The American Constitution

[kolte]

I am sick and tired of it! I can no longer stand by and watch America burn in flames. We the people must do something. It is our job to keep this country beautiful, and its about time we make some changes.

In the past few years people are becoming more and more argument pron (for lack of a better word). I have watched this country fall apart. But why is America destined for destruction? The Constitution of the United States! A document written hundreds of years ago, by people who had no idea of how America would be today.

How do we know it needs to be changed? When something is argued and fussed about and torn apart. When people sue each other and debate each other against it, their needs to be change.

I say that a large movement to simplify the government and its ancient constitution should be made soon. In such a modern time, such old ways of running things is inappropriate. The world is no longer run by the previous, primitive governments of our ancestors, so why this deranged, distorted form of government.

I think that America should form a new constitution and create a new government. something more simplified and less controlling.

[nwshc]

Um... what are you talking about? Are you saying the constitution is tearing this country a new one?

[kolte]

I'm saying that the constitution should be changed. can I say it any more clearly? The government doesn't work anymore, it needs change.

[redcar]

the american government seems ot be working fine, in wat way do u think its not?

[nwshc]

Well how? You haven't really given specific reasons, or events that make you feel this way. I don't see anything wrong with it.

[<-Dying_to_Live->]

in all the debates and all the opinions ive ever come across ever on this website, nothing absolutely NOTHING comes even remotely close to how insanely asanine your idea of SCRAPPING THE CONSTITUION is. i think u need to be institutionalized

[kolte]

I think that things like gay marriage and abortion, and other things that are the people's bussiness, should stay the peoples business. Who has the right to tell me what I can and cannot do in my personal life. some arrogent snob who cares about nothing but a Vote. FUCK that, I'm tired of the poeple of america, so brian washed by there "perfect" government, defende the very people who hurt them. The laws and the programs, and the departments that govern you and your rights. And I'm tired of the constant fighting between citizens.

"Well I'm not christian, I don't wanna say the pledge, I don't like the "in god we trust" on the dollar, I don't like that you can say that"

People sue other people for things over and over and over agian. For things that are no more then 20 dollar scandles. And the ridiculas laws and legislations in the country. The fact That we are constantly being scard by our ideal little telivisoins.

WAR FAMANE DEATH AIDS WAR FAMANE DEATH AIDS

cut to commerical, and brush your teeth or the people won't like you, if you have acne then the girls not gonna fuck you, if you don't dress like this, if you don't starve yourself on this diet, if you don't act perfect, people will hate you.

and then department after department regulating everything. the FDA and their scandles, the IRS, medicare, medicade, helth departments, after deparments, confusion, shame.

One person after another through into a place of power. And the electoral voteing! That pisses me right the hell off. Is the American public not smart enough to choose their own president. And don't give me that bull shit that long ago the people of america didn't know who they were vonting for, That's why we need change.

the government needs to change because we have changed! don't you see?

[<-Dying_to_Live->]

no. the constitution of the united states of america is the most coveted thing we have. if you read it ull be impressed. its beautfiul. it defines this country and makes us who we are

[kolte]

I have read it, I own it in book forum as well as the bill of rights. And its all rubish.

[<-Dying_to_Live->]

ok well if you think its rubbish go move somewhere like pakistan. then ull see when a constitution comes in handy

[nwshc]

Someones PMSing :P

But in all seriousness, what the fuck does aids, war, beliefes, fighting, the fda, irs etc have to do with the fucking constitution?!!? The only thing that has to do with the constitution is Gay Marriage and Electoral Votes.
So basicly you are tired of America and everything that has to do with America from the citezens, to the government, to the dirt.

"cut to commerical, and brush your teeth or the people won't like you, if you have acne then the girls not gonna fuck you, if you don't dress like this, if you don't starve yourself on this diet, if you don't act perfect, people will hate you. "
You think all of this only happens in America?!
You need a fucking wake up call! America has fucking problems just like every fucking country in this fucking world!! America is not this big bad monster that you and Austin make it out to be. Jesus fucking christ. What the fuck are you people on?!
ARE we suppost to cure fucking AIDS?! NO
Are we suppost to stop all forms of death?! NO
ARe we suppost to stop all forms of war?! NO
ARe we suppost to stop famine?! NO
I dont even know what aids, famine, war and death have to do with any fucking thing!

If you fucking people that feel EVERYTHING needs to be changed were gone, everything would run a hell of alot more smothly!

AMERICA IS NOT THE CAUSE OF EVERYTHIGN!!! EVERYTHING IS NOT BUSHES FAULT!!! AMERICA WILL NOT CAUSE THE ENDING OF THE FUCKING WORLD!! Get your fuckng head out of your asses you ignorant pricks.

[kolte]

someones PMSing. ha......haha.........ha....=\

You, you and your pride.....your filthy pride. You think america is god. you think that its a perfect littly happy land. you think that other countries are dirt. you are why people hate america. your ignorant pride.

for one the irs and the fda are departments in the american government, departments made possible by your ideal constitution, and for seconds, My beef isnt just with the constitution, its with the american government as well. they have you head so full of bull shit you cant even speak without crap running out of your mouth.

You don't look at america from an outsiders perspective. Why do you think everyone hates the us, its a bunch of arrogent pricks who think their country is better then all others. The constitution is coveted my ass. you were lead to believe it was.

George W. Bush, respect, that's all I have for the man you raped our peoples rights and sent poor farm kids to parish in a war they thought was for the greater good. How wrong they were, but they will never know they were wrong. Only their mothers are left to weep at a grave containing a few medels and a burnt heap of flesh. You say they died for honer. What honer was that.

Do we really know that suddam hussian was as evil as we said he was. According to his very own peopole, he wasn't. He was a good leader. But would america want you to know that he wasent all that bad. no, would we have allowed prez. bush to invade a country and kill hundreds of thousands if we knew he was doing it to gain oil phrofets.

Mabye if we had know his oil company was huge in kuwait and sudai arabia we would have reiolized that afghanistan, iraq, kuwait, arabia, they are the top oil producing countries in the world. and did you know that the araibian oil companies so in tuch with george bush, built a massive pipe line, pumping oil from afghanistan and iraq into refineries owned by none other then the bush family and there suadi friends.

But trucking back onto the main subject. No I don't support a government so confusing, so massive, so currupted that people don't even know what its doing. No I dont support a constitution that puts all of the power into branches I have no controll over. Is my represinitive even listing to the public. I never really hear about him untill electiion date's come up. I think a new, slimplified government should be adopted by the us, and I think the constitution should be tossed out and a new document created, a stronger document that really hits. I don't think the goverment should tell me I HAVE to ware a seat belt, or am NOT ALLOWED to marry another male, or am FORBIDDEN to abort a 16 cell morula, or am NOT ABLE to reasearch stem cell regeneration from the aborted 16 cell morula.

"the purpose of government is to protect freedoms through the preservation of internal order, the provision of national defense, and the administration of justice"

Bob Bauman

They have no right to interfear with the economy. But if I were to have a company that did so well that its whiped all other companies away, I'm charged with a monopoly. And if I charge my prices up higher, haveing no compitition, then I'm charged with price gauldging. But in our "ideal constitution" are we not permitted to set prices at whatever we damn well please.

-- Parliament of Whores The U.S. government is a sort of permanent frat pledge to every special interest in the nation - willing to undertake any task no matter how absurd or useless.

-- Parliament of Whores It is remarkable, on close inspection, what a lousy way to get things done democracy is. Not that democracy necessarily makes the wrong decisions. Private enterprise can do this with equal or greater ease. But in a democracy the decision-making process must be listened to. The great thing about the invisible hand of the market is not that it's invisible but that it's silent.

What wonderful quotes, don't you agree. and by some of the greatest minds of out time!

I have a question. What do the people on this site, not from the us, think about the us!

[<-Dying_to_Live->]

what i think is funny is that despite our "corrupted economic policies", we are an outliar on the economic spectrum. through the roof. how do u think we would get more money than anyone else if our constituion sucks so much. how do u think were the most influential country in the world if our constitution sucks so much. do you honestly think that you are more intelligent than our founding fathers? do you honestly think that you could revise the constitution that has served this country so well?

[kolte]

No cosmos, I do not, for one second believe that I am smarter then the founding fathers. I'm sorry that I made it sound that way. I myself shouldn't revise the constitution, I think the american people should, together. But the united states is not the richest, or most sucsessful in the world.

Luxembourg has the richest people, and the united states, is rank 101 in the fastest growing economys. The united states does have the largest gross domestic product, but Luxembourg has more gdp per person. And the EU comes in a VERY close second to the united states. The united states imports more then any other nation, about a trillion dollars a year on imports. when the EU and Germany export trillions of dollars a year, the united states only around 700 billion dollars. that means we are slowly losing money. And the united states has the biggest external debt then any other country. besides the UK. The us also has a 5.50 percent unemployment rate. 47 other countries have a lower one. And our Current account balance is lower then any other country in the world. But though our economy is not the gratest, we still find time to spend over 300 billion dollars a year on our millitary. thats 3 percent of our funds in the millitary.

But oil production, rank four, oil consumption rank one. natural gas protuction, rank 15, natural gas consumption, rank one. as well, 65 percent of our popultation, is in dept. and we have a 6.5 percent infent mortallity rate, that means our children would be safer born in Singapore or Taiwan

and did you know that 950000 Known people are lining with aids in the us.

But you know what, Those are just numbers. that could, one day change. for better or for worse. mabye america doesnt need a new constitution, mabye we just need a reavoultation of our government body, which, in turn, would alter the constituiton. but the bill of rights, they are good, but couldnt they be better, or maybe some of the laws, and rights chould be changed. some things that could only better us. like the fact that people can sue for charges amounting mearly 20 dollars. mabye it should be moved up. and maybe we should create a popular vote, instead of electoral college. and maybe we could reorange our legislation, to better suite the needs of modern america. perhaps we should extend our forgin policy and reach out to other countries, lending a helping hand, not just thinking about america but the whole world. The EU has great sucess, why not america create a union like that in north america, were the countries to the south stuggle to survive. and perhaps america should crack down on our congress, rewriting the constitution, to simplify our growing numbers of departments and legislative branches.

To change would only be for the better. we need to stop standing by many hundred year old way's of running things.

[redcar]

someones PMSing. ha......haha.........ha....=\

You, you and your pride.....your filthy pride. You think america is god. you think that its a perfect littly happy land. you think that other countries are dirt. you are why people hate america. your ignorant pride.


no thats just being patriotic, i feel the same way about ireland. i think we are the best, and thats not been ignorant.

[kolte]

I support patritism, but when you ignore the flaws, and pretend their are none, while other poeple suffer. thats stupidity, and arrogence.

[redcar]

granted, but there are more positives than negatives to the US Constitution as its with most western world countries, but to completely change it wud be stupidity.

[kolte]

But our government is to massive. we are breaking rules we ourselves made. we latch on to 200 year old laws that just don't make sense anymore. We create random laws that restrict things that affect nobody. We have too much power in the federal government. not in the poeple. We debate over useless things like religion. and we segregate all when we say we don't.

[nwshc]

I support patritism, but when you ignore the flaws, and pretend their are none, while other poeple suffer. thats stupidity, and arrogence.
I do not ignore the flaws. America has many many flaws, but NONE as bloated as YOU make them out to be.

I'm done.

[TheWizard]

I think the USA is doing fine except in its ecomny. Trading with other countries must be equeal or it sucks money out of the USA.

[<-Dying_to_Live->]

No cosmos, I do not, for one second believe that I am smarter then the founding fathers.

since u admit that your stupider than the people who wrote the constitution, im going to have to agree with them and not you. end of story. tehe

~cosmos

http://img373.imageshack.us/img373/2762/world5qq.jpg
heres to anyone who DARE claim we have a bad economy. i laugh in ur face

[kolte]

rank country number economic standpoint

101 United States 4.40 GDP growth rate

2 United States $ 40,100 GDP per capita

2 United States $ 11 trillion GDP

127 United States 15.70 Investment %

82 United States 2.50 Inflation rate %

34 United States 65.00 Public debt %

149 United States $ -646,500,000,000 current balance

4 United States $ 795,000,000,000 Exports

2 United States $ 1,476,000,000,000 Imports

3 United States $ 1,400,000,000,000 debt external



These facts were gathered from the CIA World Factbook

[TheWizard]

I don't understand that stuff. :(

[<-Dying_to_Live->]

othello can u please explain it to those of us who dont understand?

[redcar]

could u give me the link to your second stat there i need to see that cause i have different info on that

[kolte]

Who has the right to tell me what I can and cannot do in my personal life. some arrogant snob who cares about nothing but a Vote.


I'll assume you asked a question, despite the fact that there wasn't a single question mark in that phrase. I'm assuming that you are referring to the President as the "snob" that "tells you what you can and can't do". But America is run by the people, for the people. If you want to change something in our laws, stop complaining about it on a message board. You, as a citizen, could submit a bill, maybe with a petition, and if enough people keep pushing for this law, it will get passed. If it doesn't get passed, and the majority of America want it, the President that rejected will not get voted into office again.


You dirty bastard. In order to prove you unsupported puny point, you belittle me. Well, I myself will now assume, no, not assume, know and tell you, that I was not referring to the president about my accusation, but to the American government as a whole. I guess it would only help if I break it down a bit more, for those of you who don't understand me. I blame that small part on the Judicial government.



WAR FAMANE DEATH AIDS x2

War-War is part of having civilization. We are at war with terrorists. What can we do about it? Would you rather we go to war with them, or lie down on our backs, spread our legs, and let or enemies come to us?

"Famane"(Famine)- No one in America even knows the true meaning of famine. As long as your eligible, your can apply for food stamps. If your not eligible for food stamps, then, most likely, you can work for your own money, to provide your own food.

Death- The only way we can stop death, is to stop life. Does that mean your pro-abortion?
:roll:

AIDS- You don't get AIDS if someone coughs on you. For rape victims, or for people that were born with AIDS, I'm sympathetic, but there are plenty of ways to defend yourself from AIDS if you are having consensual sex.

The War Famine Death Aids bit was me portraying what the government was telling the people of the USA about. If you paid more attention, you may have understood me more clearly. However, once again, since you seem to be having trouble catching on, I will revise my statement.

I said before:

“The fact That we are constantly being scared by our ideal little televisions

WAR FAMANE DEATH AIDS WAR FAMANE DEATH AIDS

cut to commercial, and brush your teeth or the people won't like you, if you have acne then the girls not gonna fuck you, if you don't dress like this, if you don't starve yourself on this diet, if you don't act perfect, people will hate you.”

I say now:

I wish the government didn't use the media to scare the American people into believing they are the best in the world, and that every other country sucks. (because they do) And then afterwords the commercials frighten us into consuming their products.



One person after another through into a place of power. And the electoral voteing! That pisses me right the hell off. Is the American public not smart enough to choose their own president. And don't give me that bull shit that long ago the people of america didn't know who they were vonting for, That's why we need change.


So what your saying is that:
A) The public are idiots
B) that it's are law system's fault that the people are idiots

Once again you seem to not understand what I'm saying. I think most other people did, but hell, I wouldn't be here if I wasn't out of my mind would I?

For one, I wasn't talking about an American law system at all, I was putting down our beloved voting article, stating that (in crude, but true, terms) If the citizens of the USA choose the wrong president, that the electoral college will choose the right one. I for one, think that is kinda like calling us all stupid, don't you think? Kinda unable to choose our own leader!

[<-Dying_to_Live->]

wow u have to resort to name calling? thats so fucking lame

[kolte]

And still, you completely misunderstand me. Why can't you figure it out. I said the american government was calling you stupid, and yet you still seem to think I'm calling the american people stupid. Catch the point damnit.

[<-Dying_to_Live->]

nooooo i was talking to whoever quoted "faggot" and quoted "whore"

[nwshc]

And quoted "bitchboy"

[nwshc]

I was just adding to Matt's quote. That is all.

[toogilwell2006]

You know there is really only one way to settle this. Battle to the death!

Whose with me?

Chris

[nwshc]

not really

[<-Dying_to_Live->]

i have yet to see one single amendment or article from the constitution that anyone has a problem with.

[nwshc]

I only have a problem with Amendment II

[<-Dying_to_Live->]

which says...

[nwshc]

Wow, you are the second most patriotic person behind me and you dont know the 2nd amendment?
The right to bear arms.

[kolte]

here here, I think guns are bad,

[<-Dying_to_Live->]

the right to bear arms was meant as in a permanent standing army. i see no prob with that

[nwshc]

Wells its not so much that people should have the right to bear arms, they should. But gun deaths are out of control and stuff. adn the solution to everything is to shoot and kill someone.

[kolte]

yeah, as a community millitia. not everone grab a gun just to have one.

[<-Dying_to_Live->]

not the constituion's fault, its africa's fault...

if you see where im goin with that jk. but really its the peoples fault not a flaw in the constitution

[nwshc]

the right to bear arms was meant as in a permanent standing army. i see no prob with that
Its was created because there was no real army at the time. There was just the farmers, and they fought. Now we have an army, and citizens do not need to protect themselves like the amendment was ment for.

[kolte]

the right to bear arms was meant as in a permanent standing army. i see no prob with that
Its was created because there was no real army at the time. There was just the farmers, and they fought. Now we have an army, and citizens do not need to protect themselves like the amendment was ment for.

here here, indeed. I completely support that.

[<-Dying_to_Live->]

it wasnt meant for civilians but u cant make guns illegal because then people wont be able to defend themselves against the people who will alwyas have them

[kolte]

I dont care if you have like a hunting rifle or somthing, but a automatic ak 47. COME ON

[nwshc]

OMG you changed you location to democracy? you nub lol.

Anyway, If you restrict guns then less and less people will have them. Thus decreasing the need for people to protect themselves with guns.

[<-Dying_to_Live->]

ya those are illegal. and so are drugs but people take them. so is speeding but people still drive fast. people will always have guns making them illegal will make the ordinary people unsafe against the people who wdo

[kolte]

yeah but it will shut the democrats up lol

[nwshc]

So from what you are saying, we should let everyone speed so they can keep up with eachother? We should let everyone take drugs so they can experience it together?

[<-Dying_to_Live->]

no, but we should let people have guns ... actually come to think of it... i dont own a gun. i dont need a gun. i dont know anyone who does own a gun. people who go hunting are cruel and disgusting. who needs guns? its not like i have to protect myself from the mafia each night. if an armed robber breaks into my house and my dad has a gun what happens if he trips and accidentally blows my brothers brains out into my moms mouth and she chokes and dies? guns arent needed. here here for a gun ban

[Whisper]

guns arent the problem
guns dont kill people people kill people

in Canada theres an estimated
30million people
10 million familys
&
7million guns

yet shootings are extremly rare nobody shots other people here

[serial-thrilla]

guns arent the problem
guns dont kill people people kill people

in Canada theres an estimated
30million people
10 million familys
&
7million guns

yet shootings are extremly rare nobody shots other people here maybe not in small towns but big cities like toronto have gun violence problems.

[<-Dying_to_Live->]

hahah eat THAT toronto.

cody theres just no gun violence where you live because you dont live... anywhere lol

[Whisper]

Hahahaha no shit
Edmonton does to


and i've seen bowling for columbine
I lived in edmonton
and i spent most of my life in the drug capital of canada
its still better then other citys

Hell in the UK what 40sum people are shot a yr compared to americas 11thousand

[<-Dying_to_Live->]

well we have more people then uk so what do u expect

[Whisper]

you have less then Japan and there # of deaths caused by guns is lower

[<-Dying_to_Live->]

psh prove it. who cares about japan anyways.

[nwshc]

Bowling for Columbine. pft. Anything made by Mike Moore is shit.

[Whisper]

Bowling for Columbine. pft. Anything made by Mike Moore is shit.

I find it funny how you accuse me of ignoring facts when you say theres a higher chance of you being a criminal if your black then if your white (i've yet to actually see any) yet you ignore these facts because YOU don't like them :roll:

[kolte]

Bowling for Columbine. pft. Anything made by Mike Moore is shit.

I find it funny how you accuse me of ignoring facts when you say theres a higher chance of you being a criminal if your black then if your white (i've yet to actually see any) yet you ignore these facts because YOU don't like them :roll:

here here!

And actually, the population of jaban is about 50 million less then the united states. But Japan is about the size of texas, so its about 180 million people on a very small island.

[<-Dying_to_Live->]

Bowling for Columbine. pft. Anything made by Mike Moore is shit.

I find it funny how you accuse me of ignoring facts when you say theres a higher chance of you being a criminal if your black then if your white (i've yet to actually see any) yet you ignore these facts because YOU don't like them :roll:

i already showed you my from the bureau of justice statistics that you ignored. what more do you want?

[nwshc]

Bowling for Columbine. pft. Anything made by Mike Moore is shit.

I find it funny how you accuse me of ignoring facts when you say theres a higher chance of you being a criminal if your black then if your white (i've yet to actually see any) yet you ignore these facts because YOU don't like them :roll:
I don't like anything by him for a reason. Its all biased bullshit. I would rather be presented with all of the facts, than have one sided information shoveled into me.
And matt has already proven, and showed creadible information that blacks commit more crimes. But, you still, and many others choose to also ignore that.

[Whisper]

Nick you dumbass
Everythings biasde
everything
The only way you get around that is by hearing both sides and comming to your own conclussions
Ignoring info is foolish!

[nwshc]

So chooseing not to see biased information, and finding it information someplace else makes me a dumbass?

[Whisper]

So chooseing not to see biased information, and finding it information someplace else makes me a dumbass?

ALL INFO IS BIASED

the person or persons that write it will shift it towards an opinion they or there superiors choose.

Ever herd of propoganda?

Your goverment hell EVERY goverment does it
Every news station does it

Theres ALWAYS two sides to a story and inorder to get info
you have to listen to both sides
extract the relivent information and come to your own decision

[<-Dying_to_Live->]

ya but listening to michael moore is the biggest self evident propaganda EVER, because he openly states he hates america and the president. hes admitted it and runs an anti american website. you cant get more biased than him

[nwshc]

^^^ Listen to the godsause matt

[Whisper]

pfft

[kolte]

you know what. FUCK AMERICA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[<-Dying_to_Live->]

whats your favorite country?

[kolte]

whats your favorite country?

america lol

[<-Dying_to_Live->]

ya so shutup

[kolte]

ya so shutup

if you want me to shut up. then stop being so bias about how "good" america is. It is not all that in a bag of chips. so stop acting like it is. I know it has good and bad moments. but to ignore the fact that america has many, MANY flaws is not only ingnorant, arrogent, and bias, but narrow minded.

[Whisper]

whats your favorite country?

Canada!!! :R

[<-Dying_to_Live->]

ya so shutup

if you want me to shut up. then stop being so bias about how "good" america is.

no, i love my country, unlike you. ill do anything and everything to show it, and nothing you can say will ever quell my pride.