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Let Me Be a Pony
August 7th, 2015, 02:21 AM
... A black man uses the "N" word on another black man.
What if the other black man by a small chance finds that as a racial insult?
Can he be sued by law?
The law states this:
The law prohibits discrimination and discriminatory aggression by public and private institutions and individuals, creates a governmental Committee Against Racism and All Forms of Discrimination.
What is discrimination? The unjust or prejudicial treatment of different categories of people, especially on the grounds of race, age, or sex.
AKA, it wouldn't be racism to me if a black person uses the "N" word on his own kind.
Had a huge ass debate with a friend about this shit. He sent me the law of discrimination, but problem is that he forgot what the word "discrimination" actually stands for. Still thinks it's racist by law if a black man uses the "N" word on his own kind.
Debate.
phuckphace
August 7th, 2015, 02:33 AM
this is a really pointless debate that pops up every now and then. my own level of care is somewhere around the Planck scale
Sir Suomi
August 7th, 2015, 10:55 AM
From what I've seen I never see other blacks being offended by the word when used by another black person. It's only when it's used by someone outside of their race that it becomes an issue. Double standards much?
Vermilion
August 7th, 2015, 11:24 AM
In the UK it wouldn't been seen as a problem. At school a lot of people in the year below were black and they would call each other it all the time no problem. But if a white person I'm my year group used it we would be called racist and the school would get involved. However if a black person said something to offend a white person the school won't do anything. Racism goes always.
phuckphace
August 7th, 2015, 11:41 AM
I never understood why why the "other N-word" Negro became offensive. it's literally just the Spanish word for "black", as is still seen in usages like "frijoles negros" (black beans). the same word in English "black" is the standard non-offensive term but a loanword that means exactly the same thing is frowned upon. omg my racist grandpa says that word, he needs to die already, etc. whatever. caught myself caring
Sir Suomi
August 7th, 2015, 11:52 AM
I never understood why why the "other N-word" Negro became offensive. it's literally just the Spanish word for "black", as is still seen in usages like "frijoles negros" (black beans). the same word in English "black" is the standard non-offensive term but a loanword that means exactly the same thing is frowned upon. omg my racist grandpa says that word, he needs to die already, etc. whatever. caught myself caring
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mattsmith48
August 7th, 2015, 01:01 PM
... A black man uses the "N" word on another black man.
What if the other black man by a small chance finds that as a racial insult?
Can he be sued by law?
The law states this:
The law prohibits discrimination and discriminatory aggression by public and private institutions and individuals, creates a governmental Committee Against Racism and All Forms of Discrimination.
What is discrimination? The unjust or prejudicial treatment of different categories of people, especially on the grounds of race, age, or sex.
AKA, it wouldn't be racism to me if a black person uses the "N" word on his own kind.
Had a huge ass debate with a friend about this shit. He sent me the law of discrimination, but problem is that he forgot what the word "discrimination" actually stands for. Still thinks it's racist by law if a black man uses the "N" word on his own kind.
Debate.
You can't sue someone just because he said the N word
Zenos
August 7th, 2015, 01:43 PM
From what I've seen I never see other blacks being offended by the word when used by another black person. It's only when it's used by someone outside of their race that it becomes an issue. Double standards much?
I've seen a lot of older blacks get offended over the word! But then they tend to have more self-respect and dignity!
Zachary G
August 7th, 2015, 02:27 PM
I dont know if one man of color can use another man of color for racist remarks if he calls him the N word, but I can see where he would be offended by it because those who constantly use the N word have a lower level of self respect than those who choose not to and are offended by it.
Let Me Be a Pony
August 7th, 2015, 04:19 PM
Apparently, the Federal jury has ruled it illegal to use the N-word while at work even if you're black.
Stronk Serb
August 7th, 2015, 04:33 PM
When I would call a black man a negro, I would be labeled a racist, but if a black man would call me a cracker or white trash, he wouldn't get the same label.
Dalcourt
August 7th, 2015, 05:05 PM
I have been discussing these things so often with my white and my black family members and friends and it always proofed to be pointless. And these discussions make me always wonder where that leaves us mixed race people???
Microcosm
August 7th, 2015, 05:35 PM
The legality of such a things seems to be easy to answer. We should obviously be able to say it even if it's in an insulting tone. I don't think the government(especially in the US) really has any say on that in most cases. I should be able to say whatever I want unless it's a threat or something of that measure.
Of course, usage of the word seems no better than cursing in my opinion. It's just a rude thing to say, really. It should totally be looked down upon. I also don't think the government really has a right to say we can't do it in a work place or something. The workplace should set their own standards on it.
It isn't really "racist" either. I mean I guess it would sort of be because your categorizing them, but who really cares. I mean people get categorized all the time. The true form of racism that is the most prevalent is when someone gets denied a job because of it or something like that. That is way more important than some ass hole wanting to categorize someone by race strictly to insult them.
But yeah, my verdict is: It's rude but should be legal bc free speech.
Babs
August 7th, 2015, 10:10 PM
Are there even any anti-discrimination laws that include speech? Pretty sure that's mostly like refusing service or firing people and shit like that.
Obviously using the N-word to disparage black people is a bad thing to do but what's the government gonna do?
Let Me Be a Pony
August 8th, 2015, 02:11 AM
You can't sue someone just because he said the N word
By law, you can.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2409824/Federal-jury-rules-illegal-use-N-word-work-youre-black.html
mattsmith48
August 8th, 2015, 10:28 AM
By law, you can.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2409824/Federal-jury-rules-illegal-use-N-word-work-youre-black.html
that is against freedom of speech and it depends what country your in. In some way im not surprise the US made a word illeagal
Babs
August 8th, 2015, 03:18 PM
that is against freedom of speech and it depends what country your in. In some way im not surprise the US made a word illeagal
The U.S. didn't make the word illegal. You can sue for basically anything, but that doesn't make it illegal. I could sue my brother for eating the last banana or some garbage like that. Whether the lawsuit works out is another story.
ObliviousCat
August 15th, 2015, 09:31 AM
It's not against the law to be a racist person.
It is only against the law to discriminate against age, gender, race, etc. However, we have the First Amendment to turn to.
We have a right to freedom of speech.
Calling someone the "N" word, which is considered racist by the majority of our society, isn't against the law because under the constitution we have the right to freedom of speech. This is not discrimination.
Miserabilia
August 17th, 2015, 08:17 AM
It's not against the law to be a racist person.
It is only against the law to discriminate against age, gender, race, etc. However, we have the First Amendment to turn to.
We have a right to freedom of speech.
Calling someone the "N" word, which is considered racist by the majority of our society, isn't against the law because under the constitution we have the right to freedom of speech. This is not discrimination.
This.
If a white guy calls a black man a "nigger" to one of his friends he's not commiting a crime he's probably just being an asshole.
There's no discrimination in calling names.
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