There will be war

[tovaris]

Given recent events all over the world. S China see and senses American provocations. Radicalization of the Balkans "powder cake". Americas humongous debt. Ukraine. Crimea. Fascism on the rise in Europe. ISIS....
Do you think WWIII is just around the corner? Will there be War? Are we close to WWIII

[mattsmith48]

If donald trump gets elected as president yes

[Collinsworthington]

i feel that there is a large conflict about to arise, not quite as big as most presumed ww3 predictions, but definetly casualties...

[Sir Suomi]

If it does it better wait until mid 2017. I don't want to miss out on all the fun

[Southside]

Not a World War type of event, but definitely I think there will be a major war in East Asia or somewhere in Eastern Europe.

So many fools who think nukes will be used, no country is dumb enough to do that.

[mattsmith48]

Not a World War type of event, but definitely I think there will be a major war in East Asia or somewhere in Eastern Europe.

So many fools who think nukes will be used, no country is dumb enough to do that.

Russia, Pakistan, China, North Korea (if they have any), and who ever is the Republican nominee are dumb enough

[Microcosm]

Maybe???? Nobody knows for sure. I feel like the modern world will avoid war for quite some time. Also, if world war 3 did start to seem like it was about to happen, the UN would probably step in and attempt a diplomatic solution.

It's possible I guess, only time will tell.

[phuckphace]

If donald trump gets elected as president yes

the Drumpfenkrieg! :D

sieg heil

[Judean Zealot]

I tend to think that the ongoing decentralization of power won't result in a single, huge "WWIII", but rather in a surge of local conflicts all over the place based on older rivalries that have until now only been suppressed by fears of various superpowers, particularly America.

[tonymontana99]

Not World War III like most people are saying, but some heavy shit's definitely going down. And I believe it will be started by ISIS.

http://www.express.co.uk/news/world/555434/Islamic-State-ISIS-Smuggler-THOUSANDS-Extremists-into-Europe-Refugees

They are getting richer and stronger as we speak. They have probably dozens of thousands of cells ready to strike at any given time and place all across Europe. When it happens, the citizens will open their eyes and rebel against the "humanitarians" who whined so much about letting people in, and troops will begin to roll out to Syria and the Middle-east to fight them. Enjoy when Abdul detonates a bomb in your city's shopping mall.

[Judean Zealot]

Not World War III like most people are saying, but some heavy shit's definitely going down. And I believe it will be started by ISIS.

http://www.express.co.uk/news/world/555434/Islamic-State-ISIS-Smuggler-THOUSANDS-Extremists-into-Europe-Refugees

They are getting richer and stronger as we speak. They have probably dozens of thousands of cells ready to strike at any given time and place all across Europe. When it happens, the citizens will open their eyes and rebel against the "humanitarians" who whined so much about letting people in, and troops will begin to roll out to Syria and the Middle-east to fight them. Enjoy when Abdul detonates a bomb in your city's shopping mall.

ISIS is already quite overextended, so I'm not quite sure they have the resources for any large scale European or American terror war.

To date the 'ISIS scares' in western countries were carried out primarily by loners with ISIS sympathies.

[tonymontana99]

ISIS is already quite overextended, so I'm not quite sure they have the resources for any large scale European or American terror war.

To date the 'ISIS scares' in western countries were carried out primarily by loners with ISIS sympathies.

Eh, I honestly don't know how easy it is for them to smuggle guns to Europe. But I'm also certain we'll have a mass shooting somewhere in the near future. Too many bad people coming in those boats.

[lliam]

Do you think WWIII is just around the corner? Will there be War? Are we close to WWIII



Under the sign of a globalized world you can imagine it like this:


Since political and especially economic interests are interlinked worldwide more and more, the current regional and local battlefields are scenes of a single global war.

This means that we just living in the midst of the WW3. :metal:

[phuckphace]

and to think, it was all so we could pay a couple bucks less for our shit at the store.

[Miserabilia]

Fuck, people are always close to world war 3; people are always close to war, it's just that nowadays any large war will turn into a world war.

[tovaris]

If it does it better wait until mid 2017. I don't want to miss out on all the fun


whay 2017?



Not a World War type of event, but definitely I think there will be a major war in East Asia or somewhere in Eastern Europe.
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That is not wery specific... But keep in mind that in both places two blocs are clashing, USA&NATO vs Russia in europe and USA&comonwelts and shit vs China... If usa clashes with any of these head on it might cause a run away war where big powers start actively suporting echoder and facing of the other side.


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So many fools who think nukes will be used, no country is dumb enough to do that.


Russia has just "instalde lates updates" to their nuke arsenal.


i feel that there is a large conflict about to arise, not quite as big as most presumed ww3 predictions, but definetly casualties...


We alredy have big conflicts going on, ISIS, New Russia...


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North Korea (if they have any),
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It is largly accepted they have wotking nukes, the only question is what can they hit with them, some say only S korea maybe japan, some say alasca, they say san francisco and more


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Also, if world war 3 did start to seem like it was about to happen, the UN would probably step in and attempt a diplomatic solution.
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Jeah thats because the UN has been so sucsesfull in the past... khm BiH etc etc...


I tend to think that the ongoing decentralization of power won't result in a single, huge "WWIII", but rather in a surge of local conflicts all over the place based on older rivalries that have until now only been suppressed by fears of various superpowers, particularly America.


But we see the polarization of the world once again the USA block and the Russia/China block.


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Enjoy when Abdul detonates a bomb in your city's shopping mall.


Meh, we dont interest them, nejoy your creation America


Under the sign of a globalized world you can imagine it like this:


Since political and especially economic interests are interlinked worldwide more and more, the current regional and local battlefields are scenes of a single global war.

This means that we just living in the midst of the WW3. :metal:


You are offering me the "McDonalds theory" (every county has a mcdonalda thersore it is not in their economic interest to fight) so widely proposed in the late 80s. The end of history as they said... But than we saw masive (admitedly localized) conflicts in the 90s all the way to 2000...
And now when the world has repolarized....


Fuck, people are always close to world war 3; people are always close to war, it's just that nowadays any large war will turn into a world war.


I second that, any large war will start a snowbal efect.

[Sir Suomi]

whay 2017?



That's when I'll be all done with my Combat Engineer training :P

[JustinG]

Personally, i think it has ALREAdy started. But in a financial and humanitarian front. Guns havent been fired yet, but they seem to be loading up the chambers !g

[tovaris]

That's when I'll be all done with my Combat Engineer training :P

Wait you are alredy in this military training thing?

[Sir Suomi]

Wait you are alredy in this military training thing?

I ship out next May and I'll be at Boot for 2 months. After that, I finish my senior year, and then spend 4 weeks for my final phase of training.

[lliam]

it is not in their economic interest to fight) so widely proposed in the late 80s.


Never heard of this theory. And I avoid McD.^^

Nevertheless, imo wars are also performed in order to open up new markets.

If I were sarcastic, I also could apply this to the level of saturated markets and claim that through the act of (war) destruction old markets are revived.

Therefore, war is indeed a means of high economic interests.

[tovaris]

I ship out next May and I'll be at Boot for 2 months. After that, I finish my senior year, and then spend 4 weeks for my final phase of training.

Eh dont wory my liztle kanon fötr, since you are alredy in a militari training sistem theyll pull you in right when it starts, first line for you ;-)
Thats how militaris round the world work. Our army even has summer camps for children and kids, a d that also gives you precidenc when shot goes down and they need to inrole everione before the calmon citizen.

[Meruedu]

I don't really know, I saw the former Prezident of my country on the TV a few days ago and he said that the WW3 will be about the refugees. The conflict is there, I don't doubt that something bad will happen while I'm alive and possibly young, but I'm really terrified by it. It doesn't matter what is the cause of war, I'm really scared.

[Sugaree]

Russia, Pakistan, China, North Korea (if they have any), and who ever is the Republican nominee are dumb enough

Yes, blame the Republican candidate. Because obviously there would be no war if there was a Democra-...wait, didn't Obama send in military to Libya in 2011 to conduct strikes on their batshit crazy leader? And didn't he also bypass Congress in ordering drone strikes in Syria and Afghanistan on unverified targets? BUT WAIT, HE PULLED US OUT OF AFGHANISTAN AND IRAQ, S'ALL GOOD MANE.

A military is not bred to start war; it is bred to both prevent war and, if war does become the only option, be quick and responsive. If you don't want war, learn to defend yourself and show that you aren't afraid to stand for yourself.


If anything, the next major war is going to be on the scale of World War I. You'll see millions, if not near a billion or more, die. They'll be civilians and soldiers alike. With chemical and nuclear weapons in existence, there's no doubt in my mind that the former would be used daily. The thing that really scares me, however, is nuclear weaponry. Mutually assured destruction can only make you safe for as long as it takes for the shock wave from the bomb blasts to subside and the mushroom cloud to become 5 miles high.

I don't think people really understand how big another war can be. I hear a lot of people bring up more recent wars, like Iraq and Afghanistan, but we're not talking about some piddly shit excuse for war like Iraq. We're talking about entire populations of people being eradicated from the planet, if not the near entirety of the human race by hell fire. While the war itself won't immediately go nuclear, it will gradually escalate to that level, make no doubt about it.

As far as what the war will be fought over...that could be a number of things. The refugee "crisis" that's leaking into Hungary and other European countries isn't really that new of an issue. This crisis has been going on for years in Lebanon and multiple other Middle Eastern countries because of the Syrian Civil War. It's only just now that these civilians are entering into Europe because their camps are being destroyed by the likes of the Islamic State. There's nowhere else for them to go. So when you hear someone saying that this refugee crisis came out of nowhere, they're denying that there was ever a crisis in the first place.

Personally, I think another World War will be fought over multiple reasons. It seems to be centering over the balance of weaponry more than anything, with highly belligerent countries like North Korea and Iran having the capability of producing nuclear warheads.

With countries like Russia invading the Crimea region of Ukraine - which clearly violated multiple Geneva Convention laws - and China becoming increasingly protective of the South China Sea (which it seceded any territorial claim to many decades ago), there's definitely not a good feeling of security.

The United States, while not necessarily the largest country, has been known to have a strong and formidable army in the past. Seeing the army reduced to below post-WWII levels is, in my opinion, unacceptable and disgraceful. While we don't have to have an army that is overflowing with people, we can't have a severely reduced force that could barely contain a homeland invasion. Just look at our southern border with Mexico and how many migrants are crossing over. There's nothing stopping them, and you know what that means? It means that you're going to have the Mexican drug cartels and gangs transferring all of their shit because no one is stopping them. The whole world sees this happening, yet we're told that our border patrol agents are racists who profile based on how brown your skin is.

While the US can't inject itself into every little thing that happens, we can't just sit idle and wait for something to happen to us. Being prepared is half the battle; while we can't be everywhere all the time, we can at least be prepared for what may lead to a large-scale operation.

[drunkbanana17]

With all the refugees ( of which a noticeable percent is assholes ) that are disappointed in Europe and ( don't call me racist) the rise in crimes like rape in Europe that are thought to be committed mostly by immigrants , if a revolution kinda thing takes place or organized terrorist attacks that would mean war