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Left Now
August 9th, 2015, 03:50 AM
First of anything hi!

Well during Afganistan Civil War and the time that Taliban was gaining influence in Afghanistan to become the ultimate power very soon after that,lots of Afghanistanis came to Iran as refugees and immigrants.Many of them were granted citizenship by then government,although later lots of them got involved in Drug Trafficing and other crimes,but still most majority of them were all but good.

Unfortunately since the time they entered Iran,many of them were abused as low-salary part-time construction workers by Building Dealers who were gaining lots of econominc power during Privatization of some economic sections of country,legal and illegal refugees alongside each others but mostly illegal ones,without insurance and job assurance,or become criminals mostly involved in drug related matters.However,many others who were nearly all legal citizens,succeeded to get really better jobs or become full-time enough-salary workers with equal rights to Iranian workers.Now I think most Afghans in Iran are legal citizens.

Anyway,recently there was a problem about illegal refugees' children for their education.They could not get to schools because of not being legally Iranians,but high officials decided that they must be granted that right to educate in public schools,even if they do not have money or any IDs.

I liked the idea but many are against it,saying that it would do more harm than good to Iran's recent-progressed economy and society and education system,but I believe it will lower the crime rate,let their talents and potentials to be revealed and at the end can be beneficial for both Iran and Afghanistan,if anytime they decided to return,but still it has its own opposition..

What do you people think about it?Have you ever had the same conditions in your countries too?

Stronk Serb
August 9th, 2015, 06:40 AM
Education is key. If they are taught that you can live nicely without any crimes, it's going to reduce crime in the next generation. A side question, was Afghanistan a part of the Persian Empire?

Left Now
August 9th, 2015, 10:22 AM
Not Persian Empire.Persia is just a region in Iran.

Iran,Afghanistan,Tajikistan,Iraq,Azerbaijan and Turkamanestan were all part of a region named "Greater Iran",which is now mostly in Iranian Plateau.Actually these countries are all Iranic countries,with different sections of Iranic culture.

Living For Love
August 9th, 2015, 03:59 PM
No, if they remain illegal, they shouldn't have the same privileges as native citizens. At least that's how I see it, it's unfair and humiliating.

Left Now
August 9th, 2015, 04:34 PM
No, if they remain illegal, they shouldn't have the same privileges as native citizens. At least that's how I see it, it's unfair and humiliating.

Well,they are still in a way are becoming a minor ethnic group of the country and keeping them uneducated will just bring instability to the place where they are residing.On the other hand,if they get educated they will have greater chance to become full dual citizens of both countries and help each two of them to progress.

Babs
August 9th, 2015, 04:39 PM
I think it's a good idea. Yes, some are illegal, but what choice did they have?
Education gives people the tools they need to stand up on their own. Otherwise, they're more likely to get into drug trafficking to survive.

Left Now
August 10th, 2015, 04:39 AM
I think it's a good idea. Yes, some are illegal, but what choice did they have?
Education gives people the tools they need to stand up on their own. Otherwise, they're more likely to get into drug trafficking to survive.

Actually,most of the drag trafficing from Afghanistan to Europe are transfered through here and many of these illegal immigrants are involved in it.I believe Afghanistan and Afghans in general deserve more than these.They are people of a land where we owe many of our cultural heritages to them.They must not be left like this,even if some ultra racist Farsis here disagree with this.

With their next generation be educated,they have a better chance for cooperating with our next generation and also if a day they want to return to their own country,they can improve its conditions and it is also really great for us.More earning through trade,less wasting of sources for preventing crimes and...

phuckphace
August 10th, 2015, 07:59 AM
lol the great shit-cycle of immigration

1) hey let's let in a shitload of random poors just 'cause
2) oh hell now they're trafficking drugs, but not to worry, giving them more free shit will fix it
3) hey wait a minute now all the educated ones are moving back home, wtf guys we helped you out
4) "Error: Insufficient funds"
5) REPEAT

I thought it was just white people who pull this shit, but even Nebuchadnezzar can't resist the lure of cheap labor

Left Now
August 10th, 2015, 09:08 AM
lol the great shit-cycle of immigration

1) hey let's let in a shitload of random poors just 'cause
2) oh hell now they're trafficking drugs, but not to worry, giving them more free shit will fix it
3) hey wait a minute now all the educated ones are moving back home, wtf guys we helped you out
4) "Error: Insufficient funds"
5) REPEAT

I thought it was just white people who pull this shit, but even Nebuchadnezzar can't resist the lure of cheap labor

They were not intended to enter Iran at first.Even if then government was not going to accept them they would enter illegally and everything would be worse.