View Full Version : too old for locker room??
grihander
May 30th, 2015, 04:31 AM
Boys (or girls if you have something to say):
Have you ever experienced a dad (or it could be an older brother) who brought his little girl (or baby sister) into the guys' locker room at a fitness center or public pool/water park?
In my pool you're allowed to bring in children of the wrong sex up to the age of 12. One guy allways bring in her sister who is 11 years old and i think that she is too old and it makes me feel unconfortable. I'm 17 yo
Vermilion
May 30th, 2015, 04:44 AM
I don't have a problem with thing's like that I'm always covered on my lower half. I understand she's 11 but it would be worse if he went into the women's with her.
Thomas01
May 30th, 2015, 06:32 AM
Boys (or girls if you have something to say):
Have you ever experienced a dad (or it could be an older brother) who brought his little girl (or baby sister) into the guys' locker room at a fitness center or public pool/water park?
In my pool you're allowed to bring in children of the wrong sex up to the age of 12. One guy allways bring in her sister who is 11 years old and i think that she is too old and it makes me feel unconfortable. I'm 17 yo
First off, I wouldn't call it the "wrong sex," the "opposite sex" is more appropriate.
Secondly, to answer your question you can ask the administration to talk to him if you want, or you can talk to him yourself. It's fine to be uncomfortable with it. But nothing will be done unless you just endure it until she is 13 or ask someone
Tyler97
May 30th, 2015, 07:20 AM
Until I was 8 my mom didn't want me changing alone so I changed with her in the women's locker room. I think it's ok.
SethfromMI
May 30th, 2015, 08:23 AM
if it is a policy thing there is not much you can do. I understand why you might be uncomfortable. you could always ask those in charge to see what they would say. while I don't have a problem being seen nude, there is something about changing in front of a girl that young which would be a little weird . I'd probably wait till she was gone (or cover up till I was in my underwear)
ClaraWho
May 30th, 2015, 08:34 AM
Not every 11 year old has sexual thoughts or will stare at guys privates. It does seem a bit too old, but I suppose if she isn't acting inappropriately then just try to ignore her. Change when she's gone or with your back to her.
~ Clara
Jaffe
May 30th, 2015, 09:53 AM
Our pool/rec center allows that too. I am not sure what age the rules allow, but I often see younger girls in the changing room. I usually just ignore them and act the same way I always do. It doesnt bother me at all. But if my behavior bothers the girl's father, then that's his issue.
sunnieseason
May 30th, 2015, 02:58 PM
11 does seem way too old. I was already thinking about sex and wondering what nude boys looked like when I was 11. Also, if she's 11 she should be old enough to use the women's room on her own. I think I would freak out if my dad took me into a men's room when I was 11. I think I would have been wicked embarased. It's weird enough being in a women's room and all of a sudden seing a little boy in there. In the locker room at my mom's gym the women walk around naked in there so I imagine the men walk around naked too.
Also, it seems really unfair to the other men to bring a girl into a locker room. Here in America it's wicked easy to accuse a man of being a pervert, so I can only imagine how horifying it would be for a naked man to turn around and see an 11 year old girl looking at his penis. All it takes is one crazy dad to accuse another man of flashing his daughter or something like that....thats just so unfair.
Tap27future
May 31st, 2015, 01:03 AM
At my local pool the rule is no older than 10. Even at 8-10, the girls who do come in I have seen looking at penises. Another part is guys seeing the girls in the nude, as they shower with their dads and I could see how some guys could not handle seeing that.
Sam-9876
May 31st, 2015, 04:25 AM
It's probably pretty uncomfortable for the girl too...
LITTLEANGEL19
May 31st, 2015, 05:41 AM
Why is most posts in this thread sexualising the child in this case, she is only a child so why make a big issue out of it.
If you can't handle the situation then it's your problem NOT the child's.
The OP "grihander) even says boys and in brackets (girls if you have something to say) we don't need permission to reply and why would we NOT have something to say.
pjones
May 31st, 2015, 09:27 AM
11 does seem a little old to be in with the guys. it wouldn't bother me, but understand if others are uncomfortable.
sunnieseason
May 31st, 2015, 09:39 AM
Why is most posts in this thread sexualising the child in this case, she is only a child so why make a big issue out of it.
If you can't handle the situation then it's your problem NOT the child's.
The OP "grihander) even says boys and in brackets (girls if you have something to say) we don't need permission to reply and why would we NOT have something to say.
I don't think anyone is sexualizing the child. I was 11 not too long ago and I can tell you that I would have been incredibly uncomfortable being in a men's locker room with naked guys all around. Also, I started puberty at 11 so it would have been weird for me and for the guys to be around that kind of thing.
When you go into a men's or women's locker room you expect a certain degree of privacy...meaning that you don't expect someone of the opposite sex to be in there. I don't think it's fare to have opposite sex pre-pubescent or just starting puberty young people to be in there.
Tyler97
May 31st, 2015, 01:38 PM
I think as long as the child (boy or girl) hasn't begun puberty, there should be no problem. When I was 8, I still changed with my mother because she didn't want me to change alone. Honestly I didn't care, I did see a lot of naked girls, I was curious at the difference between boys and girls, but sexually I didn't care one bit, I was in grade 2, for most boys age 11 or 12 is when you get interested in girls.
marcusdolittle
May 31st, 2015, 01:56 PM
It's a little odd. I agree with the other posters and I think 12 is too old.
grihander
May 31st, 2015, 07:00 PM
Thanks for your answers. I see most of you think like me.
pconnor2001
May 31st, 2015, 07:03 PM
She is to old to be in men's locker room.
Daniella98
June 1st, 2015, 03:20 AM
I agree with sunnieseason.
A girl of 11 is old enough to go to the womens lockerroom by herself.
I was very interested and curious at 11 and it would definitely make men and boys uncomfortable when a 11 year old girl stares at their penises.
Bluebyrd
June 1st, 2015, 12:18 PM
I don't see why it should bother you but if it really does then you should probably tell the guy if he does it all the time
ClaraWho
June 1st, 2015, 12:32 PM
I don't see why it should bother you but if it really does then you should probably tell the guy if he does it all the time
Lol clearly a lot of people here have stated that it bothers them, and even legal issues have been mentioned which may arise.
Can you imagine telling the 11 year old girl's father that you were a) paying attention to her being in there, b) feel she is sexually mature enough to prohibit her from looking at your penis.
Totally awkward situation I'm guessing!
~ Clara
Seahawks15
June 1st, 2015, 12:56 PM
I would be pretty uncomfortable in that situation and might decide to change in a stall.
sunnieseason
June 1st, 2015, 01:55 PM
I agree with sunnieseason.
A girl of 11 is old enough to go to the womens lockerroom by herself.
I was very interested and curious at 11 and it would definitely make men and boys uncomfortable when a 11 year old girl stares at their penises.
Thanks Daniella,
I was also thinking about how it might scar the girl. While I was curious about boys at 11, I think it might have been damaging to see a whole bunch of naked men in a locker room. Our early experiences with sexuality can shape who we are later in life...now I'm not saying the situation itself is sexual, but like if it was me in her position I would be curious and I would stare at the men. That whole experience might be overwhelming.
ClaraWho
June 1st, 2015, 02:22 PM
Thanks Daniella,
I was also thinking about how it might scar the girl. While I was curious about boys at 11, I think it might have been damaging to see a whole bunch of naked men in a locker room. Our early experiences with sexuality can shape who we are later in life...now I'm not saying the situation itself is sexual, but like if it was me in her position I would be curious and I would stare at the men. That whole experience might be overwhelming.
Sorry, I've agreed with you so far but this seems a bit absurd. Plenty of girls see their dad's or younger brothers penises at this age. Nudist camps, whilst rare, do exist. I think it is inappropriate, but to say it might be 'damaging' and 'overwhelming' to see a lot of male penises at once means anyone who has watched porn is screwed up. Yes, if they were all hard and doing stuff, I'd get your point. But a bunch of old guys with flaccid, shrivelled up penises is not going to blow her mind!
It may make her more sexually curious though. And she may end up on Vteen lol.
~ Clara
sunnieseason
June 1st, 2015, 02:39 PM
Clara,
Ok, maybe it's a stretch. Oh well.
grihander
June 1st, 2015, 02:57 PM
There are no stalls so i canīt use them.
I once commented to her brother if he knows that this is a male locker room and he said me that i have not to worry because she is only a kid and he is doing what his parents told to do. I didnīt say nothing more becuse iīm afraid of been accused of being a pervert of something and the rules allow her to be there and it looks like the other men donīt mind if she is there.
Bluebyrd
June 1st, 2015, 03:34 PM
Lol clearly a lot of people here have stated that it bothers them, and even legal issues have been mentioned which may arise.
Can you imagine telling the 11 year old girl's father that you were a) paying attention to her being in there, b) feel she is sexually mature enough to prohibit her from looking at your penis.
Totally awkward situation I'm guessing!
~ Clara
The dude asked for my opinion and I gave it. All I'm saying is that I wouldn't mind being watched by someone younger than me.
ClaraWho
June 1st, 2015, 03:51 PM
Clara,
Ok, maybe it's a stretch. Oh well.
I agree on your other points though, well made too.
There are no stalls so i canīt use them.
I once commented to her brother if he knows that this is a male locker room and he said me that i have not to worry because she is only a kid and he is doing what his parents told to do. I didnīt say nothing more becuse iīm afraid of been accused of being a pervert of something and the rules allow her to be there and it looks like the other men donīt mind if she is there.
See? This.
The dude asked for my opinion and I gave it. All I'm saying is that I wouldn't mind being watched by someone younger than me.
And I questioned it lol, and what?
But even that sounds so wrong out of context, or can be misconstrued!
'I wouldn't mind an 11 year old girl watching me get naked and looking at my penis'.
You mean it with Apathy I'm guessing (as in 'who cares?') but the parent/brother/staff could take anything said the wrong way. I.e. 'I like giving a show'.
With such an emotive subject as child protection were tempers are easily lost, it really sounds like an unpleasant situation. And you don't want to NOT change and just sit there, cus then you look like you are enjoying the show. Who just sits in a changing room?!
Hm. Do your best to change behind a towel, I think that's your only option other than leaving till later.
~ Clara
Bluebyrd
June 1st, 2015, 04:43 PM
I agree on your other points though, well made too.
See? This.
And I questioned it lol, and what?
But even that sounds so wrong out of context, or can be misconstrued!
'I wouldn't mind an 11 year old girl watching me get naked and looking at my penis'.
You mean it with Apathy I'm guessing (as in 'who cares?') but the parent/brother/staff could take anything said the wrong way. I.e. 'I like giving a show'.
With such an emotive subject as child protection were tempers are easily lost, it really sounds like an unpleasant situation. And you don't want to NOT change and just sit there, cus then you look like you are enjoying the show. Who just sits in a changing room?!
Hm. Do your best to change behind a towel, I think that's your only option other than leaving till later.
~ Clara
I don't know what you're talking about now so I'm just going to leave
Daniella98
June 2nd, 2015, 01:35 AM
Thanks Daniella,
I was also thinking about how it might scar the girl. While I was curious about boys at 11, I think it might have been damaging to see a whole bunch of naked men in a locker room. Our early experiences with sexuality can shape who we are later in life...now I'm not saying the situation itself is sexual, but like if it was me in her position I would be curious and I would stare at the men. That whole experience might be overwhelming.
That too. Plus its maybe too much that many men will see her naked
grihander
June 2nd, 2015, 05:44 AM
I think no men have interest in seen her naked because her body isnīt developed despite of she showers with her swimsuit and changes under her towel. Iīm thinking to do the same but i will be the only guy doing that and the others can think that i am an strange boy. We are always 5-6 guys or less there and iīm the only young (besides her brother) and as i said it looks like the other men donīt mind if she is there.
I donīt think that she is scared. I think that sheīs enjoying and taking advantage of the situation. She sometimes stares undisguised right at my penis and some days ago i had a very embarrassing moment in the shower which made me wrote here.
Daniella98
June 2nd, 2015, 06:56 AM
I think no men have interest in seen her naked because her body isnīt developed despite of she showers with her swimsuit and changes under her towel. Iīm thinking to do the same but i will be the only guy doing that and the others can think that i am an strange boy. We are always 5-6 guys or less there and iīm the only young (besides her brother) and as i said it looks like the other men donīt mind if she is there.
I donīt think that she is scared. I think that sheīs enjoying and taking advantage of the situation. She sometimes stares undisguised right at my penis and some days ago i had a very embarrassing moment in the shower which made me wrote here.
Of course they are not drooling over an undeveloped girl. But this is about how she feels. Shes naked alone among these guys. Even if they dont stare, she must feel like shes on display anyway.
the darkness
June 2nd, 2015, 03:18 PM
I'd say she's old enough to be going in the woman's changing rooms now. A few years ago in swim club there was an 11 yr old girl who was getting quite sexual thoughts. Girls do develop that early sometimes.
grihander
June 2nd, 2015, 06:24 PM
Of course they are not drooling over an undeveloped girl. But this is about how she feels. Shes naked alone among these guys. Even if they dont stare, she must feel like shes on display anyway. I donīt think that she feels bad or embarrased because as i said she showers with her swimsuit and change her clothes under her towel and nobody cares about it. I wonder what the other men will think if i do the same.
A few years ago in swim club there was an 11 yr old girl who was getting quite sexual thoughts. How do yo know that?
Seahawks15
June 2nd, 2015, 07:56 PM
I agree with sunnieseason that it can scar them potentially but Clara also made a good point that the men were not doing sexual things and their penises were hopefully all flaccid and shirivelled up and not hard so I don't think it would scar the girl too badly.It could lead to her becoming more sexually active than normal and so on but that's not extremely likely seeing a few flaccid penises.Again,I would still be uncomfortable if a girl was in the locker room staring at my penis and others.I would definitely not be turned on and in my opinion,she shouldn't be in there in the first place.An eleven year old girl is fully capable of changing in the ladies room.
akselj
June 2nd, 2015, 09:57 PM
Americans have a big thing with nudity, but it's just body parts; who cares?
Airrd
June 2nd, 2015, 10:31 PM
When I used to go to the public pool there were guys and girls changing rooms but there would be little kids with their parents sometimes. I don't know what the policy was since it was a long time ago but the changing area had stalls that people could get changed in too but yeah I could see how that would be a bit awkward for everyone involved because of the age thing
Seahawks15
June 3rd, 2015, 12:52 AM
Yeah,I think as soon as the girl hits 8-11(typical start of puberty),they should use the ladies changing room.It would be okay for younger girls I guess.My mom took me into the ladies room until I was 7 or 8 then I was in with the men.
LITTLEANGEL19
June 3rd, 2015, 01:47 AM
Sorry, I've agreed with you so far but this seems a bit absurd. Plenty of girls see their dad's or younger brothers penises at this age. Nudist camps, whilst rare, do exist. I think it is inappropriate, but to say it might be 'damaging' and 'overwhelming' to see a lot of male penises at once means anyone who has watched porn is screwed up. Yes, if they were all hard and doing stuff, I'd get your point. But a bunch of old guys with flaccid, shrivelled up penises is not going to blow her mind!
It may make her more sexually curious though. And she may end up on Vteen lol.
~ Clara
Hiya Clara very good response I totally agree with most of what you say. What if the family were naturists? :) X
the darkness
June 3rd, 2015, 02:42 AM
I donīt think that she feels bad or embarrased because as i said she showers with her swimsuit and change her clothes under her towel and nobody cares about it. I wonder what the other men will think if i do the same.
How do yo know that?
She kept on about my hair and saying how she was getting hair
gariizad
June 3rd, 2015, 02:53 AM
It's mainly a cultural thing. I did a half-year at a school in Finland, where girls go into the male changing room for any number of reasons and nobody bats an eyelid. The school provides the towels and two girls came in every time to collect the used towels, while most of the guys were there still drying off, and naked. Nobody seemed to feel at all uncomfortable, though the girls were definitely taking a look at the bits normally covered by swimming trunks. (I'm talking about 15 year-old here, both the boys and the towel girls.)
Dyri_14
June 3rd, 2015, 04:03 AM
Americans have a big thing with nudity, but it's just body parts; who cares?
I agree with you. in Europe it is easier to accept nudity
ClaraWho
June 3rd, 2015, 05:02 AM
She kept on about my hair and saying how she was getting hair
That's not really sexual thoughts, sounds more like normal curiosity about puberty and changes to her body.
It's mainly a cultural thing. I did a half-year at a school in Finland, where girls go into the male changing room for any number of reasons and nobody bats an eyelid. The school provides the towels and two girls came in every time to collect the used towels, while most of the guys were there still drying off, and naked. Nobody seemed to feel at all uncomfortable, though the girls were definitely taking a look at the bits normally covered by swimming trunks. (I'm talking about 15 year-old here, both the boys and the towel girls.)
Yes but most of us would agree that feels wrong to us. Clearly those girls are taking advantage of the situation and the guys don't exactly have a choice. I know a lot of girls who'd love that opportunity for all the wrong reasons.
Also interesting choice of first post.
Thanks everyone for the kind words and mentions btw :whoops:.
~ Clara
Tyler97
June 3rd, 2015, 03:28 PM
I think safety is the main reason parents bring their kids with them, even if they're not the same sex; my mother took me with her until I was 8, nobody seemed to mind we quickly changed and were out in less than 5 minutes. My mother was worried that I wasn't safe to change alone, when I turned 9 she let me change alone.
Uranus
June 3rd, 2015, 03:40 PM
I'll admit, 12 is too old for a child to be brought into a locker room of the opposite sex.
I can understand 0-10 but not 12. I believe there should be maybe 2 family changing rooms so that they aren't exposed to adults. It's just creepy
kryptonite
June 3rd, 2015, 03:50 PM
A lot of places do have "family restrooms" and such where a dad can take his daughter, such as the case here. I'm guessing your pool doesn't.
Does your pool have a "comment card" thing where people can leave anonymous comments? What about a facebook page or Twitter? At least that way, you wouldn't have to talk to the manager's face...I agree though, that unless something is said, then nothing will be done.
Another idea would be for the OP to change clothes in a toilet stall.
I think the standard around my area is five or six. At 12, that's almost old enough to be on this site. That's certainly the age of puberty and developing crushes and all that.
ClaraWho
June 3rd, 2015, 04:37 PM
A lot of places do have "family restrooms" and such where a dad can take his daughter, such as the case here. I'm guessing your pool doesn't.
Does your pool have a "comment card" thing where people can leave anonymous comments? What about a facebook page or Twitter? At least that way, you wouldn't have to talk to the manager's face...I agree though, that unless something is said, then nothing will be done.
Another idea would be for the OP to change clothes in a toilet stall.
I think the standard around my area is five or six. At 12, that's almost old enough to be on this site. That's certainly the age of puberty and developing crushes and all that.
I like the whole anonymous comment cards suggestion, I used them a lot at my last gym to make complaints as they were left about the place.
I overheard a convo between a case worker and a pedo about whether he was allowed in the male changing rooms or not... It was really disturbing...
Jaffe
June 3rd, 2015, 05:45 PM
Americans have a big thing with nudity, but it's just body parts; who cares?
That was my first thought too. It didn't bother me at all. But then I realized the OP was from Spain.........
SethfromMI
June 3rd, 2015, 06:23 PM
I'll admit, 12 is too old for a child to be brought into a locker room of the opposite sex.
I can understand 0-10 but not 12. I believe there should be maybe 2 family changing rooms so that they aren't exposed to adults. It's just creepy
exactly. 12 is just 2 years away from high school
sunnieseason
June 3rd, 2015, 08:21 PM
I'd say she's old enough to be going in the woman's changing rooms now. A few years ago in swim club there was an 11 yr old girl who was getting quite sexual thoughts. Girls do develop that early sometimes.
I had sexual thoughts when I was 11, not obviously that doesn't mean that all girls have sexual thoughts at that age. If that was my daughter, I wouldn't want her to be around that many naked men. If I was a man I wouldn't want to be naked around a little girl either so it's not very nice.
Tyler97
June 4th, 2015, 07:07 AM
exactly. 12 is just 2 years away from high school
many girls and boys date at 12, but I think this was a safety issue, the parent was afraid to leave his daughter alone (I can't blame him). They probably should have had her change in the stalls or wait until most are gone.
grihander
June 4th, 2015, 01:38 PM
There arenīt stalls neither comment cards.
Some days ago i was showering with a man at my right when she came and took the shower at my left. Then i had a hard on, what is normal after doing some exercise but i have never seen a man with that there. I didnīt want that man viewing that so i turned towards her and washed the soap, took my towel and went as fast as i could. I felt so embarrased!!! She was staring at it every second with a expression of being enjoying that a lot. I donīt want to think what could happenned if other had came and had seen that. Itīs not only my lack of privacity and confort with she taking advantage of the situation wich is not fair, iīm afraid of been accused to be a pervert too or something like that.
SethfromMI
June 6th, 2015, 07:28 AM
many girls and boys date at 12, but I think this was a safety issue, the parent was afraid to leave his daughter alone (I can't blame him). They probably should have had her change in the stalls or wait until most are gone.
but again 12 is two years removed away from high school. a lot of people would not feel comfortable getting naked in front of a girl that old , nor probably her in front of the men in there
sweettayla
June 7th, 2015, 07:54 AM
I'd go ballistic if some mother bought her 11 year old son in when l'm getting changed....
Vermilion
June 7th, 2015, 08:01 AM
I'd go ballistic if some mother bought her 11 year old son in when l'm getting changed....
How old are ? And why
sweettayla
June 7th, 2015, 08:24 AM
l'm 15 and there's no way l'm getting changed in front of an 11 yo boy. l quite understand different cultures have different feelings towards nudity, we're probably more on the European side here in Australia, but l'm pretty sure that most women here would object to a child of that age being present when they're getting changed. l don't think l would have been allowed in the boys change room either when l was 11.
WintersuN
June 8th, 2015, 03:30 AM
Perhaps they should be using the disabled bathroom instead so they can change in complete privacy, but personally I would find it acceptable. It's merely a matter of making sure they're safe and secure.
ClaraWho
June 8th, 2015, 05:45 AM
Perhaps they should be using the disabled bathroom instead so they can change in complete privacy, but personally I would find it acceptable. It's merely a matter of making sure they're safe and secure.
But then how safe and secure is she if the OP is exposing himself to her with an erection and rubbing it right in front of her? :/.
That was extremely inappropriate, and you should have left immediately, not turned to face her and continue washing it.
In terms of getting an erection post workout, that seems highly unlikely as the testosterone and blood are all busy in other areas.
~ Clara
WintersuN
June 8th, 2015, 05:54 AM
But then how safe and secure is she if the OP is exposing himself to her with an erection and rubbing it right in front of her? :/.
That was extremely inappropriate, and you should have left immediately, not turned to face her and continue washing it.
In terms of getting an erection post workout, that seems highly unlikely as the testosterone and blood are all busy in other areas.
~ Clara
I'm not entirely sure what you're referring to there, did I miss reading something? But in that situation that clearly is extremely inappropriate, almost bordering on absolute perversion and paedophilia.
ClaraWho
June 8th, 2015, 06:33 AM
There arenīt stalls neither comment cards.
Some days ago i was showering with a man at my right when she came and took the shower at my left. Then i had a hard on, what is normal after doing some exercise but i have never seen a man with that there. I didnīt want that man viewing that so i turned towards her and washed the soap, took my towel and went as fast as i could. I felt so embarrased!!! She was staring at it every second with a expression of being enjoying that a lot. I donīt want to think what could happenned if other had came and had seen that. Itīs not only my lack of privacity and confort with she taking advantage of the situation wich is not fair, iīm afraid of been accused to be a pervert too or something like that.
I'm not entirely sure what you're referring to there, did I miss reading something? But in that situation that clearly is extremely inappropriate, almost bordering on absolute perversion and paedophilia.
I was referring to the OP's follow up post ^.
~ Clara
Tendencies
June 8th, 2015, 12:51 PM
Yea, I would say to keep the limit at maybe 4-5.
grihander
June 11th, 2015, 09:55 PM
But then how safe and secure is she if the OP is exposing himself to her with an erection and rubbing it right in front of her? :/.
That was extremely inappropriate, and you should have left immediately, not turned to face her and continue washing it.
In terms of getting an erection post workout, that seems highly unlikely as the testosterone and blood are all busy in other areas.
~ Clara
You have not understood me, perhaps my english is not as good as i want and so there has been an understanding. I wasnīt rubbing it!!!:eek: I only took off the soap of my hair and my body and i did it as fast as i could. I didnīt turned to face her, i turned to hide the erection to that man because i was afraid of been accused to be a pervert as you have thought. I dinīt anything bad, i was only doing what is usual in a MALE changing room and she was staring and smiling not caring if i felt bad or embarrased.
And yes, is normal to have an erection post workout. I play football (soccer) and i have seen it sometimes in my teammates but at the pool iīm the only young boy.
Georgysmith
June 20th, 2015, 07:16 AM
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SethfromMI
June 20th, 2015, 08:42 AM
12 years old is just two years away from high school. a lot of girls have already started or will start puberty by 12. that is just too old
Jaffe
June 20th, 2015, 11:01 AM
But then how safe and secure is she if the OP is exposing himself to her with an erection and rubbing it right in front of her? :/.
That was extremely inappropriate, and you should have left immediately, not turned to face her and continue washing it.
In terms of getting an erection post workout, that seems highly unlikely as the testosterone and blood are all busy in other areas.
~ Clara
I think you misunderstood what he said, or maybe I did.
Obviously, you can't have had the same experience. An erection is pretty common after physical activity, when your body starts to slow down. And they happen easily at any time, so its really likely after a game.
ClaraWho
June 20th, 2015, 11:20 AM
I think you misunderstood what he said, or maybe I did.
Obviously, you can't have had the same experience. An erection is pretty common after physical activity, when your body starts to slow down. And they happen easily at any time, so its really likely after a game.
Just because I am not a girl, doesn't mean I am prohibited from understanding biology of males. Hence female doctors :P.
Working out uses large amounts of Testosterone, and removes blood from extremities to the muscles being worked out (in the hour or so after a workout session).
Your example of a game is different, as a win boosts depleted testosterone levels etc.
Getting an erection immediately post workout for no reason is extremely unlikely without stimulus. Even in nudist groups, erections are seen as inappropriate to not cover up. He should have covered up and left immediately. Not turned and pointed his erection at her to wash the soap off it. Sounds messed up right? While he noticed her looking straight at it.
~ Clara
Kirina
June 20th, 2015, 12:58 PM
He had an erection (for whatever reason) and the girl comes in. He is afraid the man next to him is going to notice the erection, assume he is a pervert and call him out on it. Naturally his reaction is to turn away from the man. Unfortunately that means exposing himself to the girl, but he wash the soap off quickly and covers his penis immediately.
During all of this, the girl is laughing (she's 12, she's not a idiot). He has every right to be embarrassed and every right to shower without worries in the male locker room.
Jaffe
June 20th, 2015, 01:22 PM
Just because I am not a girl, doesn't mean I am prohibited from understanding biology of males. Hence female doctors :P.
Working out uses large amounts of Testosterone, and removes blood from extremities to the muscles being worked out (in the hour or so after a workout session).
Your example of a game is different, as a win boosts depleted testosterone levels etc.
Getting an erection immediately post workout for no reason is extremely unlikely without stimulus. Even in nudist groups, erections are seen as inappropriate to not cover up. He should have covered up and left immediately. Not turned and pointed his erection at her to wash the soap off it. Sounds messed up right? While he noticed her looking straight at it.
~ Clara
First, @Whitzle apparently read the post the same way I did. He was not displaying his erection to the girl, but rather hiding from the man. He was afraid of getting called out for getting hard when a girl was there. I am not shy, nudity doesnt bother me, but I still might have reacted the same way, because you don't know how people are going to think or if they will try to cause you trouble.
Second, check your medical books, and see if swimming and sports practice really cause fewer erections. From being in the locker rooms, I'd say there probably is some correlation. Even swimming practice does it to me. Nudity does not really do it to me. But then, you can't predict when a boner will show up, or why, or even if there is some cause. I wasn't talking about a "win", just a practice. For a lot of us, just the physical exertion of exercise creates an emotional "high", perhaps not as good as a win, but still a real high.
Third, please don't generalize. My doctor (yes, a female) has admitted to my face that not she, nor anyone probably, really understands what happens inside our bodies with hormones and chemicals and emotions, and the various mixes of them. Yes, they have a lot of knowledge about how hormones affect our nerves and muscles. But they don't know everything yet, maybe never will. Like my mom, my doctor agrees that no two people are ever the same, and there are no "rules" that our bodies follow.
Tyler97
June 20th, 2015, 06:58 PM
Just because I am not a girl, doesn't mean I am prohibited from understanding biology of males. Hence female doctors :P.
Working out uses large amounts of Testosterone, and removes blood from extremities to the muscles being worked out (in the hour or so after a workout session).
Your example of a game is different, as a win boosts depleted testosterone levels etc.
Getting an erection immediately post workout for no reason is extremely unlikely without stimulus. Even in nudist groups, erections are seen as inappropriate to not cover up. He should have covered up and left immediately. Not turned and pointed his erection at her to wash the soap off it. Sounds messed up right? While he noticed her looking straight at it.
~ Clara
Boys can get random erections without anything sexual happening, I've had many doing and thinking of nothing, just because you see a guy with an erection doesn't mean he's sexually excited, it could be, but many times isn't.
Daily
June 20th, 2015, 11:23 PM
What if there was an ephebophile in the changing room?
Felicia_
June 24th, 2015, 11:54 AM
Just tell the dad or brother that all the other guys were saying how hot she was after he left with her and how much they liked looking - he won't take her in again
Daily
June 24th, 2015, 12:04 PM
Just tell the dad or brother that all the other guys were saying how hot she was after he left with her and how much they liked looking - he won't take her in again
This. It might get them in trouble, but at least it'll save your privacy.
Emerald Dream
June 24th, 2015, 12:13 PM
Just a reminder that explicit storytelling is not allowed. Let's keep it appropriate, please. :)
Cangirl
June 25th, 2015, 02:28 PM
i think it sorta depends on where they are maybe. In Europe it might not be as big of a deal but in North America it's probably more a big deal. Maybe the pool as a family change area or maybe the 11 year old could change with the dad waiting out side the girls change room and then have her go sit by the lifeguard while he quickly changes.
I know when I was 11 I was very interested in boys and other girls bodies but I would be really embarrassed being in the mens change room then. And I think it might be kinda awkward for some men to see her in there. At home is different.
LITTLEANGEL19
June 28th, 2015, 03:03 AM
i think it sorta depends on where they are maybe. In Europe it might not be as big of a deal but in North America it's probably more a big deal. Maybe the pool as a family change area or maybe the 11 year old could change with the dad waiting out side the girls change room and then have her go sit by the lifeguard while he quickly changes.
I know when I was 11 I was very interested in boys and other girls bodies but I would be really embarrassed being in the mens change room then. And I think it might be kinda awkward for some men to see her in there. At home is different.
In Germany the sauna changing room usually is communal and you go naked in the sauna. :)
grihander
June 28th, 2015, 04:40 AM
In Germany the sauna changing room usually is communal and you go naked in the sauna. :)
Well, iīve never been in Germany, but there is not a big deal for me to go naked in front of others. The problem here is the age of that girl (11) and her behavior, which is a potential problem. At first i didnīt know if she was only curious as a kid or if she was taking advantage of the situation, now i'm totally sure that she is taking advantage and iīm worried and i donīt like it.
In this forum there is a girl that have accused me to be a perv and what if a man of my pool thinks like this? i really think that the perv is she but i'm the only who can get in trouble :confused:
LITTLEANGEL19
June 28th, 2015, 05:32 AM
Well, iīve never been in Germany, but there is not a big deal for me to go naked in front of others. The problem here is the age of that girl (11) and her behavior, which is a potential problem. At first i didnīt know if she was only curious as a kid or if she was taking advantage of the situation, now i'm totally sure that she is taking advantage and iīm worried and i donīt like it.
In this forum there is a girl that have accused me to be a perv and what if a man of my pool thinks like this? i really think that the perv is she but i'm the only who can get in trouble :confused:
At 11yo most girls and boys are curious of the opposite see, but of course on Internet forums like VT and others people will read other stuff into it just to sensationlise it.
SethfromMI
June 28th, 2015, 07:41 AM
At 11yo most girls and boys are curious of the opposite see, but of course on Internet forums like VT and others people will read other stuff into it just to sensationlise it.
so your fine with an 11 year old boy in the womens locker room?
Jaffe
June 28th, 2015, 08:15 AM
In Germany the sauna changing room usually is communal and you go naked in the sauna. :)
I've used communal locker rooms as well, and I was comfortable. It's a mindset, nothing more. But that is a completely different situation than this. The OP thought he was in a Men's changing area, not a communal one, and the attitude in such cases is much different. Not only the OPs attitude, but that of other men in the room, and that of the girl.
LITTLEANGEL19
June 28th, 2015, 09:02 AM
so your fine with an 11 year old boy in the womens locker room?
Like I said the sauna locker room at a public swimming pool is unisex and most use the sauna area naked and that applies to all ages. And am sure it happens I other European countries, except the UK. Attitudes to nudity are a lot different in Europe than USA, even from person to person.
I've used communal locker rooms as well, and I was comfortable. It's a mindset, nothing more. But that is a completely different situation than this. The OP thought he was in a Men's changing area, not a communal one, and the attitude in such cases is much different. Not only the OPs attitude, but that of other men in the room, and that of the girl.
Thanks "Jaffed" for your reply.
Jaffe
June 28th, 2015, 09:35 AM
Like I said the sauna locker room at a public swimming pool is unisex and most use the sauna area naked and that applies to all ages. And am sure it happens I other European countries, except the UK. Attitudes to nudity are a lot different in Europe than USA, even from person to person.
It is true that attitudes about nudity are more open in most of Europe than in the US. But "Europe" is not a country. It is a continent, with lots of countries, and lots of attitudes. Of the countries I have been in, I'd say Spain (the country of the OP) is probably more conservative than most.
SethfromMI
June 28th, 2015, 11:16 AM
Like I said the sauna locker room at a public swimming pool is unisex and most use the sauna area naked and that applies to all ages. And am sure it happens I other European countries, except the UK. Attitudes to nudity are a lot different in Europe than USA, even from person to person.
Thanks "Jaffed" for your reply.
and that's fine, I don't mind being seen in underwear or naked, but I would argue a 11-12 year old girl should not be in a locker room full of men. at that age, they are old enough to go into their own. I realize some countries would not bat an eye to that, but if I am not mistaken, the OP is in America
Jaffe
June 28th, 2015, 07:16 PM
and that's fine, I don't mind being seen in underwear or naked, but I would argue a 11-12 year old girl should not be in a locker room full of men. at that age, they are old enough to go into their own. I realize some countries would not bat an eye to that, but if I am not mistaken, the OP is in America
Actually, he is in Spain. But as far as a situation like this, that's pretty much equivalent to the USA. They are pretty conservative as far as this stuff goes.
SethfromMI
June 28th, 2015, 08:06 PM
Actually, he is in Spain. But as far as a situation like this, that's pretty much equivalent to the USA. They are pretty conservative as far as this stuff goes.
ah well that's good to know though, thanks for the clarification
Manboy321
July 12th, 2015, 12:46 AM
I'd be a little uncomfortable but I think I could start to ignore it
shamrockgirl02
August 1st, 2015, 04:52 PM
I think 10 should be the cut off age. I also think the parent should try to take the child to an isolated corner or toilet stall as a common courtesy, as I've had a couple awkward experiences where a little boy has tried to check out my body to see what the difference is.
lliam
August 1st, 2015, 08:14 PM
Here a lot talk about the influence of naked men can have on that poor little 11 year old girl. Or how uncomfortable some men may feel.
I noticed that some items were not considered.
1. I assume that the girl has seen her father often naked. Therefore, the sight of other naked men should not impress especially that girl.
2. I'm rather assume that younger men and boys during puberty feel somewhat disturbed by the presence of girls than do adult men. At least grown men should be confident enough to ignore the girl.
3. It's the father's responsibility to decide, whether to sent his daughter in the locker room of the women or to take her with him in the locker room of the men. And I'm assuming that he doesn't do so against the wishes of his daughter.
4. If someone has problems with the presence of the girl, he can speak to the father or get dressed covered or so.
5. And when I think of all those threads where in many posts guys refer their thoughts about been naked in front of classmates of same age in locker rooms, I think the real prob here is that most of the user in here haven't passed puberty yet. Therfore they kinda sexualize unconsciously the topic of this thread at least.
I will not go into those moral and legal points, because they were mentioned several times in other posts already.
The1uwant
October 8th, 2016, 06:24 PM
My dad brought me in the mens room when I was growing up. None of the men seemed to mind me being there. Infact a few went out of their way to show themselves to me
Claire Asteroid
October 8th, 2016, 06:43 PM
Sometimes if it was my dad taking me swimming he took me into the mens changing rooms which were communal, until I was 9. after that I had to go and change on my own. I don't think most of the men minded me there and I didn't really mind getting naked in front of them, it was just something that happened.
pconnor2001
October 8th, 2016, 07:29 PM
11 is way too old.
Living For Love
October 9th, 2016, 02:38 AM
Please don't bump old threads. :locked:
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