Mac Vs PC

[robbiehay1]

i was just woundering how many people used macs and how many use pc's

im a pc man myself :)

[Gavin]

I have to use both for home and at college, so i would stick with the PC

[iJack]

Mac Rules

[The Batman]

PC all the way

[Bobby]

I prefer PC because that's what I've always used. But I don't mind Mac.

[Oblivion]

I have a PC but i would like a mac BADLY... In my opinion macs have a much better operating system

[Mzor203]

Blargh, I hate macs, hate em. I love PCs.

[Techno Monster]

I don`t like macs I have windows Vista and I LOVE me my VIAO, Victor the VIAO is meh baby.

[japanman]

PC AND MAC ALL THE WAY pc kick ass at some things but macs kick ass at others when ya have both then it equals KICK ASS MACHINERY

[IfPiratesCouldFly]

Macs are the suck.
PC are the good.
:3

[iJack]

PC AND MAC ALL THE WAY pc kick ass at some things but macs kick ass at others when ya have both then it equals KICK ASS MACHINERY

yep, it called parallels! (http://www. parallels.com)

[Antares]

I should have voted for both. At my house I have access to both.

[JoshDude]

PC ftw. always used them

[robbiehay1]

yay PC's are winning

I <3 PC's :P

[Electric Cheese]

**feels alternative** LINUX!!

[iJack]

I should have voted for both. At my house I have access to both.

same here, but i went for macs, i have 2 macbook's, and have a macbook at school


**feels alternative** LINUX!!

yay linux, cant moderators add poll options

[Patchy]

yay linux, cant moderators add poll options

yes, however report it if you want it.

I use PC....I use the latest Macs at school and there rubbish...I find...better than vista however not as good as xp

If someone is completely new to owning and using a pc macs are more friendly

[iJack]

yes, however report it if you want it.

I use PC....I use the latest Macs at school and there rubbish...I find...better than vista however not as good as xp

If someone is completely new to owning and using a pc macs are more friendly

ok, sorry

do you use the macbook air?

[close]

PC all the way cuz its alot easier to find programs for them. but i hate Vista no offence so i have XP

but i do have to admit that the macbook air is pretty cool

[Electric Cheese]

Ubuntu linux is the best, the only downside is that you have to install everything manually rather than having a self executing .exe (.rpm in linux speak)

[Patchy]

ok, sorry

do you use the macbook air?

We use the latest mac desktops in music...there like black with a silver trim...there rubbish, they look cool though

[iJack]

We use the latest mac desktops in music...there like black with a silver trim...there rubbish, they look cool though

iMac's?

[Brandon639]

I beg to differ. I just bought my new iMac and it runs windows better than a computer designed for Windows does! lol. Of course, Leopard is great too. :P

[Zazu]

yep, it called parallels! (http://www. parallels.com)

Bootcamp ftw :P

I use and own both a Mac and a PC. I use my mac for when I'm in bed and on msn, and for photography, graphics design and music creation. I use my pc for mostly everything else, like gaming and homework.

[Eagle1]

macs are only good for video editing pc take the cake more freedom

[mr. self destruct]

I've been a Mac user all my life. Ever since day one, my parents have had Apple computers, so I was sort of raised on them I guess.

[iJack]

I've been a Mac user all my life. Ever since day one, my parents have had Apple computers, so I was sort of raised on them I guess.

same here, i was surfing the web on my Gpa's iMac when i was young

[Trampster]

Sorry to drag this up, but I saw... this:http://i270.photobucket.com/albums/jj109/__VodkaGlow/Macs4free.jpg

...and I instantly thought "Mac have to resort to giving their products away, cause no one will atually pay for them.

[Techno Monster]

hahaha that is funny. I find macs difficult to use anyway.

[Brandon639]

Sorry to drag this up, but I saw... this:http://i270.photobucket.com/albums/jj109/__VodkaGlow/Macs4free.jpg

...and I instantly thought "Mac have to resort to giving their products away, cause no one will atually pay for them.


You do realize thats not Apple giving that away right? :lol:

[Trampster]

Well, yeah. But only cause they're sh*t. :D

I never see adverts give away "FREE*" decent/expensive laptops.

You know I'm right. Deal with it xD

[Zazu]

You do realize thats not Apple giving that away right? :lol:

Lol I saw what was posted and thought the same :D

Basically, what those people do is buy a load of laptops for a really cheap price, then make a load of spammy websites like the one that was posted. They advertise them as being "free", which from them, yes they technically are, if you even get one in the end. But to get a "free" laptop from them, you have to complete a lot of other offers. These offers = money for the original spam company for referring you to the other companies, then also more more for them for putting the adverts on the spammy give away site.

In the end, they earn more from advertising and passing you on to other people than they pay for the laptops. So you don't really get a free laptop, you have to dish out a fair bit of money to get it. And quite a lot of the time, they will find some way that you've "broken" their terms and conditions, and they wont give it to you.

Basically, don't touch them at all. Waste of time. And that thing doesn't mean macs aren't being sold, just that people are trying to scam you out of money ;)

[iJack]

Well, yeah. But only cause they're sh*t. :D

I never see adverts give away "FREE*" decent/expensive laptops.

You know I'm right. Deal with it xD

Yes you do, i have a whole bookmarks folder of them, im not allowed to post them, tho.

[Jeepmudr16]

Mac because with a program called virtual PC you can use both OS's i have vista and leopard on my Power mac i also have a tearbite HD and a 750 GB HD and 3 3.2ghz processors which is 9.6ghz with 10GB of ram my mac is KICK ASS!!! BEAT THAT PC USERS!!!!!!! but you can beat me at cheapness i spent $5,000 on my mac and to trampster they give away dell XPS laptops and those are over a thousand dollars and you never get the stuff anyway

[nefarious3d]

Im a mac user and a pc user. LOL I laugh when people say pc is better. PC isnt, simply put. Whats a problem with windows that linux and mac doesnt have to deal with? Viruses! Linux isnt half as user friendly, but that is because it is built by thousands of people, compiled. Yeah, .tar and .bz2 and whatever else blow, but in the end it works great.
Mac is the most user friendly OS and computer system in the world. And the best part is that their processor architecture is twice as efficient. So a 2 ghz mac would kick the snot out of a 2ghz PC.
But, mac and linux arent as good as windoze based pcs because windoze based pcs can run .exe files, which happen to be the main staple in the gaming diet.

[Blahages]

Im a mac user and a pc user. LOL I laugh when people say pc is better. PC isnt, simply put. Whats a problem with windows that linux and mac doesnt have to deal with? Viruses! Linux isnt half as user friendly, but that is because it is built by thousands of people, compiled. Yeah, .tar and .bz2 and whatever else blow, but in the end it works great.
Mac is the most user friendly OS and computer system in the world. And the best part is that their processor architecture is twice as efficient. So a 2 ghz mac would kick the snot out of a 2ghz PC.
But, mac and linux arent as good as windoze based pcs because windoze based pcs can run .exe files, which happen to be the main staple in the gaming diet.


PC's aren't better than Macs? It comes down to an individual's opinion. It's your opinion that Macs are better. I will say the exact opposite. But, at least I acknowledge the other side.

I've used Macs, Windows, Linux, and a lot of other OS's. OSx is geared towards people who want to produce and edit Multimedia, and similar things. It's also geared towards people who don't want to have a lot of control over their hardware, upgrades, and customization of their OS.

Windows DOES have the majority of Viruses, Yes. But, there's a reason for that. It's NOT that Windows is less secure. It's that a good 90% of so (I'm pulling that number out of the air, so don't quote it, I'm just saying that the major majority of the market uses PCs), so what do Hackers and people wanting to cause damage with Viruses go after? Windows.

That is the reason.

Here is some fun reading for you:

http://www.macworld.com/article/132733/2008/03/hack.html

http://news.softpedia.com/news/Mac-OS-X-Hacked-Vista-SP1-Hacked-Ubuntu-Linux-Survives-Unscathed-82079.shtml

As you can see in those two links, There was a little "Hacking" test done receccntly, Between Vista, OSx, and Ubuntu. OSx was Compromised in 2 hours, Vista the next day, and Linux was left uncompromsed.

The OSx one was due to Safari. But, to be fair, The Vista one was due to a flaw in Adobe's Third party Flash Plugin.

I know that doesn't cover everything, but I just thought I'd throw it out there for you.

Windows Isn't the least secure just because it has the most attacks annually. OSx just isn't targeted. If 90+% of the market used OSx, I'm sure the figures would stand opposite, and OSx would have the most viruses.

Linux is quite user friendly now. Give it a try again. It's getting better and better every day.

I'm also not sure why you mentioned Linux as having more Viruses than Macs. Linux has almost no Viruses to speak of.

I'm not sure what you're on about with the Tar and Tar.bz2 Files.

And, so you know, the Processor Architecture differences you claim are out the Window now, even IF they were true. Macs run on Core 2 processors now. You can buy those and put them in your PC, if you hadn't noticed.

I've seen many reports around that the Hacked version of OSx for x86 that was circulating the internet actually ran faster on PCs than on the Macs it was originally made for.

The ability to run EXE Files doesn't make one OS "better" than another. It depends on what use you are planning on using the OS for.

Linux was tailored towards Servers and the Tech Savy people. It's changing. You can do pretty much anything on Linux now that you can do on Windows. The main downfall is certain commercial programs and games. If you're not a hardcore gamer, Linux could quite possibly replace Windows as your Default OS without a problem. Not everyone is a gamer. There are many other practical uses for computers than Games.

Mac because with a program called virtual PC you can use both OS's i have vista and leopard on my Power mac i also have a tearbite HD and a 750 GB HD and 3 3.2ghz processors which is 9.6ghz with 10GB of ram my mac is KICK ASS!!! BEAT THAT PC USERS!!!!!!! but you can beat me at cheapness i spent $5,000 on my mac and to trampster they give away dell XPS laptops and those are over a thousand dollars and you never get the stuff anyway

VirtualBox is better overall than Virtual PC. Give it a try. The only thing Virtual PC beats VirtualBox on is Windows 9x and older MS Operating Systems. Virtual PC simply cannot handle Linux Distros, and does a poor job with XP and Vista. VirtualBox can handle those just fine, but has issues with 9x, because driver support was never made for 9x.

You can run XP/Vista, OSx, and Linux on the newer Intel Macs with Boot Camp. But, it doesn't mean they're better. I simply cannot stand OSx.

I'm doubting your story about 3 3.2GHz processors, and 10GB of RAM. The HDD story is believable.

Also, 3 3.2GHz processors in a computer is NOT the same thing as a 9.6GHz processor, at all. You can't just add them together like that, it's not how it works.

I will agree with your statement about the expense. Apple's prices are ridiculous.

I'm building a computer in a few days with parts I'm planning on ordering tomorrow. You can view it here:

https://secure.newegg.com/NewVersion/Wishlist/PublicWishDetail.asp?WishListNumber=6112414&WishListTitle=Actual+List

It's a little over 840$, before rebates. I have a HDD, Video card, and PSU already, as well as a DVDRW Drive, so I didn't need to order those.

But, it would have cost me a total of like 1100-1200$ or so if I needed those. It'll beat the crap out of any Mac you'll find.

I could say PCs are better because you can:

1.) Get them for Less
2.) Build them yourself
3.) Upgrade easier and cheaper
4.) I hate OSx anyway

Not trying to stereotype a group of people here, but a lot of the Mac "Fan boy" people that you see around going on about how Macs are so much better are usually just exhaling a lot of hot air, and have no backup to any of their claims, and generally don't know much about what they're claiming, or claiming against.

It's quite annoying.

If anyone has any rebuttals to anything I've said here, go ahead, And I'll reply to it. :)

[Whisper]

I own a PC but I'd like a Mac

[nefarious3d]

K, first off, why intel in your pc? AMD's quad core is/was better last time I checked. Secondly, I never, ever said that linux gets viruses... because it doesn't. Clearly Linux doesn't even run .exe files unless you have wine installed, and even then a virus will not affect your file system at all. What other os's are there? I can really honestly think of UNIX/FreeBSD, Linux(Cedega, Ubunut, Kubuntu, Red Hat, and so on), Mac, and Windoze. I only said that windoze gets a lot more viruses because ITS TRUE =]. And backing up Vista doesn't mean anything, the only reason it can't be hacked as fast yet is because they moved a lot of the files around from sys32 to other areas of your windows folder, and I am (don't quote me) fairly certain they edited registry. Plus macOSX has been out for much, much longer than Vista and clearly has the disadvantage then because anyone who can go out to Borders can probably get a book on how to hack it.


BY THE WAY. Just so ya know, your mobo can handle up to 1000/1066 ram, and unless your intending to overclock your ocz ram excessively, then I would just buy some good 1000/1066 ram =] =] it could actually save you in the long run..

Don't call me a geeky mac fanboy, macs do have smaller processor pipelines than the good majority of pc's, they may cost more, but you pay for usability, and all of the amazing stuff that comes on there. When I build a pc, it costs me in excess of 2000 dollars, no software, no games, nothing, just the hardware. Macs can come with a lot of cool extra stuff.

So there are definitly two sides to this story, and I support mac because they are the lesser of the two great beasts. Honestly I was running linux on my mac because i thought it would be nice to have portable ubuntu, but i reformatted to leapord.

I also own a handbuilt pc, the specs are.. a bit lame cos i havent been updating it, but it plays the games i like the way i want, and thats what i use it for.

thanks =]

[Blahages]

K, first off, why intel in your pc? AMD's quad core is/was better last time I checked.

I'm not sure where you checked, but they're really not. Don't get me wrong, I've chosen AMD over Intel for a few years now, every time. Until now.

http://www.extremetech.com/article2/0,1697,2226939,00.asp

The Intel Quads are just better than the AMD Phenoms. Hands down. The first generation of Phenoms also had an annoying bug in the processor that caused them to lock up periodically. I believe that is fixed now, in the newer ones, but they're still not to par.

AMD's Quads to beat Intel's in some areas, but not many.


Secondly, I never, ever said that linux gets viruses... because it doesn't. Clearly Linux doesn't even run .exe files unless you have wine installed, and even then a virus will not affect your file system at all. What other os's are there? I can really honestly think of UNIX/FreeBSD, Linux(Cedega, Ubunut, Kubuntu, Red Hat, and so on), Mac, and Windoze. I only said that windoze gets a lot more viruses because ITS TRUE =]. And backing up Vista doesn't mean anything, the only reason it can't be hacked as fast yet is because they moved a lot of the files around from sys32 to other areas of your windows folder, and I am (don't quote me) fairly certain they edited registry. Plus macOSX has been out for much, much longer than Vista and clearly has the disadvantage then because anyone who can go out to Borders can probably get a book on how to hack it.

Yeah, I was typing that up at 3am this morning. I read the virus part wrong, Sorry. I read it as "Whats a problem with windows and linux that mac doesnt have to deal with? Viruses!" when it said "Whats a problem with windows that linux and mac doesnt have to deal with? Viruses!" I just swapped two words.

There are a lot of other OS's besides that. Those are the most popular, though.

It is true that Windows gets more viruses. I never disputed that. I was responding to the way you came off in your post. You came off that "OSx is so much better because it's so much more secure by design and has almost no viruses, and Windows is all sucky and is so buggy and insecure and has 58,925,890,789 viruses!?!/11"

Personally, I don't get Viruses or Spyware. I haven't in years. It's not hard not to.

BY THE WAY. Just so ya know, your mobo can handle up to 1000/1066 ram, and unless your intending to overclock your ocz ram excessively, then I would just buy some good 1000/1066 ram =] =] it could actually save you in the long run..

Yes, I know that. But, have you paid attention to the prices for the DDR2 1066 Ram? It's a fair bit more. I can get 8GB of DDR2 800 for cheaper than 4GB of DDR2 1066.

What I'm getting right now will serve me in the long run. I can always upgrade down the road, and the computer will still be good enough to do what it needs to.

I had been thinking about overclocking the RAM, but I haven't decided it it will happen or not. Depends on a few things.

Don't call me a geeky mac fanboy, macs do have smaller processor pipelines than the good majority of pc's, they may cost more, but you pay for usability, and all of the amazing stuff that comes on there. When I build a pc, it costs me in excess of 2000 dollars, no software, no games, nothing, just the hardware. Macs can come with a lot of cool extra stuff.

I didn't specifically call you a fan boy. I'm talking in general. Most people that come in going all off on Windows and Linux and praising Macs and OSx are just that. And, have no idea what they're talking about.

Did you not know that Macs use the Intel Core 2 now? PCs have them all over the place. It's the same processor.

The hardware that you can get for a PC for 2000$ would overpower any Mac for that price. You'd have to spend probably twice that on a Mac to get even close to the same specs, IF you could.

Nothing OSx comes with I need. Period. For me, it's a waste of money, and a waste of time. I've used Macs, and OSx.

There are Free/Open source software titles out there all over the place now. The ONLY Pieces of software on my Windows install that I have are not Free or open source are Windows and Counter Strike: Source.

And, I have a LOT of programs. Video Editing, Image Editing, Audio Editing, IM Programs, Word Processors, Office Suites, IM Programs, Media Players, VPN Server/Clients, Browsers, Packet Sniffers, SSH Programs, VNC Server/Clients, DVD Rippers/Burners, Anti-Viruses, Anti-Spyware Programs, Media Center Programs, Ghost-Like Programs, and MANY other things.

If you need a huge list of Open Source/Freeware titles that I and a few others have compiled, I can link you to it.

You do also realize that if you know what you're doing, you shouldn't have to purchase a copy of Windows more than once. You buy a retail license, and when you get a new computer, you remove it from your old machine, and install it on your new one. Perfectly legal, and saves you money.

So there are definitely two sides to this story, and I support mac because they are the lesser of the two great beasts. Honestly I was running Linux on my mac because i thought it would be nice to have portable ubuntu, but i reformatted to leapord.

In your opinion, it is the lesser of two evils. But, I say the exact opposite, and most people agree, including most people that know quite a bit about both OS's.

Simply put, Most people couldn't get away with using OSx, because of compatibility. It fails.

It lacks a LOT of things that I need. Not just in compatibility, but usability.

If Apple wanted people to try to adopt it at a higher rate, they'd provide it for other platforms than just their Macs.

I would never pay what they ask for for a system built by them. I think they're ugly, for one thing.

It may suit your needs, but it definitely does not suit mine.

And, if you didn't know, Linux and OSx are based off the same original Unix Base.

I can say that Vista is a huge POS, though. All of my responses about Windows, you can assume are geared towards XP.

[nefarious3d]

ahh. see i thought you were saying vista was amazing. lol i was like, uhhh.. no.. its so buggy and if you dont have dx10 based video cards and a dualcore processor your basically.. well idk most of the time your sol. and i have a windows based machine, that i solely use for gaming, web authoring, and downloading amazing amounts of files. lol.
i got my mac for 300 bucks off of a friend, and it works for me. i like it just because it is useable, and sure, they use the core2 but you can also install windows. if you have ever installed windows on a mac fresh off the harddrive (no virtual partition or whatever) then it does run a lot faster. idk just kind of throwing that out there.

and yea, my hand built desktop can eat my mac alive, if i want it to, but my desktop also doesnt have half of the programs my mac does. meh i just use both and call it good.

i like osx also because i believe (correct me if im entirely wrong) but it does have a root based file system. i think it is somewhat based off of linux or unix or something to that effect.

sorry about the ram comment, i was just curious. honestly you probably would save some money if you just bought the 1066 and didnt spend the $100 or so dollars now and then buy the 1066 later.. that just costs almost twice as much in the end.

what? you payed for your copy of windows? seriously? honestly i pay for about [cough]nothing[cough] of what i have on my machine except steam games and the other tons of video games i bought before i was introduced to torrents.

and i kind of snickered when i saw that you used packet sniffers. have you tried cain and able? what about the mac version that does about the same thing, kismac?
they both work quite well. most macs have built in wireless and bluetooth, and the battery life on their laptops is.. insane. i do like windows and mac a lot, but i side with mac just because it IS a lot more use-able. and plus, there are about a bajillion (dont even bother quoting me on that fake number) opensource programs, apps, and fun little things just for mac. GOOGLE SKETCHUP =] and its a great computer for video editing.
what other computer comes with a microphone and a videocamera built in?

lol but pc's can be quite sweet because of the .exe and universal compatibility. i was just saying that macs are fairly cool. lol i was honestly just trying to say that they are both really amazing machines from equally good companies, and both have their downfalls and problems and "epic fail"s... =]



lol and mac osx actually has no viruses. because it doesnt open .exe files. and the majority of viruses are based off of .exe files.

[0=]

what other computer comes with a microphone and a videocamera built in?


lol and mac osx actually has no viruses. because it doesnt open .exe files. and the majority of viruses are based off of .exe files.

Plenty of laptops have them built-in, and desktops often come with superior cameras and microphones.

Once again, that's down to the fact that hardly anyone uses a Mac, so there's no point in coding a virus for Macs. Not opening executables has nothing to do with virus vulnerability, just frequency.

[Blahages]

ahh. see i thought you were saying vista was amazing. lol i was like, uhhh.. no.. its so buggy and if you dont have dx10 based video cards and a dualcore processor your basically.. well idk most of the time your sol. and i have a windows based machine, that i solely use for gaming, web authoring, and downloading amazing amounts of files. lol.
i got my mac for 300 bucks off of a friend, and it works for me. i like it just because it is useable, and sure, they use the core2 but you can also install windows. if you have ever installed windows on a mac fresh off the harddrive (no virtual partition or whatever) then it does run a lot faster. idk just kind of throwing that out there.

No, I hate Vista. I tested it many times before the actual release. Never liked it, and I still don't.

It does nothing that I need that XP Doesn't do, and better.

My DX9 card handles the graphics fine.

But, that is the only thing that makes me somewhat suggest Vista to someone, is if they need DX10.

I really don't game, so I could care less about DX10.

and yea, my hand built desktop can eat my mac alive, if i want it to, but my desktop also doesnt have half of the programs my mac does. meh i just use both and call it good.

What types of programs does your Mac have that the Windows computer can't or doesn't have?

I can easily find a huge number of free programs that do what I need.

Here's a huge list of Free/Open Source software that was put together by myself and a few others:

http://forums.govteen.com/showthread.php?p=4268037#post4268037

Obviously there are more things like that, but it's just a list that we compiled out of things we could think of that were good.

i like osx also because i believe (correct me if im entirely wrong) but it does have a root based file system. i think it is somewhat based off of linux or unix or something to that effect.

Yes, OSx is based off Unix.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mac_OS_X

http://www.apple.com/macosx/technology/unix.html

sorry about the ram comment, i was just curious. honestly you probably would save some money if you just bought the 1066 and didnt spend the $100 or so dollars now and then buy the 1066 later.. that just costs almost twice as much in the end.

I actually ended up buying this:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820227277

I ended up finding that yesterday, and it's the same basic price as the one I was looking at before. It's not 1066, but it's 1000, which is close enough.

what? you payed for your copy of windows? seriously? honestly i pay for about [cough]nothing[cough] of what i have on my machine except steam games and the other tons of video games i bought before i was introduced to torrents.

For one thing, Discussing Illegal things on these forums is a no-no, anyway, so even if I had, it's not something that we discuss, or it could end up in the thread being locked, which is pointless.

And, no, I didn't pay for it. I didn't need to. I had access to an Academic MSDN Account for a while, from School, and was given a License to XP. I also have multiple computers with OEM XP Licenses on them.

and i kind of snickered when i saw that you used packet sniffers. have you tried cain and able? what about the mac version that does about the same thing, kismac? they both work quite well. most macs have built in wireless and bluetooth, and the battery life on their laptops is.. insane. i do like windows and mac a lot, but i side with mac just because it IS a lot more use-able. and plus, there are about a bajillion (dont even bother quoting me on that fake number) opensource programs, apps, and fun little things just for mac. GOOGLE SKETCHUP =] and its a great computer for video editing.
what other computer comes with a microphone and a videocamera built in?

I use packet sniffers mainly for fun. Wireshark.

The main use is just curiousity as to what's going across my network.

I've also used it to find the location of sound files on a website, and other similar things.

I could care less about Bluetooth and Wireless in a Desktop computer. As for a Laptop, Most laptops have those and microphones, anyway, and a lot have built in webcams.

They're not a Mac exclusive thing.

Again, your opinion on the usability thing. I personally think it's worse off, in many ways.

Sure, some first time users may find some of it easier, but anyone who knows very much about computers, and likes to customize and screw around with their computer, will likely dislike that functionality.

Are you mentioning Google Sketchup as a Mac only App? Because it's not.

lol but pc's can be quite sweet because of the .exe and universal compatibility. i was just saying that macs are fairly cool. lol i was honestly just trying to say that they are both really amazing machines from equally good companies, and both have their downfalls and problems and "epic fail"s... =]

I have no reason to disagree with that.

lol and mac osx actually has no viruses. because it doesnt open .exe files. and the majority of viruses are based off of .exe files.

There ARE Viruses for OSx. Just not nearly as many.

EXE files definitely aren't he only way to distribute viruses.

And, like has been mentioned by myself, and others, it comes down to the fact that there's no reason for people to code viruses for Macs. If Mac had 90+% of the OS market, I could sit here and say "Macs have 5432095732 Viruses, and Windows has like none, because it doesn't open .DMG files!?"

[nefarious3d]

i didnt say google sketch up was mac only lolz. macs are easy to use, just like windows. they are honestly both about the same in my book. one uses this gui to make things open and close, the other uses this gui. its all a matter of personal preference. personally i think mac is a little easier just because its simple. i like the fact that the programs that i use are on the bottom of the screen. i dont particularly like the start menu though. the programs that i like a lot for mac that migrated over to windows are few honestly, but i also like it because they are pretty good for freeware apps as well. sure there are freeware or whatever you want to call it apps for windows too, but its sometimes hard to actually find a good one.
mac apps are sponsored on their website. the other thing i like that i have on here is python which i am still attempting to learn how to use. i like the wide area of the wireless card, and the bluetooth is nice right once i can find a way to get my buddies to update their vent server so i can use my bluetooth headset on vent. the battery life is amazing, far better than most laptops. note i said most. the laptop i have is quite nice, as it has buttons to dim the screen and the volume, and although mostly all laptops have those too, these are simple to use and are very easy to find as well.
by no means am i 100% backing apple, i know it came off like that at first. i like both beasts. i love my mac because i use it in the garage and its what i take to school with me, and my desktop is great for gaming and what not.
and yes dx9 cards work good with vista, but i dont like to use them for vista.
and the other thing i like about mac, is that they are innovative. or just different. their desktop that you insert a disc into it and the disc pops onto the screen and it looks like it just went through dimensions and stuff? youve gotta admit that that is fairly cool... =]
but i like windows for all its buggy glory (cos trust me there is plenty of it) and mac for its basically bugless glory but less usable features.

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i didnt say google sketch up was mac only lolz.

I think you need to work on making things more clear, because the way you worded things earlier, it sounded like you were saying that "There are so many good open source programs for Mac (Specifically for Mac), like Google Sketchup.

macs are easy to use, just like windows. they are honestly both about the same in my book. one uses this gui to make things open and close, the other uses this gui. its all a matter of personal preference. personally i think mac is a little easier just because its simple. i like the fact that the programs that i use are on the bottom of the screen. i dont particularly like the start menu though. the programs that i like a lot for mac that migrated over to windows are few honestly, but i also like it because they are pretty good for freeware apps as well. sure there are freeware or whatever you want to call it apps for windows too, but its sometimes hard to actually find a good one.

You can customize the way Windows works. There are plenty of "OSx-Dock-Like-Bars" for Windows, that you can install and have the same exact thing. There are also a lot of other things you can do to make it "look like a Mac" if you're so keen on it.

Not that I know why you'd want to.

There are thousands more freeware apps for Windows, and are you seriously saying that it's easier to find good freeware apps for Mac than for Windows? I find that a little hard to believe.

Examples?

mac apps are sponsored on their website. the other thing i like that i have on here is python which i am still attempting to learn how to use. i like the wide area of the wireless card, and the bluetooth is nice right once i can find a way to get my buddies to update their vent server so i can use my bluetooth headset on vent. the battery life is amazing, far better than most laptops. note i said most. the laptop i have is quite nice, as it has buttons to dim the screen and the volume, and although mostly all laptops have those too, these are simple to use and are very easy to find as well.

I couldn't care less about whether or not an application is sponsored by the OS Maker. I don't know why that matters.

You can install and use Python on pretty much any OS.

There are countless wireless cards that have great range, for any OS.

Bluetooth isn't a Mac-Only thing.

My laptop has buttons for dimming the screen and controlling the volume. It's ridiculously easy to use, and I can find it in the dark.

by no means am i 100% backing apple, i know it came off like that at first. i like both beasts. i love my mac because i use it in the garage and its what i take to school with me, and my desktop is great for gaming and what not.
and yes dx9 cards work good with vista, but i dont like to use them for vista.

DX9 works in XP too.

and the other thing i like about mac, is that they are innovative. or just different. their desktop that you insert a disc into it and the disc pops onto the screen and it looks like it just went through dimensions and stuff? youve gotta admit that that is fairly cool... =]

What are you talking about? Dimensions and Stuff? I have no idea what you're talking about. Are you talking about some odd Visual Effect?

If so, I could careless about some pointless effect that the OS makes when I insert a CD. Personally, I disable Autorun on all my computers. I don't like putting a CD in and having things randomly pop up on me. Half the time, I don't want the Autorun executing, I need something else on the CD. So, I access it myself.

but i like windows for all its buggy glory (cos trust me there is plenty of it) and mac for its basically bugless glory but less usable features.

Windows isn't buggy. Well, Vista is, but XP isn't.

Give some current Examples.

You only say OSx isn't buggy because it's not taken advantage of very often to find bugs. Nobody who would exploit these bugs cares about OSx, because it's not worth their time.

If people that exploited the bugs thought it was worth their time, I'm sure they'd have a LOT of bugs found.

I can also almost garrantee you that if I was using OSx, I'd have at least one bug found within a day or so. I'm very good at accidently stumbling across bugs.