Windows 10!!!

[Kacey]

A bit late to post this, but whatever.

Who else is getting (weirdly) hyped for the release of Windows 10 tomorrow?

I'm mostly excited to get this GOD AWFUL THING THEY CALL 8.1 OFF OF MY LAPTOP. (I liked 8. 8.1 is an unnecessary thing IMHO) So, yeah... I just want to see what it looks like and how it runs on my laptop as well...

[Horatio Nelson]

I'm excited for it, not sure if I'll wait to download it or not though. I prefer to let other people guinea pig stuff like that for me. :P

[Microcosm]

Windows 10 actually looks really great. Like I'm hoping it will be better than Windows 8.

[Emerald Dream]

I never had Windows 8, so this will probably be a big jump for me - and yeah, I am probably downloading this the first chance I get...since I am a sucker for trying out new stuff.

[Hudor]

I'm pretty excited because the reviews describe it as a closer relative to windows 7 than 8 and tbh I prefer the win7 look more than 8/8.1. Plus it's supposed to have a whole lot of new cool features.

[YouTube]

I recently just moved to Mac but will of course update my previous desktop to Windows 10 from 7 because it's free XD

[Let Me Be a Pony]

Would like to stick to Win7 for a long while before I try this one.
Had a bad experience with Win8, so I won't experiment again.

[phuckphace]

I'm going to install it on my laptop first, if it meets with my supreme approval then my desktop will get it too. otherwise it's Win 7 until they stop supporting it.

[Typhlosion]

It's the 29th of July already, where is it?! I Need it!!!

[phuckphace]

It's the 29th of July already, where is it?! I Need it!!!

suck it bitch, using it now

:D about to fire up some VIDYAGAMES for the ultimate test...will Win10 survive? stay tuned!

[Plane And Simple]

I'm not that fond of the start menu, but it's definitely better than W8 that didn't even have one haha. I think I'll stick to Windows 7 but if i need an upgrade and hear good things about it i'll go ahead and get it

[phuckphace]

my games work fine, noice

[Saul Goodman]

It ran pretty well in the technical preview when I tried it, but I'm going to let most of the bugs/problems get patched in the coming months before considering installing it. In all honesty I haven't performed a Windows Update in about 6 months so haven't even got the pop up to download 10 yet.

[Interstellar]

I just downloaded it earlier today and I must say I really like it, way better than Windows 8. It's actually a nice blend of 7 & 8 in my opinion. The upgrade didn't take too long either, maybe about an hour.

That Cortana bitch has nothing on Siri though!

[CharlieHorse]

I have a few concerns:
1. overclocking. It's said that the os puts a limit on the clock. I have an i5 4670k up to 4.7ghz solid. I don't want that to be limited.
2. Driver updates. Windows update is apparently going to force driver updates for things like the gpu. Being on top of gpu drivers, even custom bios settings for the gpu, this is a big hell no.
3. It's probably going to be weeks before i get my "turn" to download it.
4. Other compatibility issues. The last test build was still fubar.

[Typhlosion]

Hell yes: http://www.virtualteen.org/forums/showpost.php?p=3189452&postcount=2573

I have a few concerns:
1. overclocking. It's said that the os puts a limit on the clock. I have an i5 4670k up to 4.7ghz solid. I don't want that to be limited.
2. Driver updates. Windows update is apparently going to force driver updates for things like the gpu. Being on top of gpu drivers, even custom bios settings for the gpu, this is a big hell no.
Where did you read these? I can't imagine how Windows would have access to BIOS settings. There should be a way to disable updates, also.

3. It's probably going to be weeks before i get my "turn" to download it.

Orrr you can be inpatient and get it anyways: http://venturebeat.com/2015/07/28/how-to-force-windows-to-start-downloading-the-windows-10-update-files/

Needless to say the only edge Edge has is in the name.

[Silicate Wielder]

Having been beta testing the os, it certainly is allot better than 8 in my opinion.

I didn't even realize it was released. But they're letting the beta testers keep their copies so :)

[Tendencies]

So toady I was able to download and upgrade to the new Windows software know as Windows 10, and believe me, I was quite excited to see this since I have been on Windows 7 for a long while now and so I started the download as soon as possible and the download and installation alone took about 3 hours and I decided to look past that cause I know that it is a big upgrade, and then once it was all finished up and installed it looked nice but the thing is that once I got into it and started looking around, I noticed that the security/antivirus program that I had been using, Norton, had in fact been removed from my system and that was a GIANT red flag for me. Just to see if I had any type of antivirus to my disposal, I checked to see if I even had the Microsoft Security Essentials and not even that was installed and I was unable to download and install it since the Security Essentials was only available for Windows 7/8 since Windows 10 is so new and so that had me actually scared because I don't really trust anything on the internet so I went looking to try and re-install Norton and when I got the file downloaded, I was unable to open it because it required me to go in and give permission as an Admin and once I gave that permission, I was hit with an extensive error code. So seeing as that I the upgrade made me pretty much completely vulnerable to anything, I almost immediately hated it. Also, the Microsoft Edge browser is, in my opinion, nothing special. It seems to just be a revamped Internet Explorer and is no big whoop. Sure some of the little apps and things like the Xbox Compatibility services were cool but in the end, it wasn't worth it. So I actually used the recover service to go back to Windows 7 and even now being back on this Software, I am having some troubles getting my Norton program back and a few other miscellaneous issues. I might go back to Windows 10 if they get it together and fix what happened for me and possibly other but until then, I am sticking with what I know works and that is Windows 7.

Since both threads are discussing Windows 10 experiences(generally), I went ahead and merged the two. ~Microcosm

[lyhom]

it looks good, but probably going to hold off updating for a bit just so the kinks will work themselves out, but it'll probably be worth it

[Typhlosion]

As long as you're not stupid and download an antivirus from dubious sites, you won't get a virus on your PC. You could find legitimate alternatives to Norton on Download.com (http://Download.com) .

As for your Norton issue, I'd suggest entering in contact with customer support to recover your license.

[Tendencies]

As long as you're not stupid and download an antivirus from dubious sites, you won't get a virus on your PC. You could find legitimate alternatives to Norton on Download.com (http://Download.com) .

As for your Norton issue, I'd suggest entering in contact with customer support to recover your license.

The issues was, though, that even if I were to try and get those other antivirus programs, I couldn't open them because they required me to give admin permission. I couldn't do anything that required me to give admin permission because it would just give me an error code right after. That was my main issues, not being able to run programs due to the need of admin permission.

[Typhlosion]

The issues was, though, that even if I were to try and get those other antivirus programs, I couldn't open them because they required me to give admin permission. I couldn't do anything that required me to give admin permission because it would just give me an error code right after. That was my main issues, not being able to run programs due to the need of admin permission.

Ah, I see.

What error, exactly, appeared? Don't you have administrator permissions on your account?

[phuckphace]

I'm happy with 10 so far, it's working great on my laptop. feels like I got a new one even though it's 3 years old yo. got it installing on my desktop right now (thanks for the hax Typhlosion)

so apparently if you try the above method to force your Win10 download, and the download gets interrupted, you're fucked. at least that's what happened to me, I've tried everything to get this shit going again and no dice. somebody halp



Posts merged. Next time, please use the edit button. -Alluring

[Typhlosion]

so apparently if you try the above method to force your Win10 download, and the download gets interrupted, you're fucked. at least that's what happened to me, I've tried everything to get this shit going again and no dice. somebody halp
Did you try the method described in this link: http://venturebeat.com/2015/07/28/how-to-force-windows-to-start-downloading-the-windows-10-update-files/
Or the one linked in that link: http://venturebeat.com/2015/07/29/how-to-download-and-install-windows-10-without-using-windows-update/ ?

I used the latter, worked like a charm.

[lyhom]

just got it after getting the notification yesterday, I really like it so far

[phuckphace]

Did you try the method described in this link: http://venturebeat.com/2015/07/28/how-to-force-windows-to-start-downloading-the-windows-10-update-files/
Or the one linked in that link: http://venturebeat.com/2015/07/29/how-to-download-and-install-windows-10-without-using-windows-update/ ?

I used the latter, worked like a charm.

thanks for the tip bro but unfortunately it looks like I spoke too soon. Win10 was working suspiciously well for a Day Zero release so I should've seen it coming - my laptop is now full retard mode. I was getting black screens on boot (as in, the screen was completely turned off) so I booted into Safe Mode, disabled my video drivers, and now I can get to the desktop and use it for a couple minutes until a BSOD. it gives a different stop error code every time. I went to Windows boot options and selected "Reset my PC" and it BSOD'd again after the second restart. WELP

yeah that ~10 hours of glorious usability was nice, shame it's apparently still raw as sushi. never change Redmond :lol3:

[Kacey]

Just got the notification, upgrading here shortly...

EDIT: Of course. THIS happens to be my 420th post... I was going to make a thread and everything, but I wasn't paying attention... Uugh...

[phuckphace]

Just got the notification, upgrading here shortly...

EDIT: Of course. THIS happens to be my 420th post... I was going to make a thread and everything, but I wasn't paying attention... Uugh...

ayy lmao Windows 10 is only half baked anyway

[lyhom]

only problems I've had so far is the mouse not working after putting out of sleep mode once and starting it up again takes way too long compared to 8(.1) but it's pretty good other than that tbh

[Hudor]

only problems I've had so far is the mouse not working after putting out of sleep mode once and starting it up again takes way too long compared to 8(.1) but it's pretty good other than that tbh

I thought it was only my system that took longer to boot than 8.1.

Apart from that it's working pretty well. i really like the task view. Apart from that it looks a lot like my phone.

[Kacey]

Well, I guess my download is totally fucked right now. I've restarted my computer ~10 times now, and none of them are actually installing Win10. I guess I'll wait a few days then...

[Human]

Just upgraded from Windows 8.1, it seems a lot better but with the privacy concerns I messed around with regedit to disable all the 'feedback and diagnostics' lmao

[YouTube]

I updated 3 computers (hesitant to update Boot Camped Mac) and all of them took a while to index and such. The start menu wasn't working until hours and restarts later, Cortana doesn't recognize a connection to the internet (yet Chrome does) Some Windows settings (time restrictions) have been reset. But remember you have one month from the date you updated to go back (Updates & Recovery in Settings) to your previous OS.

Other than the bugs which should get better over the coming days/weeks automatically. (Windows 10 auto updates)

[CosmicNoodle]

Grrrrrrr. Windows 10 is a pain in the dick for me. I was on Win 7 32 bit, upgraded and it worked fine, decided I wanted 64 bit so I could play Minecraft, so I install 64 bit Win 7, get that running, go to upgrade, it starts downloading the upgrade and then it goes and tells me I can't upgrade because the old Pentium 4 I'm using right now doesn't support "PrefetchW", so now I need to wait till I have the money to upgrade to the Core 2 Quad 2.4GHz, which will work with 10.

[everlong]

I'll probably get it sometime, but I'm going to wait a little bit.

[Kacey]

Well, so far, so good. I've only run into a few problems, most of which I can fix, but overall the OS is solid, and decently user-friendly. Cortana is super helpful, and punny

[phuckphace]

against my better judgment I went ahead and installed the upgrade on my desktop to "give it another chance." it's only been a few hours so it's too early to say, but just like last time my games are working great, maybe even running at a few extra fps on average. fingers crossed that it doesn't fuck up on me again

I have a few concerns:
1. overclocking. It's said that the os puts a limit on the clock. I have an i5 4670k up to 4.7ghz solid. I don't want that to be limited.

I can confirm that overclocks work fine, note my 4.20 GHz OC here:

http://i.imgur.com/Uz3PKUW.png

[phuckphace]

hahaha

booted up my desktop a bit ago and was greeted by the sight of my monitor stuck on 640*480 resolution. wouldn't let me change it. now I'm attempting to reinstall my video driver, which has already stopped responding once. :lol3:

guessing they call it Windows 10 because it was programmed by 10 H1B contractors (please to be coding your operation system, tank you come again!)

[Uranus]

So far, I'm happy with Windows 10. Much better than 8, 8.1 and whatever. It's working great and performing better than before.

[phuckphace]

think I fixed it. had to manually add my resolution to the display adapter's settings because the Windows resolution setting was greyed out. this is some Linux tier fuckery that I've never before seen with any other version of Windows including the Win7 dev previews. I have seen the future and it begins with BSODs and ends with me reinstalling Win7 and keeping it

[Ratman1234]

I love windows 10 it's great. It's a lot better than windows 8. The layout is really easy to get used to

[james smith]

I'm also excited for Windows 🔟

[luq_]

I'm on tech preview since October or so and had no major issues. I've even changed my GPU in the meantime and it didn't cause trouble or any hiccups.
One thing worth mentioning is when I miss a couple of builds or don't boot for a while, it'd refuse to update with an error, forcing me to use an .iso. Guess upgrading remained their biggest issue. DVDs/USBs are more reliable anyway.
Speed & functionality of 8 mixed with good looks of 7, I like it.

[TheMatrix]

you can pry windows 7 out of my cold dead hands.


hahaha
guessing they call it Windows 10 because it was programmed by 10 H1B contractors (please to be coding your operation system, tank you come again!)

I like the way you think :yes:

[phuckphace]

it's been just over a week and no further issues with Win10 on my desktop so far.

I'm still running Ubuntu on my laptop since I'm too lazy to reinstall Win7 right now. I might just wait a few months and try reinstalling 10

[tovaris]

Hey Cortana

[Horatio Nelson]

Encountered a weird bug, had to wipe my C drive and put 8 back on it. (With a windows 7 shell of course. :P ) Going to hold off on windows 10 for a few months.

[phuckphace]

Encountered a weird bug, had to wipe my C drive and put 8 back on it. (With a windows 7 shell of course. :P ) Going to hold off on windows 10 for a few months.

what sort of bug exactly?

[Horatio Nelson]

what sort of bug exactly?

When I'd go to fire it up, it would send me to an auto repair screen, and then ask to select my keyboard layout. At which point nothing worked, after about 5 hard resets/checking every connection, decided to wipe. An IT friend had never seen this happen, and has been using windows 10 since beta, so, he helped me get it back to 8(.1).

[phuckphace]

When I'd go to fire it up, it would send me to an auto repair screen, and then ask to select my keyboard layout. At which point nothing worked, after about 5 hard resets/checking every connection, decided to wipe. An IT friend had never seen this happen, and has been using windows 10 since beta, so, he helped me get it back to 8(.1).

lol. yeah that's pretty derpy and Linux-ish.

[Porpoise101]

lol. yeah that's pretty derpy and Linux-ish.
Excuuuuse me what is derpy about Linux man. Open source wins yeaaaa [emoji3] [emoji3] [emoji3] [emoji3]

[phuckphace]

Excuuuuse me what is derpy about Linux man. Open source wins yeaaaa [emoji3] [emoji3] [emoji3] [emoji3]

I'd just like to interject for a moment, what you're referring to as "Linux" is in fact a pile of shit that never works. by the way I'm a dumb hippy who's homeless on purpose. muh freedom

[Porpoise101]

I'd just like to interject for a moment, what you're referring to as "Linux" is in fact a pile of shit that never works. by the way I'm a dumb hippy who's homeless on purpose. muh freedom
Lol the server vt is hosted on probably runs Linux. All Android phones run Linux. Linux only had yet to take over desktop.

[wolf g]

it's very good programme

[Kacey]

All Android phones run Linux. Linux only had yet to take over desktop.

What you're referring to is UNIX. That's what Linux is built on, along with ChromeOS, OSX, iOS, and Android. There is no actual (functional, like actually usable) Linux distro on mobiles. They are working on it though. And Linux is not going to ever "take over desktops" because of how it works. It's not very forgiving to beginners. Only experienced people can just jump into Linux (nonetheless ArchLinux) without any problems. Windows and OSX are more beginner friendly, and therefor will continue to be the most non-commercially used OS.

[Porpoise101]

What you're referring to is UNIX. That's what Linux is built on, along with ChromeOS, OSX, iOS, and Android. There is no actual (functional, like actually usable) Linux distro on mobiles. They are working on it though. And Linux is not going to ever "take over desktops" because of how it works. It's not very forgiving to beginners. Only experienced people can just jump into Linux (nonetheless ArchLinux) without any problems. Windows and OSX are more beginner friendly, and therefor will continue to be the most non-commercially used OS.
You are wrong. Chrome and Android is Linux based. OSX isn't though.

Canonical is releasing a mobile version of Ubuntu.

Linux may catch on in emerging markets in southeast Asia or southeast Africa and Nigeria because it's free. Linux has lots of uses and will become more accessible as time goes on.

[phuckphace]

my laptop is running the l8est and gr8est version of Ubuntu and I have to reboot about once every 30 minutes to an hour so the dropped WiFi connection will reestablish. occasionally the screen will stay off after the computer wakes from sleep, requiring yet another reboot. no, I'm not going to spend 15 hours pouring over nerd forums populated by hostile GNU-atheists when I could just reinstall Windows 7 in an hour and never drop my connection again ever (everyone else does the same thing, which explains Linux's stubbornly tiny market share)

Linux may catch on in emerging markets in southeast Asia or southeast Africa and Nigeria because it's free. Linux has lots of uses and will become more accessible as time goes on.

if I were living in Africa on a dollar a year I'd take whatever I could get I guess.

Linux hippies have been saying that since the mid-90s, while far more usable OSes have since advanced further and left it behind

Linux has been around since the late 80s if I'm not mistaken. that's a long time in computer-years. if they haven't yet got their shit together they probably never will

[Kacey]

You are wrong. Chrome and Android is Linux based. OSX isn't though.

Canonical is releasing a mobile version of Ubuntu.

Linux may catch on in emerging markets in southeast Asia or southeast Africa and Nigeria because it's free. Linux has lots of uses and will become more accessible as time goes on.

I'm not going to argue on this, because this thread is about Windows 10.

ChromeOS and Android are built using UNIX and some Linux code. That's the simple fact of it. Same with OSX and iOS. The simple fact is that that code is more stable than any other solutions.

That mobile version, as of right now, is (somehow) more unstable than XUbuntu was on my old netbook. It isn't a very feasible thing right now, especially using any Debian variant.

As for Linux catching on, no. It won't. Not any of the mainstream versions at least. What may happen is someone who has an idea of what they are doing could make a decently user-friendly distro, and that catches on, but I highly doubt I'll be able to go to Nigeria and see some 12 year old using Ubuntu.

Linux has been around since the late 80s if I'm not mistaken. that's a long time in computer-years. if they haven't yet got their shit together they probably never will

Linux can be either the best thing ever, or your worst nightmare. It really depends on what distro you are using and what you are using it for. I'm not saying Linux is in any way better than Windows or OSX, but it is pretty well on par. It's just a bit tricky to work with

[luq_]

For starters, Unix is OS, Linux is just a kernel. You don't usually 'run Linux' and rarely can blame it for anything, but instead blame the distro. Linux is open-source project based on Unix, while Unix, except the BSD variant (and maybe some others) is closed-source. You can't build OS using Unix code, because:
1) Unix is already a complete OS
2) You don't have that code
You can base stuff on Unix, and make it appear similar to Unix and that's what Linux has done (along with any other *nix except Unix itself).

When it comes to Windows, it still rules desktops. It's simple. It's also very impractical if you try to do anything more advanced. It's locked up, so stuff like packet capturing and forging requests, along with many more not-so-usual stuff isn't so easy (if you have ever wondered why there is no Aircrack or Reaver for Windows). I've been having troubles to get it work with ADB as well.
But, for the love of God, try running it on a server. No, even better, simpler, try coding something in batch. It's a nightmare. I know, Bash (or any other Linux sh) isn't exactly the most sophisticated tool out there, but Batch is... ugh.
When it comes to way things are done,
Linux terminal > Windows GUI > Windows command line > Linux GUI
GUI tools in most popular Linux distros are usually well behind their Windows counterparts. Take Nautilus for example, if you try to copy large amount of files (my case are 60k generated files I wanted to backup to external HDD over USB cable), it will crash; 'mv' will work flawlessly; Windows Explorer will do that, but in twice the time and I suppose cmd won't be much faster.
I pick Linux and work in terminal most of the time because I don't like compromises. I use Windows mainly for gaming, because it has much larger market share. It's the matter of what are you willing to sacrifice after all. Desktop users are happy to sacrifice a little bit of speed for good looks, while server admins usually don't care about looks.

Can we get back to Win10 now?


P. S. screen not turning on after waking from sleep isn't that uncommon, it used to happen to me. I forgot what I have done, but I remember I fiddled with xrandr and X11 config files for some time and it somehow miraculously started working. AFAIK you can drop to command line interface, re-log and attempt to start X again, with a bit of luck it will recognize the display and it will work fine. It's more complicated that it should be, but that's just the way X is done. It's also very outdated and should be replaced. Good news is Canonical is trying to push out X in favour of their own display server, Mir. Meanwhile, you can always use Wayland. The other thing, network drivers, are a popular issue; manufacturers don't give a fuck about Linux market, so community has to write drivers themselves, which can lead to a lot of strange problems. No help there. Windows counterpart would be AMD-supplied GPU drivers which can also fuck up badly.

[impan1019]

how do i ownload windows 10?

[luq_]

how do i ownload windows 10?

It should appear as a free upgrade in your taskbar (you do need to have Windows Update on for that to happen AFAIK) when all drivers for your hardware are ready (a. k. a. it's deemed compatible).

[Jean Poutine]

Being a suspicious, paranoid bastard, I wondered why the fuck Microsoft would release a new OS free of charge, even just to licensed Win8 owners.

Then I learned Microsoft is something akin to private NSA and is collecting all dat damn personal info.

Even though there are options you can disable, somehow I doubt that's all there is. Next computer I build is gonna run Linux.

[phuckphace]

yeah I found out that Win10 is literally Skynet only after I installed it. apparently amongst other things, it backs up your BitLocker key to the cloud (aka a server that the NSA has full, warrant-free access to.) well played, MS, well played.

[Plane And Simple]

This is why I love my 7 and will stick to it :P

[Emerald Dream]

I gave Windows 10 a try on my old laptop after it was released. Nope. Went back to 8, 3 days later.

After I got my new laptop though, I gave it a try again, and this time, it was smoother than I expected. I actually prefer it over 8.1, and I don't see myself downgrading again sometime. I missed the Start menu soo much. Lol.

And, the new setup (Unlike when it was freshly released), allows you to turn off all the things you don't want before you could even get to use it for the first time.

Please do not post in threads with more than two months of inactivity. :locked: