British Election Results

[Vlerchan]

[9.38am:] The BBC forecast, with well over half of the results now in, is Conservative 329, Labour 234, the Lib Dems eight, the SNP 56, Plaid Cymru three, UKIP one, the Greens one and others 19.

http://www.bbc.com/news/election-2015-32633099

British elections - unlike US elections - are worth watching because it's possible that stuff like this can happen.

I'm shocked. I'd predicted a Labour-SNP government built on the promise of a second Scottish referendum. That can't happen now. It's not even possible for a rainbow anti-Conservative coalition since Conservatives have an outright majority.

Right. So where does this all leave us?
Austerity, and lots of it. The Conservatives have promised it and there was leaks last week that it might begin with a 12bn. disembowelment of the welfare budget. Combining this with the low growth last quarter and the impending deflation is madness but I guess we'll see where it goes. Of course it might be like the last election where the Conservatives talk tough and then water-down their policies in this regard.
Referendum on the EU. This bit is sort of hilarious. I don't think Cameron was considering it possible he might get re-elected on an outright majority and have to go through with this. What will probably happen though is that it will be worded as the UK seeking to 're-negotiate' their position within the EU and we'll see some token negotiations.
Ed Milliband is probably going to step down as leader of Labour.
Nick Clegg is probably going to step down as leader of the LibDems. I don't know who will replace him though, the LibDems lost a lot of big players last night.
Nigel Farage is probably not going to step down as leader of UKip. It's doubtful he'll get elected - and he made the claim he'd step down if that didn't happen - but he's colleagues are already charging open regrets about that because we all know that UKip is Nigel Farage. I also find it sort of hilarious that UKip are looking to lose seats, sitting at 1 at the moment.
So, anyone want to start the guessing for when the second Scotish refendum is going to be?

EDIT: Nigel Farage fails to win his seat and resigns. Lol.
EDIT2: The conservatives just hit 323. That's the magic number for an outright majority, since Sinn Féin are sure to abstain from sitting and the Speaker doesn't tend to vote.
EDIT3: Ed Milliband just resigned, so did Nick Clegg.

[Harley Quinn]

Congrats Britain, you fucked it.

[Vermilion]

No matter who got into power us British people were going to be screwed over like always, no one sticks to what they say

[Katie96xox]

How do SNP get 56 seats off 1.5mil votes while UKIP get 1 seat of 2.5 times as much? What type of a retarded electoral system do you have in Britain?

[Exocet]

Brexit – potential economic consequences if the UK exits the EU

http://ged-project.de/wp-content/uploads/2015/04/PolicyBrief_Print_Englische_Ausgabe2015_05_Brexit-FINAL.pdf

[Vlerchan]

Congrats Britain, you fucked it.
England*. I'm quite proud of Scotland.

How do SNP get 56 seats off 1.5mil votes while UKIP get 1 seat of 2.5 times as much? What type of a retarded electoral system do you have in Britain?
First-past-the-post. It's the same as the US actually.

It's more-or-less designed to concentrate power like this.

[phuckphace]

Farage, Milliband, Clegg...and nothing of value was lost

also this vaguely reminds me of when Americans reelected Bush lol

[Vlerchan]

Farage, Milliband, Clegg...and nothing of value was lost
There's a good chance Farage will return as leader. He hinted today that he might put his name forward in next September's leadership election.

I agree though that politics will be better off without these people leading it.

[Mil1dreded]

To me England just voted Tory to stop any chance of labour or anyone else working with the snp which is in England's best interests

[Neverender]

I can't believe Britain went and voted in the bloody Tories again.

But at the same time I can't believe how wrong all the polls have been for the last several years. In fact, I'd say it's very likely the imminent threat of the SNP Labour government predicted by the polls drove more people to the tories.

Also I'm very angry UKIP and Green got some 5 million votes with single seats in the legislature. Whether you agree with the quasi-fascistic nature of UKIP or not, that is a huge number of entirely disenfranchised voters.

I'm very proud of SNP's performance in Scotland. Since some day I'd like to see Newfoundland and Labrador independent from Canada once again, what SNP does is of the utmost importance to me.

[Andyyy95]

If I'm completely honest, I'm pretty proud of the government we've voted for.
I've felt that our country has been stable for the last five years, and picking up the mess that the previous Labour governments have left us with.

A Labour/SNP government would only wreck the country again... And do you really think Ed Miliband is fit enough to run our country?!?

[Fractured Silhouette]

If I'm completely honest, I'm pretty proud of the government we've voted for.
I've felt that our country has been stable for the last five years, and picking up the mess that the previous Labour governments have left us with.

A Labour/SNP government would only wreck the country again... And do you really think Ed Miliband is fit enough to run our country?!?

How much do you know about the Tories? 'cause I'd they're about a stable as the pile of corpses and money that they stand on.

Calling it, riots in the next 5 years. Good luck England, you're going to fucking need it.

[phuckphace]

unfortunately an SNP victory wouldn't help Scotland in the long run, they'd turn the country into an EU-owned nanny state with trigger warnings slapped over everything. read something about some bill they pushed that would assign social workers to every child born in Scotland ostensibly for "the welfare of the child" (i.e. making sure the parents aren't teaching little Johnnie to be a heteronormative breeder). oh, and a smoking ban in private vehicles, seriously? :lol3: these are some California-tier levels of PC finger-wagging

[Harry Smith]

If I'm completely honest, I'm pretty proud of the government we've voted for.
I've felt that our country has been stable for the last five years, and picking up the mess that the previous Labour governments have left us with.

A Labour/SNP government would only wreck the country again... And do you really think Ed Miliband is fit enough to run our country?!?

You're proud of 1 million people using food banks? You're proud of student fees being trebled? You're proud of the bedroom tax, of zero hours contracts and tory austerity?

Stable my arse. The tories are going to take us to an EU exit, costing millions of jobs in the UK and leading us to have less of a voice on the world stage. Cameron has lead to Britain having virtually no influence on the world stage-at least Blair helped to tackle the issues facing this country.

Mess that labour left us with? We had to bail out the banks ffs. If I recall the tories agreed with all of labours spending plans before the crash, and in fact called for less regulation of the banks. Lets stop this myth that Labour overspending caused the crash.

What SNP govt? Ed said they'd be no coalition ffs. Did you not see him deny it like 100 times. And yes he clearly is-not only was he elected leader but he served in govt before. He had more govt experience than Cameron or Blair. And he actually tackled the big issues (climate change, murdoch and inequality) whilst shouty Dave just pandered to UKIP. Ed ran a brilliant campaign in my eyes, and was perfectly prepared to be a good PM. But sure lets continue the tories myths.

The electorate didn't vote for this, so unfortunately labour will have to become the pro-business, pro-england party again.

[phuckphace]

lol Harry what does a fallen empire care about a "voice on the world stage" and what does that even mean anyway

and an EU exit would be good, could do without austerity or zero-hour contracts though

[Orgo]

lol Harry what does a fallen empire care about a "voice on the world stage" and what does that even mean anyway

and an EU exit would be good, could do without austerity or zero-hour contracts though

In what way would an EU exit be good? Thousands of jobs rely on being within the EU. Also, Britain leaves the EU, and Scotland leaves Britain. There is no win.

[Vlerchan]

David Cameron is facing diplomatic isolation and his first backbench rebellion over plans to scrap the Human Rights Act and exempt the Government from implementing unfavourable European Court of Human Rights rulings.

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/david-cameron-faces-tory-backbench-rebellion-over-plans-to-scrap-the-human-rights-act-10248313.html

The Tories have moved quick to begin curtailing civil liberties since assuming power, which includes stating intentions to legislate for strong anti-hate speech laws and introduce comprehensive internet surveillance. I'm highlighting this - and not the other things - because it goes far in highlighting the nature of Westminster. The Tories lack a coherent stance on the European issues, and you can be sure that the genuine opposition to Cameron's governance is going to lie in his own backbenchers.

On that note, please vote yes in the referendum. The EU will be no better served than with the UK's departure.

[phuckphace]

Thousands of jobs rely on being within the EU.

I'm aware

de-Thatcherise your shit. revamp industry and incentivize this through completely free education in high-demand fields. boot out all the immigrants that the €Ucrats dumped on your shores. do all this in a way as to light a fire under the native population and give them something to care about.

not going to happen but w/e

Also, Britain leaves the EU, and Scotland leaves Britain. There is no win.

why shouldn't Scotland leave if it wants to?

The Tories have moved quick to begin curtailing civil liberties since assuming power, which includes stating intentions to legislate for strong anti-hate speech laws and introduce comprehensive internet surveillance.

:lol3:

what do the Tories consider "hate speech", though? most Republicans don't even accept the concept at all.

[Orgo]

I'm aware

de-Thatcherise your shit. revamp industry and incentivize this through completely free education in high-demand fields. boot out all the immigrants that the €Ucrats dumped on your shores. do all this in a way as to light a fire under the native population and give them something to care about.

not going to happen but w/e



why shouldn't Scotland leave if it wants to?



:lol3:

what do the Tories consider "hate speech", though? most Republicans don't even accept the concept at all.


I'm not sure where you're getting this from. I live in a progressive country that welcomes immigration and encourages investment. Britain doesn't suffer from any loss of sovereignty, we're in the EU because we want to be. Public opinion is actually very positive towards staying in the EU if you look.

And yes, if Scotland wants to leave, it should be allowed to. I didn't say they shouldn't. But I like living in a United Kingdom, and would like to solve issues rather than tear the country a part.

[Vlerchan]

what do the Tories consider "hate speech", though? most Republicans don't even accept the concept at all.
Speech orientated towards radical Islam ("hatred and intolerance that undermines British values").

The amount of doublespeak is also pretty hilarious. Here's Teresa May, Home Secretary, on the issue:

"We are one nation, there will be different views within that nation. One of the great things about living in the United Kingdom is that we allowed a right to live our lives as we want to live our lives."

Britain doesn't suffer from any loss of sovereignty, we're in the EU because we want to be.
Being in the EU restricts sovereignty by definition.

[DerBear]

Just to add my input we were never going to have a SNP - Labour coalition, it was said by Ed Milliband a week before the election and I doubt that Labour was even going to that well in order to form a coalition in the first place.

Ah well five more years of good ol' Dave.