phuckphace
September 21st, 2015, 08:36 PM
Are you only talking about the 2nd amendment? Or maybe something larger?
'Just want some examples of constitutional stuff that you think is archaic.
imagine if you took the French constitution and tried to apply it to Sumerian society in 2000 BCE. it's like that, but in reverse. or to put it another way, how about the Code of Hammurabi applied to France in 2015. in either scenario it would be next to useless.
the American constitution was workable in its day, to the extent that our society still reflected the conditions that were present when it was devised. here's what wasn't present: atomization, social decay, economy instability, sky-high violent crime rates, widespread drug use, and technology that keeps us hermetically sealed from our neighbors. Ben Franklin is said to have written "Those who sacrifice essential liberty for temporary security deserve neither," but he said that in the context of utopian 18th century America. if he were to step out of a time machine into 2015 Detroit, he'd rescind that statement in a hurry.
here's where it gets hairy: as The Decline picks up speed, there will come a day when the "democracy" pretense is finally dropped and replaced with autocratic rule, just like how the Roman Republic declined until it collapsed and emperors ruled as dictators with the Senate being a wealthy and affluent, but useless relic like the British monarchy. the kind of autocracy we'll be getting won't be the super-awesome, super-effective, nation-restoring kind that I envision, but the horrible, inept, unstable, mass-murdery, economy-destroying kind like you see in third-world shitholes.
'Just want some examples of constitutional stuff that you think is archaic.
imagine if you took the French constitution and tried to apply it to Sumerian society in 2000 BCE. it's like that, but in reverse. or to put it another way, how about the Code of Hammurabi applied to France in 2015. in either scenario it would be next to useless.
the American constitution was workable in its day, to the extent that our society still reflected the conditions that were present when it was devised. here's what wasn't present: atomization, social decay, economy instability, sky-high violent crime rates, widespread drug use, and technology that keeps us hermetically sealed from our neighbors. Ben Franklin is said to have written "Those who sacrifice essential liberty for temporary security deserve neither," but he said that in the context of utopian 18th century America. if he were to step out of a time machine into 2015 Detroit, he'd rescind that statement in a hurry.
here's where it gets hairy: as The Decline picks up speed, there will come a day when the "democracy" pretense is finally dropped and replaced with autocratic rule, just like how the Roman Republic declined until it collapsed and emperors ruled as dictators with the Senate being a wealthy and affluent, but useless relic like the British monarchy. the kind of autocracy we'll be getting won't be the super-awesome, super-effective, nation-restoring kind that I envision, but the horrible, inept, unstable, mass-murdery, economy-destroying kind like you see in third-world shitholes.