money, and how much money we have to spend. no where did i say that nasa is more important than people dying. damn i would never say something like that and you konw it
The money going to Katrina was for a noble cause. Something that NEEDED to be done. Yes we have money to spend, but should we spend it on frivolous entities like exploring space? What that money should go to is education. To build up the High school and better equip them with the newest technology so the next graduating students can grow in the workforce. The money should go to getting more books, more computers, more desks, and most of all to better paying teachers. We need to compete in today's world. And 6-10 billion or so can go along way if used wisely.

[kolte]

Actually, their has been a lot of congressmen and women freaking out about how to get money for katrina and now rita. I watch cspan and there has been some tuff arguments going on. floida is pissed that the government spends its money like crazy, democrats are freakin'. So yes we need to cut some funding, yhe question is, were.