new here ... surprising !

[qwerty1997]

hey guys
im 18 and from an islamic country ... in our religion(and also i think in other religions) sex relations before marriage is banned and of course a big sin ... then in this forum when i was reading the posts that teens had posted , i found that a lot of my agemates are engaged deeply in these relations !

just i can say : it was surprising for me !

[kissban]

Hi & wellcome :)

[qwerty1997]

anyone to answer ?

what has happened to teens ?!!!1

[thegreatgatz]

In western civilizations, we embrace our sexuality as a part of democracy and freedom. We realize that once we break down gender and moral barriers, a more just and prosperous society will be had for all!

[ashdaniel]

Welcome, that is call culture shocks. I have my traditional value but I am raise under the western culture. It is very common for teen having sexual relationship and the age was getting younger and younger.

[The captain]

welcome...I wanna still virgin until marriage but I know that a lot of my friends don't

[Vermilion]

hey guys
im 18 and from an islamic country ... in our religion(and also i think in other religions) sex relations before marriage is banned and of course a big sin ... then in this forum when i was reading the posts that teens had posted , i found that a lot of my agemates are engaged deeply in these relations !

just i can say : it was surprising for me !

Welcome to VT and that's the modern world for you. People have sex out side marriage and there are gay people. No harm is done.

[qwerty1997]

In western civilizations, we embrace our sexuality as a part of democracy and freedom. We realize that once we break down gender and moral barriers, a more just and prosperous society will be had for all!

i dont accept this way of thinking !
being immoral hurt the teens sprits

am i true ?

[qwerty1997]

Hi & wellcome :)

Welcome, that is call culture shocks. I have my traditional value but I am raise under the western culture. It is very common for teen having sexual relationship and the age was getting younger and younger.

Welcome

i dont accept this way of thinking !
being immoral hurt the teens sprits

am i true ?

thanks for welcoming !

[qwerty1997]

Welcome to VT and that's the modern world for you. People have sex out side marriage and there are gay people. No harm is done.

really no harm is done ????!!!

i know a lot girls in Europe that are hurted by teens (like me and u ! )

is not it a huge problem for modern world ?


i think the world is recessing in some aspects !

[Vermilion]

really no harm is done ????!!!

i know a lot girls in Europe that are hurted by teens (like me and u ! )

is not it a huge problem for modern world ?


i think the world is recessing in some aspects !

I'm 18 and a virgin but I know lots of people that have sex. They don't hurt anyone. Yes it's drunken mistakes a lot of the time. you have to understand that's it's normal here.

[qwerty1997]

I'm 18 and a virgin but I know lots of people that have sex. They don't hurt anyone. Yes it's drunken mistakes a lot of the time. you have to understand that's it's normal here.

so , are u satisfied with this fact in your city ?

[Vermilion]

so , are u satisfied with this fact in your city ?

my city is London. Be have a big gay seen and lots of night clubs. I didn't mind people having sex it's there choice. I wouldn't be with someone that's got a reputation for sleeping around.

[qwerty1997]

my city is London. Be have a big gay seen and lots of night clubs. I didn't mind people having sex it's there choice. I wouldn't be with someone that's got a reputation for sleeping around.

thanks for your answer

[Vermilion]

thanks for your answer

Your welcome :)

[thegreatgatz]

i dont accept this way of thinking !
being immoral hurt the teens sprits

am i true ?

Morality is largely subjective. In our cultures, we prefer to express our sexual desires. Stifling ones base urges is very unhealthy...read Freud.

[Zerg]

Being sexual is human nature

[Bluebyrd]

I've never understood why it's banned in those countries

[Bull]

First I want to say welcome to the VT family. We are divergent group from many nations. As to your religious views I respect where you are coming from. However, individuals must each make their own choice of sexual activity. We must allow others to make their choice and when it is different from ours we must respect their choice as we expect them to respect ours. We live in a diverse world and must recognize and respect the diversity. Mankind has a long history of not showing such respect, therefore war rages on and on and on. Peace to you my brother.

[qwerty1997]

I've never understood why it's banned in those countries

because these countries respect to God's will ... and try to obey that !

[qwerty1997]

First I want to say welcome to the VT family. We are divergent group from many nations. As to your religious views I respect where you are coming from. However, individuals must each make their own choice of sexual activity. We must allow others to make their choice and when it is different from ours we must respect their choice as we expect them to respect ours. We live in a diverse world and must recognize and respect the diversity. Mankind has a long history of not showing such respect, therefore war rages on and on and on. Peace to you my brother.

thanks for welcoming ...
despite we are from different nations , we are all human and have same Nature ... we all like purity and always want to have a pure and Virgin wife/husband... in another hand ,we ourselves are not pure !

so ,,, why should't be pure ! is not it cleaner ?

[Bull]

because these countries respect to God's will ... and try to obey that !

So, are you in agreement with the denial of freedom of choice? Are you in agreement that the state should have final say about one's personal life? Not arguing, just asking for clarification.

[Jaseblader]

hey guys
im 18 and from an islamic country ... in our religion(and also i think in other religions) sex relations before marriage is banned and of course a big sin ... then in this forum when i was reading the posts that teens had posted , i found that a lot of my agemates are engaged deeply in these relations !

just i can say : it was surprising for me !

Most other faiths don't really ban against it so most teens of other faiths do enjoy it

[lancezer]

hey guys
im 18 and from an islamic country ... in our religion(and also i think in other religions) sex relations before marriage is banned and of course a big sin ... then in this forum when i was reading the posts that teens had posted , i found that a lot of my agemates are engaged deeply in these relations !

just i can say : it was surprising for me !
asalamu alaikum :)

[Pat the Bunny]

Welcome, that is call culture shocks. I have my traditional value but I am raise under the western culture. It is very common for teen having sexual relationship and the age was getting younger and younger.

Well not really, it's a common thought, but teen pregnancy has actually been steadily declining for years

[northy]

thanks for welcoming ...


despite we are from different nations , we are all human and have same Nature ... we all like purity and always want to have a pure and Virgin wife/husband... in another hand ,we ourselves are not pure !





so ,,, why should't be pure ! is not it cleaner ?



Bear in mind that not everyone is Islamic and shares your beliefs. Many people are agnostic/ atheist and simply live their life how they want to without abiding to laws written in an ancient book.

[Mike Wazowski]

I've never had a sexual relationship with someone else

[Hermes]

Welcome, qwerty1997.

Probably the biggest difference with a community like this being outside an Islamic country is that we value free speech, the ability to have, and voice, an opinion above compliance with the doctrine of any particular religion. As such we sometimes have to agree to differ.

Regarding God's will we have at least three religions, Islamd, Christianity and Judaism which all have the same God but these three religions have different teachings. Religious texts have often been translated and some have been interpreted in various ways.

I think many of those in the west who are religious find it hard to believe that God would create humans such that they get horny and feel an unrepressable need to do something about it long before marriage and at the same time expect us not to respond to it.

Personally I believe that the strict controls on sexual behaviour preached by various religions are a human interpretation by human religious leaders which serve either to ensure children are born into a stable and loving environment with known paternity or as an instrument of social control.

So I believe masturbation is fine to do and is a good alternative to two person sex when you are not ready for sex. I believe that any sex between two people should be consensual. I think carelessly getting a girl pregnant such that she has to choose between bringing the child up in difficult circumstances or having an abortion is wrong. If you marry, and make a vow to be monogamous then you should keep it. Other than that do as you wish.

[jelly3000]

I guess that's the main difference between devoutly religious and secular countries.

It's seen as an expectation that it is not the government or church's right to say what happens in a persons bedroom. Many people in secular countries (including christians) hold similar beliefs such as what may be common in your home country. That is - sexual relationships are forbidden until married.

However, that's the difference in our cultures. You are allowed to hold beliefs but you are not allowed to force your beliefs on other people.

There are still stiff laws to make sure people are not exploited such as you cannot have relationships (sexual) under the age of 18 with someone 3 years younger or older than you.

It's also subjective if having sexual relationships before marriage is good or bad. Getting raped as a 15 yo is just as bad as getting raped in a forced marriage by your husband (I'm not saying this is a muslim thing - just giving an example).

It's the same the other way around. If you are two consenting people who take protection and know what decision you are making then what is the problem?

Humans are by nature sexual beings who have been programmed to want sex to help procreation. This is how many devout people in religion see sex (taking from a Christian persepective - don't know enough about other religions) but we are allowed to make our own decisions.

My personal belief is it's better to wait a little longer than having sexual relations with the first possible person, but when you are ready and the other person is ready physically and most importantly emotionally then it should be ok.

[qwerty1997]

i don't say that we can force others to do what we say or what we want ... but i say the governments can teach us (teens) to control our emotions not to encourage us to do what we desire !

[jelly3000]

Governments do try - but I'm not sure how much they can do even if they teach it in schools (which the do to some degree).

Being a teenager is about taking risks so we are eventually ready to leave home - what we need to do it try and make sure those risks are minimal (such as driving too fast or having unprotected sex).

A lot of this is also expected to be taught by our parents as well cause some people don't like governments making decisions on their behalf

[northy]

Why should we have to listen to governments when we evolved free will to do what we want? Obviously some things shouldn't be allowed because they are immoral e.g rape. Otherwise, I think that people should be allowed to do what they want, whether that means having sex outside of marriage.



Please consider that not everyone wants to get married. I don't as I consider it to be too religious. I would much rather have a celebration of my relationship than a marriage. Although, a legal marriage is beneficial so I will likely do this but have no ceremony. Just a celebration would be ideal. Marriage is about religion and God and I don't do either.

[Hermes]

i don't say that we can force others to do what we say or what we want ... but i say the governments can teach us (teens) to control our emotions not to encourage us to do what we desire !

In general people do need to be taught how to behave. People are taight not to steal and how to be polite etc. rather than just follow their instincts.

The sex drive is a bit of a strange casem though. One can direct it into activities that don't do anyone any harm, or take steps to mitigate risks, but it is very hard to supress it completely. if you say to someone who is horny - tought, just think about something else because you are not allowed to do anything about it, you are unlikely to suceed.

In the USA, partly because some parts have strong Christian beliefs, absitence has been seen as the cornerstone of sex education. The consequence of that has been a high rate of teeage pregnancy. Why? Because people don't see the government line on this as being relevant to them - it doesn't ackowledge the real world.

Some other countries, for example in most of Europe, have taught teens instead about the risks of pregnancy and STI, how the various methods of contraception work, and encouraged them to think for themselves about when it is right to have sex and to masturbate until that time arrives. The result is a much lower rate of teenage pregnancy.

I should say, of course, that by teenage pregnancy I mean pregnancy in a girl who has not completed her education and who is, almost certainly, not married.

[SethfromMI]

anyone to answer ?

what has happened to teens ?!!!1

what is the question? it is understandable you are surprised coming from your particular culture. for us, it is not surprising though

[JacobIN]

Its part of our freedoms...really in my opinion you shouldnt do it often, but we are humans and we all have...urges...that need to be satisfied. I really doubt its the worst thing we could do after all.