"I am that I am."

[Let Me Be a Pony]

I do read the Bible, although I am an atheist, for it contains really beguiling messages behind some sentences. NAOW, I did find this interesting.

Exodus 3:14 King James (As if anyone cares about this line here.)
"And God said unto Moses, I Am That I Am: and he said, Thus shalt thou say unto the children of Israel, I Am hath sent me unto you."
(Note that Moses asked for God's name, and this quote above was his reply.)

Short explanation of "I am that I am" - can be understood as many forms, for example "I am who I am", "I am that which I am", etc.
When you say "I am...(word)" it tends to motivate you, or do the opposite, depending on how you form it.
Also, it connects God to the sentence. "I am" is the name of God, according to the Bible.
Alongside that, "I am" is you.
“I am” is your center and what you experience is what you have believed to be truth and attached to it.

Yeah, when you add a comma to the "I am that, I am.", it becomes more apparent, but that's how the Biblical version is.

When you're feeling like you won't succeed at a current task, using "I am..." might help with motivation, it's better when you're out of any other options, right?
"I am going to get a shower, so I don't smell bad like a plant that hasn't been flowered for weeks... Yes, that is what I am going to do."

Got to love them Bibles, boy.

[Microcosm]

Glossary

I remember reading about this verse a while back in one of my study Bibles. I believe you will find my response to be very intriguing, as did I.

Here is the Hebrew word for "I am:" Yahweh

God's name is Yahweh. This is the amazing explanation for this that absolutely baffled me with cleverness. God tells Moses his "name" is Yahweh, but it's really not. In that time, it was believed that if you knew the name of God, then you could control him. So, God gave Moses an alias.

Now this is the cool part. The name which God gave Moses sounds the same as a human being's breath. Yah(inhale)...Weh(exhale).... Right?

The reason that God told Moses that this was his name was because God knew that every time any human being even breathed, they would be saying his name. It was like his mark on each individual, which they could never avoid even if they disbelieved. It is absolutely impossible, then, to avoid saying the name of God.

Here is how I once heard it said: Any atheist trying to disprove God or insulting God is actually must always be using God's name in order to speak the very words by which he blasphemes.

This is absolutely baffling to me. It is one of the many complexities of the Bible that is absolutely clever. I am not personally a Christian myself, but I'm glad you mentioned this because it is very interesting.

Every time you see the word Lord in capital letters in an English Bible, the Hebrew text is "Yahweh," the name of God, the breath you take.

[Let Me Be a Pony]

Glossary

I remember reading about this verse a while back in one of my study Bibles. I believe you will find my response to be very intriguing, as did I.

Here is the Hebrew word for "I am:" Yahweh

God's name is Yahweh. This is the amazing explanation for this that absolutely baffled me with cleverness. God tells Moses his "name" is Yahweh, but it's really not. In that time, it was believed that if you knew the name of God, then you could control him. So, God gave Moses an alias.

Now this is the cool part. The name which God gave Moses sounds the same as a human being's breath. Yah(inhale)...Weh(exhale).... Right?

The reason that God told Moses that this was his name was because God knew that every time any human being even breathed, they would be saying his name. It was like his mark on each individual, which they could never avoid even if they disbelieved. It is absolutely impossible, then, to avoid saying the name of God.

Here is how I once heard it said: Any atheist trying to disprove God or insulting God is actually must always be using God's name in order to speak the very words by which he blasphemes.

This is absolutely baffling to me. It is one of the many complexities of the Bible that is absolutely clever. I am not personally a Christian myself, but I'm glad you mentioned this because it is very interesting.

Every time you see the word Lord in capital letters in an English Bible, the Hebrew text is "Yahweh," the name of God, the breath you take.

The part about his name pronounced in Hebrew is news to me. Tried researching more about this a few days ago, couldn't find much really.
Yeah, there are such parts in the Bible that take your mind into the realm of wonders.

Bro, I bet that in the future someone will make a movie about this, and it will be connected with space and ancient aliens + sharks, because that's what Hollywood does nowadays.

I personally am more easily motivated now, due to knowing the definition of "I am". It just makes me think of all this when I say "I am...".

[Uniquemind]

I do read the Bible, although I am an atheist, for it contains really beguiling messages behind some sentences. NAOW, I did find this interesting.

Exodus 3:14 King James (As if anyone cares about this line here.)
"And God said unto Moses, I Am That I Am: and he said, Thus shalt thou say unto the children of Israel, I Am hath sent me unto you."
(Note that Moses asked for God's name, and this quote above was his reply.)

Short explanation of "I am that I am" - can be understood as many forms, for example "I am who I am", "I am that which I am", etc.
When you say "I am...(word)" it tends to motivate you, or do the opposite, depending on how you form it.
Also, it connects God to the sentence. "I am" is the name of God, according to the Bible.
Alongside that, "I am" is you.
“I am” is your center and what you experience is what you have believed to be truth and attached to it.

Yeah, when you add a comma to the "I am that, I am.", it becomes more apparent, but that's how the Biblical version is.

When you're feeling like you won't succeed at a current task, using "I am..." might help with motivation, it's better when you're out of any other options, right?
"I am going to get a shower, so I don't smell bad like a plant that hasn't been flowered for weeks... Yes, that is what I am going to do."

Got to love them Bibles, boy.

You're onto something and I did the same thing when I was soul searching the meaning behind God and what exactly he is.

He's something unknowable and unquantifiable.

The only hints are his titles in other chapter versus, and the structure and different "layers" of creation.

Aka: Alpha and Omega, The Beginning and The End, etc.

It also suggests that God is outside the barriers of Space-Time, while all of is are locked into it.


The concept of The Kingdom OF Heaven doesn't work otherwise.

And the term "Heaven" today means the 3rd heaven, while we use different names in modern day for the 1st and 2nd Heavens. (I.e. Stratosphere and Cosmos respectively).

Glossary

I remember reading about this verse a while back in one of my study Bibles. I believe you will find my response to be very intriguing, as did I.

Here is the Hebrew word for "I am:" Yahweh

God's name is Yahweh. This is the amazing explanation for this that absolutely baffled me with cleverness. God tells Moses his "name" is Yahweh, but it's really not. In that time, it was believed that if you knew the name of God, then you could control him. So, God gave Moses an alias.

Now this is the cool part. The name which God gave Moses sounds the same as a human being's breath. Yah(inhale)...Weh(exhale).... Right?

The reason that God told Moses that this was his name was because God knew that every time any human being even breathed, they would be saying his name. It was like his mark on each individual, which they could never avoid even if they disbelieved. It is absolutely impossible, then, to avoid saying the name of God.

Here is how I once heard it said: Any atheist trying to disprove God or insulting God is actually must always be using God's name in order to speak the very words by which he blasphemes.

This is absolutely baffling to me. It is one of the many complexities of the Bible that is absolutely clever. I am not personally a Christian myself, but I'm glad you mentioned this because it is very interesting.

Every time you see the word Lord in capital letters in an English Bible, the Hebrew text is "Yahweh," the name of God, the breath you take.

This too.


The part about his name pronounced in Hebrew is news to me. Tried researching more about this a few days ago, couldn't find much really.
Yeah, there are such parts in the Bible that take your mind into the realm of wonders.

Bro, I bet that in the future someone will make a movie about this, and it will be connected with space and ancient aliens + sharks, because that's what Hollywood does nowadays.

I personally am more easily motivated now, due to knowing the definition of "I am". It just makes me think of all this when I say "I am...".

Aliens are mentioned in the bible, but depending on which translation you are reading stuff has been lost and not all pastors or Catholic fathers do cross-examination preaching with historical context and they totally should.


There are terms called "the host of heaven" and it is mention many times in many different books that make up the Bible.


The NIV argues, that such versus are referencing constellations and star bodies.


But the King James Version, has language and history of the language's meaning to suggest intelligent life from the cosmos, as being "the host of heaven" and also links the position that aliens (little green men, and other varieties of beings) are beings involved in a spiritual war with God and may either be on God's side or on the Devil's side.

(Aka: 1/3rd of the rebelling angels fell from heaven and allied with Satan)


There are also some bible versus that accurate describe the finger and toe count along with other descriptors, of what pop culture now calls a space alien.


There is also another interpretation that Noah's bloodline being pure, has to do with demonic-alien abductions and crossbreeding GMO experiments aliens were doing on humans. (Again another commonality shared with popular culture of alien abduction stories, they go for the genitals almost every time).

Noah's bloodline was pure of this GMO tinkering, and that God wiped the Earth in the Flood and didn't kill his own creations but rather defiled creations of half-humans at best, beings invented by those rebelling against him.


Although the book of Enoch goes into more specifics and the book of Enoch is for some reason considered apocryphal, yet is mentioned by name in a book that IS not considered canon.

[DoodleSnap]

It's an interesting concept, but one I find slightly arrogant, as it implies that the concept of god and whatnot is universal and applies to all, and is somehow objectively "right". But to Christians, I suppose it technically is, so :shrug:

[Kirina]

Any atheist trying to disprove God or insulting God is actually must always be using God's name in order to speak the very words by which he blasphemes.

The book is fiction. The writer figured out a way that everyone says "God's" name (which is a made up name btw), when they breath. Cool, but whatever.

[Uniquemind]

It's an interesting concept, but one I find slightly arrogant, as it implies that the concept of god and whatnot is universal and applies to all, and is somehow objectively "right". But to Christians, I suppose it technically is, so :shrug:

This is true that's exactly what the bible argues.

That it's objectively right, there's only one way to properly interpret it, while having the option to misinterpret it with the consequence of threats by God if you misunderstand and start preaching to others the wrong stuff (aka: blind leading the blind parable).


There's also other versus where someone asked if the God of Abraham was the God of other regions and cultures other than just the Jewish people, and the answer given was that he was the God of them all, it was just a matter of getting mankind to recognize his presence.

[Microcosm]

The book is fiction. The writer figured out a way that everyone says "God's" name (which is a made up name btw), when they breath. Cool, but whatever.

This thread is not to debate whether the book is "fiction." It's stupid to even bring such a thing up. We are discussing it not for its truth but for its religious value and mythological value. It's like discussing any other literary work. This response is completely off-topic and doesn't matter. I don't know why people feel this underlying need to take the opportunity to claim that the Bible must be wrong every single time they see a thread about it.

Talk about the Bible, not its truth.

[dxcxdzv]

Don't forget that "I am that I am" is a translation.
Personaly in french it's translated by "Je suis celui qui est"/"Je suis celui qui suis" which means "I am the one who is".
Like Rainbow Dash said in hebrew "I am" means the name of God. Trough this words God reveals his name to mankind (beyond Moses) by saying that he is the "is", the nature, the world. But in hebrew this words are written (in roman alphabet) : "Ehyeh Asher Ehyeh".
Or it just means "I am God motherf*cker you don't have any right to know my name". Ahah.

[DriveAlive]

I have always liked this quote.

[Kirina]

This thread is not to debate whether the book is "fiction." It's stupid to even bring such a thing up. We are discussing it not for its truth but for its religious value and mythological value. It's like discussing any other literary work. This response is completely off-topic and doesn't matter. I don't know why people feel this underlying need to take the opportunity to claim that the Bible must be wrong every single time they see a thread about it.

Talk about the Bible, not its truth.

You said "Atheists trying to disprove God, says his name when they breath" (something like that), that's a shot at atheists.

[Microcosm]

You said "Atheists trying to disprove God, says his name when they breath" (something like that), that's a shot at atheists.

No, it isn't. I was repeating what I heard and I thought it was an interesting way to put it. From the viewpoint of a theist, it's a pretty neat statement to think about.

[Abhorrence]

Glossary

I remember reading about this verse a while back in one of my study Bibles. I believe you will find my response to be very intriguing, as did I.

Here is the Hebrew word for "I am:" Yahweh

God's name is Yahweh. This is the amazing explanation for this that absolutely baffled me with cleverness. God tells Moses his "name" is Yahweh, but it's really not. In that time, it was believed that if you knew the name of God, then you could control him. So, God gave Moses an alias.

Now this is the cool part. The name which God gave Moses sounds the same as a human being's breath. Yah(inhale)...Weh(exhale).... Right?

The reason that God told Moses that this was his name was because God knew that every time any human being even breathed, they would be saying his name. It was like his mark on each individual, which they could never avoid even if they disbelieved. It is absolutely impossible, then, to avoid saying the name of God.

Here is how I once heard it said: Any atheist trying to disprove God or insulting God is actually must always be using God's name in order to speak the very words by which he blasphemes.

This is absolutely baffling to me. It is one of the many complexities of the Bible that is absolutely clever. I am not personally a Christian myself, but I'm glad you mentioned this because it is very interesting.

Every time you see the word Lord in capital letters in an English Bible, the Hebrew text is "Yahweh," the name of God, the breath you take.
That is a pretty amazing interpretation, very interesting man.

[dxcxdzv]

The fact that we say "Yah" when inhaling and "Weh" when exhaling is highly subjective.

[Judean Zealot]

The proper vowelization of the tetragramaton (YHWH) is not actually known, having stopped being used by the beginning of the common era (and before then only used in the Temple of Jerusalem). Hebrew had no formalized vowelization system until circa the 9th century CE, when a system was developed by the Ben Asher clan of Tiberias.

The modern academic usage of 'Yahwe' comes from the Hellenic usage of the word, and hardly informs us of the true vowelization.

In addition, the name in Exodus is "I am what I am" in full, without any pause or comma in between the words, implying God's essential unknowability.

This thread appears to be a very Protestant reading of the Bible "It means what I want it to mean, and to hell with the Hebrew".