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dabomb
April 22nd, 2008, 09:49 PM
im 14 and not developed at all, 5'0 and around 90- 100 lbs
Can i lift 5lbs weights? and if so, how much

MoveAlong
April 22nd, 2008, 09:52 PM
sorry dude, we cannot tell you how strong your muscles are, you will have to go in a weight room and try the machines and free weights before you can know how much you can lift.

How much is safe? If you have a spotter, more than you can handle, and without a spotter, excercises and weights you can do without spotters are safe

theOperaGhost
April 22nd, 2008, 09:59 PM
You just have to go and try it out for yourself. Figure out the limits of your body. Everyone has to do that. You could start with light weights and several reps, then work your way up. It doesn't really matter how much weight you can lift, just try going for more reps.

MoveAlong
April 22nd, 2008, 10:03 PM
but don't overwork yourself. ask a coach or a trainer at a gym to help you out and get you started with basics.

LifeIsMyJoke
May 20th, 2008, 06:17 AM
sorry dude, we cannot tell you how strong your muscles are, you will have to go in a weight room and try the machines and free weights before you can know how much you can lift.

How much is safe? If you have a spotter, more than you can handle, and without a spotter, excercises and weights you can do without spotters are safe


Sorry Flex but I need to disagree strongly with something you mentioned here.

I'm aware you are very intelligent, but the introduction of spotters (people to help you lift a weight heavier than you are capable of lifting) is NOT recommended for people that are currently still developing, and children.

This is because their muscle tone is not fully developed, and thus more subject to injuries, specifically on the bone platelets. Maximum lifting isn't something that should really be done until your body is fully developed, or at least well through puberty, as it can have significant setbacks.



I would recommend firstly that you not worry too much about your physical appearance or muscle tone until you are a fair way through puberty mate. Everything changes in this time period, and you run less risk of injuring yourself.

If you are looking to get fit, I suggest cardiovascular fitness (endurance events), and maybe even Power (explosive fitness, quick lifting, lowerweights, etc) and of course, Endurance (Low Weights, high repetitions).

But if you are insistent on maximum lifting (and sorry but Im not familiar with pounds / kilo ratio), start off low, and progressively overload (keep working up) until you are capable of lifting the maximum weight you wish to. You might need the help of a professional here.

I studied PE for 4 years, but thats all over now, so some of my details may be faintly off, but hopefully this post helped you in some way =D

Pm me if you need any more help - cheers

Adam

EDIT: Lifting 5 pounds Im assuming is about 2.5kg, and shouldnt be a problem. Its hard to know without knowing your muscle mass, but take it easy, thats my main advice - its not worth risking a serious injury over.

Θάνατος
May 20th, 2008, 04:35 PM
go to a gym and they will have trainers available to help you out

MoveAlong
May 20th, 2008, 09:37 PM
Sorry Flex but I need to disagree strongly with something you mentioned here.

I'm aware you are very intelligent, but the introduction of spotters (people to help you lift a weight heavier than you are capable of lifting) is NOT recommended for people that are currently still developing, and children.

This is because their muscle tone is not fully developed, and thus more subject to injuries, specifically on the bone platelets. Maximum lifting isn't something that should really be done until your body is fully developed, or at least well through puberty, as it can have significant setbacks.

I think you are misinterpreting what I said.
I did not say that you should lift so much that you cannot lift it without a spotter. This is like maxing and can break down muscle tissue and cause your muscles to get weaker.

I'm saying that if you are performing a lift (such as squatting with an olympic bar, or benching), and you are lifting a lot that may tire you out quickly as part of your routine, or you are doing something special such as pyramiding, you should have a spotter for harder, more difficult lifts and amounts of weight.

I am also saying that you can lift on your own as long as you make sure that you are not lifting so much that you may lose your grip and hurt yourself. Thus, if you are worried that this might happen, you should get a spotter.

I was never suggesting to adapt a routine that you must have a spotter in order to complete your routine. This is a different form of training and should be done for adults. I was explaining that you are safe when you lift a lot if you have a spotter. And if you don't have a spotter, you should not lift very heavy weights. I was not suggesting of adapting this routine, it is a warning. Thank you for understanding.

0=
May 20th, 2008, 11:18 PM
Just don't lift until you're developed. You can bike, swim, run, do situps, pushups, pullups, etc., though, and you'll be insanely toned and defined. Lifting just builds mass.

MoveAlong
May 21st, 2008, 09:12 PM
Lifting just builds mass.

umm, no...and explain to me why you shouldn't lift until you're fully developed?

LifeIsMyJoke
May 21st, 2008, 10:28 PM
umm, no...and explain to me why you shouldn't lift until you're fully developed?

Because your bone platelets aren't fully stable or developed, and lifting heavy weights while underdeveloped can lead to overuse injuries such as Stress Fractures.

Also, the effects of heavy lifting for a junior aren't as beneficial as they would be for someone with a more completely developed body system.

And yeah sorry I kind of misunderstood what you said about the spotters, but I still feel rather strongly that I don't think people should get into bulking up, or heavy lifting until their body is ready - this way they will be more likely to avoid serious injury, as well as making the most of their working out time.

EDIT: Yeah and spotters are really only there to help the lifter through the sticking point, the part of the lift in which you can't complete on your own due to fatigue or too much weight. This is where I disagree the common sense in even having a junior get to this point lifting weights, its dangerous, and semi beneficial.

MoveAlong
May 22nd, 2008, 12:04 AM
...the effects of heavy lifting for a junior aren't as beneficial as they would be for someone with a more completely developed body system.

1. Heavy weights are not recommended and I do not support heavy weights. Only weights that you can build strength and bulk with...the usual kind

And 2, of course it isn't as beneficial. A teen doesn't have the hormone levels and strength potential like an adult does. But by learning in your teens, you're able to develop the technique and learn about it and be exposed to it.

LifeIsMyJoke
May 22nd, 2008, 05:26 AM
1. Heavy weights are not recommended and I do not support heavy weights. Only weights that you can build strength and bulk with...the usual kind

And 2, of course it isn't as beneficial. A teen doesn't have the hormone levels and strength potential like an adult does. But by learning in your teens, you're able to develop the technique and learn about it and be exposed to it.

Technique is one thing, yes. Being exposed to it is different, its like practical vs theoretical.

But I agree with your last post, and the moral of this story is: If you are looking to get a bit bigger, dont attempt maximum lifting, and ask your gym instructor or coach on how to best go about this whilst avoiding injury and over exertion.

serial-thrilla
May 22nd, 2008, 10:55 AM
to actually get bigger you need to lift a weight thats heavy for you. If your sets arent really all that hard or intense then its too light and you arent doing that much. Now its different if your just looking for muscle endurance and not mass where sets of a lighter weight that you can lift properly like 20 times would be usefull. But i mean to get built you need to challenge yourself and lift weight thats heavy and hard to do. You will be very sore just remember to bulk up on protein after the workout.

LifeIsMyJoke
May 23rd, 2008, 04:55 AM
to actually get bigger you need to lift a weight thats heavy for you. If your sets arent really all that hard or intense then its too light and you arent doing that much. Now its different if your just looking for muscle endurance and not mass where sets of a lighter weight that you can lift properly like 20 times would be usefull. But i mean to get built you need to challenge yourself and lift weight thats heavy and hard to do. You will be very sore just remember to bulk up on protein after the workout.

And the moral ethics of this are wrong for someone who isn't developed yet, thats what I've been saying :S

His point is right, but it shouldn't really be attempted until you are much further developed, like i've said, for beneficiary reasons.

0=
May 23rd, 2008, 11:17 PM
It makes more sense to build muscle through normal exercise rather than lifting until you're developed. I've never heard of anyone overdoing it with push ups, sit ups, and running.

serial-thrilla
May 24th, 2008, 09:16 AM
It makes more sense to build muscle through normal exercise rather than lifting until you're developed. I've never heard of anyone overdoing it with push ups, sit ups, and running.
yes i agree there if he has not developed then heavy weights arent a great idea. I mean i guess pushup/situps are ok but you wont build much strength or size at all from those alone. I mean I go to the gym 6 times per week, run 4 times a week plus play sports, take supplements, and ive been doing this for well over a year solid and i havent put on nearly the mass that i want, it takes alot of time and its not easy.

0=
May 24th, 2008, 03:30 PM
I fail to see why mass is so important. I'm not very large, but people don't give you shit when you can run a 4:45 mile.

serial-thrilla
May 24th, 2008, 06:21 PM
I fail to see why mass is so important. I'm not very large, but people don't give you shit when you can run a 4:45 mile. muscles get larger when you get stronger. I for one work out for my ultimate goal of being totally ripped with low body fat.