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tovaris
September 13th, 2015, 12:34 PM
Earlier this year, an Italian surgeon announced that he’ll be attempting the world’s first human head transplant, that despite the hurdles, a human head may actually be attached onto another person’s body in two years. This week, a donor was introduced, but according to at least one expert, this man might be facing something that’s “worse than death.”

It started in 2013, when Sergio Canavero of the Turin Advanced Neuromodulation Group proposed the idea of using surgery to extend the lives of people with degenerated muscles and nerves or cancer-permeated organs, New Scientist reports. Canavero summarized the 36-hour procedure he plans to follow in Surgical Neurology International in February of this year. He also plans to launch the project at the annual American Academy of Neurological and Orthopaedic Surgeons meeting in Maryland this June. He’ll need a staff of 150 doctors and nurses.

Is it actually possible to fuse two spinal cords and stop the recipient’s body from rejecting the new head? Last century attempts with dogs and monkeys resulted in animals who survived for a few days, though a more recent mouse head transplant showed that it was basically possible. "I think we are now at a point when the technical aspects are all feasible," Canavero says.

After cooling the donor’s body and the recipient’s head, neck tissue is dissected, blood vessels are linked with tubes, and the spinal cords are cleanly severed, New Scientist explains. With the new head on the body, the ends of the spinal cords are fused together using a chemical that prompts fat in cell membranes to connect. Muscles and blood vessels will be sutured, and the patient will be kept comatose as electrodes stimulate the spinal cord. He calls it HEAVEN, for head anastomosis venture (anastomosis is the surgical connection of two parts).

This week, a volunteer was announced: 30-year-old Valery Spiridonov of Vladimir, Russia, who suffers from a rare genetic disorder called Werdnig-Hoffman muscle wasting disease. He wants the chance at a new body before he dies. “Am I afraid? Yes, of course I am. But it is not just very scary, but also very interesting,” Spiridonov tells Daily Mail. “You have to understand that I don't really have many choices... If I don't try this chance my fate will be very sad. With every year my state is getting worse.”

But according to Hunt Batjer of the American Association for Neurological Surgeons, even if the airway, spine, and major veins and arteries are put together, the spinal cord will be the real problem. "I would not wish this on anyone,” Batjer tells CNN. “I would not allow anyone to do it to me, there are a lot of things worse than death." For starters, the patient might not be able to move or breathe. And Arthur Caplan of New York University thinks Canavero is nuts. "Their bodies would end up being overwhelmed with different pathways and chemistry than they are used to and they'd go crazy,” he tells CNN. Also, the high levels of anti-rejection meds will poison the body, and who knows if the recipients will fully gain the function of their new parts. "It's not like you can unscrew your head and put it on someone else," Caplan adds.

Still, Canavero insists, “we can already do this.”

Update: the surgery has now been scheduled for 2017.

Source: http://www.iflscience.com/health-and-medicine/head-transplant-volunteer-might-face-fate-more-terrifying-death,

Desuetude
September 13th, 2015, 12:39 PM
Well I think we'll be needing a couple of volunteers willing to die for science before we get anywhere stable. I guess theres just the debate about ethics at this point, it'll be an amazing feat if/when head transplants becomes safe.

lliam
September 13th, 2015, 02:35 PM
http://www.skyladawncameron.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/03/tumblr_m26i8pJjlR1qiz3j8o4_250.gif

dxcxdzv
September 13th, 2015, 02:50 PM
Excuse me but... trough the neck passes a lot of complicated stuff which can be a bit different from a human to another.
I mean, all the veins, arteries, cervical bones, nerves. Is it even possible to cut all that shit and fix it on another corpse?
The point on tests on animals wasn't to let them live a good life, they were at best vegetables.

tovaris
September 13th, 2015, 02:59 PM
Excuse me but... trough the neck passes a lot of complicated stuff which can be a bit different from a human to another.
I mean, all the veins, arteries, cervical bones, nerves. Is it even possible to cut all that shit and fix it on another corpse?
The point on tests on animals wasn't to let them live a good life, they were at best vegetables.

Whell we have sucsesfully transplanted arms.
And this man isnt all that better of than a vegetable to start with

dxcxdzv
September 13th, 2015, 03:05 PM
Yes arms is a thing, head (and so brain) is another. Way more complex, a simple error may instantly kill the patient.

lliam
September 13th, 2015, 03:19 PM
I still see no point in such transplantions.

Also I don't think it's a question of how complicated it is to transplant a head or not. To transplant a brain will be much more complicated, but is somehow feasible,, no matter how differently the inner physiques of human individuals may be structured.

Technically this is not a problem ... or it will not be someday.

The question is purely rather of ethical nature. Just because you're able to do something, it does not mean that you should do it.

dxcxdzv
September 13th, 2015, 03:28 PM
I still see no point in such transplantions.

Also I don't think it's a question of how complicated it is to transplant a head or not. To transplant a brain will be much more complicated, but is somehow feasible,, no matter how differently the inner physiques of human individuals may be structured.

Technically this is not a problem ... or it will not be someday.

The question is purely rather of ethical nature. Just because you're able to do something, it does not mean that you should do it.
As said above this could extremely profitable for people suffering of certain major health problems.

After, sure, the question about living with another person's body is like a mind-blowing H bomb.

phuckphace
September 13th, 2015, 09:13 PM
this nigga gonna get his chain taken away by the Citadel

eric2001
September 13th, 2015, 09:17 PM
It's important to get ahead in life.

" Eric the Philosopher"

Fractured Silhouette
September 13th, 2015, 09:52 PM
Well... technically it's a body transplant. I think it could be successful, but he'll probably have major body dysphoria and go insane.

lliam
September 14th, 2015, 04:01 PM
As said above this could extremely profitable for people suffering of certain major health problems..


This may not sound very humanistic or such, but in those cases I think, then it's better these people are freed by death of their sufferings.

dxcxdzv
September 14th, 2015, 04:10 PM
This may not sound very humanistic or such, but in those cases I think, then it's better these people are freed by death of their sufferings.
The capacity to think only just one second more, just to live one second more, worths a lot of things buddy.
Death doesn't free you of anything.
You gonna say to every paraplegic "it's better if you die, it means less suffering". I'm extrapolating but you see what I mean.

StoppingTom
September 14th, 2015, 04:14 PM
I'm more confused as to how the body would physically be able to function. If, somehow, this guy doesn't die immediately, how would the dead cells in the body he's being attched to be able to function again, go through mitosis, etc.?

Babs
September 14th, 2015, 04:48 PM
What to heck ????

I guess it'll be pretty cool if it's successful. I don't see why someone would willingly participate in something like this though.

StoppingTom
September 14th, 2015, 06:40 PM
What to heck ????

I guess it'll be pretty cool if it's successful. I don't see why someone would willingly participate in something like this though.

http://i.imgur.com/LhGvm8S.png

I guess in this instance, this guy doesn't have much left to lose, as his body is already deteriorating pretty rapidly. It's kind of sad though, this guy really doesn't have much to look forward to, as he either dies in this procedure (I'm really questioning this doctor's knowledge), the body rejects the head, or he dies slowly from his disease.

lliam
September 15th, 2015, 12:44 AM
The capacity to think only just one second more, just to live one second more, worths a lot of things buddy.
Death doesn't free you of anything.
You gonna say to every paraplegic "it's better if you die, it means less suffering". I'm extrapolating but you see what I mean.


This is a very personal definition of the value of life or in this case "the value to life" or "life at any costs"?


Well, I would never try to dissuade people who opt for this method of survival. Nor would I question the decision of someone who decides to die at a certain time fixed by him.

I just find those methods of transplantations are rather Stone Age then really modern science, because in my opinion there may be better methods of healing or so. Or let's say in this case - there will be better methods ... blabla.

Xawarus
September 16th, 2015, 10:34 AM
I highly doubt that will work. If it does, that wouldn't be good. I already see new crimes with people searching for new bodies.

dysterian
October 9th, 2015, 11:37 PM
They sound crazy :D

Microcosm
October 10th, 2015, 10:35 PM
I'm actually quite excited for this, though the surgery itself is brutal and revolting to me. I think it is a great step for science and if someone is willing to donate their lives to this, then I'm all for it.

I saw a video about the successful transplant of a monkey head once(a documentary I believe). The video discussed the complexities of a head transplant, but the speaker seemed confident in the feasibility of it. I don't see why it wouldn't be possible, and I also think it could(as has been previously said) prove very useful to people suffering from life-threatening diseases once it has been perfected.

KidWithTheHeadband
October 11th, 2015, 04:31 PM
We talked about this in my Science class at the beginning of the year. Seems like it would be pretty cool if this works out.

phuckphace
October 14th, 2015, 10:22 PM
I really and truly would not want to be this guy.

getting an organ transplant, even for like, a new kidney sucks big time. the body is nothing like a custom built PC where you can swap components at will. you have to stay on immunosuppressant drugs for the rest of your shortass life (average life expectancy = less than a decade) and due to having no immune system, you are constantly ill and even the common cold hits you like late-stage AIDS. I'd honestly just rather die.