how do you kiss a girl ? or make out

[austin335]

I just got a girlfriend and I never kissed or made out , and she's expecting me to make the first move but idk how ..

[Living For Love]

Puberty For Boys :arrow2: Relationships and Dating.

[Kirina]

Expecting you to make the first move?

That's a unhealthy and old fashioned mindset. She probably is the type of person that thinks men can't be abused. You will have to be the provider, do the hard work etc.

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I urge you to stay away.

[Vocabulous]

Expecting you to make the first move?

That's a unhealthy and old fashioned mindset. She probably is the type of person that thinks men can't be abused. You will have to be the provider, do the hard work etc.

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I urge you to stay away.

Well that was... Negative

[MarsReid]

Well that was... Negative
indeed, hmmmmmm.... well my first kiss was just a... goodbye after hanging out kiss i guess, it was just a natural urge, if you want it to happen make it happen, you could just straight up ask "hey lets kiss, i havnt done this before but yup, lets try it out?" etc and so on blah blah enjoy your life :)

[Melodic]

You can find many tips on the internet, but honestly the best kisses are the ones unplanned. Wait for the right moment and kiss her.

[Kirina]

Well that was... Negative
It is positive. His girlfriend is fixed on gender roles, that is bad. Leaving is positive. He can find someone else, someone that doesn't have such a narrow way of thinking.

As for the advice he asks for tho, rather than need.

When YOU, feel the moment is right for a kiss. Than do it, just do it.
It's her who expects you to make the move, she has handed the control to you so you decide.

[Vocabulous]

It is positive. His girlfriend is fixed on gender roles, that is bad. Leaving is positive. He can find someone else, someone that doesn't have such a narrow way of thinking.

As for the advice he asks for tho, rather than need.

When YOU, feel the moment is right for a kiss. Than do it, just do it.
It's her who expects you to make the move, she has handed the control to you so you decide.
You are telling someone to leave a relationship that he has no complaints about, other than the kissing thing, just because his girlfriend is "fixed on gender roles"? Sure, if his girlfriend expected him to support her financially or something like that it would be bad, but expecting him to make the first move? Like seriously? Id say it would be narrow minded to leave because she doesn't see something the same as you. It's not a big deal. Not something worth ending a relationship over. This website sometimes, I swear to god

[matt_tgr]

You are telling someone to leave a relationship that he has no complaints about, other than the kissing thing, just because his girlfriend is "fixed on gender roles"? Sure, if his girlfriend expected him to support her financially or something like that it would be bad, but expecting him to make the first move? Like seriously? This website sometimes, I swear to god

What do you expect? He's (or she. Don't know what that life raft symbol means haha) from Norway. They're all for equal rights over there :D

[Vocabulous]

What do you expect? He's (or she. Don't know what that life raft symbol means haha) from Norway. They're all for equal rights over there :D

I don't know about Norway, but it does stink of tumblr.

[Body odah Man]

I just got a girlfriend and I never kissed or made out , and she's expecting me to make the first move but idk how ..

You find a romantic scene. You get into the mood, pucker your lips and kiss. GL

[matt_tgr]

I don't know about Norway, but it does stink of tumblr.

Good one haha

[Microcosm]

It is positive. His girlfriend is fixed on gender roles, that is bad. Leaving is positive. He can find someone else, someone that doesn't have such a narrow way of thinking.

As for the advice he asks for tho, rather than need.

When YOU, feel the moment is right for a kiss. Than do it, just do it.
It's her who expects you to make the move, she has handed the control to you so you decide.

This is brainwashed thinking. Gender roles aren't bad. Society makes people think they're bad and you're just hopping on the train. I won't let you ruin someone's relationship with stupid advice like that. No offense to you personally, but get off your social justice high horse.

In response to the OP, you just do it when the time is right. You could ease her into it with a more casual kiss. You could take her out on a date and do it there, as well. There are many options, here.

[Uniquemind]

Try not to overthink it; kissing is very instinctive and it taps into a type of hunger that is similar to how, if you can remember how you thought and felt then, as a baby instinctively knew how to suckle a bottle or their mom's breast to feed yourself.

Don't overthink kissing, just go with the motion and the physical sensations of what you think it's too much and what you think is right, and mirror or copy what she's doing to you.
Be aware that French kissing might happen, and that is where another's tongue enters their or your mouth in some degree. (Although this is going out of fashion).

[WintersuN]

Genuinely, it's as simple as placing your lips on the other's. As mentioned before, it's an instinctive movement. No fancy techniques or manoeuvres, just make sure you're lips are fairly moist.

[Kirina]

This is brainwashed thinking. Gender roles aren't bad. Society makes people think they're bad and you're just hopping on the train. I won't let you ruin someone's relationship with stupid advice like that. No offense to you personally, but get off your social justice high horse.

I've always been surrounded by people that think it's good, there has been no train to hop on. I formed this opinion on my own (woo congratulations!), without any influence by others.
While my advice wasn't what he asked for, I had to give it because I genuinely believe his girlfriend has a bad mindset. I can't say my opinion is the most right, I could be wrong. Maybe you are right. It should be okay to give other advices.

If your going to restate how stupid and wrong my opinions are, I will gladly get off the high horse. Because it would clearly belong to you.

How exactly is it bad to expect someone to make the first move?
Expectations can create pressure. It varies how individuals handle it, most of the time it's not a big deal, but to some it could be really stressful.

If he think the moment is right than he kiss her and if she think the moment is right, she kiss him. Simple. This girl however, even when she thinks the moment is right for a kiss. She will think to herself "Nah, he should do it first!:D That's his job". Your not going to agree at all, that it is a silly/childish kind of attitude? If the boy were to have anxieties, really shy, handles social situations really poorly. Please realize that for such a person it would feel "heavy" to be expected to make the first move. This is why for either gender it would be best to not expect anything and just go for it when they want to.

I think this is similar to how people expect someone to send the first message. I used to chat with someone on skype, everyday. Who sent the first message was really varied but eventually it stopped, so we didn't talk for a few months, while I'm sure there were things we could talk about. Suddenly she send me a message opening with "You never msg me anymore" and I replied "It's you who never message me". We didn't talk for months due to a dumb and silly attitude.

Is it the discussion from this thread that made you make the "Gender roles" thread in ROTW, that now seems to be deleted? c':

[sweettayla]

Just do what comes naturally, remember she's probably just as nervous as you , but you'll figure it out pretty quickly.

[Microcosm]

I've always been surrounded by people that think it's good, there has been no train to hop on. I formed this opinion on my own (woo congratulations!), without any influence by others.
While my advice wasn't what he asked for, I had to give it because I genuinely believe his girlfriend has a bad mindset. I can't say my opinion is the most right, I could be wrong. Maybe you are right. It should be okay to give other advices.

If your going to restate how stupid and wrong my opinions are, I will gladly get off the high horse. Because it would clearly belong to you.

How exactly is it bad to expect someone to make the first move?
Expectations can create pressure. It varies how individuals handle it, most of the time it's not a big deal, but to some it could be really stressful.

If he think the moment is right than he kiss her and if she think the moment is right, she kiss him. Simple. This girl however, even when she thinks the moment is right for a kiss. She will think to herself "Nah, he should do it first!:D That's his job". Your not going to agree at all, that it is a silly/childish kind of attitude? If the boy were to have anxieties, really shy, handles social situations really poorly. Please realize that for such a person it would feel "heavy" to be expected to make the first move. This is why for either gender it would be best to not expect anything and just go for it when they want to.

I think this is similar to how people expect someone to send the first message. I used to chat with someone on skype, everyday. Who sent the first message was really varied but eventually it stopped, so we didn't talk for a few months, while I'm sure there were things we could talk about. Suddenly she send me a message opening with "You never msg me anymore" and I replied "It's you who never message me". We didn't talk for months due to a dumb and silly attitude.

Is it the discussion from this thread that made you make the "Gender roles" thread in ROTW, that now seems to be deleted? c':

Yes, it originally influenced me to make that post. The reason I deleted it was because there wasn't really any debate to be had. It was just ranting, really.

Anywho, that post I made was pretty rude. Sorry about that. I just feel really strongly about social justice nazis(not saying you are one). Typically, though, the guy is supposed to make the first move. The girl can make the first move, I guess, but it might seem weird. Thus, natural gender roles.

[Kirina]

Typically, though, the guy is supposed to make the first move. The girl can make the first move, I guess, but it might seem weird. Thus, natural gender roles.

Don't worry, I didn't take your post negatively. If everyone had the same opinion of something and a different opinion to this didn't exist. How can we know that this opinion is the most right, if it is never challenged? Imagine the entire world believe in Christianity and scientific inventions being looked at as sorcery thus be illegal. Would humanity really make any progress this way?

It is how it might seem weird if the girl makes the first move, that I don't understand. This is a social cue and a lot of them don't make sense to me and doesn't seem to be based on anything.

My brother was getting a suit and he liked one that was grey. The man in the store that helped him, said "Remember that you can't use this in funerals. A black dress can go with everything".

When I heard that, it felt like my brain exploded. I couldn't comprehend it. I asked dad about it and he said it was "Etiquette". Unfortunately he couldn't explain why it had to be that way other than "It's just how it is". To this day, I still don't understand.

[Uniquemind]

Don't worry, I didn't take your post negatively. If everyone had the same opinion of something and a different opinion to this didn't exist. How can we know that this opinion is the most right, if it is never challenged? Imagine the entire world believe in Christianity and scientific inventions being looked at as sorcery thus be illegal. Would humanity really make any progress this way?

It is how it might seem weird if the girl makes the first move, that I don't understand. This is a social cue and a lot of them don't make sense to me and doesn't seem to be based on anything.

My brother was getting a suit and he liked one that was grey. The man in the store that helped him, said "Remember that you can't use this in funerals. A black dress can go with everything".

When I heard that, it felt like my brain exploded. I couldn't comprehend it. I asked dad about it and he said it was "Etiquette". Unfortunately he couldn't explain why it had to be that way other than "It's just how it is". To this day, I still don't understand.

There's a lot of abstract meaning and symbolism in life that's why. Because people have a hard time going beyond the narrow minded. They rely on culture, and the 5 (sometimes 6) senses to make sense of the world via communication.


Showing black at funerals and having a guy make the first move is etiquette, because of the cultural understanding of what black represents.

[DoodleSnap]

I've always been surrounded by people that think it's good, there has been no train to hop on. I formed this opinion on my own (woo congratulations!), without any influence by others.
While my advice wasn't what he asked for, I had to give it because I genuinely believe his girlfriend has a bad mindset. I can't say my opinion is the most right, I could be wrong. Maybe you are right. It should be okay to give other advices.

If your going to restate how stupid and wrong my opinions are, I will gladly get off the high horse. Because it would clearly belong to you.

How exactly is it bad to expect someone to make the first move?
Expectations can create pressure. It varies how individuals handle it, most of the time it's not a big deal, but to some it could be really stressful.

If he think the moment is right than he kiss her and if she think the moment is right, she kiss him. Simple. This girl however, even when she thinks the moment is right for a kiss. She will think to herself "Nah, he should do it first!:D That's his job". Your not going to agree at all, that it is a silly/childish kind of attitude? If the boy were to have anxieties, really shy, handles social situations really poorly. Please realize that for such a person it would feel "heavy" to be expected to make the first move. This is why for either gender it would be best to not expect anything and just go for it when they want to.

I think this is similar to how people expect someone to send the first message. I used to chat with someone on skype, everyday. Who sent the first message was really varied but eventually it stopped, so we didn't talk for a few months, while I'm sure there were things we could talk about. Suddenly she send me a message opening with "You never msg me anymore" and I replied "It's you who never message me". We didn't talk for months due to a dumb and silly attitude.

Is it the discussion from this thread that made you make the "Gender roles" thread in ROTW, that now seems to be deleted? c':
I think you are misunderstanding the OP.
I read it as someone who is in a relationship, and his girlfriend is simply wanting him to be the one who officially initiates romantic contact. Sure, pressuring gender roles can sometimes be damaging, but I think that you have jumped to a conclusion that is not apparent to myself, or anyone else on this thread. Unless the OP has explicitly said that they are uncomfortable with the way in which his partner is using gender roles to pressure them, then I don't think it is fair to assume anything.
As for the OP, just go with the flow. When it feels right, just move in. Lean in, look into her eyes, and do what feels natural. It is a magical moment, so don't worry about it or analyse it beforehand. Do what feels right to you.
Good luck :)

[Cronor]

Come close to her mouth (With your mouth, obviously) and things will go along, you'll realize what to do when you apply pressure to her lips (... with your lips, duh ).

[Manboy321]

Come close to her mouth (With your mouth, obviously) and things will go along, you'll realize what to do when you apply pressure to her lips (... with your lips, duh ).
He knows what he is talking about.

[Yolodolo]

Just let it happen naturally

[Unlucky]

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[Body odah Man]

I just got a girlfriend and I never kissed or made out , and she's expecting me to make the first move but idk how ..

Just wait for a romantic moment. Lean in with your lips puckered up. One of two things should then happen:
a. you kiss
b. You get punched. (most likely it will be a)

[Tesserax]

I haven't kissed either, but I think the best way is to wait for the moment you really want to, and catch her by surprise. Don't think about it, just let instinct guide you, and JUST DO IT

[KingExplosionMurder]

I just got a girlfriend and I never kissed or made out , and she's expecting me to make the first move but idk how ..

Hmm you could just ask her out on a nice evening then have a conversation, dinner, talk more and then go for the kiss fast lol might be a little too much but I say just go for it when you 2 are alone :)