Your home country under your boot?

[Stronk Serb]

Well, the title says it all.
My first years of rule as Governor-General would be full of purges of politicians who caused problems for us, purging the elements which encourage degrading and immoral behaviour because it's damaging the moral standard of the population, screw over the EU and the IMF, team up with Russia and China. Then the era of peace starts. I would limit my appearances, delegate executive powers on a county level and keep the media free, as long what is said is true. I would also lower taxes and raise salaries to their level in 2008 work on strenghtening our currency and resurrect our industry. Education and living standard would be top priority. I would nationalise major companies and others would be free or partly owned by the state. Also tax the church and the rich, especially those who can't prove the origin of their wealth. Bust down tax evaders and encourage exports and implement mercantilist policies.

[Left Now]

I do not intend to get involved in this discussion right now,maybe later,but I think the title "...Under your boots" is not very appropriate.

[Sir Suomi]

Here's a response I made on another post that just about covers it.


Abolish the Federal Reserve and instate an actually government run agency in it's place.
Reinstate the gold-backed dollar and rid ourselves of the Petrodollar .
Terminate all of our funding to other countries who are unable/unwilling to pay back with interest.
Slash our military budget along with our involvement overseas and return to our isolationist tradition of foreign policy.
Take out Common Core teaching standards and let states decide on what should be taught.
Legalize cannabis for medical uses and allow states to decide on if they wish it to be legalize for recreational purposes.
Begin a crackdown on those who abuse the welfare system.
Privatize Social Security.
Encourage private companies to invest more in space exploration and colonization.
Encourage private companies to invest in renewable energy sources.
Cut down on oil consumption from Middle-Eastern nations.
A massive investigation among our current politicians for corruption.
End the NSA and all forms of government surveillance.
Encourage colleges to lower tuition fines to make secondary education more affordable in order to allow more skilled workers into the industry.
Encourage schools to teach more into STEM fields for children.

[phuckphace]

deport all first and second generation non-European immigrants back to wherever they came from, and restrict new immigrants to those from a short list of approved European countries.
Militarize our borders with a "shoot on sight" policy for jumpers
War on Drugs II: The Purge (door-to-door extermination campaign)
police reform - goes without saying. we get better cops, and give these better cops bigger guns to shoot drug-peddlers and gangs. they'll be cleaning out the Unzuverlässige Elemente one quickscope at a time.
Louisiana and Mississippi are now the African American Autonomous Region, a self-ruling country in its own right. relocate all African Americans here, give them $50 billion, and enjoy no more discrimination ever (hey a guy can dream, right?)
break up most major megacorps and nationalize the rest. kill off Walmart & Monsanto.
nationalize all banks into a single state owned entity, the American National Bank. no gold standard because I hear it's dumb. Hire Vlerchan to set monetary policy, because staring at charts with Greek letters for more than a minute makes me nauseous
eliminate Social Security and replace it with a minimum basic income for native-born Whites and the indigenous peoples
eliminate Medicare and replace it with a National Health Service, free at the point of use for native-born Whites and indigenous peoples
eliminate employer-based health insurance (see above)
raise the minimum wage. this would be in tiers by age: for workers aged 12 - 17, $9.00/hr, for those 18 to 20, $12.00/hr, and those 21 and over, $18.00/hr. the wage rate would be frequently adjusted for inflation.
lower the minimum legal working age to 12.
Americans-first hiring policy - if an employer has to choose between two equally skilled persons, one American and the other not, he has to pick the American.
eliminate the food-stamp program (see: MBI)
nationalize Planned Parenthood
infrastructure upgrades - roads, bridges, trains. add a national public transport system like the bitchin' ones they've got on ye olde continent.
Phuckphace Youth - it's like the Boy Scouts, except less gay and 1488% more awesome than staying indoors and playing WoW all day. learn how to shoot guns and make things with your hands.
centralize and standardize the public school system
purge ideologues from our universities, nationalize them, and make STEM degrees free to native-born Whites and indigenous peoples
restrict marriage to two persons, biological men and women.
set up the office of the Tribune of the Plebeians (yes that's what I'd call it). this person or triumvirate would make regular inquiries into public opinion & hold referendums.
liberate women...from the workplace. after a week of lounging on the couch with their children, free from work-related stress, they'll be thanking me.
420 blaze it. smoke weed erryday if you want, but if you're going to do drugs you'd better stick with weed.


questions/comments/omg why would you even do thats all welcome

[Sir Suomi]

...So what you're telling me is... Fourth Reich: American edition? Because if so, I like it :P

[Stronk Serb]

deport all first and second generation non-European immigrants back to wherever they came from, and restrict new immigrants to those from a short list of approved European countries.
Militarize our borders with a "shoot on sight" policy for jumpers
War on Drugs II: The Purge (door-to-door extermination campaign)
police reform - goes without saying. we get better cops, and give these better cops bigger guns to shoot drug-peddlers and gangs. they'll be cleaning out the Unzuverlässige Elemente one quickscope at a time.
Louisiana and Mississippi are now the African American Autonomous Region, a self-ruling country in its own right. relocate all African Americans here, give them $50 billion, and enjoy no more discrimination ever (hey a guy can dream, right?)
break up most major megacorps and nationalize the rest. kill off Walmart & Monsanto.
nationalize all banks into a single state owned entity, the American National Bank. no gold standard because I hear it's dumb. Hire Vlerchan to set monetary policy, because staring at charts with Greek letters for more than a minute makes me nauseous
eliminate Social Security and replace it with a minimum basic income for native-born Whites and the indigenous peoples
eliminate Medicare and replace it with a National Health Service, free at the point of use for native-born Whites and indigenous peoples
eliminate employer-based health insurance (see above)
raise the minimum wage. this would be in tiers by age: for workers aged 12 - 17, $9.00/hr, for those 18 to 20, $12.00/hr, and those 21 and over, $18.00/hr. the wage rate would be frequently adjusted for inflation.
lower the minimum legal working age to 12.
Americans-first hiring policy - if an employer has to choose between two equally skilled persons, one American and the other not, he has to pick the American.
eliminate the food-stamp program (see: MBI)
nationalize Planned Parenthood
infrastructure upgrades - roads, bridges, trains. add a national public transport system like the bitchin' ones they've got on ye olde continent.
Phuckphace Youth - it's like the Boy Scouts, except less gay and 1488% more awesome than staying indoors and playing WoW all day. learn how to shoot guns and make things with your hands.
centralize and standardize the public school system
purge ideologues from our universities, nationalize them, and make STEM degrees free to native-born Whites and indigenous peoples
restrict marriage to two persons, biological men and women.
set up the office of the Tribune of the Plebeians (yes that's what I'd call it). this person or triumvirate would make regular inquiries into public opinion & hold referendums.
liberate women...from the workplace. after a week of lounging on the couch with their children, free from work-related stress, they'll be thanking me.
420 blaze it. smoke weed erryday if you want, but if you're going to do drugs you'd better stick with weed.


questions/comments/omg why would you even do thats all welcome

8/10,definitely would live there.

[thetransylvanianguy]

Hmm... I would do the following, from a Romanian point of view:Take a more eurorealistic approach (that is, not being the EU's yes man)

Adoption of the euro should be subject to a referendum

A Dutch-like civic integration test for all immigrants, including refugees.


A points system for all skilled immigrants, provided the civic integration test is taken beforehand


Negotiate an opt-out from implementing the Schengen agreement

Tax the church, no ifs, no buts.


Keep the 16% flat tax


The proposed reunification with the Republic of Moldova should be subject to a referendum in both countries, and both campaigns (in favour/against) should be funded equally and given equal importance in debates, without any bias in favour of either campaign.


The Szekely autonomy should be up to a referendum in the concerned area, and it should have a consociational basis (as in Northern Ireland)


Give full fiscal autonomy to all regions


Have a neutral policy on same-sex marriage and adoption, and hold a referendum on it, provided 100,000 people sign a citizen's initiative. In the meantime, offer same-sex couples the opportunity to have a legal status through unregistered partnership, with joint adoption banned.


Decriminalise drugs, fully legalise soft ones and introduce mandatory medical treatment for addicts, with no legal effects.


Offer people convicted in corruption cases conditional amnesty (provided they have paid the whole losses plus damages whose value is estimated by the judge. Should they be convicted of corruption again, their sentence will be doubled.)


Legalise and tax prostitution, and raise sentences for sex offenders.


Offer inmates convicted of non-violent crimes the opportunity to pay their way out of prison, through community service, house arrest or paying an amount of money.


Eliminate any sort of benefit (except child benefit, whose recipient is the parent on behalf of the child), for persons refusing a job.

[Capto]

Organize and consolidate largest cities into metropolitan areas that are legally and administratively above prefectures in status (Tōkyō, Keihanshin, Sapporo, Nagoya, Fukuoka-Kitakyūshū, Hiroshima, Sendai)

Create a new type of administrative subdivision that is above and encompasses the prefecture and is equal to the metropolitan area known as regions

Change Okinawa Prefecture to become the Autonomous Okinawan Prefecture

Designate areas in Hokkaidō to become the Autonomous Ainu State on the same administrative level as a city

Subsidize cultural promotion programs for the Ainu and Okinawans as well as foreign immigrant groups to promote a cosmopolitan ideal of multiculturalism (Zainichi Koreans, Taiwanese, etc.)

Institute rudimentary hate speech laws that aim to combat the current calls for the annihilation and extinction of certain ethnic groups; referendum for expansion of definition of hate crime

Issue immediate war apologies and token reparations to the order of the nations of South Korea, North Korea, the PRC, the RoC, Malaysia, the Philippines, Singapore, the United States of America, Indonesia, Cambodia, Burma, Brunei, Vietnam, Australia, and Laos (I'm forgetting someone here)

Work towards reaching mutually acceptable agreements to disputed territories between the PRC, South Korea, and Japan

Consolidate private and government-owned cooperative railroad systems to fit the size of a metropolitan area or a region

Renounce the alliance with the United States and replace it with a simple Treaty of Friendship

Start the removal of American military bases in Japan proper; bases in autonomous regions are left to the jurisdiction of the autonomous regions

Reduce the size and spending on the JSDF; move to a force focused on counter-terrorism, disaster-relief, and peacekeeping nationally and to a slightly more limited extent internationally

Co-sign a trilateral Treaty of Friendship with the PRC and South Korea

Encourage the export of Japanese language and culture

Encourage the import of Chinese and Korean language and culture to a limited extent

Encourage population growth by offering monetary and other incentives for the production of offspring

Promote higher education and dissuade the ideal of 'the spring break of life'

Subsidize Tsukuba and create more science cities

Increase spending on research and emphasize energy, nanotechnology, biology, and electrical engineering

Encourage a more holistic less analytic approach to the acquisition of foreign languages in schools

Increase advertising for health and culinary tourism

Develop more English Villages in metropolitan areas

[Stronk Serb]

Organize and consolidate largest cities into metropolitan areas that are legally and administratively above prefectures in status (Tōkyō, Keihanshin, Sapporo, Nagoya, Fukuoka-Kitakyūshū, Hiroshima, Sendai)

Create a new type of administrative subdivision that is above and encompasses the prefecture and is equal to the metropolitan area known as regions

Change Okinawa Prefecture to become the Autonomous Okinawan Prefecture

Designate areas in Hokkaidō to become the Autonomous Ainu State on the same administrative level as a city

Subsidize cultural promotion programs for the Ainu and Okinawans as well as foreign immigrant groups to promote a cosmopolitan ideal of multiculturalism (Zainichi Koreans, Taiwanese, etc.)

Institute rudimentary hate speech laws that aim to combat the current calls for the annihilation and extinction of certain ethnic groups; referendum for expansion of definition of hate crime

Issue immediate war apologies and token reparations to the order of the nations of South Korea, North Korea, the PRC, the RoC, Malaysia, the Philippines, Singapore, the United States of America, Indonesia, Cambodia, Burma, Brunei, Vietnam, Australia, and Laos (I'm forgetting someone here)

Work towards reaching mutually acceptable agreements to disputed territories between the PRC, South Korea, and Japan

Consolidate private and government-owned cooperative railroad systems to fit the size of a metropolitan area or a region

Renounce the alliance with the United States and replace it with a simple Treaty of Friendship

Start the removal of American military bases in Japan proper; bases in autonomous regions are left to the jurisdiction of the autonomous regions

Reduce the size and spending on the JSDF; move to a force focused on counter-terrorism, disaster-relief, and peacekeeping nationally and to a slightly more limited extent internationally

Co-sign a trilateral Treaty of Friendship with the PRC and South Korea

Encourage the export of Japanese language and culture

Encourage the import of Chinese and Korean language and culture to a limited extent

Encourage population growth by offering monetary and other incentives for the production of offspring

Promote higher education and dissuade the ideal of 'the spring break of life'

Subsidize Tsukuba and create more science cities

Increase spending on research and emphasize energy, nanotechnology, biology, and electrical engineering

Encourage a more holistic less analytic approach to the acquisition of foreign languages in schools

Increase advertising for health and culinary tourism

Develop more English Villages in metropolitan areas


Papua New Guinea? Japan occupied their part of the island. Is that war with Montenegro still going?
Nice ideas btw

[Vlerchan]

In no particular order.

Introduce rule-based fiscal policy, preferably in-line with the considerations of NewKeynesian DSGE models.
Within this, include measures towards mandatory stimulus during economic booms.
Incentive market socialism, reduce tax and regulatory burden on worker's co-operatives and credit unions, within this eliminate all labour regulations.
Introduce basic minimum income, in tandem with negative income taxation.
Eliminate the minimum wage.
More free trade, generally, with China and ASEAN, in particular.
Incentivise investment in Nanotechnology, Life-extension technologies, Green energy.
Invest in space travel and related activities, combine efforts with US as required.
Invest in high-speed pan-European rail.
De-nationalise European state-owned firms.
De-nationalise European armed-forces, though emphasise defensive priorities.
Liberal-Y social stuff.
I'm forgetting tonnes.

[tonymontana99]

Authoritarianism
Capitalism
Capital Punishment/No Tolerance For Crime
Legalization and taxation of "soft drugs" (LSD, mushrooms, marijuana)
No guns (sorry 2nd Ammendment lovers)
Eugenics
Transhumanitarianism Movement
Mass Surveillance
Police Everywhere
Free Education
Free Healthcare
Restrictions on Immigration (Only skilled/educated immigrants allowed)
Zero tolerance for gender-related crap
End "pointless" college courses that aren't actually doing anything good like Gender/Race Studies, etc.
Incentives to follow STEM field

Also, try to form a one-world government. Main focus is the maximization of happiness and productivity. Money is entirely dumped on education, technology, space industry, etc.

Well, the title says it all.
My first years of rule as Governor-General would be full of purges of politicians who caused problems for us, purging the elements which encourage degrading and immoral behaviour because it's damaging the moral standard of the population, screw over the EU and the IMF, team up with Russia and China. Then the era of peace starts. I would limit my appearances, delegate executive powers on a county level and keep the media free, as long what is said is true. I would also lower taxes and raise salaries to their level in 2008 work on strenghtening our currency and resurrect our industry. Education and living standard would be top priority. I would nationalise major companies and others would be free or partly owned by the state. Also tax the church and the rich, especially those who can't prove the origin of their wealth. Bust down tax evaders and encourage exports and implement mercantilist policies.

"Leftist authoritarian nationalist"

I bet 1984 was an instruction manual, correct?

Double Post merged. ~R.D.

[Stronk Serb]

"Leftist authoritarian nationalist"

I bet 1984 was an instruction manual, correct?

Not really, haven't read it. I think my views changed so much that a change of signature is in order. So what would you do if you had your home country under your boot as the undisputed ruler?

[tonymontana99]

Not really, haven't read it. I think my views changed so much that a change of signature is in order. So what would you do if you had your home country under your boot as the undisputed ruler?

I'm reading 1984 right now, sounds like a nightmare. I already posted my ruling, check above.

[Stronk Serb]

I'm reading 1984 right now, sounds like a nightmare. I already posted my ruling, check above.

Oh lmao. Sorry I didn't see it. Your ideas are sort of like mine except I would emphasize on the state's stronger grip on the economy, since it would be the state that will revitalize most industries. Also strive towards making a healthy society, no decadent or immoral behaviour allowed in public places.

[phuckphace]

yeah I forgot to include in my list a blanket ban on all that gender-bendy nonsense somebody made up last Thursday. if you're born with a dick you are male, if a vagina you're female, and for the ultra-rare cases of congenital hermaphroditism, you're whatever your chomosome makeup is (XY/XX).

also I'd nationalize our oil industry and stop buying oil from Saudi Arabia. repair relations with Rossiya matushka & cut deals with them instead. alcoholics > fanatics

[dxcxdzv]

George S Patton and Phuckphace the worst presidents of American history. xD

Personally just one thing...
European Empire, fuck yeah!

[Sir Suomi]

George S Patton and Phuckphace the worst presidents of American history. xD


That's subjective :P

[dxcxdzv]

That's subjective :P
Yeah that's right... You can"t be worse than G.W.Bush.

[Sir Suomi]

Yeah that's right... You can"t be worse than G.W.Bush.

I'd actually be just about completely different than him. My policies are aimed at reducing our governmental influences both domestically and internationally.

[Vlerchan]

Cont.

Tripartite Education similar to the United Kingdom.
Students not progressing towards third-level education must serve at least 12 months in the armed-forces.
Students must start learning a foreign language from age four. I'm considering having children form a base in Esperanto.
Students must participate in PPE from age eleven.
Non-Euro immigrants processed on the basis of skills requirements - at least until economic development flattens out across Europe.
Immigrants must serve at least 12 months in the armed forces before becoming naturalised.
Prison should be de-emphasised [for all non-violent crimes] and asset-consistant fining and community service should be preferred.
Prisoner privileges should be based around educational attainment - with opportunities for development within prison.

I night add some more as I think of them.

[dxcxdzv]

I'd actually be just about completely different than him. My policies are aimed at reducing our governmental influences both domestically and internationally.
I will call you Monroe Jr.

[Stronk Serb]

I will call you Monroe Jr.

There are worse alternatives. *cough* Vučić Aleksandar *cougj cough*

Also I would work on repairing relations with our neighbors and sign no tarrifs agreements and maybe crossing the border without a passport, only the ID.

[phuckphace]

George S Patton and Phuckphace the worst presidents of American history. xD

so u don't think hitler-kun is kawaii? ^__^

[Vlerchan]

Svarog: I'm quite sure Serbia has a no tariffs agreement with its neighbours. Even Kosovo.

[Stronk Serb]

Svarog: I'm quite sure Serbia has a no tariffs agreement with its neighbours. Even Kosovo.

It doesn't as far as I know. We definitely don't have with Hungary and Montenegro. I am sure we have no tariff agreement with Kosovo, only tax exemptions for selling our goods up north, but that thing is full of crap and has been abused a lot.

[Vlerchan]

I double checked.

It has a free trade agreement with it's non-EU neighbours through CEFTA.
It has a free trade agreement with EU neighbours through an interim agreement with the EU.

You also wouldn't be able to establish a FTA with members of the EU that are neighbours because that goes against EU rules.

[Stronk Serb]

I double checked.

It has a free trade agreement with it's non-EU neighbours through CEFTA.
It has a free trade agreement with EU neighbours through an interim agreement with the EU.

You also wouldn't be able to establish a FTA with members of the EU that are neighbours because that goes against EU rules.

Then, fuck the EU. I will try for a free passage through neighboring countries, only ID's, no passports needed. I would try for FTA with other non EU members

[tonymontana99]

Oh lmao. Sorry I didn't see it. Your ideas are sort of like mine except I would emphasize on the state's stronger grip on the economy, since it would be the state that will revitalize most industries. Also strive towards making a healthy society, no decadent or immoral behaviour allowed in public places.

I agree, keep decadency and degeneracy to each one's home. Also, ban smoking and after consideration, ban all drugs, except for alcohol.

[Body odah Man]

Well, the title says it all.
My first years of rule as Governor-General would be full of purges of politicians who caused problems for us, purging the elements which encourage degrading and immoral behaviour because it's damaging the moral standard of the population, screw over the EU and the IMF, team up with Russia and China. Then the era of peace starts. I would limit my appearances, delegate executive powers on a county level and keep the media free, as long what is said is true. I would also lower taxes and raise salaries to their level in 2008 work on strenghtening our currency and resurrect our industry. Education and living standard would be top priority. I would nationalise major companies and others would be free or partly owned by the state. Also tax the church and the rich, especially those who can't prove the origin of their wealth. Bust down tax evaders and encourage exports and implement mercantilist policies.

Even if you WERE to be in a position to implement all these changes, there is a chance of 1 in a million that
a. you would be able to counteract all the lies and deceit that would be used to stop your measures from having their intended effect.
b. you wouldn't become corrupted by power by mistake
c. your actions wouldn't have unintended consequences.

Talk is cheap

[Judean Zealot]

A Jewish theocracy.

I would reinstitute the Sanhedrin and constitutional monarchy, purge the land of idolatrous religions (such as Trinitarian Christianity), rebuild the Temple of Jerusalem, reinstitute the sacrificial rites, and in general reinstate Torah law to the country (the particulars of which can fill a library). I would allow the Muslims to establish their own Sharia courts for their own people.

Drug dealers would receive the death penalty, and anyone caught posessing pornographic material will be prosecuted.

[Stronk Serb]

I agree, keep decadency and degeneracy to each one's home. Also, ban smoking and after consideration, ban all drugs, except for alcohol.

I wouldn't ban smoking, it's not as dangerous as drugs and alcohol. Never heard of a guy smoking and then eating a guy's face from a tobacco-infused frenzy. I would ban it in closed areas, except for pubs where there would be separate areas.

Even if you WERE to be in a position to implement all these changes, there is a chance of 1 in a million that
a. you would be able to counteract all the lies and deceit that would be used to stop your measures from having their intended effect.
b. you wouldn't become corrupted by power by mistake
c. your actions wouldn't have unintended consequences.

Talk is cheap

Passing legislation that all media must be based on truth and facts would stop it, especially if I decide what's true.

A Jewish theocracy.

I would reinstitute the Sanhedrin and constitutional monarchy, purge the land of idolatrous religions (such as Trinitarian Christianity), rebuild the Temple of Jerusalem, reinstitute the sacrificial rites, and in general reinstate Torah law to the country (the particulars of which can fill a library). I would allow the Muslims to establish their own Sharia courts for their own people.

Drug dealers would receive the death penalty, and anyone caught posessing pornographic material will be prosecuted.

What would you do about polytheists (pagans)? I would promote our folk religion, so I want your stance on those. Many pagans were prosecuted harshly, like the Jews.

[Judean Zealot]

What would you do about polytheists (pagans)? I would promote our folk religion, so I want your stance on those. Many pagans were prosecuted harshly, like the Jews.

No idolatry in the land of Israel. Period. Do what you will elsewhere, but not in our land. Persecution or no persecution, idolatry cannot be tolerated. Whether the idolatry takes the form of a seven armed statuette, a hammer wielding warrior, or a rotten hunk of flesh hanging from a cross, it's all the same to me. Sorry.

[Body odah Man]

I wouldn't ban smoking, it's not as dangerous as drugs and alcohol. Never heard of a guy smoking and then eating a guy's face from a tobacco-infused frenzy. I would ban it in closed areas, except for pubs where there would be separate areas.



Passing legislation that all media must be based on truth and facts would stop it, especially if I decide what's true.



What would you do about polytheists (pagans)? I would promote our folk religion, so I want your stance on those. Many pagans were prosecuted harshly, like the Jews.

Um, no. That would only fix one or two problems, if that. It would do nothing to fix your potential succumb to megalomania, it might just make it even more likely.

[phuckphace]

I agree, keep decadency and degeneracy to each one's home. Also, ban smoking and after consideration, ban all drugs, except for alcohol.

what about ganja (alcohol is worse)?

[DoodleSnap]

Well, the title says it all.
My first years of rule as Governor-General would be full of purges of politicians who caused problems for us, purging the elements which encourage degrading and immoral behaviour because it's damaging the moral standard of the population, screw over the EU and the IMF, team up with Russia and China. Then the era of peace starts. I would limit my appearances, delegate executive powers on a county level and keep the media free, as long what is said is true. I would also lower taxes and raise salaries to their level in 2008 work on strenghtening our currency and resurrect our industry. Education and living standard would be top priority. I would nationalise major companies and others would be free or partly owned by the state. Also tax the church and the rich, especially those who can't prove the origin of their wealth. Bust down tax evaders and encourage exports and implement mercantilist policies.
Despite our best efforts, none of us is incorruptible. Having the power to decide what media is and isn't 'true' is a recipe for abuse. Once you start to believe your own lies, and doublethink sets in, which it does for everyone, eventually, then the state is out of control of a rational mind. Centralization of power can be very dangerous...
But nonetheless, that is another discussion for another day.

As for the original question, as a bit of fun:
-I would enforce greater teaching of sexuality and psychology in our schools, as the lack of education on the subjects is harmful to our youth.
-I would decriminalize every currently prohibited drug, and ban media spreading the taboo around narcotics.
-Encourage free speech and honesty to one's feelings.
-Reduce arms spending to a minimum, and become a negotiator state, akin to Germany.
-Have much greater safechecks and control to prevent abuse by intelligence agencies, and to prevent mass-spying of the citizens.
-I would make it illegal to redefine words and spread it about. Fucking SJWs and their redefining of the words racism and sexism. "Systematic oppression, blah, blah, blah..." That is not what they mean, we have different terms for those things.
-Encourage questioning of what has been established, through the education system, with a separate stufy of conservatism to balance "progression".
-Make a really big sensory shower in my palace with a bunch of cool mood lights and shit.
-Increase spending on psychology, science, and education.

I don't know. Probably some other stuff, too :P

[Stronk Serb]

Despite our best efforts, none of us is incorruptible. Having the power to decide what media is and isn't 'true' is a recipe for abuse. Once you start to believe your own lies, and doublethink sets in, which it does for everyone, eventually, then the state is out of control of a rational mind. Centralization of power can be very dangerous...
But nonetheless, that is another discussion for another day.

As for the original question, as a bit of fun:
-I would enforce greater teaching of sexuality and psychology in our schools, as the lack of education on the subjects is harmful to our youth.
-I would decriminalize every currently prohibited drug, and ban media spreading the taboo around narcotics.
-Encourage free speech and honesty to one's feelings.
-Reduce arms spending to a minimum, and become a negotiator state, akin to Germany.
-Have much greater safechecks and control to prevent abuse by intelligence agencies, and to prevent mass-spying of the citizens.
-I would make it illegal to redefine words and spread it about. Fucking SJWs and their redefining of the words racism and sexism. "Systematic oppression, blah, blah, blah..." That is not what they mean, we have different terms for those things.
-Encourage questioning of what has been established, through the education system, with a separate stufy of conservatism to balance "progression".
-Make a really big sensory shower in my palace with a bunch of cool mood lights and shit.
-Increase spending on psychology, science, and education.

I don't know. Probably some other stuff, too :P

Ordnung muß sein! There will be no shitty tabloids spreading news what some elite hooker did in a reality show. People will be well fed, well educated and well paid.

[Vlerchan]

I would decriminalize every currently prohibited drug, and ban media spreading the taboo around narcotics.
It's not heroine! It's CNN!

[phuckphace]

Breaking Bad should be banned for perpetuating the myth that meth and heroin are deadly drugs that destroy lives

[Sir Suomi]

I will call you Monroe Jr.

I can't tell if that's supposed to be viewed as a negative or positive comment lol :P

I actually agree with Monroe's political philosophy. He was in favor of returning power to the states instead of the federal government and started our foreign policy that last really up until the later 1800's.

[dxcxdzv]

I can't tell if that's supposed to be viewed as a negative or positive comment lol :P

I actually agree with Monroe's political philosophy. He was in favor of returning power to the states instead of the federal government and started our foreign policy that last really up until the later 1800's.
That's neither negative nor positive, I'm not an expert in American political history (even if I'm really interested in it) but your thoughts seem to be a bit like his ones. So.

[Stronk Serb]

Um, no. That would only fix one or two problems, if that. It would do nothing to fix your potential succumb to megalomania, it might just make it even more likely.

So? Having a bloodthirsty dictator ruling you is better than the society we (the Serbs) currently live in.

[Vlerchan]

I would try for FTA with other non EU members[.]
I don't understand the reason the EU is being excluded here.

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-I would make it illegal to redefine words and spread it about. Fucking SJWs and their redefining of the words racism and sexism. "Systematic oppression, blah, blah, blah..."
It also wasn't SJW redefining words here, it was just them adopting their definitions within academia (sociology).

[Stronk Serb]

I don't understand the reason the EU is being excluded here.

In the EU, Serbia would be just another Lithuania or Bulgaria, without any real freedom of choice, besides, the EU started meddling too much into the affairs of member countries.

[Sir Suomi]

Breaking Bad should be banned for perpetuating the myth that meth and heroin are deadly drugs that destroy lives

They kind of do man. I understand that you should be free to make your own choices on what you put into your body, but trying to say that they are not deadly and/or destroy lives is factually incorrect. While yes, they do have positive aspects to them if use in small doses periodically, they are extremely harmful to the body as soon as one becomes a frequent and heavy user which is common to happen seeing as they are extremely easy to become addicted to.

[dxcxdzv]

In the EU, Serbia would be just another Lithuania or Bulgaria, without any real freedom of choice, besides, the EU started meddling too much into the affairs of member countries.
You are kidding right?
Right?

[Stronk Serb]

You are kidding right?
Right?

No. I am dead serious.

[dxcxdzv]

No. I am dead serious.
Lol for saying that the members countries haven't any freedom or choice you really must don't know what the UE is.
The UE tends to be a confederation, it exists to be a confederation. If you can't understand and accept that, well, get the hell out of the UE.
Then we will see who will help you with your economic, political and military problems. Perhaps the Russians will be more kind with Serbia after a short invasion.

[Stronk Serb]

Lol for saying that the members countries haven't any freedom or choice you really must don't know what the UE is.
The UE tends to be a confederation, it exists to be a confederation. If you can't understand and accept that, well, get the hell out of the UE.
Then we will see who will help you with your economic, political and military problems. Perhaps the Russians will be more kind with Serbia after a short invasion.

The Russians would help us, without the invasion. The fact that you said the EU is a confederacy means the member states must have same external relations with everyone. For example, Hungary faced heavy backlash when they wished to have natural gas supplied directky to them from the Russians. They acted on their best interests. Besides, I would prefer to be a Balkan parter to Russia than EU's personal bitch and indebted slave. Also you talked about helping member nations, you didn't help Croatia with their recent fires even though they pleaded, but the Russians offered but were refused. Also Russia helped us a lot during heavy flooding last year. Also the EU is nit for the interests of all member states, it's more for interests of France and Germany, so fuck 'em. Also don't get me started on small production for consumption only by the producer.

[Vlerchan]

In the EU, Serbia would be just another Lithuania or Bulgaria[.]
It's going to be of economic and geopolitical irrelevance regardless. I would argue it's better in a union that can be made to function in it's interests.

Though last time I checked it was fine for Serbia to be within Yugoslavia.

[...] without any real freedom of choice [...]
I find this point too vague to address.

the EU started meddling too much into the affairs of member countries.
I'm fine for the EU to form a full-scale federation so irreconcilable differences might lie at this point. Though regardless it shouldn't be an issue when it comes to just signing free trade agreements with the EU.

For example, Hungary faced heavy backlash when they wished to have natural gas supplied directky to them from the Russians.
Because it undermines European geopolitical interests. It would have faced this had it just been allied with the EU. I also don't think it's in it's interests to have done this - but that's irrelevant to the debate.

Also you talked about helping member nations, you didn't help Croatia with their recent fires even though they pleaded[.]
The EU commits to combatting national disasters that surpass national capacities. It's funded work against forest fires before in the Balkins.

Also Russia helped us a lot during heavy flooding last year.
Since its launch in 2001, the EU Civil Protection Mechanism has monitored over 300 disasters and has received more than 200 requests for assistance. It intervened in some of the most devastating disasters the world has faced, including the floods in Serbia and Bosnia and Herzegovina (2014), the Ebola outbreak in West Africa (2014), the conflict in Ukraine (2014) and the earthquake in Nepal (2015).

http://europa.eu/rapid/press-release_MEMO-15-5411_en.htm

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I don't quite mind the attack on European interests coinciding to a greater degree with French and German interests. There's no reason that's required to be the case though.

[Body odah Man]

So? Having a bloodthirsty dictator ruling you is better than the society we (the Serbs) currently live in.

Wow Serbia must be a terrible country then :(

[Stronk Serb]

It's going to be of economic and geopolitical irrelevance regardless. I would argue it's better in a union that can be made to function in it's interests.

Though last time I checked it was fine for Serbia to be within Yugoslavia.


I find this point too vague to address.


I'm fine for the EU to form a full-scale federation so irreconcilable differences might lie at this point. Though regardless it shouldn't be an issue when it comes to just signing free trade agreements with the EU.


Because it undermines European geopolitical interests. It would have faced this had it just been allied with the EU. I also don't think it's in it's interests to have done this - but that's irrelevant to the debate.


The EU commits to combatting national disasters that surpass national capacities. It's funded work against forest fires before in the Balkins.


Since its launch in 2001, the EU Civil Protection Mechanism has monitored over 300 disasters and has received more than 200 requests for assistance. It intervened in some of the most devastating disasters the world has faced, including the floods in Serbia and Bosnia and Herzegovina (2014), the Ebola outbreak in West Africa (2014), the conflict in Ukraine (2014) and the earthquake in Nepal (2015).

http://europa.eu/rapid/press-release_MEMO-15-5411_en.htm

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I don't quite mind the attack on European interests coinciding to a greater degree with French and German interests. There's no reason that's required to be the case though.

1. Yeah because we were the de facto most populous republic of Yugoslavia and the union's workhorse and we had a lot of power in the union.

2. Yes, but I find my interests best fullfilled with cooperation with Russia than the EU. They wouldn't force us to apologize for massacres during the nineties while the other three sides do not do the same. Also theee could be a lot of money to be made by allowing Russians to establish bases here. They already have a battalion stationed here as a natural disaster assistance. Besides, Russia along with China put a veto on the Srebrenica resolution which was pushed for by the USA and the UK, an EU member. That tells me the EU top dogs don't respect countries willing to join, so I will follow our old saying, "who's crazy, don't be his friend".

3. Yeah but aren't the member states supposed to be free in decision making?

4. But what about the fires in Croatia? They are on their own.

5. Because we are a country with little to no production or exports, our markets will be flooded with cheaper goods from the rest of the EU. I might be willing to join if we had something to flood the EU markets with. Also the EU prohibits mercantilist or protectionist policies. Also the stance on immigration, some countries can't financially handle them.

[dxcxdzv]

Vlerchan answered you but I want add something more.
Do you know why Russia is so kind with Eastern Europe countries?
C'mon, think about it. What is motivating the ex-URSS to be friendly with its ex-territories?
UK = UE member... Well... Not really in fact.

be "free in decision making" doesn't match with ultimate goal of the UE, when you join the UE you accept to let a part of your power go to a way more powerful organization, something that is above your sovereignty. I say it again, if you can't understand that (as a country not as a human being) get the hell out.

For the fires... Dude there is fires everywhere. How much are they big? I didn't find any good article about it.

The mercantilism is a bad thing, and the protectionism against the other European countries is bad too (well since Greece this is no longer a absolute truth).

The fact that immigration has a negative impact on a country economy is subject to debate.

[Stronk Serb]

.


Vlerchan answered you but I want add something more.
Do you know why Russia is so kind with Eastern Europe countries?
C'mon, think about it. What is motivating the ex-URSS to be friendly with its ex-territories?
UK = UE member... Well... Not really in fact.

be "free in decision making" doesn't match with ultimate goal of the UE, when you join the UE you accept to let a part of your power go to a way more powerful organization, something that is above your sovereignty. I say it again, if you can't understand that (as a country not as a human being) get the hell out.

For the fires... Dude there is fires everywhere. How much are they big? I didn't find any good article about it.

The mercantilism is a bad thing, and the protectionism against the other European countries is bad too (well since Greece this is no longer a absolute truth).

The fact that immigration has a negative impact on a country economy is subject to debate.



Yeah, we would be a lesser partner of a more powerful organisation but it doesn't suit our national interests because France and Germany call the shots. Besides I wouldn't count on your military aid, not after the Ukraine crisis where you were bound by a treaty from the nineties to protect Ukraine's territorial sovereignty. I would rather try it on my own to progress. And besides, my authoritarian regime wouldn't get me into the EU so, screw it. In stereotypicalterms, I would prefer the alcoholics as a friend than a greedy banker as a "friend".

[dxcxdzv]

The Ukrainian crisis is much more complex that you seem to think.
The UE can't open the fire on civilians or on Russian soldiers.
It's a civil war where Russia does anything it can to prevent any solutions.

I don"t think you will be free to make any choices when Russian soldiers will come to you and say : "Yep, it's Russia now, you civilians voted it."

[Stronk Serb]

The Ukrainian crisis is much more complex that you seem to think.
The UE can't open the fire on civilians or on Russian soldiers.
It's a civil war where Russia does anything it can to prevent any solutions.

I don"t think you will be free to make any choices when Russian soldiers will come to you and say : "Yep, it's Russia now, you civilians voted it."

You can redtore territorial sovereignty. I'm talking about Crimea. Also you don't get our relations with Russia. Read it up.


https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russia%E2%80%93Serbia_relations

[dxcxdzv]

You can redtore territorial sovereignty. I'm talking about Crimea. Also you don't get our relations with Russia. Read it up.


https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russia%E2%80%93Serbia_relations
Yeah I know that. And I know that the Serbian Parliament wanted (and still wants I think) Serbia to be part of Russia. Well, you're probably right, I don't get how someone can choose Russia, another country, rather than the UE, a confederation (to be), furthermore democratic.
You're talking about sovereignty but you tend to identify yourself as part of Russia.

Aaaaaah the old good time of the USSR. Fucking fascists who want to enslave Europe. Hm sorry. Don't kill me Putin.

[Stronk Serb]

Yeah I know that. And I know that the Serbian Parliament wanted (and still wants I think) Serbia to be part of Russia. Well, you're probably right, I don't get how someone can choose Russia, another country, rather than the UE, a confederation (to be), furthermore democratic.
You're talking about sovereignty but you tend to identify yourself as part of Russia.

Aaaaaah the old good time of the USSR. Fucking fascists who want to enslave Europe. Hm sorry. Don't kill me Putin.

Keep trolling. The Serbian Parliament never wanted to be integrated into Ussia, only have them as a great power ally.

[dxcxdzv]

Keep trolling. The Serbian Parliament never wanted to be integrated into Ussia, only have them as a great power ally.
FR Yugoslavia/ Serbia In 1999 the Parliament of the Federal Republic of Yugoslavia voted for the country to join the Union. In 2007 Tomislav Nikolic said during a speech that he wished that Serbia would strengthen its ties with and eventually join the Union State.[25] Serbia has since submitted its application to the EU.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Union_State
Well all this shit about Russia and Eastern Europe is not trolling, it's History.

[Stronk Serb]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Union_State
Well all this shit about Russia and Eastern Europe is not trolling, it's History.


So? I still think it's better than the EU, being a partner state of the Union State.

[dxcxdzv]

So? I still think it's better than the EU, being a partner state of the Union State.
You think what you want. But if another messy affair appears like in the 90s don't go whimper to the EU.

It reminds me what Russians did to their "allies" in Spain before Franco.

[Stronk Serb]

You think what you want. But if another messy affair appears like in the 90s don't go whimper to the EU.

It reminds me what Russians did to their "allies" in Spain before Franco.

Hahahahahah, the West pretty much fanned the fire of the nineties, Germany armed the separatists, the US trained them... honestly, joining the EU after that would be the dumbest thing.

Hey, we bombed the shit out of you and ripped out your country to pieces, giving you shameful conditions, only to you, indebting you like crazy. What do you want now?
- I want of join pl0x
Sure thing, get to your post as our personal bitch and let the rape begin! If something happens, we will care for you enough so we can keep raping you!

Still you signed a treaty guaranteeing Ukraine's territorial sovereignty, and you let Russia annex Crimea. The signing countries were UK, USA, Germany and France. I guess you are following the footsteps of post WWI France and UK, all talk, no action. Remember when you handed Austria and Czechoslovakia to Hitler? When negotioating, the Czechoslovaks weren't allowed to have their diplomats present and you handed them over to Hitler? Or when you allowed him to breach the army limit and retake the Rheinland.

[dxcxdzv]

Yeah that's right Western Europe countries are bastards.
Let's suck the dick of a country which invaded us and let us into shit when it went out. Of A country which has robbed its "allies".
Of a country which invades without any casus belli.

Your accusations aren't even founded. Germany wanted the Yugoslavia to be dismantled but where did you see that they "armed the separatists"?
However the Yugoslavia was destined to disappear.

You're just being choleric. Go do the fuck you want with your country.
Yugoslavia "is a poor country". Ho. I wonder why.
EU "is full of rapers". Ho. I wonder how had been the Russians during the last century.
Stop fooling yourself by hating Europe because "you love so much the kawaii Russia" and start thinking about all this shit a bit more logically.
I don't expect you to answer to this post.
You do what you want I don't give a fuck.

[Stronk Serb]

Yeah that's right Western Europe countries are bastards.
Let's suck the dick of a country which invaded us and let us into shit when it went out. Of A country which has robbed its "allies".
Of a country which invades without any casus belli.

Your accusations aren't even founded. Germany wanted the Yugoslavia to be dismantled but where did you see that they "armed the separatists"?
However the Yugoslavia was destined to disappear.

You're just asking choleric. Go do the fuck you want with your country.
Yugoslavia "is a poor country". Ho. I wonder why.
EU "is full of rapers". Ho. I wonder how had been the Russians during the last century.
Stop fooling yourself by hating Europe because "you love so much the kawaii Russia" and start thinking about all this shit a bit more logically.
I don't expect you to nswer to this post.
You do what you want I don't give a fuck.

The Croatian separatists were armed with East German Kalashnikov model rifles which were pulled out of usage after the unification of Germany. Before you start accusing other countries, look at the countries you are defending first. Both France and Germany invaded without valid casus bellis, sure the Russians did too, but it's a tad bit hypocritical to accuse them without looking what you did too. The Russians stuck up for us when it mattered, Germany and France... not so much, maybe not even at all. Also you are lobbying for the Donbass rebels not getting independence but when the Kosovo separatists revolted, you even fought alongside them. Also about the poor remark, we would be even poorer in the EU because most of our domestic goods would get flushed out of our market because of free trade, which in turn would cause economic problems. Cooperation with Russia would only increase our revenues from exporting to them. Also the rape remarks were aimed towards economuc relations with smaller countries where their governments are methaphorically raped by German debt. Sure, if you want to end the discussion, be my guest.

[Vlerchan]

Yeah because we were the de facto most populous republic of Yugoslavia and the union's workhorse and we had a lot of power in the union.
Ok. That doesn't address the original point I made.

The point about Yugoslavia was just an aside.

2. Yes, but I find my interests best fullfilled with cooperation with Russia than the EU. They wouldn't force us to apologize for massacres during the nineties while the other three sides do not do the same. Also theee could be a lot of money to be made by allowing Russians to establish bases here. They already have a battalion stationed here as a natural disaster assistance. Besides, Russia along with China put a veto on the Srebrenica resolution which was pushed for by the USA and the UK, an EU member. That tells me the EU top dogs don't respect countries willing to join, so I will follow our old saying, "who's crazy, don't be his friend".
I find the pettiness here quite astounding. You're argument here is that Russia is better because it won't make Serbian's apologise for one of the most grievous human rights violations post-1945 and will also pay to use Serbia as a landing strip.

3. Yeah but aren't the member states supposed to be free in decision making?
No.

But no-one's free in our globalised world, national sovereignty is little more than a buzzword.

4. But what about the fires in Croatia? They are on their own.
I explained this. The EU won't intervene unless national capacities aren't sufficient.

Because we are a country with little to no production or exports, our markets will be flooded with cheaper goods from the rest of the EU. I might be willing to join if we had something to flood the EU markets with. Also the EU prohibits mercantilist or protectionist policies. Also the stance on immigration, some countries can't financially handle them.
Serbia produces a lot cheaper than the rest of Europe, it'd be the other way around.

Though we discussed before that Free Trade hasn't been bad for Serbia.

The demographic profile of immigrants also makes them net contributors to national budgets, so that's also a non-argument.

Besides I wouldn't count on your military aid, not after the Ukraine crisis where you were bound by a treaty from the nineties to protect Ukraine's territorial sovereignty.
The Budepest Memorandum declares that signatories must respect the territorial integrity of the Ukraine, not protect it. It was also just signed by the UK, not the EU. But in the case that the several members of the EU had signed it, do you believe that these countries should be allowed to drag the EU into conflict?

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I'm not bothered with the irrelevancies of the rest of the thread.

[Stronk Serb]

I find the pettiness here quite astounding. You're argument here is that Russia is better because it won't make Serbian's apologise for one of the most grievous human rights violations post-1945 and will also pay to use Serbia as a landing strip.


No.

But no-one's free in our globalised world, national sovereignty is little more than a buzzword.


I explained this. The EU won't intervene unless national capacities aren't sufficient.


Serbia produces a lot cheaper than the rest of Europe, it'd be the other way around.

Though we discussed before that Free Trade hasn't been bad for Serbia.

The demographic profile of immigrants also makes them net contributors to national budgets, so that's also a non-argument.


The Budepest Memorandum declares that signatories must respect the territorial integrity of the Ukraine, not protect it. It was also just signed by the UK, not the EU. But in the case that the several members of the EU had signed it, do you believe that these countries should be allowed to drag the EU into conflict?

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I'm not bothered with the irrelevancies of the rest of the thread.

1. Really? What about Iran-Iraq war? Also the other sides commited human rights violations. Croatians did the operation "Oluja" in which 6,000 Serbs were killed and 600,000 forced out of their homes. Instead of apologizing they celebrate the day the operation started. Also Bosniaks don't apologize for shooting Serb unarmed retreating soldiers in the middle of Sarajevo. We haven't got a single apology since, but we broke our backs apologizing.

2. Ok, I would still bargain away my sovereignty to someone who respects it.

3. And what does that exactly mean? National capacities of other member nations?

4. Yeah but EU laws would shut down production for personal consumption only, unneeded regulations in agriculture, our only exporting branch, would cause severe problems. Refugee immigration caused Hungary and Austria to stop accepting because they don't want to go bankrupt. EU regulations caused that, as in when a refugee enters the EU, the firat country he enters pays for him.

5. Ok, sure.

[Vlerchan]

1. Really? What about Iran-Iraq war? Also the other sides commited human rights violations. Croatians did the operation "Oluja" in which 6,000 Serbs were killed and 600,000 forced out of their homes. Instead of apologizing they celebrate the day the operation started. Also Bosniaks don't apologize for shooting Serb unarmed retreating soldiers in the middle of Sarajevo. We haven't got a single apology since, but we broke our backs apologizing.
I'm not going to get into Balkans guilt-letting.

I just think preferring Russia to the EU for these reasons is pettiness incarnate.

2. Ok, I would still bargain away my sovereignty to someone who respects it.
The EU can't affect a countries territories outside of the terms designated in treaties. The codified nature of its dealings seems a lot more assuring than what Russia provides.

3. And what does that exactly mean? National capacities of other member nations?
I have no idea what part of the text this refers to.
4. Yeah but EU laws would shut down production for personal consumption only, unneeded regulations in agriculture, our only exporting branch, would cause severe problems.
That's not Serbia's single export group. Regardless EU policies lead to massive subsidies being offered to agriculture. It's the reason developed countries still manage to hold onto the sector.

Refugee immigration caused Hungary and Austria to stop accepting because they don't want to go bankrupt. EU regulations caused that, as in when a refugee enters the EU, the firat country he enters pays for him.
Ok. So the problem is with the EU's policies on refugees. I'd separate that from immigration.

Hungary has less than 500 refugees within it's borders. So I'd like to see sources demonstrating that the EU has bankrupt it through its policies in this regard. I'd also appreciated evidence with regards to Austria.

[Stronk Serb]

I'm not going to get into Balkans guilt-letting.

I just think preferring Russia to the EU for these reasons is pettiness incarnate.


The EU can't affect a countries territories outside of the terms designated in treaties. The codified nature of its dealings seems a lot more assuring than what Russia provides.


I have no idea what part of the text this refers to.

That's not Serbia's single export group. Regardless EU policies lead to massive subsidies being offered to agriculture. It's the reason developed countries still manage to hold onto the sector.


Ok. So the problem is with the EU's policies on refugees. I'd separate that from immigration.

Hungary has less than 500 refugees within it's borders. So I'd like to see sources demonstrating that the EU has bankrupt it through its policies in this regard. I'd also appreciated evidence with regards to Austria.

Ok, let's agree that we think differently on what's better for Serbia. Also I don't like the doubke standards regarding EU integrations with ex-Yugoslav countries.

Also, about the Austria and Hungary thing, they are building large walls on their borders to stop immigrants and refugees from crossing illegaly. And when refugees enter the EU, the country that pays for them is the first EU country they enter, since most of them are going through the Balkans, their first stop is Hungary.

[tonymontana99]

Oh lmao. Sorry I didn't see it. Your ideas are sort of like mine except I would emphasize on the state's stronger grip on the economy, since it would be the state that will revitalize most industries. Also strive towards making a healthy society, no decadent or immoral behaviour allowed in public places.

Yes, and I also forgot to mention the adoption of a full Eugenics program. Forced euthanasia of all those who are physically and/or mentally incapacitated to the point where they can't work and require major medical support; gene modification to create healthy humans without physical abhorrences. At first, if the population was very "muh feelings" and "muh human rights", we'd let the couples keep their monstrosities with a catch: they cover the medical expenses by 100%. No citizen would pay to support their unfit children. There would also be incentives to abort their children if they had major defects (promotions, free appointments for 1 year, etc. things like that). Down the line, we'd have the most pure civilization of all time. And then off we go to colonize Mars and the Moon.
But I agree 100% with your "no decadent or immoral behaviour allowed in public places" policy. Openness about sex and things that should be private has gone way too far, these days. I'm not saying every woman should wear a burka, but at least some decency. We'd also have to make major reforms in the media for them to stop glorifying things like homossexuality and transgenderism, as they are ultimately destroying our society in the long run.

[Jean Poutine]

Prime Minister Jean Poutine of Quebec would :


Put forward yet another sovereignty referendum proposal to the people in the first months of his election.


Let's assume that is successful. What would my independent Quebec look like?

Economic and foreign policy :


No economic deal with Canada. Full sovereignty over the St. Lawrence waterway and imposition of commercial transit fees for all shipping passing through our territory, on land or sea, whether destined for the Maritimes or Europe outbound or Toronto inbound.
Quebec will take on its part of the federal debt, not at a per capita ratio, but at a per asset ratio. This will insure the debt we get is healthy infrastructure debt that serves us instead of forever paying for Western infrastructure and greatly lessen the amount we need to shoulder.
No partition of sovereign Quebec territory.
As per international law, Quebec will not be an automatic signatory to any treaty binding Canada. Quebec shall not rejoin any economic free trade area such as NAFTA.
Creation and use of own currency on the greenback model. Creation of a fully public central bank issuing public fiat money. Fractional reserve banking and possibly usury (as in any interest, not just unfair rates) are outlawed. In the latter case, replacement by a flat loan fee.
Full nationalization of the banking system. All banking profits go directly in the State's coffers. Certain fees removed, as it is ludicrous a citizen should have to pay a third party to access his own money.
Full nationalization of resource extraction industries (especially in northern Quebec). Increased mining output.
Heavy "food tax" on unhealthy food products such as fast food. Funds raised by this tax will subsidize locally produced organic foodstuff, especially fruits and vegetables. The goal is to make it more expensive to eat shit food than to eat well.
Heavy inheritance taxes to break up dynastic holds on certain industries.
Promotion of local competition to international conglomerates : foreign-based corporations will incur additional taxes, even if a branch is registered as a Quebec company.
In the retail sector, particularly heavy subsidies and incentives to local "mom and pop" shops over big box retail.
Increased spending in general infrastructure. Government contracts awarded on the basis of a cost/quality analysis instead of always taking the cheapest option. Massive increase in Hydro-Québec funding to fully develop hydroelectricity potential, with the goal of becoming a renewable energy superpower.
Gradual implementation of agricultural workfare for those able to work to replace the loss of Mexican labour due to the non-adherence to NAFTA and other policies, along with other measures of workfare. To be phased out as spending in infrastructure increases and creates jobs.
The above supplemented by a BUI scheme (enough for rent, nutritious food and the very basics of life) to replace all other forms of social transfer payments (child payments, old age security, etc).
Most fines to be "progressive", raising with the person's income, especially for economic, "white collar" crimes.
Progressive reduction in sales and income tax as the country stabilizes.
Public investment (ie. by public banks) encouraged to invest in industry. Return to Quebec of lucrative, skilled factory jobs. Private investors provided with incentives to invest in industry.
Investments by public banks shall be made in Quebec or in companies based in Quebec only.
Land on the territory may be owned solely by Quebec citizens. Leasing is available for foreigners.
The entirety of Quebec's foreign policy will consist of screwing with Israel, for no other reason than it is absolutely hilarious and would make for memorable headlines.
More seriously, Quebec will be strictly non-aligned. Generally protectionist trading policy, always favouring local entrepreneurs over foreigners. Hefty tariffs for non-essential imported products.
No international aid payments will be made.
The right of the country to declare war will be constitutionally limited. Quebecers are not aggressors!


Justice :


Return of hard labour sentences, especially for white collar crime. Hard labour sentences will respect every standard of human decency and prisoners will be compensated (albeit at lower than minimum wage rates).
Prohibition of abortion, except in cases of rape, incest or possible danger to the mother's health. The money saved on publicly-funded abortion will be used to subsidize contraception methods.
Legalization (and taxation) of cannabis. Amount bought per day may not be over a certain level. Prohibition of tobacco.
Prohibition of circumcision and FGM, even for religious reasons.
Full prohibition of prostitution, for clients as well as providers. Pimping shall be prosecuted especially harshly as pimping will be considered a form of slavery.
Physical castration for particularly disgusting sexual offences, for example repeated, grave or numerous child sexual abuse, is available as a sentence to the courts.
Jail sentences shall focus on rehabilitation if the court recognizes this potential. The possibility of rehabilitation will be presumed unless proven otherwise. Jail shall consist mostly of education and training resources in addition to restrictions on personal freedom. Upon successful completion of a training course in jail, a person's criminal history shall be hidden to private background checks to allow him/her access to the job market, as long as the criminal history is composed of only one crime that is not too serious.
Criminals deemed absolutely impossible to rehabilitate can be sentenced to hard labour for life without pay or life in jail. Special cells for these inmates will offer only the bare humane minimum, comparable to max security prisons.
If they turn out to be impossible to control even when imprisoned (extremely disruptive behaviour in labour camps, for example, murdering another inmate or a guard or repeatedly sabotaging the workplace), they can be executed. This is the only instance where capital punishment is legal, and it will be doled out only if 100% absolutely convincing proof is offered (for example, being filmed doing it) during a fair and public trial. If there is even 1% doubt, capital punishment is unavailable. Due to these special circumstances, appealing is not possible and the sentence is carried out as swiftly as possible. The firing squad will be the method of execution, at close range and aiming for the head to make sure death is instantaneous.
Criminals convicted of crimes against the public good (grievous financial fraud, tax evasion, electoral fraud, bribing officials, whether offering or receiving) lose the right to present themselves for office forever. Additionally, they lose the right to vote for a period of time suitable to the crime committed. Electoral fraud or the bribery of public officials, whether it is offered or accepted, remove the right to vote from perpetrators entirely and depending on the gravity of the offence, may carry long hard labour sentences. Public officials caught accepting bribes are sacked and they lose the right to any public pension, no exceptions.
Lobbying is illegal : private interest groups will go through the same channels as ordinary citizens for access to elected representatives. Lobbyists are considered white collar criminals and prosecuted accordingly.
Tax evasion is considered theft against the entire nation and will be prosecuted extremely harshly.
Equalization of the sentencing gap : women shall receive equal sentences to men for the same crime. Currently, women are heavily favoured by judges and nearly always get a lighter sentence than a man for the same crime.
False complaints to the police, including but not limited to rape or spousal abuse, will be prosecuted to the full extent of the law. Note, however, that a false complaint must be demonstrated to have been made knowingly and with malice aforethought, the same standard as today.
Same-sex parents may no longer adopt children, but they may still marry. All other acquired rights and protections unchanged.
No specific transsexual rights recognized. Sex change operations will no longer be publicly funded (and may become illegal). No accommodations, for example in public facilities, on the base of identified gender. Gender dysphoria reclassified as a mental illness and treated as such - therefore, protection against discrimination will still apply via the blanket protection for handicapped people.
Restriction of no-fault State divorce : cases will be adjudicated on a case by case basis, but not as strictly as before.
Equal and joint custody to be set as the default norm in the adjudication of valid divorce cases with children unless a parent is clearly unable or unwilling to have custody.
Child support payments set as a % of income and capped to a maximum amount sufficient for the needs of the child(ren). They are only awarded if equal and joint custody is not ordered.
Prospective fathers may opt out of paying child support, but give up any and all parental rights to the child(ren) in return.
Prenuptial agreements are now set in stone and are the law setting the conditions for divorce. They may not be overturned by the judge as long as they are reasonable : "reasonable" in this case shall receive a generous interpretation.
Removal of juries. All cases to be adjudicated by a judge or a panel of judges only.
Gradual rewriting of laws and regulations in order to purge them of Legalese and make them understandable to every citizen.
Simplified procedure. Procedural vices, unless grievous, intentional or numerous, will no longer be sufficient to award cases by default. Reductions in court and filing fees.
Encouragement of pro se representation. With the law rewritten and the procedure simplified, any citizen should be able to represent himself before the courts.
Removal of quasi-judicial powers from certain executive agencies - streamlining of administrative courts.
Return of local justice : municipal courts will play a bigger role in the justice system. Small villages may nominate justices of the peace for simple cases if they are qualified.
In civil cases, the court will try to scale damage awards with a litigant's income as much as possible. The more they earn, the more they pay, keeping in mind the nature and facts of the case.
Damages that can be received by a complainant shall be capped to a certain amount. This is to avoid unjust enrichment that could occur for relative trifles caused by lucrative corporations. Damages past a certain amount are given to charity.


Society, immigration and education :


Conscription and compulsory reserves in effect for everyone aged 18-45. Conscripts will not serve overseas. Conscription term will be 1.5 years. Conscientious and religious objectors will be able to serve in a civil infrastructure corps instead, building and maintaining roads, offering support to the population in the case of natural disasters, etc. During conscription, physical standards must be achieved.
Encouragement of the traditional nuclear family : children, one man at work, one woman at home. Glorification of the role of the housewife. Stay-at-home wives will be able to benefit from a lessened amount of BUI as an incentive and married, stable and cohabiting couples will receive very significant financial incentives if they have children. Other programs to make women with children leave the workplace. As more women stay at home, minimum and market wages will increase accordingly. Note that women with no children may still work as before.
Incentives for single parent homes to put any children up for adoption. Note that a child in joint custody is not considered to be from a single parent household, even if custody is not equal. Single parents may no longer adopt children : no exceptions.
Ethnic nationalism and solidarity encouraged at all levels of society.
As recognition of their importance in Quebec history and as the first inhabitants, First Nations will be recognized and respected. All ancestral rights recognized by Canada will be recognized by Quebec, except direct payments : such sums will be invested in services and infrastructure instead. In addition, they will be consulted when the government intends to build infrastructure on their territory, and if a profitable industry such as hydroelectricity or natural resources is built on their lands, they will receive a fair share of the profits to be reinvested in their territory. Particular efforts will be made to preserve their language and culture for prosperity. The learning of their ancestral language in school will be encouraged, and it will be possible for White Quebecers to take classes in the most widely spoken native languages as foreign language credit as a form of respect. Schools and training centers will be provided to allow them to attain economic freedom and Native entrepreneurship will be encouraged. Particular focus will be put in education on the mixed origins of a vast majority of Franco-Quebecers, whose ancestors married the Natives instead of willfully slaughtering them : the age-old English slur of Quebecers being impure white mongrels will be elevated as a national identity instead. Natives will be encouraged to contribute to the greater life of the country as historic brothers, but also to keep and cherish their ancestral identity if they so wish : a privilege that shall be granted to no other minority.
Abolition of the Ministry for Women. It shall be replaced with a Ministry for Harmony, responsible for all gender-related matters, male or female, including, for example, male suicide and homelessness, prostitution and sexual harassment in the workplace.
Health care is a national right and the universal health care scheme will continue. In addition, creation of Pharma-Québec to regulate the country's buying of drugs and engage in R&D. Locally developed drugs will be bought over foreign multinational conglomerates' versions. Generics will always be bought over name brands unless none exist.
Obese people who must receive health care services for a condition based solely on their excess weight, if not in turn caused by a legitimate condition, may be liable to refund part of the cost to the government.
Incentives for people to engage in physical conditioning : discounted government gyms or subsidized gyms in the workplace, as well as subsidies on physical activities.
Quebec's vast hydroelectric potential will be emphasized in public life. Electric cars will become the norm over combustion engines by way of generous financial incentives.
Anglo-Quebecers shall receive services only where the number justifies the expense (the standard in Anglo-Canadian provinces concerning Franco-Canadians). There is no reason for a single digit minority to receive a third of the education funding as today. The excess of education funding will go to French institutions. However, where justified, services must be provided as a constitutional imperative.
Abolition of every "positive discrimination" scheme, even if by a private corporation, by gender or race. Applicants will receive jobs solely based on their skillset. Limited exceptions for Natives only will be allowed, but only as long as their economic emancipation is not complete and only in areas with large Native populations such as the north.
Vastly reduced annual quotas for immigrants (90%+). Skills are vastly increased in importance in the selection. Western university education put above Third World university education : recognition that the two are not equal. Immediate degree equivalence recognized for Western university graduates after a test administered by a professional order. French language ability will be a very significant factor in selection : obligatory French classes for immigrants not meeting the standard. Racial and religious discrimination in the selection of immigrants legal to favour White immigration.
Quebec will not allow refugees from any country : anyone claiming asylum will be swiftly deported, except in extremely rare circumstances.
Citizenship test administered to immigrants focusing on Quebec history and the French language.
Employment discrimination legal against non-citizens and non-French speakers.
Complete ostentatious religious neutrality in public life : the wearing of any religious identifier in public institutions is forbidden.
Tolerance of hassidim fuckery in Montreal and Boisbriand and fundamentalist Islamic fuckery in Montreal will cease. There will be no more religious schools and any found illegally operating will be shut down and the users and providers heavily fined. Incentives will be provided to all these merry people to leave for wherever, as long as they leave.
Incentives offered to dual citizens, first generation immigrants of non-White extraction to return to their birth country, especially if non-French speaking.
Automatic deportation of immigrants found guilty of a crime of sufficient gravity.
As written above, education funding for Anglo and Franco-Quebecers will be made proportional to their relative population.
Return to old methods of pedagogy. French, history, maths and science will become the cornerstones of the education system. The relative difficulty of these classes will increase : 6th graders will be made familiar with classical French authors such as Molière, Voltaire, Racine, Corneille, Baudelaire, etc. Particular focus on reading skills. Grading will become much harsher. Science and history classes will be available at all grades starting from grade 2. Students who have failed a year will be held back (they are currently not, how crazy is that?)
Heavy encouragement of gifted students : classes tailored to their intelligence level will always be provided with generous funding. Financial incentives may be offered to successful students by way of small stipends. Equality in mediocrity will cease.
Private schools will no longer be funded by the government as they are currently. In fact, private schools may become illegal to attract talent into governmental gifted programs.
Healthy academic competition fostered among students. Promotion of diligent and hard work over natural abilities.
Encouragement of home schooling following the public curriculum.
Abolition of the current "religious study" classes which teach students the basics of all religions. Will be replaced by a civic life class focusing on national pride, responsibilities and involvement in public life.
Introduction of basic law classes in high school so that all citizens know their rights.
McGill shall be Francophone.
Education will be fully free from the cradle to the grave for citizens. Students above a certain GPA will receive funds. Parents will be encouraged to financially support their children during their education : in school, studying should always trump working.
Inverse quotas : programs like Women's Studies will be heavily limited in their capacity to admit students, while the quotas on programs like STEM fields or Law will be relaxed.
Strengthened academic freedom : faculties found to discriminate against research for purely political reasons will have their funding stripped.
Foreigners may attend Quebec universities, but will have to pay full tuition. Foreigners who complete a degree at a Quebec university, intend to live permanently in Quebec and meet all requirements for immigration will be fast-tracked preferentially through the process and will have their tuition reimbursed as a way of attracting new blood. Citizens who leave Quebec after completing a degree will have to reimburse tuition to the government as a lost investment.

[Vlerchan]

You changed, man. You changed.

[phuckphace]

Québec über alles

[Jean Poutine]

You changed, man. You changed.

Il n'y a que les fous qui ne changent pas d'idée.

[lliam]

I know a lot of fools, with regard to the EU.

[Left Now]

Sorry,but I still think the title is inappropriate.

[Stronk Serb]

Sorry,but I still think the title is inappropriate.

Well, if you want, you can remove the boot after you put it. Not everyone wants to be a dictator.

[ndrwmxwll]

my home country would cease to exist lol