Hormones, Do they really cause homosexuality?

[The Batman]

The answer is no they might not the only hormones doctors have linked to sexuality are prenatal ones given to you by your mother and even those aren't really support enough to be thought of as a true link. There are plenty of internet sources that agree with my statement but if you don't then post your source here don't just post your opinion I want truth of you say.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Biology_and_sexual_orientation
http://www.albertmohler.com/blog_read.php?id=891
http://hometown.aol.com/graceeaca/chapter5.html
http://www.well.com/user/queerjhd/sxthegenedebate.htm

hormones signal bodily development, gay thoughts are attributed to a natural curiosity about sexuality and desire. because hormones and sexual growth occur around puberty, their often lumped together, but they are not part of a cause and effect relationshipThis is a quote by a friend of mine who asked to remain anonymous (even though its online and still anonymous)

[Oblivion]

I don't think hormones can CAUSE homosexuality, but i do think they can cause people to have homosexual thoughts, due to curiosity.

[The Batman]

Hormones don't cause curiosity in fact they have nothing to do with sexual desire.

[Dolphus Raymond]

Hormones correlate big time with development, and they're released with sexual arousal (http://www.springerlink.com/content/h77437222540v844/). There are also sexual arousal hormone, and some of these exist at higher levels during puberty.

So, you could say that they cause increased sex drive, and that causes homosexual desires and urges. I don't think that hormones cause homosexuality in the permanent sense, though.

[The Batman]

But still that desire has to have already been there it just doesn't pop out of thin air.

[Maverick]

The desire isn't always there. There's no sexual attraction while one is prepubescent.

[The Batman]

But there is an attraction before hand and also we as humans are naturally curious about things and the fact is that puberty or not those gay thoughts would have crossed your mind. What I'm trying to say is hormones do not cause homosexual thoughts but they might help intensify them.

[Maverick]

What I'm trying to say is hormones do not cause homosexual thoughts but they might help intensify them.
And where are you getting this from? How can you back it up?

[The Batman]

http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index;_ylt=ArpXP9bzlRr52QgMXp1ouwzsy6IX;_ylv=3?qid=20080504213823AAsKTtl

Where is your information coming from?

[Maverick]

Some sources would be nice. I don't care to read what people on another message board said. You're presenting the debate.

If you want to know where this came from...?
The desire isn't always there. There's no sexual attraction while one is prepubescent.
Common sense..... but if you must:

http://www.kidshealth.org/parent/emotions/feelings/sexual_orientation.html

It's a natural part of life to have sexual feelings. As people pass from childhood, through adolescence, to adulthood, their sexual feelings develop and change.
During the teen years, sexual feelings are awakened in new ways because of the hormonal and physical changes of puberty. These changes involve both the body and the mind, and teens tend to wonder about new — and often intense — sexual feelings.
It takes time for many people to understand who they are and who they're becoming. Part of that understanding includes a person's sexual feelings and attractions.
The term sexual orientation refers to the gender (that is, male or female) to which a person is attracted. There are several types of sexual orientation that are commonly described:


Heterosexual. People who are heterosexual are romantically and physically attracted to members of the opposite sex: Heterosexual males are attracted to females, and heterosexual females are attracted to males. Heterosexuals are sometimes called "straight."
Homosexual. People who are homosexual are romantically and physically attracted to people of the same sex: Females who are attracted to other females are lesbian; males who are attracted to other males are often known as gay. (The term gay is sometimes also used to describe homosexual individuals of either gender.)
Bisexual. People who are bisexual are romantically and physically attracted to members of both sexes.

Teens — both boys and girls — often find themselves having sexual thoughts and attractions. For some, these feelings and thoughts can be intense — and even confusing or disturbing. That may be especially true for people who are having romantic or sexual thoughts about someone of the same gender. "What does that mean," they might think. "Am I gay?"
Thinking sexually about both the same sex and the opposite sex is quite common as teens sort through their emerging sexual feelings. This type of imagining about people of the same or opposite sex doesn't necessarily mean that a person fits into a particular type of sexual orientation.
Some teens may also experiment with sexual experiences, including those with members of the same sex, during the years they are exploring their own sexuality. These experiences, by themselves, do not necessarily mean that a teen is gay or straight.

[The Batman]

A few of my other sources are in my first post and it's not common sense it is completely an opinion. Still it doesn't answer my question is this caused by hormones, I have yet to see a source that states hormones cause homosexual thoughts and acts.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Biology_and_sexual_orientationA number of biological factors have been considered by scientists, such as prenatal hormones (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prenatal_hormones_and_sexual_orientation), chromosomes (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chromosomes), polygenetic effects, brain structure effects and even viral influences.[citation needed (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Citation_needed)]
In the fruitfly Drosophila melanogaster (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Drosophila_melanogaster), mutant alleles of the fruitless (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fruitless_%28gene%29) gene were found to cause male flies to court and attempt to mate exclusively with other males. Likewise, mutations in the genderblind (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Genderblind) gene were effective in altering fly behavior toward a bisexual orientation.

[Maverick]

Wikipedia isn't a good source. It can be edited by anyone and the statements you posted have no citation.

I suggest you read my quoted post again.

[Oblivion]

Mav your awesome :) i agree 100%

As people pass from childhood, through adolescence, to adulthood, their sexual feelings develop and change.

[Techno Monster]

i belive they do.

[The Batman]

I'm not saying hormones don't have anything to do with homosexual thoughts and if I have anyway implied or mentioned it I apologize what I'm saying is these thoughts aren't caused by hormones and I have yet to see a source that says different.

[Maverick]

I'm not saying hormones don't have anything to do with homosexual thoughts.
I'm saying is these thoughts aren't caused by hormones....
Contradiction? :confused:

[Whisper]

ya umm wow
lol

Some say nature
Some say nurture
Because nothing in life's that simple personally my bets on a mix of the two
The mix is also different depending on the individual

[The Batman]

Contradiction? :confused:
How is that a contradiction?

[Dolphus Raymond]

How is that a contradiction?

Well, in the first quote you say that you aren't saying that hormones don't relate to homosexual thoughts. That is, you're saying that they might.

In the second, you say that "these thoughts" (presumably homosexual ones) aren't caused by hormones.

It's possible for them to be related, but not caused by, but that requires some explanation.

[Oblivion]

You said first that hormones do NOT have a part in these thoughts
You said second that hormones DO have a part in these thoughts

In my opinion, you cant really contradict more than that :P

[The Batman]

Yoda that is not what I said
Ok I get it now let me explain me it a bit.
What I was saying is that these homosexual thoughts are rooted from different things besides hormones but your hormones might help to intensify those thoughts and feelings. Does that give a better understanding.