Flat earth

[bruzer]

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Hi there everybody i am a very curious person an i love Science there is this controversy about the flat earth society its seemed pretty crazy to me but came to make sense after following it am i the only one or there anyone else who believes in this?

[SethfromMI]

Hi there everybody i am a very curious person an i love Science there is this controversy about the flat earth society its seemed pretty crazy to me but came to make sense after following it am i the only one or there anyone else who believes in this?

the world is not flat

[bruzer]

Thats what i thought but after folowing its documentary i had doubts if you care try to you may consider re-considering

[Emerald Dream]

Anxiety :arrow: The White Padded Room

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[Sir Suomi]

There isn't any debate regarding if the world is round or not. We solved that riddle centuries ago. Anyone who is telling you different is either very ignorant (That's the nice way to put it) or is plain out trolling you.

[Babs]

I think we can very safely say the earth is not flat.

[StoppingTom]

I'm like, 97% sure it is not flat

[Kahn]

Every photograph of Earth taken from space has shown it to be spherical in shape. If that isn't enough evidence for you, I suggest you read about the subject (http://www.physlink.com/Education/AskExperts/ae535.cfm).

The Earth is not flat.

[bruzer]

You guys should take a look at documentaries of flat earth,at least all of their evidence are strong.I'll be providing links on the best videos hope you will be checking them out

[Kacey]

The Greeks proved that the Earth was round in like 2000BCE... Or somewhere in that time period.

We can see that the Earth is round, just go up high enough, and look at the horizon. Or from orbit.

I can't fathom why anyone in their right mind would even begin to think the Earth was flat, especially when they have access to the combined knowledge of all mankind... I just can't see it

[Reg_]

The world is not flat it is an irregular sphere cuz or mountians and shiz

[angelchild]

How is this even a thing? Yes WAY back in the day people used to think the earth was flat and if you sailed long enough you would reach the edge of the earth but now we have so much evidence that the earth is round. I mean there are pictures of the earth from space that clearly show that it is in fact round. You can start flying in any one direction and go all the way around the earth and end up back right where you started. How could you do that if the earth was flat? This just blows my mind that there are actually people out there that think the earth is flat

[DoodleSnap]

As everyone else has said, we have empirical evidence that it is not flat; pictures, scientific essays, measurements, etc...
This is really a non-debate. As nice as it would be to believe their arguments, you have to hear the best arguments from both sides to form a proper opinion.

[sweettayla]

One of my dads best mates believes the Earth is flat, l've had my doubts about his sanity for years.....

[Let Me Be a Pony]

I can't believe you guys take OP seriously. Really, people? Don't forget what a troll is, made a thread a long time ago about how easily it IS to bait, it's easy as saying that black is white.

Guys, let me show you what a low quality bait is:
Earth is flat.
I got this thing that made me truly believe it, dude it has strong evidence.
Doesn't post "the thing".

Geez. OP, provide the "documentary" that turned your mind around if you're not a troll.

EDIT: GUYS, he was right. I feel so stupid. I'm sorry for doubting you, OP. I really am. I understand you now. I apologize for thinking you're a troll.

Here's the video that changed my mind:

87cWHh7t904

[ATOMICskittles]

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Hi there everybody i am a very curious person an i love Science there is this controversy about the flat earth society its seemed pretty crazy to me but came to make sense after following it am i the only one or there anyone else who believes in this?

The Earth is round, because gravity exists. Gravity acts on a fixed point/mass in all directions towards it in the universe. Hence why the Sun, and most large masses in the universe are spheres (circular). Plus, the Earth has a horizon, if the Earth were flat (completely impossible) there wouldn't be a horizon. AND there are literally pictures of the Earth showing it being round.

[bruzer]

I'm like, 97% sure it is not flat

i'm happy that you have some doubt about it

The Earth is round, because gravity exists. Gravity acts on a fixed point/mass in all directions towards it in the universe. Hence why the Sun, and most large masses in the universe are spheres (circular). Plus, the Earth has a horizon, if the Earth were flat (completely impossible) there wouldn't be a horizon. AND there are literally pictures of the Earth showing it being round.

check the link[https://youtu.be/7SbCs6CoU1w]it shows how the horizon comes as an illusion of distance and also how the son seen to be setting but its rather going further

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[ATOMICskittles]

check the link[https://youtu.be/7SbCs6CoU1w]it shows how the horizon comes as an illusion of distance and also how the son seen to be setting but its rather going further

LOL truly my fellow human, the Earth is undeniably round.

[bruzer]

I can't believe you guys take OP seriously. Really, people? Don't forget what a troll is, made a thread a long time ago about how easily it IS to bait, it's easy as saying that black is white.

Guys, let me show you what a low quality bait is:
Earth is flat.
I got this thing that made me truly believe it, dude it has strong evidence.
Doesn't post "the thing".

Geez. OP, provide the "documentary" that turned your mind around if you're not a troll.

EDIT: GUYS, he was right. I feel so stupid. I'm sorry for doubting you, OP. I really am. I understand you now. I apologize for thinking you're a troll.

Here's the video that changed my mind:

87cWHh7t904

"when the lie is repeated enough it becomes the truth to the weak willed masses, who really don't care because western entertainment is more important to the American people today!" a quote by Obama an d many late nobles this can be seen in several occasions:before news start a globe is shown in shops the models of people stand on a globe we only know what weve been taught that is what we are told from preschool "the earth is a sphere"out of geography,in history where its not related to earth they talk about the dark ages a time when people thought the earth was flat.

the world is not flat

give me any proof and i can prove you wrong with a strong evidence atleast

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what proof do you have

I think we can very safely say the earth is not flat.
any proof

[Let Me Be a Pony]

"when the lie is repeated enough it becomes the truth to the weak willed masses, who really don't care because western entertainment is more important to the American people today!" a quote by Obama an d many late nobles this can be seen in several occasions:before news start a globe is shown in shops the models of people stand on a globe we only know what weve been taught that is what we are told from preschool "the earth is a sphere"out of geography,in history where its not related to earth they talk about the dark ages a time when people thought the earth was flat.

“If you tell a lie big enough and keep repeating it, people will eventually come to believe it. The lie can be maintained only for such time as the State can shield the people from the political, economic and/or military consequences of the lie. It thus becomes vitally important for the State to use all of its powers to repress dissent, for the truth is the mortal enemy of the lie, and thus by extension, the truth is the greatest enemy of the State.”

The quote is ORIGINALLY by Joseph Goebbels(a nazi). This quote is also said by Hitler. Now the Great Obama is saying it? I ain't surprised. Are you seeing where this is going?
"Quoting" the Great Obama, the same person who decided to honor the Islam before honoring the 4 dead marines, which were killed by a radical muslim. Nice. Check his tweet on the day the 4 marines that were killed.

They called them Dark Ages for a reason, because these ages were low on knowledge. Scarce records are contained about the Dark Ages, but that's pretty much it.

Try harder, trollz0r.

[bruzer]

Every photograph of Earth taken from space has shown it to be spherical in shape. If that isn't enough evidence for you, I suggest you read about the subject (http://www.physlink.com/Education/AskExperts/ae535.cfm).

The Earth is not flat.

first of all all those pictures are fake but let assume they are not,first ask yourself what shape is the earth?if its not a perfect sphere then why are all those picture depicting a very perfect sphere like a marble while they say that due to gravity and rotation the earth is flat at the poles and bulge out at the centre.but if its a perfect sphere from your knowledge and learning then you are right the earth is a 'sphere'

The Greeks proved that the Earth was round in like 2000BCE... Or somewhere in that time period.

We can see that the Earth is round, just go up high enough, and look at the horizon. Or from orbit.

I can't fathom why anyone in their right mind would even begin to think the Earth was flat, especially when they have access to the combined knowledge of all mankind... I just can't see it

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TW__MZXMA7A doesnt look carved to me though

How is this even a thing? Yes WAY back in the day people used to think the earth was flat and if you sailed long enough you would reach the edge of the earth but now we have so much evidence that the earth is round. I mean there are pictures of the earth from space that clearly show that it is in fact round. You can start flying in any one direction and go all the way around the earth and end up back right where you started. How could you do that if the earth was flat? This just blows my mind that there are actually people out there that think the earth is flat

https://youtu.be/KlKWdw2t328 this is how you circumnavigate.take a look at this pictures:(http://media5.picsearch.com/is?GwD1y3CxCWpKngptKRSAeFVkJtB_L76Yd4-mlL_wXDQ&height=173) and https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/7/79/Flat_earth.jpg there are no direct flights from south africa to ausrtrali which would be possible in the 'spherical world'which is the first image but they go through Dubai,the distance is almost twice than going straight which no businessperson would allow due to cost.In the second picture you can see how that works easily its a straight flight fron S.A through Dubai and finally Australia.

i hope youve travelled a long distance on a plane if so during your flight did the aeroplane keep diving to compensate the increase in distance if you understand what i'm saying(put a ruler on a tennis ball you can see an increase in distance between the ball and the ruler)this means the plane has to dive after every mile to maintain the altitude but when i took a flight the plane took off,levelled we travelled to our destination where the plane started diving to land

The world is not flat it is an irregular sphere cuz or mountians and shiz
Do you have any proof

LOL truly my fellow human, the Earth is undeniably round.
Did u even take a look at the video

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[SethfromMI]

give me any proof and i can prove you wrong with a strong evidence atleast



what proof do you have


any proof

so all the scientists all these years who say the earth is round are liars? get out of here

[Kahn]

first of all all those pictures are fake but let assume they are not,first ask yourself what shape is the earth?if its not a perfect sphere then why are all those picture depicting a very perfect sphere like a marble while they say that due to gravity and rotation the earth is flat at the poles and bulge out at the centre.but if its a perfect sphere from your knowledge and learning then you are right the earth is a 'sphere'

The shadow of the Earth on the Moon during an eclipse and the way masts of ships are visible when they are out of sight on the horizon are the classical reasons our ancestors came to the conclusion the Earth is round.

I'm sure you have loads more scientific authority than Eratosthenes, but I'm going to trust the ancient Greek over the deluded millenial. He was, after all, able to understand this truth over 2,000 years ago.

[Kacey]

The shadow of the Earth on the Moon during an eclipse and the way masts of ships are visible when they are out of sight on the horizon are the classical reasons our ancestors came to the conclusion the Earth is round.

I'm sure you have loads more scientific authority than Eratosthenes, but I'm going to trust the ancient Greek over the deluded millenial. He was, after all, able to understand this truth over 2,000 years ago.

Let's not forget the fact that they proved the roundness of Earth using SHADOWS.

But seriously OP. None of what you are saying makes sense. First off, would it hurt you to at least try and use correct punctuation? If you are going to try and act smarter than an ancient mathematician, at least put some effort into your grammar. Next, that ONE video is NOT enough proof. IF you can come up with an ACTUAL APPROVED paper on the subject, then I might start to think differently. Until then, I will believe that you are just severely misinformed.

Here's the thing. Running around demanding "evidence" from other people who counter your argument is not how a debate works. You should not be worried about the other having evidence, but rather worry about providing convincing evidence from your side of the argument. I'm not saying that if they do give good convincing evidence, to just ignore it completely.

Seeing as this isn't really a debate, and more of one person screaming at a wall, I'm just going to stop there.

[DoodleSnap]

Let's not forget the fact that they proved the roundness of Earth using SHADOWS.

But seriously OP. None of what you are saying makes sense. First off, would it hurt you to at least try and use correct punctuation? If you are going to try and act smarter than an ancient mathematician, at least put some effort into your grammar. Next, that ONE video is NOT enough proof. IF you can come up with an ACTUAL APPROVED paper on the subject, then I might start to think differently. Until then, I will believe that you are just severely misinformed.

Here's the thing. Running around demanding "evidence" from other people who counter your argument is not how a debate works. You should not be worried about the other having evidence, but rather worry about providing convincing evidence from your side of the argument. I'm not saying that if they do give good convincing evidence, to just ignore it completely.

Seeing as this isn't really a debate, and more of one person screaming at a wall, I'm just going to stop there.
^^^

I don't really think that the OP is looking for a proper debate here, and is more content with being convinced by one side of the argument and trying to challenge others to prove his idea wrong. This is really a non-debate.

[Kacey]

^^^

I don't really think that the OP is looking for a proper debate here, and is more content with being convinced by one side of the argument and trying to challenge others to prove his idea wrong. This is really a non-debate.

Hence my "one person screaming at a wall" comment

[dxcxdzv]

bruzer : Holy shit dude do you really think the earth is flat?
Do you know what 3D is?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Earth%27s_magnetic_field
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gravity_of_Earth
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Structure_of_the_Earth
http://earth.nullschool.net/#current/wind/surface/level/orthographic=-339.37,14.19,288

Here's your proofs.

The liquid core and the rotation of the Earth permit the existence of a magnetic field that permits life on this huge rock.
This shitty huge rock is spheric.

Ahah so funny, even the Catholic Church admits that the Earth is spheric.

[StoppingTom]

I was being sarcastic...

[ATOMICskittles]

first of all all those pictures are fake but let assume they are not,first ask yourself what shape is the earth?if its not a perfect sphere then why are all those picture depicting a very perfect sphere like a marble while they say that due to gravity and rotation the earth is flat at the poles and bulge out at the centre.but if its a perfect sphere from your knowledge and learning then you are right the earth is a 'sphere'



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TW__MZXMA7A doesnt look carved to me though



https://youtu.be/KlKWdw2t328 this is how you circumnavigate.take a look at this pictures:(http://media5.picsearch.com/is?GwD1y3CxCWpKngptKRSAeFVkJtB_L76Yd4-mlL_wXDQ&height=173) and https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/7/79/Flat_earth.jpg there are no direct flights from south africa to ausrtrali which would be possible in the 'spherical world'which is the first image but they go through Dubai,the distance is almost twice than going straight which no businessperson would allow due to cost.In the second picture you can see how that works easily its a straight flight fron S.A through Dubai and finally Australia.

i hope youve travelled a long distance on a plane if so during your flight did the aeroplane keep diving to compensate the increase in distance if you understand what i'm saying(put a ruler on a tennis ball you can see an increase in distance between the ball and the ruler)this means the plane has to dive after every mile to maintain the altitude but when i took a flight the plane took off,levelled we travelled to our destination where the plane started diving to land


Do you have any proof


Did u even take a look at the video

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This is my last post because I will not entertain this nonsense anymore. The Earth is round, that is simply how gravity works. And since gravity is a uniform force that acts equally upon all masses, you can look at a comparable plant, say Venus, similar in size to Earth and it too is spherical in shape, a perfect sphere I can't answer that. Is the Earth a perfect sphere, no, in fact, on a very small scale (undetectable by the human eye in photos) the Earth is pear shaped (aka: egg shaped, ovoid), proven by scientific studies of which I cannot recall but (I believe it was done by NASA, again not sure) they found through many test and experiments it was pear shaped towards the top (like a pear). Earth a perfect sphere?, no, but is it close to being one, yes. Another piece of evidence is the fact that satellites revolve around Earth, the largest one being the Moon. Your long distance plane idea, while clever is incorrect, as gravity would continuously pull on the plane as it travels around the earth, so if your at 35,000 ft at any point in the sky, and you maintained that elevation, then at point B you would also be at 35,000ft. Thats the combination of inertia (the forward motion of the plane) and gravity (what keeps the plane in the curvature of the Earth). AND ultimately, I dare you to go tell an astronaut, who spent 3+ months on the International Space Station, looking out a window, seeing a ROUND Earth, that the Earth is flat. Okay. Believe what you want to believe if you so desire, I'm not bashing your party just stating facts :)

[Olly2001]

This thread is way to funny :D The earth is not flat. End of

[bruzer]

This is my last post because I will not entertain this nonsense anymore. The Earth is round, that is simply how gravity works. And since gravity is a uniform force that acts equally upon all masses, you can look at a comparable plant, say Venus, similar in size to Earth and it too is spherical in shape, a perfect sphere I can't answer that. Is the Earth a perfect sphere, no, in fact, on a very small scale (undetectable by the human eye in photos) the Earth is pear shaped (aka: egg shaped, ovoid), proven by scientific studies of which I cannot recall but (I believe it was done by NASA, again not sure) they found through many test and experiments it was pear shaped towards the top (like a pear). Earth a perfect sphere?, no, but is it close to being one, yes. Another piece of evidence is the fact that satellites revolve around Earth, the largest one being the Moon. Your long distance plane idea, while clever is incorrect, as gravity would continuously pull on the plane as it travels around the earth, so if your at 35,000 ft at any point in the sky, and you maintained that elevation, then at point B you would also be at 35,000ft. Thats the combination of inertia (the forward motion of the plane) and gravity (what keeps the plane in the curvature of the Earth). AND ultimately, I dare you to go tell an astronaut, who spent 3+ months on the International Space Station, looking out a window, seeing a ROUND Earth, that the Earth is flat. Okay. Believe what you want to believe if you so desire, I'm not bashing your party just stating facts :)
It's good that you acknowledge the earth is not a perfect sphere and why are the pictures from the moon showing the earth to be a perfect sphere and still you say the moon landings are real, if you can answer this question then I can believe you

[ptz7649]

the earth is most definatly spherical. There is sooo much evidence to suggest that. Look at all of the photos of earth from space and all the calculations that are made to counteract gravity when rockets lift off and the travel of planes!

[bruzer]

bruzer : Holy shit dude do you really think the earth is flat?
Do you know what 3D is?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Earth%27s_magnetic_field
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gravity_of_Earth
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Structure_of_the_Earth
http://earth.nullschool.net/#current/wind/surface/level/orthographic=-339.37,14.19,288

Here's your proofs.

The liquid core and the rotation of the Earth permit the existence of a magnetic field that permits life on this huge rock.
This shitty huge rock is spheric.

Ahah so funny, even the Catholic Church admits that the Earth is spheric.
No the bible quotes and spread to all the four corners of the earth
bruzer : Holy shit dude do you really think the earth is flat?
Do you know what 3D is?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Earth%27s_magnetic_field
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gravity_of_Earth
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Structure_of_the_Earth
http://earth.nullschool.net/#current/wind/surface/level/orthographic=-339.37,14.19,288

Here's your proofs.

The liquid core and the rotation of the Earth permit the existence of a magnetic field that permits life on this huge rock.
This shitty huge rock is spheric.

Ahah so funny, even the Catholic Church admits that the Earth is spheric.
No the bible quotes and spread to all the four corners of the earth “borders” in*Numbers 15:38. In*Ezekiel 7:2*it is translated “four corners” and again in*Isaiah 11:12*“four corners.” Job37:3*and*38:13*as “ends.” I would like to see your quote from the bible showing a the earth is a sphere

so all the scientists all these years who say the earth is round are liars? get out of here
Yes but until recently, Scientists Vote 'The Earth IS Flat-'And Why!' Check the vid on YouTube

^^^

I don't really think that the OP is looking for a proper debate here, and is more content with being convinced by one side of the argument and trying to challenge others to prove his idea wrong. This is really a non-debate.
Before I posted this I had done research and all the evidence on flat earth were strong beyond doubt that's why I asked if I was the only one who believed because I know most pple have been fooled and its hard to admit that but then I am one sided because I will be amazed to be proven wrong and again I have no strong evidence against flat earth and that's what I'm looking for

No the bible quotes and spread to all the four corners of the earth

No the bible quotes and spread to all the four corners of the earth “borders” in*Numbers 15:38. In*Ezekiel 7:2*it is translated “four corners” and again in*Isaiah 11:12*“four corners.” Job37:3*and*38:13*as “ends.” I would like to see your quote from the bible showing a the earth is a sphere
Oh and if you think about Isaiah 40:22*It is he that sitteth upon the circle of the earth, and the inhabitants thereof are as grasshoppers; that stretcheth out the*heavens as a*curtain, and spreadeth them out as a tent to dwell in: I'm sorry look for another verse because there is a difference between a circle and a sphere,a circle is like the one I put on the anxiety part



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[dxcxdzv]

So boy. Let me tell you that the Catholic Church RECOGNIZE the earth as spheric so don't talk to me about the Bible.
You also have to know that the Vatican itself has as an observatory.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vatican_Observatory

Do not even try to trick me with a book which I already know since I'm 6.

And I like the way you avoid all the rest of my message.
You've got a pretty pathetic way to trying demonstrate that what you say has a sens.

[Kacey]

This argument is even sadder than Creationism. I've looked up a number of videos, and holy sweet Jebediah, those "arguments" are terrible.

The horizon. This proves the roundness of the Earth. If it were flat, there would be no horizon, so all of these, "THE H0R1Z0N IS FLT THERE4 THE EARF IS FLT!" arguments are pretty stupid...

The spin of Earth. Earth spins. Simple enough. It bulges slightly at the equator, but is still nearly perfectly round. Simple fat is that it doesn't spin fast enough to flatten out, or else WE WOULDN'T BE HERE. If it spun fast enough to break it's own gravity, the Earth would have broken apart MILLIONS of years ago.

The sun. The motion of the sun in the sky also points to Earth being round. The fact that it rises and sets at different times around the world kinda ruins a "disk" Earth hypothesis (I don't think of them as theories, and neither does the scientific community). According to those, the sun makes a circle around the sky..

Lastly, physics. So many things wrong with the physics of Flat Earth hypothesis, from the fact that gravity wouldn't work, to the fact that a disk as thick as some of these suggest can't exist without changing the physics of our universe.

It's baffling that anyone can be brainwashed into believing such utter nonsense, not to mention try and defend it...

[Let Me Be a Pony]

So boy. Let me tell you that the Catholic Church RECOGNIZE the earth as spheric so don't talk to me about the Bible.
You also have to know that the Vatican itself has as an observatory.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vatican_Observatory

Do not even try to trick me with a book which I already know since I'm 6.

And I like the way you avoid all the rest of my message.
You've got a pretty pathetic way to trying demonstrate that what you say has a sens.

Surprisingly, troll OP is still responding by avoiding statements. Don't even bother anymore, lol.

To you, OP, the world is a square block, not flat, but square.
Why? Firstly, I got prove. Theoretically, every piece of land is square in a game called "Minecraft", AKA our planet is square. Counter this, OP.
Now, look at the room you're in. Is it flat? is it spherical? No, it's square, AKA the world is square.
You guys can give up debating, I already WON this.

[Leprous]

You guys should take a look at documentaries of flat earth,at least all of their evidence are strong.I'll be providing links on the best videos hope you will be checking them out

So pics of earth are not good enough but some document is? Wut.

No the bible quotes and spread to all the four corners of the earth

No the bible quotes and spread to all the four corners of the earth “borders” in*Numbers 15:38. In*Ezekiel 7:2*it is translated “four corners” and again in*Isaiah 11:12*“four corners.” Job37:3*and*38:13*as “ends.” I would like to see your quote from the bible showing a the earth is a sphere

May I add that the bible is a book that shouldn't be taken literally at all? I don't believe in that book but yeah.



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[bruzer]

So pics of earth are not good enough but some document is? Wut.
Which documents? So u don't believe in moon landing either do you

[Leprous]

Which documents? So u don't believe in moon landing either do you

Some documents are* And yes I do, I mean the documents you linked. You trust a website saying earth is flat but you don't accept pictures showing earth is round.

[bruzer]

Yeah if the picture were not showing the earth as a perfect sphere with even a little flatness at the poles I would believe it bet then they fucked up with their images and gave us a perfect sphere

[Kacey]

Yeah if the picture were not showing the earth as a perfect sphere with even a little flatness at the poles I would believe it bet then they fucked up with their images and gave us a perfect sphere

This is because the Earth is nearly a perfect sphere. You wouldn't be able to see the variations using just your eyes.

[bruzer]

So boy. Let me tell you that the Catholic Church RECOGNIZE the earth as spheric so don't talk to me about the Bible.
You also have to know that the Vatican itself has as an observatory.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vatican_Observatory

Do not even try to trick me with a book which I already know since I'm 6.

And I like the way you avoid all the rest of my message.
You've got a pretty pathetic way to trying demonstrate that what you say has a sens.
OK show me multiple quotes from the Catholic they shows the earth is a sphere

[Let Me Be a Pony]

OK show me multiple quotes from the Catholic they shows the earth is a sphere

Isiah 40:22
"Here is Your God!
…Do you not know? Have you not heard? Has it not been declared to you from the beginning? Have you not understood from the foundations of the earth? It is He who sits above the circle of the earth…"

I wonder what the Bible meant by "circle" of the Earth, cuz a circle definitely ain't flat(also, it ain't a sphere).
The Bible never says the earth is flat. You cannot find that anywhere in the Bible.

Now, OP, I do have prove that our planet is square, because the Bible says it:
Isaiah 11:10-12
"And gather together the dispersed of Judah
From THE FOUR CORNERS OF THE EARTH."

OP, debate harder, please. Too easy for me. Reason this ain't in ROTW is because you don't even know how to debate properly(besides that mad assumption).

[Kacey]

OK show me multiple quotes from the Catholic they shows the earth is a sphere

Never once in the Bible does it say that the Earth is either flat or round. You can misinterpret all you want, but it is never said.

[bruzer]

This argument is even sadder than Creationism. I've looked up a number of videos, and holy sweet Jebediah, those "arguments" are terrible.

The horizon. This proves the roundness of the Earth. If it were flat, there would be no horizon, so all of these, "THE H0R1Z0N IS FLT THERE4 THE EARF IS FLT!" arguments are pretty stupid...

The spin of Earth. Earth spins. Simple enough. It bulges slightly at the equator, but is still nearly perfectly round. Simple fat is that it doesn't spin fast enough to flatten out, or else WE WOULDN'T BE HERE. If it spun fast enough to break it's own gravity, the Earth would have broken apart MILLIONS of years ago.

The sun. The motion of the sun in the sky also points to Earth being round. The fact that it rises and sets at different times around the world kinda ruins a "disk" Earth hypothesis (I don't think of them as theories, and neither does the scientific community). According to those, the sun makes a circle around the sky..

Lastly, physics. So many things wrong with the physics of Flat Earth hypothesis, from the fact that gravity wouldn't work, to the fact that a disk as thick as some of these suggest can't exist without changing the physics of our universe.

It's baffling that anyone can be brainwashed into believing such utter nonsense, not to mention try and defend it...

This argument is even sadder than Creationism. I've looked up a number of videos, and holy sweet Jebediah, those "arguments" are terrible.

The horizon. This proves the roundness of the Earth. If it were flat, there would be no horizon, so all of these, "THE H0R1Z0N IS FLT THERE4 THE EARF IS FLT!" arguments are pretty stupid...

The spin of Earth. Earth spins. Simple enough. It bulges slightly at the equator, but is still nearly perfectly round. Simple fat is that it doesn't spin fast enough to flatten out, or else WE WOULDN'T BE HERE. If it spun fast enough to break it's own gravity, the Earth would have broken apart MILLIONS of years ago.

The sun. The motion of the sun in the sky also points to Earth being round. The fact that it rises and sets at different times around the world kinda ruins a "disk" Earth hypothesis (I don't think of them as theories, and neither does the scientific community). According to those, the sun makes a circle around the sky..

Lastly, physics. So many things wrong with the physics of Flat Earth hypothesis, from the fact that gravity wouldn't work, to the fact that a disk as thick as some of these suggest can't exist without changing the physics of our universe.

It's baffling that anyone can be brainwashed into believing such utter nonsense, not to mention try and defend it...
A quote from NASA page At the equator, the circumference of the Earth is 40,070 kilometers, and the day is 24 hours long so the speed is 1670 kilometers/hour ( 1037 miles/hr). This decreases by the cosine of your latitude so that at a latitude of 45 degrees, cos(45) = .707 and the speed is .707 x 1670 = 1180 kilometers/hr. You can use this formula to find the speed of rotation at any latitude. Wow faster than a supersonic jet and almost nearing sound which is at 1225km/hr provided with the best conditions to travel faster wow the 'earth is really slow'

[dxcxdzv]

OK show me multiple quotes from the Catholic they shows the earth is a sphere

Do you believe they ever think about it every day?
It's like asking "show me quotes from american government where it shows the Earth is a sphere.
Ask any father in the Vatican you ignorant american (sorry for the others americans...).

My education has been based on Catholicism and I can assure you that the Catholic Church is no more "middle aged" and no longer rejects any science. In fact, as I said the Vatican is studying the Universe.

[bruzer]

Yes it doesn't say any thing about flatness it mentions corners of the earth which can be a square or a rectangle or even a triangle but you have to understand the meaning of flat take for an instance a table it is flat be it circular or rectangle if you stick clay on it to rep a mountain it the table will remain flat

[Kacey]

A quote from NASA page At the equator, the circumference of the Earth is 40,070 kilometers, and the day is 24 hours long so the speed is 1670 kilometers/hour ( 1037 miles/hr). This decreases by the cosine of your latitude so that at a latitude of 45 degrees, cos(45) = .707 and the speed is .707 x 1670 = 1180 kilometers/hr. You can use this formula to find the speed of rotation at any latitude. Wow faster than a supersonic jet and almost nearing sound which is at 1225km/hr provided with the best conditions to travel faster wow the 'earth is really slow'

Alright, let's use math. Sure, the speed at which the Earth rotates is fast to US, but in a grand scale, rather slow. The speed of sound doesn't actually apply here either, since it doesn't stay consistent. Now, in order for an object to successfully reach a low-earth orbit, it must be traveling at 7.8km/s, or about 28080km/h. About 28 times as fast as the Earth spins. As altitude decreases, the velocity needed increases. At the surface of the Earth, that velocity would be much faster (roughly estimated 30-40 times the current rotation velocity) in order to be noticeably non-spherical. Therefore, the Earth is turning slowly enough to only slightly bulge in the middle.

[bruzer]

Are you goddam stupid?
Do you believe they ever think about it every day?
It's like asking "show me quotes from american government where it shows the Earth is a sphere.
Ask any father in the Vatican you ignorant american (sorry for the others americans...).

My education has been based on Catholicism and I can assure you that the Catholic Church is no more "middle aged" and no longer rejects any science. In fact, as I said the Vatican is studying the Universe.
in the 37 quote u said that the Catholic Church recognizes the earth as a sphere but now that you can't prove your point you want me to ask your Vatican father and insult me to be stupid huh

[dxcxdzv]

in the 37 quote u said that the Catholic Church recognizes the earth as a sphere but now that you can't prove your point you want me to ask your Vatican father and insult me to be stupid huh

I don't think you understand.
YOU ARE THE ONLY ONE IN THIS WORLD TO BELIEVE THE EARTH IS FLAT.
At least, you're part of the very few ones.
Do you understand now?


http://www.catholic.com/blog/jon-sorensen/how-to-answer-the-flat-earth-charge
Since Christopher Columbus the Church recognizes the Earth as spheric.
You also can see terrestrial globes in the Vatican.

Try to answer my first message before saying anything.

[Kacey]

Since Christopher Columbus the Church recognize the Earth as spheric.


Actually, most people back in that time believed the world to be round. His voyage was to determine if there was an easier way to India via sailing around the globe. Back then the dispute was the size, not the shape. The Church, however, I think I'll take your word for it.

[bruzer]

I don't think you understand.
YOU ARE THE ONLY ONE IN THIS WORLD TO BELIEVE THE EARTH IS FLAT.
At least, you're part of the very few ones.
Do you understand now?


http://www.catholic.com/blog/jon-sorensen/how-to-answer-the-flat-earth-charge
Since Christopher Columbus the Church recognize the Earth as spheric.

Try to answer my first message before saying anything.
Understand what maybe i am among the few to open our mid think reasonably H.L Mencken: The most dangerous man to any government is the man who is able to think things out for himself, without regard to the prevailing superstitions and taboos.*Almost inevitably he comes to the conclusion that the government he lives under is dishonest, insane and intolerable ooh which first question

[dxcxdzv]

Understand what maybe i am among the few to open our mid think reasonably H.L Mencken: The most dangerous man to any government is the man who is able to think things out for himself, without regard to the prevailing superstitions and taboos.*Almost inevitably he comes to the conclusion that the government he lives under is dishonest, insane and intolerable ooh which first question

This is your answer?
It's not because you believe in shit that you have the "true".
You're just a pathetic sophist.
You like omission isn't it?

[bruzer]

What have I ommited

[dxcxdzv]

Well approximately every things in my messages which you couldn't have be able to refute.
So, the fact that the Church does actually recognize the Earth as spheric, the story of magnetic field and gravity and everything about physics and mechanics.

bruzer : Holy shit dude do you really think the earth is flat?
Do you know what 3D is?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Earth%27s_magnetic_field
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gravity_of_Earth
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Structure_of_the_Earth
http://earth.nullschool.net/#current/wind/surface/level/orthographic=-339.37,14.19,288

Here's your proofs.

The liquid core and the rotation of the Earth permit the existence of a magnetic field that permits life on this huge rock.
This shitty huge rock is spheric.

Ahah so funny, even the Catholic Church admits that the Earth is spheric.

You are probably a troll but whatever.

[Kacey]

What have I ommited

You use the worst debate technique ever. If someone disproves your idea, you ignore it completely. Take a look back through this thread. There's so many things that you just skipped over because they disproved your idea with actual information. Not just some documentary on Youtube. You may think you are smart, but truly you aren't. If you were really smart, you would sit down, do some research on physics, and see the holes in this "theory" (still just a hypothesis to me). But instead you trust some (this sounds more like it) conspiracy theorists on the internet, who OBVIOUSLY know more than every scientist ever.

[bruzer]

You use the worst debate technique ever. If someone disproves your idea, you ignore it completely. Take a look back through this thread. There's so many things that you just skipped over because they disproved your idea with actual information. Not just some documentary on Youtube. You may think you are smart, but truly you aren't. If you were really smart, you would sit down, do some research on physics, and see the holes in this "theory" (still just a hypothesis to me). But instead you trust some (this sounds more like it) conspiracy theorists on the internet, who OBVIOUSLY know more than every scientist ever.
I'm sorry if i skipped anything which statement has disapproved me

[Kacey]

I'm sorry if i skipped anything which statement has disapproved me

The math I did earlier. All the links that Reise has posted, and pretty well any other post in this thread with information disproving your idea.

[Let Me Be a Pony]

Have smelled the word "trolling" in this thread for a long time, but I couldn't manage my eyes off the people who want to debate this with OP.

I'm sorry if i skipped anything which statement has disapproved me

Broski, you already won the debate. There ain't no point to take this further. Go easy on us, k?
BTW, knowledge is one thing, assumptions is another. Provide something which stands behind your given ideas.
PS, please respond to my replies on this subject, primary the one from the first page.

Oh, you don't reply to people who disapprove you.
Well then guys, what're we even doing here? Get outta here, ya'll. There's pretty much no reason to stay here.
I'm abandoning thread, so should everyone else.

http://i.imgur.com/q571SDL.gif

[Kahn]

You've got to be doing this for fun.

I'm sorry if i skipped anything which statement has disapproved me

http://www.independent.co.uk/incoming/article10403935.ece/alternates/w620/earthdscvr.jpg

This image was taken by NASA's new deep space satellite, DISCOVR, just several days ago. The photo was captured from a million miles away. (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/science/science-news/11752722/Amazing-picture-of-sunlit-Earth-from-one-million-miles.html)

http://i.stack.imgur.com/rhsjv.jpg
http://i.stack.imgur.com/MLlHh.jpg

There are numerous other ways of demonstrating that the Earth is round, or curved, at least, from analyzing the center of gravity to simply observing the other round objects that are visible in space; but I believe these illustrations to be the simplest to comprehend. You should give 'em a good hard look.

---

Classical reasons scientists of the past came to the conclusion our planet is spherical in shape.


The shadow of the Earth on the moon during an eclipse.
The way the masts of a ship become visible first, when said ship becomes visible on the horizon
The fact that the sizes of shadows vary from place to place.


Now I know that isn't enough for you, so I recommend you do this as well. Walk in a straight line for a long enough distance, turn right 90° degrees, walk in that same direction for the same distance, turn again to the right 90° degrees and walk again the same distance. After this you'll end up at the starting point. This is not possible on a flat surface since you'd just be "drawing" a half-finished square. (See: Figure 6.13)

http://i.stack.imgur.com/9jsnF.jpg

If that doesn't do it for you, you can build a simple pendulum and observe how it rotates as the day progresses. You can then put a pendulum on a stick or something that you can rotate yourself in order to demonstrate that when you rotate the stick, the pendulum will continue to swing in the same direction. This shows that the direction of movement of the pendulum will change relative to its base only if its base is rotated.

Pendulums can also be used to measure your latitude (its direction will change at different rates for different latitudes), and to measure the local value of g (the amount of time it takes to go through one cycle, or its period of oscillation, will vary with gravity).

---

We've been aware our planet is spherical (an oblate sphereoid if you really want to get technical) in nature for thousands of years, dating all the way back to Eratosthenes' in ancient Greece.

You are wrong, man.

[sweettayla]

The Earth is round, because gravity exists. Gravity acts on a fixed point/mass in all directions towards it in the universe. Hence why the Sun, and most large masses in the universe are spheres (circular). Plus, the Earth has a horizon, if the Earth were flat (completely impossible) there wouldn't be a horizon. AND there are literally pictures of the Earth showing it being round.
This doesn't explain helicopters though.

[Kacey]

This doesn't explain helicopters though.

How would a flat Earth explain helicopters better than a spherical Earth?

[jessie3]

The earth is definitely not flat, it seems flat because of our vision and perception.

[sweettayla]

How would a flat Earth explain helicopters better than a spherical Earth?
Helicopters don't fly, they're so ugly the earth rejects them. This brings into question various theories regarding a spherical earth and gravity.
PS. don't take to much notice of my bored ramblings in this thread.

[dxcxdzv]

Helicopters don't fly, they're so ugly the earth rejects them. This brings into question various theories regarding a spherical earth and gravity.
PS. don't take to much notice of my bored ramblings in this thread.
'The fuck?

[bruzer]

Okay ive been looking at these explanation first lets do away with the fake pics it shows a perfect sphere like a marble I bet your knowledge tells you its an oblate spheroid.The second pic agrees with my point I can see a long building from far it shrinks as you go further but does not dissappear from the bottom as you go further to make it easier use a tree to proof this as it reduces the distance required.the third one made me feel very dumb I ended up on someone's door not where I started I'm sure you have never tried it but rather assume it coz in math or physics it is correct and I've proved it. I don't understand quite what was to happen to the pendulum was it supposed to relate so that at one point of the day it would be hanging on a different direction

I have been wondering is there gravity on the moon? Please be polite on your reply coz I have really wanted to know this

I will answer the 3 questions with *later

-multiple posts merged. Please use the edit button in the future. -Emerald Dream

[Kacey]

Those pictures are, in fact, real. The Earth is so nearly spherical, that you wouldn't be able to see it with your bare eyes. The only reason we know it's not quite perfect is through math.

Secondly, you need something larger than a tree. A tall building will slowly "sink" below the horizon, while on a flat Earth, the building will be able to be seen forever (at least until a hill or something blocks your view. There is no such thing as a horizon on a flat Earth).

The 3 right-angle thing can only be done by traveling 90 degrees around the sphere at a time. It can't be done in your backyard.

The pendulum thing is difficult to explain, but it does happen.

As for Moon gravity, it exists. And because the moon is about 1/6 the mass of Earth, it exerts 1/6 the gravity of Earth

EDIT: some questions for OP here.

First off, how would the sun set and rise on a flat Earth? I've looked at many videos, and they show the sun as an orb that spins around above the Earth-disk, without ever setting. That kinda disproves itself, since we can just look at the way it moves. I'm curious to hear how you think this happens.

Next, where does the gravity from a flat Earth come from? Using conventional physics, a flat Earth would have some interesting gravity. I found a video on it VNqNnUJVcVs

That's all of my questions right now

[ObscurityHasNoHero]

Simple. Prove it for yourself. Dial up some Model rocket enthusiasts, attach a GoPro to the rocket, send it up 60,000ft and check for yourself to see if there is or is not a curvature to the earth.

[Miserabilia]

There are literaly milions of ways to proove the earth isn't flat. You can proove it yourself right now but most of these flat earth people probably haven't gotten off their ass for years so they don't even know what a horizon looks like.

[dxcxdzv]

Everything in this Universe exercise gravity, on itself and on all the others things of the Universe.

http://cposcience.com/home/Portals/2/Media/post_sale_content/PHY2/Ancillaries/SkillSheets/Unit_7/21.2_CalcGravField.pdf

http://www.studyphysics.ca/2007/20/02_dynamics/30_field_strength.pdf

http://www.school-for-champions.com/science/gravitation_force_objects.htm#.VbXrUnm9LCQ

You are exercising as much force on the Earth than the Earth exercise on you.

[ndrwmxwll]

you fools, the earth is concave (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XrcwpwhChUg) :eek:

[Plane And Simple]

Let's try and not say someone's technique is X or Y, but try teach them instead and keep it friendly

[Babs]

Fun fact: Magellan didn't sail arouns the earth. He actually had powers that allowed him to fly under it.

[thatcountrykid]

Yeah if the picture were not showing the earth as a perfect sphere with even a little flatness at the poles I would believe it bet then they fucked up with their images and gave us a perfect sphere

I think you misunder stood flatness a little bit. With something as big as the earth it's not gonna be that obvious. It's such a slight dofference that the human eye alone can't see it

[bruzer]

First of all the earth is big that we cannot feel it rotating even though it's rotating at then now it's so big that its flatness cannot be seen

At 1600km/hr wow even when a merry go round just starts I can feel it



Posts merged. Next time, please use the "Edit" button. -Alluring

[Kacey]

At 1600km/hr wow even when a merry go round just starts I can feel it

You were born as the Earth was rotating. The rotation has not sped up nor slowed down, therefore you wouldn't feel it. You've become acclimated to the constant speed of the Earth. IF the Earth were to suddenly stop, EVERYTHING would show it. Everything on the surface would suddenly fly east at nearly the speed of sound.

First of all the earth is big that we cannot feel it rotating even though it's rotating at then now it's so big that its flatness cannot be seen
It isn't that the flatness can't be seen, it can. Only through very precise measurements though. The human eye would not be able to see the distortion of the Earth. I mean, the difference is only by 70km or so (in circumference. 40,075.16 around the equator, 40,008 around the poles). On the scale of the Earth, that's nothing.

TL;DR: You can't feel the Earth spinning because you never felt it not spinning, and the Earth is only noticeably flatter at the poles through precise measurements.

[bruzer]

Ok why does the US govt and schools everywhere use a flat map and not a globe wouldn't it give inaccurate measurements?

[Kacey]

Ok why does the US govt and schools everywhere use a flat map and not a globe wouldn't it give inaccurate measurements?

Because globes are expensive, and nowhere NEAR big enough to see from a distance. Unless you pay a lot for them, not to mention how space-consuming they are. They just aren't practical.

Flat maps on the other hand, are cheap to produce and buy, take up a small amount of space, and can be seen from further away.

It really has nothing to do with the Earth being round or not, but rather space and budget constraints

[bruzer]

Wow so the govt cant provide a globe even for its millitary, they must be very poor.And please explain this and the accuracy

[Kacey]

Wow so the govt cant provide a globe even for its millitary, they must be very poor.And please explain this and the accuracy

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Philosophic_burden_of_proof

Since I'm tired of running in a circle, I'm bringing up the burden of proof. Since you have the positive claim here, the burden of proof is upon you, not me.

So, give some proof as to why the Earth is flat.

[bruzer]

OK you have failed to debunk me but I can continue to give you solid proof in any chance you can proof me wrong go ahead

Mississippi flows towards the equator which means its flowing uphill as you have been told the earth bulges it at the towards the equator the river is 3000miles due to the curvature of the earth it means in the middle the river should rise up 11 miles

Just FYI Mark Twain-its easier to fool people than to convince them that they have been fooled



Posts merged. Next time, please use the "Edit" button. -Alluring

[Kacey]

It is impossible to argue this with you any longer... I'm done. Carry on believing in whatever you want to believe in, but leave me out of it.

5FjWe31S_0g

Either you're a troll, or just severely misinformed ans closed-minded. Either way, arguing is pointless, and I'm done.

[bruzer]

Just FYI Mark Twain-its easier to fool people than to convince them that they have been fooled
Leonardo da Vinci-there r 3 pple those who see ,those who see when they are shown,those who don't see

[Babs]

Lol why even bother getting hot and bothered over a troll?

[bruzer]

Yes I know it is impossible to argue this because the truth can be hidden but can't be defied when I started this thread I said that I believed in the flat earth and I would change my mind if I got a solid evidence but so far everyone who has not been able to proof me wrong say they are leaving this thread and calling me a troll,well I don't the meaning of the word but I think it's a person who pulls people to the truth

[Hudor]

I was avoiding this thread for a long while but anyway.
I won't provide you any arguments or proofs because the other users have done quite a good job and literally presented a condensed form of centuries of research as proof. Trouble is you refuse to consider it as proof at all. Why people are calling you a troll is because you are refusing to see the obvious. It's like a person stating the sun revolves around the earth because most if not all of us have never been to space and don't know therefore.
Not meaning to let you down but if you try to see past the interesting alternative and actually process all the evidence provided on this thread, I'm sure you'll find your solid proof

[bruzer]

You've got to be doing this for fun.



image (http://www.independent.co.uk/incoming/article10403935.ece/alternates/w620/earthdscvr.jpg)

This image was taken by NASA's new deep space satellite, DISCOVR, just several days ago. The photo was captured from a million miles away. (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/science/science-news/11752722/Amazing-picture-of-sunlit-Earth-from-one-million-miles.html)

image (http://i.stack.imgur.com/rhsjv.jpg)
image (http://i.stack.imgur.com/MLlHh.jpg)

There are numerous other ways of demonstrating that the Earth is round, or curved, at least, from analyzing the center of gravity to simply observing the other round objects that are visible in space; but I believe these illustrations to be the simplest to comprehend. You should give 'em a good hard look.

---

Classical reasons scientists of the past came to the conclusion our planet is spherical in shape.


The shadow of the Earth on the moon during an eclipse.
The way the masts of a ship become visible first, when said ship becomes visible on the horizon
The fact that the sizes of shadows vary from place to place.


Now I know that isn't enough for you, so I recommend you do this as well. Walk in a straight line for a long enough distance, turn right 90° degrees, walk in that same direction for the same distance, turn again to the right 90° degrees and walk again the same distance. After this you'll end up at the starting point. This is not possible on a flat surface since you'd just be "drawing" a half-finished square. (See: Figure 6.13)

image (http://i.stack.imgur.com/9jsnF.jpg)

If that doesn't do it for you, you can build a simple pendulum and observe how it rotates as the day progresses. You can then put a pendulum on a stick or something that you can rotate yourself in order to demonstrate that when you rotate the stick, the pendulum will continue to swing in the same direction. This shows that the direction of movement of the pendulum will change relative to its base only if its base is rotated.

Pendulums can also be used to measure your latitude (its direction will change at different rates for different latitudes), and to measure the local value of g (the amount of time it takes to go through one cycle, or its period of oscillation, will vary with gravity).

---

We've been aware our planet is spherical (an oblate sphereoid if you really want to get technical) in nature for thousands of years, dating all the way back to Eratosthenes' in ancient Greece.

You are wrong, man.
That's not true we have been aware that the earth is flat since the old days in history we are told that early man believed in flat earth and we a re told that it was a dark age so that we can dismiss that.even bible,the buddhist and hindu and ancient egypt believe it's a flat earth with a dome around it well this globe thing started with the Nazis and the signing of the Antarctica treaty.In the 1800s when sailors reported seeing the North star 23.5° below the equator and that is when they introduced the tilt of of the earth doesn't this ring anything in your mind this added lie of the tilt came with its shortcomings. Study this thread if it rings anything I will explain the tilts shortcomings

Well approximately every things in my messages which you couldn't have be able to refute.
So, the fact that the Church does actually recognize the Earth as spheric, the story of magnetic field and gravity and everything about physics and mechanics.



You are probably a troll but whatever.
ITS LONG BUT EVIDENT AND EASY PLEASE READ AND DO IT PLEASE!!!.Thanks you just gave me more clue look at your last link of the orthographic map.do me a favour go to its setting by clicking on on the word earth and change these:mode-ocean.animate-waves.overlay-currents.now watch how the currents move in unordely way for no reason..Now on settings again go to projections and change it to AE from O which is a flat model now you can see how they move orderly with the high scale being in the middle where the sun and moon which causes tides as it pulls water going round.this should ring something in your mind

ITS LONG BUT EVIDENT AND EASY PLEASE READ AND DO IT PLEASE!!!.Thanks you just gave me more clue look at your last link of the orthographic map.do me a favour go to its setting by clicking on on the word earth and change these:mode-ocean.animate-waves.overlay-currents.now watch how the currents move in unordely way for no reason..Now on settings again go to projections and change it to AE from O which is a flat model now you can see how they move orderly with the high scale being in the middle where the sun and moon which causes tides as it pulls water going round.this should ring something in your mind
http://earth.nullschool.net/#current/wind/surface/level/orthographic=-339.37,14.19,288

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[Microcosm]

TWPR :arrow2: ROTW

[Kacey]

I know I said I'm done with this thread, but I believe I have cooled off a bit. I doubt that will last long.

Here's a videos that tears up Flat Earther's arguments, showing why they disprove themselves
U-CKunawlhA

And here's another couple videos I've found, so enjoy.
o_W280R_Jt8
9BRfDsXaScw

But, as I've stated above OP, the burden of proof is upon you. YOU must provide the proof, not wait for others to supply theirs first. Since we're now in ROTW, this is probably my last post here. I don't tread these waters for a reason.

[mattsmith48]

image (http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/07/14/2c0c14eaec8e0e6fc1cfffc4c5ca343a.jpg)

Hi there everybody i am a very curious person an i love Science there is this controversy about the flat earth society its seemed pretty crazy to me but came to make sense after following it am i the only one or there anyone else who believes in this?

The earth is not flat how can someone believe in that?

[Bluebyrd]

The fact that this thread exists makes me want to shoot myself

[bruzer]

The earth is not flat how can someone believe in that?
I really wonder

[Jean Poutine]

Okay, let's suppose for a moment the Earth is, in fact, flat.

Then why would 2000 years' worth of Western science claim the opposite? What benefits are there in making everybody think the Earth is spherical?

[mattsmith48]

I really wonder

What make you think the earth is flat

[bruzer]

What make you think the earth is flat
You can look at my posts if u r new I am still for more

[Judean Zealot]

Okay, let's suppose for a moment the Earth is, in fact, flat.

Then why would 2000 years' worth of Western science claim the opposite? What benefits are there in making everybody think the Earth is spherical?

Loominati ofc

[everlong]

Have we all agreed the Earth isn't flat yet?

[mattsmith48]

You can look at my posts if u r new I am still for more

Do you have any proof that the earth is flat a youtube video made by a guy with a tin foil hat in his mom's basement is not good enough?

[Kahn]

That's not true we have been aware that the earth is flat since the old days in history we are told that early man believed in flat earth and we a re told that it was a dark age so that we can dismiss that.even bible,the buddhist and hindu and ancient egypt believe it's a flat earth with a dome around it well this globe thing started with the Nazis and the signing of the Antarctica treaty.In the 1800s when sailors reported seeing the North star 23.5° below the equator and that is when they introduced the tilt of of the earth doesn't this ring anything in your mind this added lie of the tilt came with its shortcomings. Study this thread if it rings anything I will explain the tilts shortcomings


Since you seem to digest your information in the form of YouTube videos, here's a rather short video by a channel called minutephysics.

o_W280R_Jt8 (didn't realize Kacey linked this video :P)

Believe what you want to believe, bud. I and others have provided evidence as to how we know the Earth is round, and we've provided several different ways you can prove this fact to yourself if you're really in doubt. All you've done is construct various rationalizations based on a documentary (which documentary, exactly? All I can find are conspiracy videos on YouTube) that has no scientific merit whatsoever, it seems. You completely disregard not only the researched and universally accepted evidence, but you also disregard the photographic and video evidence that I and others have provided for you. You have an almost zealous belief that you are correct and are too stubborn to consider for a second that you may be wrong.

Make no mistake, you are wrong. But it is impossible to defeat an ignorant man in an argument.

ITS LONG BUT EVIDENT AND EASY PLEASE READ AND DO IT PLEASE!!!.Thanks you just gave me more clue look at your last link of the orthographic map.do me a favour go to its setting by clicking on on the word earth and change these:mode-ocean.animate-waves.overlay-currents.now watch how the currents move in unordely way for no reason..Now on settings again go to projections and change it to AE from O which is a flat model now you can see how they move orderly with the high scale being in the middle where the sun and moon which causes tides as it pulls water going round.this should ring something in your mind


http://earth.nullschool.net/#current/wind/surface/level/orthographic=-339.37,14.19,288

MOD NOTE: Triple post has been merged. Please use the "Edit" function to add onto previously made posts. ~Microcosm

http://i57.tinypic.com/1zd96a8.jpg

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coriolis_effect

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trade_winds

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Westerlies

Ocean currents can be generated by wind, density differences in water masses caused by temperature and salinity variations, gravity, and events such as earthquakes. (http://oceanexplorer.noaa.gov/facts/currents.html)

[bruzer]

Yes I can that you really are ignorant men to argue with.let everybody believe in their own fake moon landings where people drown In their so called spacesuits acted or thing that someone can do on their own and proof the flat earth

[mattsmith48]

Yes I can that you really are ignorant men to argue with.let everybody believe in their own fake moon landings where people drown In their so called spacesuits acted or thing that someone can do on their own and proof the flat earth

1. the moon landing wasn't fake
2. You don't have any proof the earth is flat

[Microcosm]

Yes I can that you really are ignorant men to argue with.let everybody believe in their own fake moon landings where people drown In their so called spacesuits acted or thing that someone can do on their own and proof the flat earth

1. How is he or anyone else being ignorant? All the people of this thread have done is provide verifiable proof that the Earth is round yet you choose to ignore it. Choosing to ignore something is ignorance. Therefore, they are not ignorant, but rather you are(and definitively so) being ignorant.

2. When were we ever talking about the Moon landing???? That's a completely different topic.

3. Prove the flat Earth? You haven't proved the flat Earth theory anywhere in this thread. In fact, the people in this thread have proved without-a-doubt that the Earth is round and there is no good reason that you or anyone has provided for me or anyone else to think otherwise.

MOD NOTE: Bruzer, if you continue to outright deny evidence for no reason whatsoever, then we may assume that you are only doing so to cause mayhem among users(aka trolling). If you continue to act in this way, this thread could potentially be locked. So, you have two options: Either admit that these people who have argued that the Earth is round are right, or you can actually address each individual point that they make and tell us why that point is wrong. Anything else will be considered as nothing more than trolling and will result in this thread being locked.

Furthermore, this thread is not to discuss the conspiracy that the moon landing did or did not happen. The posts discussing this will be removed shortly. If you would like to discuss this topic, you can certainly make a new thread in ROTW.

bruzer

[bruzer]

1. How is he or anyone else being ignorant? All the people of this thread have done is provide verifiable proof that the Earth is round yet you choose to ignore it. Choosing to ignore something is ignorance. Therefore, they are not ignorant, but rather you are(and definitively so) being ignorant.

2. When were we ever talking about the Moon landing???? That's a completely different topic.

3. Prove the flat Earth? You haven't proved the flat Earth theory anywhere in this thread. In fact, the people in this thread have proved without-a-doubt that the Earth is round and there is no good reason that you or anyone has provided for me or anyone else to think otherwise.

MOD NOTE: Bruzer, if you continue to outright deny evidence for no reason whatsoever, then we may assume that you are only doing so to cause mayhem among users(aka trolling). If you continue to act in this way, this thread could potentially be locked. So, you have two options: Either admit that these people who have argued that the Earth is round are right, or you can actually address each individual point that they make and tell us why that point is wrong. Anything else will be considered as nothing more than trolling and will result in this thread being locked.

Furthermore, this thread is not to discuss the conspiracy that the moon landing did or did not happen. The posts discussing this will be removed shortly. If you would like to discuss this topic, you can certainly make a new thread in ROTW.

bruzer
I understand you are a believer in the globe earth, you might be the same person replying to all of my thread because I got many name like troll which you clearly called me in the private message or paid to prevent the spreading of the truth coz how can people post that there were moon landing where they took pictures of the spherical earth - which is part of their evidence but for me when I try to proof that the moon landings were fake you say it's off to pic.ooh and another thing is that I'm just looking for a solid evidence to believe In the so called globe earth and not to make people believe in flat earth.
1. How is he or anyone else being ignorant? All the people of this thread have done is provide verifiable proof that the Earth is round yet you choose to ignore it. Choosing to ignore something is ignorance. Therefore, they are not ignorant, but rather you are(and definitively so) being ignorant.

2. When were we ever talking about the Moon landing???? That's a completely different topic.

3. Prove the flat Earth? You haven't proved the flat Earth theory anywhere in this thread. In fact, the people in this thread have proved without-a-doubt that the Earth is round and there is no good reason that you or anyone has provided for me or anyone else to think otherwise.

MOD NOTE: Bruzer, if you continue to outright deny evidence for no reason whatsoever, then we may assume that you are only doing so to cause mayhem among users(aka trolling). If you continue to act in this way, this thread could potentially be locked. So, you have two options: Either admit that these people who have argued that the Earth is round are right, or you can actually address each individual point that they make and tell us why that point is wrong. Anything else will be considered as nothing more than trolling and will result in this thread being locked.

Furthermore, this thread is not to discuss the conspiracy that the moon landing did or did not happen. The posts discussing this will be removed shortly. If you would like to discuss this topic, you can certainly make a new thread in ROTW.

bruzer

I understand you are a believer in the globe earth, you might be the same person replying to all of my thread because I got many name like troll which you clearly called me in the private message or paid to prevent the spreading of the truth coz how can people post that there were moon landing where they took pictures of the spherical earth - which is part of their evidence but for me when I try to proof that the moon landings were fake you say it's off to pic.ooh and another thing is that I'm just looking for a solid evidence to believe In the so called globe earth and not to make people believe in flat earth.
I've proofed them wrong.ohh my the same word troll u should look for another word.locking my thread is that a threat? I don't give a f#€ K you can block it

[Microcosm]

I don't give a f#€ K you can block it

He gave me permission, so.

No, but really. This thread has turned into nothing more than denial of actual fact. Enough has been said in this thread to prove you wrong entirely.

The act of trolling is defined by a user creating threads or posts that are deliberately off-topic or looking to cause unnecessary debate, and they only serve to annoy other members.

Unnecessary debate is what you are causing. The only thing you've done is annoy people. I moved this to ROTW before in hopes that someone could get through to you and so you could see how a real debate is done. People have done that and done so respectfully. All you've done is troll and deny empirical evidence.

Given all of the reasons listed above, this thread is now being locked.

:locked: