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August 17th, 2015, 04:34 AM
Slovenian rockers Laibach to play as first foreign band in North Korea
http://www.dw.com/image/0,,18586489_303,00.jpgMajor slovenian comercial TV station will be the only foreign TV station covering the event!!
Im only going to google translate the article because i realy dont feel like translating it, any questions due to bad translation feel g+free to pm.
"If only one sown the seeds of doubt in one of the party leadership apparatus ..."
Pop TV journalist Jure Tepina with Laibach removes North Korea. Prior to this we have invited for an interview.
http://www.delo.si/assets/media/picture/20150813/670x420_Jure_Tepina_4.jpg?rev=0
Jure Tepina does not hide that, as a journalist want to put on more dangerous and unusual areas, it is one of the rare Slovenian journalists who had already been in North Korea to close, controversial and mysterious country he visited in 2012.
This time there eliminates secondly, because it will for Pop TV covered the events surrounding the highly anticipated concert of Laibach. With us he shared expectations and anecdotes from previous trips, among other things told us that North Korea is not impossible to get - on a flight from Pyongyang to Beijing he met Slovene.
When we talked to the editorial office of the challenge that awaits you, we as a little envy. Why you?
I have many journalistic colleagues, who would you want to go next, but not for nothing did. Actually it is not so difficult, but you need a lot of time, patience and tactics. Before I went there in 2012, I was almost two years into contact. The only contact for this part of Europe, their embassy in Vienna, Ambassador there work is brother of the late Kim Jong-yl. If you like him, he immediately better. With him I had a conversation, I told him that I do not care what they write propaganda and foreign media, but that he would like to see what is there. When they had the 100th anniversary of the birth of Kim Il-Sung, we have made much celebration and there invited 20 journalists from around the world, among them, I was selected too. After this trip, I liaise with them, invited me to Congress Juche, their ideology, but I thank them that I am a political indoctrination schools are not interested. For us it was also their consul and then I helped him get in a few contacts. I therefore nurture this bond now in concert, Laibach, I redeem it.
What do you know about what is happening there? You will at all times with the group?
http://www.delo.si/assets/media/picture/20150813/670x420_djvu_1941571_roglict_vidic-schengengest.jpeg?rev=1
I know very little, as much as Laibach. Each organization is in the hands of its Committee for Cultural Relations, which involved the Norwegian Morten Traavik, who organized the concert. In Beijing to get by Laibach, with them I will be in the hotel, I depend on them. Norwegians on preparing a documentary film, there will be AP and the Russian Press Agency, but we'll only television. When you're there, you do not know what will happen, you have to be ready for anything. The only certain thing is that everything is uncertain. It is not dangerous, only an unpredictable and different.
Even what you know, what preparation Laibach? Who wants to shock, Koreans us all?
In Laibach music is in last place, I see them as a philosophical conceptual idea. Even if they know what they will do, they will not tell. They said they want to shock all out of North Korea, allowing them to thrive now excellent. The concert repertoire is known, it will be the same as at the last Slovenian concert songs from the musical The Sound of Music will be there in order to have the subtle meaning. The key question is, what effect will this concert. Nobody knows who will be at the concert, or will that just older party delegates or even any younger. Well, they certainly will be well checked, as everyone in Pyongyang. You must know that you can ask anyone in Pyongyang anything and each will tell the same story, they do not need any more control. They will say that it is all to blame imperialist America, that are to blame Western powers that they would like to join with South Korea, that war is a terrible thing, and that their leader most beautiful. You have no options but to go to the countryside, you can not to the area where the camp was. It is also true that the only information that we, those of immigrants who are not credible because they are suffering. Most of the information comes to us from the US, Russian, Chinese or South Korean intelligence service. We hear stories that Kim Jong-un's uncle threw the dog and killed his aunt with a gun, then half a year later, we learn that this story you invented in South Korea. There is so much misinformation that North Korea simply have to see with your own eyes.
And what do you see?
You know that nothing is as it seems that all the scenery, but still see it. When he died, Kim Jong-il, I watched the videos and I said to myself: you bastards, how can naščuvajo children to cry on the road. All understand, just leave the kids alone. When I was there, I saw that they really so think and feel. This land is closed to the south and to the north and is on the peninsula, without problems can be hermetically closed their borders, they have done during the bird flu. When we went to the cameraman at the airport, I was in Beijing bought čokoladke and when we got there, the soldiers watched and turned those Snickers, did not even know what it is. Only a translator explained to them. All these generations have lived without the impact of the West and I do not know. When Kim Jong-un for the first time spoke, wept, though none of them stood with a gun. Therefore, the trip Laibach there is certainly controversial, even late, we will not know what the effect will be. But if planted just one seed of doubt in a young aparatčiku the party leadership, this is already a lot. Morten Traavik is right when he says that Laibach terribly misunderstood, like North Korea, and that they go there is something more logical.
But why also those of all the groups in the world? John Oliver is fun to be invited Rolling Stones ...
Laibach are best suited for breaking prejudices foreign to North Korea. Rolling Stones, U2 or Eric Clapton by the family loves, he would probably tear in the West where to go to play to people who systematically violate human rights. When looking at the side of North Korea, it is also unlikely that there would descend west profiled band, because it would be so open to all Western influence. Pornography is strictly forbidden there, there's nobody but tourists not wearing jeans, there are commanded hairstyles, clothes and behavior. Laibach are somewhere between art and pop, there has already appeared a lot of classical musicians. Certainly they do not understand all their subtle connotations, but also because they do not understand.
Surely you have a bunch of anecdotes of previous visits to this country? Right now, for example, in North Korea moving clocks half an hour ago ..
It is as if you have your own country, you can come up with is that you will no longer have the same time as the Japanese because they do not like ...
http://twitter.com/LaibachCommunit/status/617378219629654016/photo/1
As if we could move the clock half an hour unlike Croatians ...
(Laughs) Exactly. And they are enthusiastic about this idea of the beautiful Kim Jong-una. Above all, I thought it was fascinating how they believe in his life and his regime. Young people have the opportunity to go to study in China, there have access to the Chinese Facebook and Twitter are much more liberal than at home. Then they say, it's great to have such a luxury there, but they're going back to your beautiful country. Chances are otherwise little afraid that if they stayed, they will kill the entire family, but a part of them really believe that they live in the most beautiful country in the world. When I was talking to a girl, I explained that the facebook and the internet, but just do not have access out. When someone ask for e-mail, tell you the name and surname when they ask what followed after afni, they tell you that do not. To receive television waiting even after two years, but this they find quite normal. Instead, we should not be judged by our eyes.
How did you feel there as a foreigner?
Everything is like Alice in Wonderland, everything is the same, but completely different. The car is a car, but other than that would be stuck in the 50s, as it would then someone stopped time, not only judging by things mentally also. Even the smell is completely different than on another planet. Who called it unfortunate but want to experience it than in the adrenaline park. You are not endangered, but you happy when you get back.
Would a foreign journalist can get to Kim Jong-una?
You do not have access to it if you do the four steps in the wrong way, this friendly warning. You can get a few meters up to him and start shooting, you can not ask him anything. It does not give interviews for their release. The most you can hope is that it will appear on which of these two concerts, or in celebration of the 70th anniversary of the liberation from the Japanese. But everything is unpredictable, as a journalist you are just an observer, you can not actively seek stories.
What if there is someone ponorčeval of Kim Jong-Una is a mountain "climbed" in the patent shoes? With us, we tend to be everyone makes fun of the President, who mows the lawn ...
There are accustomed to if you make fun of the President, you go, you and your family in the camp. But because we did not make fun of Tito, our grandparents believed in the cult of personality. Nobody picks up the gun and forcing them to believe, just do not know that somewhere some Pahor, who mows the lawn and it is terribly popular president. Even Kim Jong-un is terribly popular president. Because we did not know how they lived Tito and Stalin, but these are the kings of their kingdoms, and they can do what they want. Where is it written that we are not indoctrinated. We are just in a different way. Pahor calendars are very similar to the calendar in North Korea. It is necessary to have a critical distance to all of the arrangements. Therefore, Laibach as well fit into this story, because criticizing all the arrangements. First, they criticize dictatorship, then capitalism, which they did not constitute the best choice they have criticism of North Korea. Laibach in Pyongyang, which has some of the most logical.
source: http://www.delo.si/kultura/glasba/ce-bo-zasejano-le-eno-seme-dvoma-v-enem-partijskem-aparatciku.html,
sory for the language thing but no foreighn english based sites are covering this
here is a related artice in english: http://www.dw.com/en/slovenian-rockers-laibach-to-play-as-first-foreign-band-in-north-korea/a-18586481
http://www.dw.com/image/0,,18586489_303,00.jpgMajor slovenian comercial TV station will be the only foreign TV station covering the event!!
Im only going to google translate the article because i realy dont feel like translating it, any questions due to bad translation feel g+free to pm.
"If only one sown the seeds of doubt in one of the party leadership apparatus ..."
Pop TV journalist Jure Tepina with Laibach removes North Korea. Prior to this we have invited for an interview.
http://www.delo.si/assets/media/picture/20150813/670x420_Jure_Tepina_4.jpg?rev=0
Jure Tepina does not hide that, as a journalist want to put on more dangerous and unusual areas, it is one of the rare Slovenian journalists who had already been in North Korea to close, controversial and mysterious country he visited in 2012.
This time there eliminates secondly, because it will for Pop TV covered the events surrounding the highly anticipated concert of Laibach. With us he shared expectations and anecdotes from previous trips, among other things told us that North Korea is not impossible to get - on a flight from Pyongyang to Beijing he met Slovene.
When we talked to the editorial office of the challenge that awaits you, we as a little envy. Why you?
I have many journalistic colleagues, who would you want to go next, but not for nothing did. Actually it is not so difficult, but you need a lot of time, patience and tactics. Before I went there in 2012, I was almost two years into contact. The only contact for this part of Europe, their embassy in Vienna, Ambassador there work is brother of the late Kim Jong-yl. If you like him, he immediately better. With him I had a conversation, I told him that I do not care what they write propaganda and foreign media, but that he would like to see what is there. When they had the 100th anniversary of the birth of Kim Il-Sung, we have made much celebration and there invited 20 journalists from around the world, among them, I was selected too. After this trip, I liaise with them, invited me to Congress Juche, their ideology, but I thank them that I am a political indoctrination schools are not interested. For us it was also their consul and then I helped him get in a few contacts. I therefore nurture this bond now in concert, Laibach, I redeem it.
What do you know about what is happening there? You will at all times with the group?
http://www.delo.si/assets/media/picture/20150813/670x420_djvu_1941571_roglict_vidic-schengengest.jpeg?rev=1
I know very little, as much as Laibach. Each organization is in the hands of its Committee for Cultural Relations, which involved the Norwegian Morten Traavik, who organized the concert. In Beijing to get by Laibach, with them I will be in the hotel, I depend on them. Norwegians on preparing a documentary film, there will be AP and the Russian Press Agency, but we'll only television. When you're there, you do not know what will happen, you have to be ready for anything. The only certain thing is that everything is uncertain. It is not dangerous, only an unpredictable and different.
Even what you know, what preparation Laibach? Who wants to shock, Koreans us all?
In Laibach music is in last place, I see them as a philosophical conceptual idea. Even if they know what they will do, they will not tell. They said they want to shock all out of North Korea, allowing them to thrive now excellent. The concert repertoire is known, it will be the same as at the last Slovenian concert songs from the musical The Sound of Music will be there in order to have the subtle meaning. The key question is, what effect will this concert. Nobody knows who will be at the concert, or will that just older party delegates or even any younger. Well, they certainly will be well checked, as everyone in Pyongyang. You must know that you can ask anyone in Pyongyang anything and each will tell the same story, they do not need any more control. They will say that it is all to blame imperialist America, that are to blame Western powers that they would like to join with South Korea, that war is a terrible thing, and that their leader most beautiful. You have no options but to go to the countryside, you can not to the area where the camp was. It is also true that the only information that we, those of immigrants who are not credible because they are suffering. Most of the information comes to us from the US, Russian, Chinese or South Korean intelligence service. We hear stories that Kim Jong-un's uncle threw the dog and killed his aunt with a gun, then half a year later, we learn that this story you invented in South Korea. There is so much misinformation that North Korea simply have to see with your own eyes.
And what do you see?
You know that nothing is as it seems that all the scenery, but still see it. When he died, Kim Jong-il, I watched the videos and I said to myself: you bastards, how can naščuvajo children to cry on the road. All understand, just leave the kids alone. When I was there, I saw that they really so think and feel. This land is closed to the south and to the north and is on the peninsula, without problems can be hermetically closed their borders, they have done during the bird flu. When we went to the cameraman at the airport, I was in Beijing bought čokoladke and when we got there, the soldiers watched and turned those Snickers, did not even know what it is. Only a translator explained to them. All these generations have lived without the impact of the West and I do not know. When Kim Jong-un for the first time spoke, wept, though none of them stood with a gun. Therefore, the trip Laibach there is certainly controversial, even late, we will not know what the effect will be. But if planted just one seed of doubt in a young aparatčiku the party leadership, this is already a lot. Morten Traavik is right when he says that Laibach terribly misunderstood, like North Korea, and that they go there is something more logical.
But why also those of all the groups in the world? John Oliver is fun to be invited Rolling Stones ...
Laibach are best suited for breaking prejudices foreign to North Korea. Rolling Stones, U2 or Eric Clapton by the family loves, he would probably tear in the West where to go to play to people who systematically violate human rights. When looking at the side of North Korea, it is also unlikely that there would descend west profiled band, because it would be so open to all Western influence. Pornography is strictly forbidden there, there's nobody but tourists not wearing jeans, there are commanded hairstyles, clothes and behavior. Laibach are somewhere between art and pop, there has already appeared a lot of classical musicians. Certainly they do not understand all their subtle connotations, but also because they do not understand.
Surely you have a bunch of anecdotes of previous visits to this country? Right now, for example, in North Korea moving clocks half an hour ago ..
It is as if you have your own country, you can come up with is that you will no longer have the same time as the Japanese because they do not like ...
http://twitter.com/LaibachCommunit/status/617378219629654016/photo/1
As if we could move the clock half an hour unlike Croatians ...
(Laughs) Exactly. And they are enthusiastic about this idea of the beautiful Kim Jong-una. Above all, I thought it was fascinating how they believe in his life and his regime. Young people have the opportunity to go to study in China, there have access to the Chinese Facebook and Twitter are much more liberal than at home. Then they say, it's great to have such a luxury there, but they're going back to your beautiful country. Chances are otherwise little afraid that if they stayed, they will kill the entire family, but a part of them really believe that they live in the most beautiful country in the world. When I was talking to a girl, I explained that the facebook and the internet, but just do not have access out. When someone ask for e-mail, tell you the name and surname when they ask what followed after afni, they tell you that do not. To receive television waiting even after two years, but this they find quite normal. Instead, we should not be judged by our eyes.
How did you feel there as a foreigner?
Everything is like Alice in Wonderland, everything is the same, but completely different. The car is a car, but other than that would be stuck in the 50s, as it would then someone stopped time, not only judging by things mentally also. Even the smell is completely different than on another planet. Who called it unfortunate but want to experience it than in the adrenaline park. You are not endangered, but you happy when you get back.
Would a foreign journalist can get to Kim Jong-una?
You do not have access to it if you do the four steps in the wrong way, this friendly warning. You can get a few meters up to him and start shooting, you can not ask him anything. It does not give interviews for their release. The most you can hope is that it will appear on which of these two concerts, or in celebration of the 70th anniversary of the liberation from the Japanese. But everything is unpredictable, as a journalist you are just an observer, you can not actively seek stories.
What if there is someone ponorčeval of Kim Jong-Una is a mountain "climbed" in the patent shoes? With us, we tend to be everyone makes fun of the President, who mows the lawn ...
There are accustomed to if you make fun of the President, you go, you and your family in the camp. But because we did not make fun of Tito, our grandparents believed in the cult of personality. Nobody picks up the gun and forcing them to believe, just do not know that somewhere some Pahor, who mows the lawn and it is terribly popular president. Even Kim Jong-un is terribly popular president. Because we did not know how they lived Tito and Stalin, but these are the kings of their kingdoms, and they can do what they want. Where is it written that we are not indoctrinated. We are just in a different way. Pahor calendars are very similar to the calendar in North Korea. It is necessary to have a critical distance to all of the arrangements. Therefore, Laibach as well fit into this story, because criticizing all the arrangements. First, they criticize dictatorship, then capitalism, which they did not constitute the best choice they have criticism of North Korea. Laibach in Pyongyang, which has some of the most logical.
source: http://www.delo.si/kultura/glasba/ce-bo-zasejano-le-eno-seme-dvoma-v-enem-partijskem-aparatciku.html,
sory for the language thing but no foreighn english based sites are covering this
here is a related artice in english: http://www.dw.com/en/slovenian-rockers-laibach-to-play-as-first-foreign-band-in-north-korea/a-18586481