mag lift

[kolte]

Do you think that America should invest in maglift train technology? When you look at it in a certin way, it takes less energy to run, goes faster, runs more smoothly and is enviornmentaly safe. However, to construct a massive, say amtrak mag lift would cost billions. So do you think the Department of transportation, should help fund Monorail/mag lift trains in america?

[redcar]

i love the maglift trains they are so much better than the conventional ones, however the cost would be massive, thats why any country that can should begin investing and starting to upgrade their system.

[kolte]

Yeah, China has maglift, japan has maglift, disney world has maglift, why doesnt america.

[redcar]

its the same wit europe i dont think any european country has maglift, dont quote me on that, but serious investment is going to be necessary in these forms of transport if we are going to progress abd make this world better for all.

[nwshc]

I would like to see them do it, but the thing is ever since they invented the 18 wheeler, thats been the primary way to ship stuff. And the train has pretty much been put on the back burner. I would love to see them use trains for everything (would save on gas etc.) but trucks dominate right now. I would like to see them use it though. Even if its just passenger trains.
Isn't it maglev? Thats all I have heard it said.

[<-Dying_to_Live->]

america does not use trains to transport people, we moved past that primitive form of transportation. somewhere in japan its neccessary, but here we use planes. i mean fuck who on earth would ride a shitty train for a billion hours when u could fly on a nice plane for cheap and ease. it would be a waste of money

[TheWizard]

I have riden on the metro before. It was cool.

[<-Dying_to_Live->]

billions of dollars cannot justifiably be spent because something is 'cool'

[nwshc]

billions of dollars cannot justifiably be spent because something is 'cool'
Well Matt, you also seem to think that space is "cool"

[kolte]

I ride the train all the time. Its not only long distance but for public transportation as well. but i think we need it for a cheaper, less expensive, and more environmentally safe shipment off goods to outerlying cities. also, forgin trade with canada and mexico, and other central american countries.

[toogilwell2006]

I am kinda bittersweet when it comes to trains. On one side i love riding trains...all one of them where i live. On the other, i just don't see how a train could be more practical than other forms of mass transportation and shipping methods.

Seems to me that using busses would just be more practical. More routes, with out having to worry about a large rail infrastructure through the city. That means more accesability to the traveler. I guess subways would be the exception to that though. as for traveling between cities...air travel is tons faster (well was before all the security at apts now days and maybe not so talking about mag trains), and you can get tickets fairly inexpensive if you book in advance enough. Not to mention i think it is far more enjoyable...but i am kinda biased.

As for shipping of goods, i am not sure about this. Anyone know what it costs to ship by train apposed to trucks? I would think again trucking would be easier for the operator. i mean how many trains go through Bleu Oklahoma?

So like i said i just don't know if the cost would be worth it. maybe

chris

[Jazbo]

Probably would be a worth while investment in the long run. However this would take decades to create a working system just in NYC alone, and for the entire country, well, we also don't have any money to invest in such an endeavor. Would be very nice to have though.

[<-Dying_to_Live->]

billions of dollars cannot justifiably be spent because something is 'cool'
Well Matt, you also seem to think that space is "cool"

the exploration of new frontiers in the interest of gathering knowledge and experience is different

[kolte]

I am kinda bittersweet when it comes to trains. On one side i love riding trains...all one of them where i live. On the other, i just don't see how a train could be more practical than other forms of mass transportation and shipping methods.

Seems to me that using busses would just be more practical. More routes, with out having to worry about a large rail infrastructure through the city. That means more accesability to the traveler. I guess subways would be the exception to that though. as for traveling between cities...air travel is tons faster (well was before all the security at apts now days and maybe not so talking about mag trains), and you can get tickets fairly inexpensive if you book in advance enough. Not to mention i think it is far more enjoyable...but i am kinda biased.

As for shipping of goods, i am not sure about this. Anyone know what it costs to ship by train apposed to trucks? I would think again trucking would be easier for the operator. i mean how many trains go through Bleu Oklahoma?

So like i said i just don't know if the cost would be worth it. maybe

chris

most of the oil, coal, wood, ect, natural, none manufactured goods that are in raw form are shiped by train. were as the finished product is then sent by truck to the store selling the goods. I live in a highly train populated town, and I see at least 3 trains an hour pass by. Its insane. You would not believe the amount of cars on one fright. could be anywere from 60 to 200 all full of natural resourses. and a train car hold the same amount, if not more then a truck. so its like 200+ turcks every 20 mins. also, monorails speed exceeds 200 miles an hour. that means that they could, if they didn't stop at so many towns, go faster then some smaller airlines. The trains allready go faster then a bus by about 4 hours, they are more cheap and include a diner car and bar. very spiffy.

[toogilwell2006]

most of the oil, coal, wood, ect, natural, none manufactured goods that are in raw form are shiped by train. were as the finished product is then sent by truck to the store selling the goods. I live in a highly train populated town, and I see at least 3 trains an hour pass by. Its insane. You would not believe the amount of cars on one fright. could be anywere from 60 to 200 all full of natural resourses. and a train car hold the same amount, if not more then a truck. so its like 200+ turcks every 20 mins. also, monorails speed exceeds 200 miles an hour. that means that they could, if they didn't stop at so many towns, go faster then some smaller airlines. The trains allready go faster then a bus by about 4 hours, they are more cheap and include a diner car and bar. very spiffy.

Yeah raw freight makes sense just becuase of the nature of the cargo, but i can't ever see the end product being shipped by train. Just not flexible enough.

Ok i think i am with you. lets see 9 hours on a grey hound sitting next to a bum shooting crack...or 4 hours at the bar. My friend Jose Quervo always wins.

[kolte]

here here

[toogilwell2006]

Also, a mag train would have to be a hell of lot less environmentaly unsafe. I mean would it need any form of internal combustion engne?

[redcar]

no its a whole lot more safer to the enviroment because it uses magents

[nwshc]

Also, a mag train would have to be a hell of lot less environmentaly unsafe. I mean would it need any form of internal combustion engne?
You should read up before you say something. There are magnets in the train, and magnets in the "track". When they are both activated they repell one another, thus makeing the train "float" inches above the concrete guide.

[kolte]

also, it would run off of a power source, not on the train, but at the station. hydro electric power, as well as solar are the main componits to a maglev's sucess. the hydro keeping the system up and running, the solar power keeping the transmitters online.

[toogilwell2006]

Sounds very clean and neat...so i guess the question is is it worth the price to change the massive rail infrastructure we have in the US

[kolte]

no, the question is, do you think the Departmet of Traspertation, should help fund the consturtion of a mag lev train

[toogilwell2006]

Hmm i don't know about the DOT funding it. I would rather see private developers and corps tackling it.

[kolte]

ture, but if the federal government took control, like they have control of the interstates, i think it would help americas growing economy.

[toogilwell2006]

ture, but if the federal government took control, like they have control of the interstates, i think it would help americas growing economy.

that's true. I guess the gubment could establish the infrastructure, and leave the actual trains up to private orgs maybe. ideas?

[kolte]

yes, good point. I think it would be good.

[<-Dying_to_Live->]

no it wouldnt it would cost money and it wouldnt replace anything

[toogilwell2006]

i do think it COULD be a good idea. i just the system wwe have is already to established