Rioting in Baltimore

[Seahawks15]

Can I please get a detailed story of what has happened in Baltimore? I looked on the news this morning and saw breaking news and pictures of destroyed police cars and rioting.Is it similar to the situation a few months ago in St. Louis?

[fairmaiden]

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3057819/Baltimore-police-Freddie-Gray-protestors-clash-violently-funeral.html <<< there you go

Basically, Freddie Gray, a young black man, was arrested in Baltimore on April 12th (i think). He sustained serious spinal damage, he had his voice box crushed, and other various parts of his body were severely damaged. He died a week later from complications. Somewhere along the line, from the time of his arrest to the moment he arrived at hospital, he was badly hurt. Police said that they took him into the police van without any problems, although eye witnesses said otherwise.

[thatcountrykid]

Police knew it was gonna happen. They were just afraid to armor up because they were afraid of being called "militarized." Let them do their damn job.

Also not in the news , the black gurealla? family, the bloods, and the crips are joining together to fight and kill cops. END THE DAMN WAR ON POLICE.

IF YOU ARE FIGHT FOR PEACE AND EQUALITY FOR ONE RACE, YOU ARE THE ISSUE. FIGHT FOR PEACE. FIGHT DMFOR FAIRNESS IN EVERYTHING. I swear to god it's like innocent im until proven guilty isn't the case if police are involved

[Ridonks_CB]

Read this to understand more about the situation of Baltimore itself and why the riots were so horrible
http://m.mic.com/articles/116714/7-facts-everyone-needs-to-know-to-understand-what-s-happening-in-baltimore

I don't see why they wouldn't react violentally, after Michael Brown and the fact that they're not even allowed to mention anything concerncing a police officer encounter.

P.S. I do take a better liking to peaceful approaches. Despite the situation, I don't think the riots should have happened this way :(

Double Post merged. Please use the edit function. -HN

[phuckphace]

Black Friday came early for Baltimore in 2015

[Ridonks_CB]

Black Friday came early for Baltimore in 2015

I feel bad that I smiled haha..

[SethfromMI]

it is crazy what is going on there

[Seahawks15]

Yeah,I was thinking something happened with a white to black racial thing or a police encounter that escalated to suspected police brutality against a black person.My social studies class discussed it this morning.

[phuckphace]

daily reminder that there are only riots when a white cop shoots a black guy

blacks shoot each other all day and no fucks are given

[WanderingHeart]

I wonder when humanity will realize: Violence x Violence = Product of Violence.

[phuckphace]

I wonder when humanity will realize: Violence x Violence = Product of Violence.

some of us have realized this, some of us haven't.

too bad we have too much of the latter and not enough of the former

[Seahawks15]

You don't fight fire with fire,it just makes it worse and nothing good will come from that.

[James Dean]

I guess a mother was watching all of this on the news and she recognized her son. She went to go confront him as to why he was there and beat him all the way home. That's a good mother and she could have easily said, forget it and let him be in the mix of all that, but she didn't and really loves and cares for him.

http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation-now/2015/04/28/baltimore-mom-slaps-son-riot-freddie-gray/26505237/

[phuckphace]

I guess a mother was watching all of this on the news and she recognized her son. She went to go confront him as to why he was there and beat him all the way home. That's a good mother and she could have easily said, forget it and let him be in the mix of all that, but she didn't and really loves and cares for him.

http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation-now/2015/04/28/baltimore-mom-slaps-son-riot-freddie-gray/26505237/

heh. now imagine what things would be like if the rest of these rioters also had real parents and families at home. I'm guessing a lot fewer rioters.

[Vlerchan]

daily reminder that there are only riots when a white cop shoots a black guy

blacks shoot each other all day and no fucks are given
I've mentioned before how the power relations involved are the most important part of these killings.

White cops also shoot black cops all the time and there's no major protests.

[phuckphace]

I've mentioned before how the power relations involved are the most important part of these killings.

White cops also shoot black cops all the time and there's no major protests.

I don't think the rabble that are out rioting have bothered to analyze power relations, or that they are even aware of the concept. it's largely groups of malcontent youths and young adults from broken, fatherless homes whose brains are pickled from early childhood in a toxic stew of endemic violence, degeneracy and abject poverty.

also, note the story James Dean posted above about the angry mother who showed up to retrieve her son from the riots. the power of peer pressure in action (and the tantalizing prospect of free sneaks or new rims) even when the parents are present and disapprove.

[Vlerchan]

I don't think the rabble that are out rioting have bothered to analyze power relations, or that they are even aware of the concept. it's largely groups of malcontent youths and young adults from broken, fatherless homes whose brains are pickled from early childhood in a toxic stew of endemic violence, degeneracy and abject poverty.
But the riot wouldn't be occurring unless the rioters felt some sense of legitimisation. I mentioned that cops shoot blacks all the time - but rioting doesn't follow each, or most, or even a significant proportion of them. I think whilst the rioters might not understand the sociopolitical dynamics at play in full, you can be sure that there's some sense of the grander scheme of things in their heads.

Remember Ferguson? The Brown killing was just a tipping point for a community characterised by the most definitional sort of institutional racism.

[phuckphace]

But the riot wouldn't be occurring unless the rioters felt some sense of legitimisation.

I don't doubt it. I'm sure at least some of the rioters are entertaining some vague, comic book-style notions of Good Guys vs. Bad Guys, with themselves as the Good Guys and the Bad Guys appearing as anthropomorphic pigs in police uniform.

I mentioned that cops shoot blacks all the time - but rioting doesn't follow each, or most, or even a significant proportion of them.

in your previous post, did you mean to state "white cops shoot black cops all the time"? if so I'd be interested in reading about these cases, since I can't imagine any scenario where one cop would be compelled to kill another cop regardless of race, unless there were other dynamics involved.

I think whilst the rioters might not understand the sociopolitical dynamics at play in full, you can be sure that there's some sense of the grander scheme of things in their heads.

I disagree. I think many, if not all simply conclude "systemic racism" as the sole cause and close the case right there, whereas I see it as an ugly mix of many different negative factors, systemic racism included, that reached a critical mass and then exploded.

Remember Ferguson? The Brown killing was just a tipping point for a community characterized by the most definitional sort of institutional racism.

indeed it was. let's not forget though, that Ferguson underwent a dramatic demographic shift within the last few decades (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ferguson,_Missouri#Demographics), which set the stage for the racial violence and tension that it suffers today. it's only logical that if Ferguson were still 99% white as it was until the 1970s, any systemic racism that existed, without any victims present to use it on, would simply lie dormant.

[Vlerchan]

I don't doubt it.
The important question is though is what makes these rioters characterise themselves as Good Guys, and characterise the police as Bad Guys, whilst not other people, and other police departments.

in your previous post, did you mean to state "white cops shoot black cops all the time"? if so I'd be interested in reading about these cases, since I can't imagine any scenario where one cop would be compelled to kill another cop regardless of race, unless there were other dynamics involved.
Oops. That was just a bad typo on my part.

I disagree. I think many, if not all simply conclude "systemic racism" as the sole cause and close the case right there, whereas I see it as an ugly mix of many different negative factors, systemic racism included, that reached a critical mass and then exploded.
I don't think it's the sole cause but I do question to what extent the other negative factors tie into institutional racism. Like consider how racism fuels feelings of social exclusion, joblessness, economic deprivation (http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/11105267), and how these affect crime and incarceration levels, drug use, teenage pregnancies and broken families, etc., because I would imagine there is quite a connection.

let's not forget though, that Ferguson underwent a dramatic demographic shift within the last few decades, which set the stage for the racial violence and tension that it suffers today.
No, white people in Ferguson being racist, set the stage for the racial violence and tension it suffers from today.

[Seahawks15]

I'm so glad that it has calmed down in Baltimore.Schools are running again and the streets are quiet again.I guess that vigil helped a lot.

[Stronk Serb]

To be honest, most people go to riots to break stuff and loot stores, not for the reason of the riot. Happened here during the Kosovo independence crisis and during one of the pride parades and also happened during the riots in the nineties.