Supreme Court rules states must allow same-sex marriage

[Stronger]

Washington (CNN)—In a landmark opinion, the Supreme Court ruled Friday that states cannot ban same-sex marriage, handing gay rights advocates their biggest victory yet.

The 5-4 ruling had Justice Anthony Kennedy writing for the majority, with the four liberal justices. Each of the four conservative justices wrote their own dissent.

The relevant cases were argued earlier this year. Attorney John Bursch, serving as Michigan's Special Assistant Attorney General, defended four states' bans on gay marriage before the Court, arguing that the case was not about how to define marriage, but rather about who gets to decide the question.

The case comes before the Supreme Court after several lower courts have overturned state bans on gay marriage. A federal appeals court had previously ruled in favor of the state bans, with Judge Jeffrey Sutton of the Sixth Circuit U.S. Court of Appeals writing a majority opinion in line with the rationale that the issue should be decided through the political process, not the courts.

Fourteen couples and two widowers challenged the bans. Attorneys Mary Bonauto and Doug Hallward-Driemeier presented their case before the Court, arguing that the freedom to marry is a fundamental right for all people and should not be left to popular vote.

http://www.cnn.com/2015/06/26/politics/supreme-court-same-sex-marriage-ruling/

There you have it.

[ImCoolBeans]

This is a huge victory for America. Many people have been waiting a long time for this, and I'm proud to say that it has finally happened.

[Babs]

Ayyy all 50 states. This is music to my ears. It took 11 years to get all 50, but here we are.

[Abhorrence]

Woooooo! Well done America! :)

[Hideous]

I'm so happy omfg

[PinkFloyd]

Today, history was made. It's about fucking time too.

[DriveAlive]

I sure am proud to be an American today. Now its time to sit back and watch republicans scramble to criticize this.

[Lovelife090994]

Yes! Love is love!

[Southside]

Conservatives are shitting themselves this week
First Obamacare, now this

Anyway, i'm happy for those people who can finally marry who they want to marry

[Exocet]

What a shame.

[conniption]

Damn, it truly is a historic day. It's amazing that the U.S. was able to take this huge step towards equality.

[thatcountrykid]

Haha I like how everyone thinks conservatives/ republicans must be opposed to gay marriage.

I'm honestly not affected by this. It's just an oh ok for me. Nothing's changing in my life.

[Silicate Wielder]

I applaud the court on this decision. Now if we can only stop the hate against LGBT, or at least supress it.

[Melodic]

Fucking Finally America!

[Microcosm]

I think everyone knew it was going to happen, eventually. Such is the power of democracy. If the people want something bad enough, they're eventually going to get it.

But hey. Now men can marry men. It's a big change, but I suppose we'll have to get used to it whether we like it or not.

[LoveDat]

actually surprised haha really pleasantly tho!
finally i can move to the states haha

[Dalton504]

Amazing. America took a huge step in the right direction.

[Living For Love]

A historical day for the USA, indeed. Congratulations! :)

On another note, I remember reading a newspaper article about some guy who said he'd burn himself alive if this happened, so that's gonna be interesting.

[Typhlosion]

Finally!! Great news to hear and to also know one more step in the right direction! ������

Edit: The moment I heard of this I went straight to VT and posted the above in mobile. While this is amazing in every single way possible, I can't imagine how some people may be feeling after such a great news! Seriously, I have no idea how amazing of a news this can be to you guys but I'm really sharing the feeling!

Woot!!

[Danny_boi 16]

Proud to be an American today. Citizens ought to be treated like citizens not like animals.

[Southside]

Haha I like how everyone thinks conservatives/ republicans must be opposed to gay marriage.

I'm honestly not affected by this. It's just an oh ok for me. Nothing's changing in my life.

The South(which is majority Republican/Conservative) is in a uproar over this..Also, the most of the states that had bans on same sex marriage were of course, majority Republican/Conservative states such as Mississippi, Louisiana, Alabama.

I saw a statistic on TV today, 67% of Republicans oppose same sex marriage.

[thatcountrykid]

The South(which is majority Republican/Conservative) is in a uproar over this..Also, the most of the states that had bans on same sex marriage were of course, majority Republican/Conservative states such as Mississippi, Louisiana, Alabama.

I saw a statistic on TV today, 67% of Republicans oppose same sex marriage.

Fair enough but not all are like that. I'm just pointing out that some people claim all are "homophobic"

[Cognizant]

I'm really excited about this, actually.

[Trickythetiger]

I'm not even from the U.S. but I'm super happy they finally legalized gay marriage, nationwide.

The supreme court also said that it'll be known as marriage not "gay/same-sex marriage" so that's neat. Haha.

Cheers to all! :D

[CosmicNoodle]

I wrote a hole paragraph, read it, and decided I'd just add negativity, so I'll just say a small congrats to America, and well wishes to all the happy couples who finally have equal rights, and add a smiley :)

[Pulp501]

The South(which is majority Republican/Conservative) is in a uproar over this..Also, the most of the states that had bans on same sex marriage were of course, majority Republican/Conservative states such as Mississippi, Louisiana, Alabama.

I saw a statistic on TV today, 67% of Republicans oppose same sex marriage.

There's a difference between being opposed to gay marriage and being a homophobe. I don't think that many Republicans care most of the people who are opposed are just going on with their lives this doesn't mean anything to them.

[Hudor]

That's tremendous progress. I'm happy for the U.S. citizens.

[Exocet]

Finally!! Great news to hear and to also know one more step in the right direction! ������

Edit: The moment I heard of this I went straight to VT and posted the above in mobile. While this is amazing in every single way possible, I can't imagine how some people may be feeling after such a great news! Seriously, I have no idea how amazing of a news this can be to you guys but I'm really sharing the feeling!

Woot!!


Sorry,but i laughed at the "right direction".

[Abhorrence]

Haha I like how everyone thinks conservatives/ republicans must be opposed to gay marriage.

I'm honestly not affected by this. It's just an oh ok for me. Nothing's changing in my life.

This is literally how everyone should feel about it, if they aren't gonna be getting married to the same sex. I don't understand why there is such opposition when it doesn't affect anyone's lives in the slightest except from the people who will be engaging in this new marriage equality.

[phuckphace]

didn't read the thread, didn't need to ("ugh better late than never, welcome to the 21st century America like really" in a nutshell) but I was actually hoping this would pass soon just so I can watch all of my predictions come true. so it begins!

one wonders, with this long coveted (but largely symbolic) victory, will the LGBTSJW crew settle down into enjoying the oh-so-happy marriages that they've been cruelly deprived of by bigots for so long? will they ditch the meth, stop jerking each other off at pride parades & start being normal, productive citizens? fuck no, it's on to shrieking even more shrilly for the next social justice token du jour and being even more crass and tasteless about it. trannies are so last week, I think it's "pedos deserve rights too" now. whatever, point is that's the culture war for ya, only winning move is not to play

in the real world, our society is still in decline and is continuing to do so. Americans are still becoming more and more alienated from each other with each passing day. wealth & power consolidation continues along with overpopulation, overconsumption, and omnipresent greed. millennials will be shocked to discover just how meaningless their rights are once The Decline reaches the terminal stage and the shit flood finally reaches their front door. those crafty bigots!

cheering for this victory is like being excited that you got a brand new set of keys (rights) to an old rusted up clunker that burns oil and is going to die on you any day (our country). good for you I guess?

[Jaffe]

I am both happy and apathetic about this. (is that the right word... for just dont care?)

I am really happy that people have the right to be who they are. A lot of people want this right, even a lot of people here on VT will want it some day, and I am happy for them, that they can feel a bit more accepted. And that they can make legal what they've always lived anyway.

For myself, personally, its unimportant. It wont change who I am. I am not an activist, I don't go to gay pride, I don't wave flags. I am just me, and I don't want labels even though I have them. I want a society where gay, bi, or straight are all just mainstream things and no one gets excited about any part of it. A society where people don't "come out" because there is no reason to, where you don't hear "the first openly gay.. whatever" because it really doesn't matter and no one cares. If this is a step in that direction, then I am really happy for it. I just don't understand if it is or not.

I admit that I do not try to visualize the future. And that my views may change over time. But I only know and feel what I know and feel today. Which is, while this is a very cool thing, and I am happy for the people who wanted it, it doesnt really change much.

[Stronk Serb]

Ok. Gonna go roll another cigarette.

[Judean Zealot]

Has anybody else actually read the Supreme Court ruling? I'm gathering some very interesting impressions out of it.

[northy]

The world is one step closer to equality for all.

[Skyes]

one wonders, with this long coveted (but largely symbolic) victory, will the LGBTSJW crew settle down into enjoying the oh-so-happy marriages that they've been cruelly deprived of by bigots for so long? will they ditch the meth, stop jerking each other off at pride parades & start being normal, productive citizens? fuck no, it's on to shrieking even more shrilly for the next social justice token du jour and being even more crass and tasteless about it. trannies are so last week, I think it's "pedos deserve rights too" now. whatever, point is that's the culture war for ya, only winning move is not to play
?

are you actually comparing homosexuality to pedophilia.

[Stronger]

Honestly, if you don't care about the subject, whatever, just don't comment, what is the point? Lol.

[Dalcourt]

A huge step towards equality but still a long way to go.

[CosmicNoodle]

Sorry,but i laughed at the "right direction".

https://i.warosu.org/data/tg/img/0356/52/1414009419079.jpg

Please, explain your thinking, why is gay marriage so bad?

[Uniquemind]

are you actually comparing homosexuality to pedophilia.

That's actually very common form of counter logic people against same sex marriage use.

They argue it's now a slippery-slope and that all marriage is defined now is via mutual consent.

I think they're wrong and that minors, (unless their genius prodigies who really understand life's financial and relationship stressors) won't get marriage licenses anyway.

I think it's a red herring fallacy counter argument.

[Exocet]

image (https://i.warosu.org/data/tg/img/0356/52/1414009419079.jpg)

Please, explain your thinking, why is gay marriage so bad?

Lol,British cops look scarier than rapists,serial killers etc.
Yeah it is bad,there should be no rights for gays. In the past we would have killed all these gays.

[Hideous]

But we're still here, fuck yeah!

Love wins, amen, awomen, aeveryone!

[Danny_boi 16]

Has anybody else actually read the Supreme Court ruling? I'm gathering some very interesting impressions out of it.

I have I thought it was wonderful. If no one else has read the opinion of the court here's a link http://www.supremecourt.gov/opinions/14pdf/14-556_3204.pdf
This also has the dissents from the 4 (loser/other) Justices.

[Jaffe]

Sorry,but i laughed at the "right direction".

I did too, without thinking. But then I couldn't figure out how to make the "left direction" fit the sentence.
We could just say "The left direction is the right direction...." ??

[phuckphace]

are you actually comparing homosexuality to pedophilia.

yes, pedophilia is now a sexual orientation dontcha know (it says so in the DSM!!!)

two more decades tops. even gay marriage wasn't a serious political issue 20 years ago, how the times have changed

[DriveAlive]

yes, pedophilia is now a sexual orientation dontcha know (it says so in the DSM!!!)

two more decades tops. even gay marriage wasn't a serious political issue 20 years ago, how the times have changed

Yes, times have changed. People are winning the rights they deserve. Im sure many people said the same thing as you when interracial marriage was legalized.

[phuckphace]

That's actually very common form of counter logic people against same sex marriage use.

They argue it's now a slippery-slope and that all marriage is defined now is via mutual consent.

I think they're wrong and that minors, (unless their genius prodigies who really understand life's financial and relationship stressors) won't get marriage licenses anyway.

I think it's a red herring fallacy counter argument.

missed this. I've no interest in engaging in one of your pseudointellectual thesaurus-fights, so let's not. can you guys actually respond to posts I make instead of twisting my arguments around so you can snark at them with zingers you saw on Tumblr? not that it isn't entertaining, but sheesh

according to y'all my argument here is "goddamn it they legalized it now we're all screwed." nope, my point was that we were already screwed and a bit of symbolic legal gesturing isn't going to do anything. I don't care about gay marriage itself, I only care about it being given vastly overblown importance by shallow millennials whose society is about to go off a cliff. go back and read what I wrote about wealth & power consolidation and where that will lead us. in other words, get some perspective

and yes, the SJW-Left will do exactly as I predict as they have already done in some places like Sweden. it helps to have eyes that are willing to see, though.

[CosmicNoodle]

Lol,British cops look scarier than rapists,serial killers etc.
Yeah it is bad,there should be no rights for gays. In the past we would have killed all these gays.

You fucked up, I asked a simple question and you failed to answer it, please, explain your thinking and tell me, with sensible reasoning, why you think gay people are bad?

And why bring up British cops? What the fuck even was that?

[Exocet]

You fucked up, I asked a simple question and you failed to answer it, please, explain your thinking and tell me, with sensible reasoning, why you think gay people are bad?

Gay people are waste of the world,humanity wasn't made to a man can fuck another,there should be no rights for them,only prison.
I really hope our next president will not allow again gays to be married.
This world is so fucked up.
I saw some pics of the gay pride and it almost made me vomit,how can we teach these dirty things to our future generations ?
To Mods : If you don't accept my Pow or if it hurts people,you can ban me,i don't care,it won't change my p.o.w.

And why bring up British cops? What the fuck even was that?

Just look at the pic you posted.

[CosmicNoodle]

Gay people are waste of the world,humanity wasn't made to a man can fuck another.
I really hope our next president will not allow again gays to be married.
This world is so fucked up.
I saw some pics of the gay pride and it almost made me vomit,how can we teach these dirty things to our future generations ?
To Mods : If you don't accept my Pow or if it hurts people,you can ban me,i don't care,it won't change my p.o.w.



Just look at the pic you posted.

Again, you have given no valid or logical reason...hmmm....it's almost as if you're incapable of doing so...

Also, that picture I posted was a screen cap from the film Hot Fuzz, that's hardly an accurate representation of the British cop

[Uniquemind]

missed this. I've no interest in engaging in one of your pseudointellectual thesaurus-fights, so let's not. can you guys actually respond to posts I make instead of twisting my arguments around so you can snark at them with zingers you saw on Tumblr? not that it isn't entertaining, but sheesh

according to y'all my argument here is "goddamn it they legalized it now we're all screwed." nope, my point was that we were already screwed and a bit of symbolic legal gesturing isn't going to do anything. I don't care about gay marriage itself, I only care about it being given vastly overblown importance by shallow millennials whose society is about to go off a cliff. go back and read what I wrote about wealth & power consolidation and where that will lead us. in other words, get some perspective

and yes, the SJW-Left will do exactly as I predict as they have already done in some places like Sweden. it helps to have eyes that are willing to see, though.

It matters.

But like anybody with a brain understands the bigger issue is the country's growing wealth gap, in the context of a lame duck Congress after lame duck Congress stuck in grid-lock, and anti-science positions.

What do you want us to do about it, congress had the lowest approval ratings ever and it's not having any affect on them as a body, individuals in the house and senate are good but it's not enough.


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Also nobody is going legalize pedophilia now or even centuries from now within our country for 2 main reasons.

1. When the topic is mention everyone envisions themselves as a kid getting abused by some older freak. Legalizing that does not yield any sense of good to a person if they theoretically wanted to argue for legalizing it. Everyone's like kids are safe where they are.


2. Kids are already covered under their guardian and parents healthcare, so there is not side-reasons that legalizing pedophilia would do for anybody that makes sense. (Whereas gay marriage had all these logistical legal issues about recognition and categorization regarding inheritance rights, marriage rights, healthcare coverage plan stuff.

[Elysium]

Locked per OP request. :locked: