Should Josh Duggar be held accountable for his "crime?"

[Ridonks_CB]

The reason I put crime in quotations is because apparently some people believe telling God sorry is all you need to do when you do something wrong and you are forgiven.
I guess that already gives a light to what my stance is.

If you do not know what the story is about --> http://www.usatoday.com/story/life/tv/2015/05/21/duggars-reeling-from-joshs-sex-abuse-scandal/27741883/

Do you support or not support Duggar and why? What are your overall thoughts?

What I find most terrifying about this issue is that - here we have a religious family that homeschool their children, no TV, girls are dressed to cover their cleavage, etc...It is a secular home and though yes they are on TV themselves they are pretty much hidden from sexual media, yet sexual abuse still happened in their household. People need tounderstand that sexual abuse can happen ANYWHERE and I think this really needs to be understood from this story.

[Microcosm]

I think it would be kind of pointless to legally punish or imprison him for a crime he did so long ago and obviously seems to have learned his lesson from.

[Ridonks_CB]

I think it would be kind of pointless to legally punish or imprison him for a crime he did so long ago and obviously seems to have learned his lesson from.

Yes, I agree with you on that, though I don't think the message they are putting out for this is correct. Just because he asked God for forgiveness is not a good enough excuse to diminish the feelings the girls had. Literally no one has asked anything about them (as far as I've seen); you can say God forgave him but we also need to know if the victims did. Imprisoning him won't do much but I don't think he deserves to have his show back at the very least.

[Microcosm]

Yes, I agree with you on that, though I don't think the message they are putting out for this is correct. Just because he asked God for forgiveness is not a good enough excuse to diminish the feelings the girls had. Literally no one has asked anything about them (as far as I've seen); you can say God forgave him but we also need to know if the victims did. Imprisoning him won't do much but I don't think he deserves to have his show back at the very least.

I think it would be wise for him to apologize formally to the victims and it should be up to them to decide whether they forgive him or not. They're the only ones who can really know what it felt like and feel the impact of it.

[Horatio Nelson]

What he did was disgusting and wrong. Not to mention some of the molested were his own sisters. The family may be trying to promote something good, but they way they go about it is wrong. Like only holding hands while dating, the fuck? And no kissing until your wedding day? And you wonder why the children are having kids 9 months after their wedding day. But I digress.

I don't know what legal action should be taken, but they were right to remove the show from TV. The Duggars aren't as perfect as they're cracked up to be.

[Babs]

Fuck yes.
He's a child molester, and now he has his own children. He's a child predator, and that is disgusting and wrong. Sadly, he probably will be let off scot free.

[xXl0sth0peXx]

Honestly, I'm torn on the issue. On on hand, what he did was so so so wrong, and he should absolutely 1000% be held accountable and face whatever punishments others would face. On the other hand, I believe in second chances. This was over a decade ago, and people change. There's no reason why someone shouldn't be able to live a life, and if he found someone willing to put his past behind and love him, all the power too him. We all deserve love. What he did was so god awful, and it sickens me. But that doesn't mean he's undeserving of living his live. Do I think he should pay? Yes, but nothing more or less than someone else in his shoes would pay. He's human, just like you and me. This incident had nothing to do with TVs and cameras, it happened 2 years before any filming. Maybe some of their views are a direct result of this- we don't know, we probably won't. Let him live his life.

[thatcountrykid]

He's a rapist.ock him up

[Emerald Dream]

The article itself contains the following quotes -

"When Josh was a young teenager, he made some very bad mistakes"

"Josh believes that the situation will make it difficult for him to be effective in his current work"

That's pretty disgusting, and anyone who would say those things is only excusing a predator...no matter how long ago it was.

I know that if I was close to one of the victims, I would want the book thrown at him.

[Ridonks_CB]

The article itself contains the following quotes -

"When Josh was a young teenager, he made some very bad mistakes"

"Josh believes that the situation will make it difficult for him to be effective in his current work"

That's pretty disgusting, and anyone who would say those things is only excusing a predator...no matter how long ago it was.

I know that if I was close to one of the victims, I would want the book thrown at him.

What's bothering me a lot about this is how Josh is said to have "made a mistake" yet little 12 year old Tamir Rice "should have known better." The same white pieces of trash who label police brutality victims as thugs are kissing Josh's ass so they can spread homophobic speech together.

[Sugaree]

The reason I put crime in quotations is because apparently some people believe telling God sorry is all you need to do when you do something wrong and you are forgiven.
I guess that already gives a light to what my stance is.

If you do not know what the story is about --> http://www.usatoday.com/story/life/tv/2015/05/21/duggars-reeling-from-joshs-sex-abuse-scandal/27741883/

Do you support or not support Duggar and why? What are your overall thoughts?

What I find most terrifying about this issue is that - here we have a religious family that homeschool their children, no TV, girls are dressed to cover their cleavage, etc...It is a secular home and though yes they are on TV themselves they are pretty much hidden from sexual media, yet sexual abuse still happened in their household. People need tounderstand that sexual abuse can happen ANYWHERE and I think this really needs to be understood from this story.

Really, there's nothing that can be done. Statue of limitations is all that needs to be brought up and the case gets thrown out of court. Whether or not these allegations are true, I'm not sure, but Duggar admitting to it obviously throws any questioning of the allegations out of the window. Really, I don't think this guy is worth defending. He admits he did it, fine. But hiding behind his God is just cowardly, and that's an insult to actual cowards.

Also, don't generalize the family. This is the action of ONE individual, not the entire clan. Yes, they're a religious family that homeschool their kids and raise them the way they wish to raise children. What's wrong with that? Does that mean the family gave Josh permission to molest these girls? No. So bringing up their upbringing has nothing to do with the issue. The issue is that we need to be more forthcoming with people and tell them to come forward and not be afraid to talk about these things. If you're abused, speak up; because the sooner you do, the sooner something can be done.

[jssixna]

I think it was wrong for the father to not tell authorities quickly about it though. Yes, what he did 12 years ago was wrong, but people can change. He was 14. Now he's a husband and a father. Everybody makes mistakes, nobody is perfect.

[fairmaiden]

I can't help but think that his and his siblings' sheltered upbringings could be the root cause of all of this mess. I think that the Duggars are way too strict with their kids, thus causing disgusting incidents like this. It appears that the Duggar's priorites are mainly about keeping their kids ''safe'' during relationships rather than stopping their kids from being completely and utterly inappropriate towards other people.

If he has not already been held to full account by the law, then he definitely should be. He made no ''mistake'' by abusing 5 girls at the age of 15. He should have definitely known better; a child from the age of even 6 should know that it's wrong to touch someone when they don't want to be touched.

I hope by now that he knows what he did was absolutely unacceptable and I hope he never ever does it again. He should learn from his mistakes and try to become a better person.

[phuckphace]

afaik adults typically aren't prosecuted for crimes committed while they were minors, due to statues of limitations and whatever else. the law seems to consider minor-on-minor crimes way less serious

but maligning the whole family though? I don't see why we couldn't just can the one that did it and leave the rest alone. although...the fact that Dad waited a year to call in the heat does raise an eyebrow. I'm gonna just say the enormous size of the family is probably to blame - there's only so much time in one day that you as a parent can split between 19 goddamn kids and I guarantee Mr and Mrs Duggar spend all their time wrangling the youngest ones while the older ones are out getting laid and hailing Satan

anyway yeah put him away just to be on the safe side

[Sugaree]

I can't help but think that his and his siblings' sheltered upbringings could be the root cause of all of this mess. I think that the Duggars are way too strict with their kids, thus causing disgusting incidents like this. It appears that the Duggar's priorites are mainly about keeping their kids ''safe'' during relationships rather than stopping their kids from being completely and utterly inappropriate towards other people.

If he has not already been held to full account by the law, then he definitely should be. He made no ''mistake'' by abusing 5 girls at the age of 15. He should have definitely known better; a child from the age of even 6 should know that it's wrong to touch someone when they don't want to be touched.

I hope by now that he knows what he did was absolutely unacceptable and I hope he never ever does it again. He should learn from his mistakes and try to become a better person.

Why do you care how the Duggars raise their children? If they want to raise their kids like that, let them. Is it right? In parenting, there is no real consensus on what the right way to parent is. It does seem very overprotective of them to restrict so much from their kids, because they'll have to be exposed to a lot of it one day and that will be a very big reality check for them.

Again, any sensible person will look at the law and read the statue of limitations. This incident was well over a decade ago on top of being a crime where things like DNA evidence are long gone. All that we have to go on is people saying he did X, Y, Z. He admits he did something wrong, like everyone at the age of 14 or 15. Admit it, you've done some pretty stupid shit or something that's hurt someone, either physically, mentally, or emotionally, and were simply taken in by the heat of the moment. We all have those times, so it's useless to say that he needs to be punished for something that, legally, is not defensible.

[Ridonks_CB]

Really, there's nothing that can be done. Statue of limitations is all that needs to be brought up and the case gets thrown out of court. Whether or not these allegations are true, I'm not sure, but Duggar admitting to it obviously throws any questioning of the allegations out of the window. Really, I don't think this guy is worth defending. He admits he did it, fine. But hiding behind his God is just cowardly, and that's an insult to actual cowards.

Also, don't generalize the family. This is the action of ONE individual, not the entire clan. Yes, they're a religious family that homeschool their kids and raise them the way they wish to raise children. What's wrong with that? Does that mean the family gave Josh permission to molest these girls? No. So bringing up their upbringing has nothing to do with the issue. The issue is that we need to be more forthcoming with people and tell them to come forward and not be afraid to talk about these things. If you're abused, speak up; because the sooner you do, the sooner something can be done.

I didn't mean to generalize the entire family and I apologize if it came off as such. What I meant is that the family tried their best to abstain from actions such as these, yet it still happened. It's not necessarily that their upbringing was wrong, but it should be made aware that sometimes, unfortunately, we just can't be careful enough.

[fairmaiden]

Why do you care how the Duggars raise their children? If they want to raise their kids like that, let them. Is it right? In parenting, there is no real consensus on what the right way to parent is. It does seem very overprotective of them to restrict so much from their kids, because they'll have to be exposed to a lot of it one day and that will be a very big reality check for them.

Again, any sensible person will look at the law and read the statue of limitations. This incident was well over a decade ago on top of being a crime where things like DNA evidence are long gone. All that we have to go on is people saying he did X, Y, Z. He admits he did something wrong, like everyone at the age of 14 or 15. Admit it, you've done some pretty stupid shit or something that's hurt someone, either physically, mentally, or emotionally, and were simply taken in by the heat of the moment. We all have those times, so it's useless to say that he needs to be punished for something that, legally, is not defensible.

I said, if he has not already been held to full account by the law, then he should be. Re-reading the article, it is apparent that he was dealt with by the police at the time, which therefore means that he shouldn't have to be apprehended by police again.

Of course everyone makes mistakes whether they be young or old, but somehow I don't think that abusing 5 girls at the age of 15 should be trivialised as a rite of passage that all kids go through.

He may well have changed since then, but that doesn't mean that he hasn't potentially ruined the lives of the girls who he abused, so forgive me for not having the utmost sympathy for him.

I do hope that he has changed and won't try anything like that again. He appears to show remorse, which is a good sign.

Did I say that I'm going to try and stop the Duggars from parenting their kids in such a way? No, I didn't. I simply stated that I disagree with how they raise their kids, which is an opinion that I am entitled to make. I am not making all of the Duggars out to be serial rapists; I'm just saying that I don't think that their approach to parenting their children is completely correct. Which again, is an opinion that I am entitled to make.

[Arkansasguy]

The reason I put crime in quotations is because apparently some people believe telling God sorry is all you need to do when you do something wrong and you are forgiven.
I guess that already gives a light to what my stance is.

If you do not know what the story is about --> http://www.usatoday.com/story/life/tv/2015/05/21/duggars-reeling-from-joshs-sex-abuse-scandal/27741883/

Do you support or not support Duggar and why? What are your overall thoughts?

What I find most terrifying about this issue is that - here we have a religious family that homeschool their children, no TV, girls are dressed to cover their cleavage, etc...It is a secular home and though yes they are on TV themselves they are pretty much hidden from sexual media, yet sexual abuse still happened in their household. People need tounderstand that sexual abuse can happen ANYWHERE and I think this really needs to be understood from this story.

Statute of limitations has passed.

[Melodic]

Honestly, I'm pretty upset that the family considered this a "teenage mistake" A teenage mistake would be dropping a vase to the ground, not a kid. Being someone who has witnessed a close person still have struggles after being raped, I think the guy should be held accountable.