Gaming Computer

[NzForever]

I want a good gaming computer, can someone please tell me if this is a good computer and what games it can run? I don't know lots about computers


GAMING i7 4790K 16GB 2TB GTX970 OC USB3 WIN8.1
GTX 970 4GB Top Gaming PC -- Intel Latest processor Haswell Core i7 4790K ,Quliaty Motherboard , SATA3, USB3, 16GB DDR3 RAM, 2TB SATA3 HDD, Nvidia Geforce GTX 970 4GB Video Card

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* CPU --- Intel Latest processor Haswell Core i7-4790K 4.0GHz 8MB LGA1150

* Motherboard --- Gigabyte Z97-HD3 Socket 1150,Intel Z97 CHipset, ATX Form, 4 X DDR3 DIMM,VGA/DVI/HDMI,6 X SATA3, USB3, Support AMD CrossFireX


*Memory --- Top Brand Kingston /Crucial 16GB ddr3

* Hard Drive --- West Digital 2000GB SATA3 Hard Drive
* DVD Writer --- SATA 22x speed Optical DVD Writer
* PC Case --- RaidMax VIPER GX 512WBG Front Green LED with Top brand FSP Genuine 650W 80Plus Silver Certificated, efficiency

* Video Card ---Top Brand EVGA/ Gigabyte Nvidia GeForce GTX970 4GB OC GDDR5 PCI-Express X16 3.0 DirectX 11 High Definition Dedicated Video Graphics Card w/HDMI 1080P High Definition Output


OS-- Window 8.1 64 bit with disc and coa
8 Channel High-Definition Audio, Gigabit LAN broadband ready.

[Magenta]

Okay, first, drop the i7. People are gonna tell you that you need a better CPU and you don't. For gaming, most of the power is coming from the GPU (your graphics card). So you're wasting money when an i5 is perfectly fine. Second, I wouldn't go with an HDD. An SSD is a lot faster and the computer boots up amazingly quickly. Don't go with anything under 200GB because it does fill up very quickly and it will be more expensive than an HDD but if you only use an i5 CPU, you're basically just shuffling the money around.

Don't get a DVD writer. Are you going to be burning CDs or DVDs on this computer? Or are you just gaming? No one gets games off a disc anymore. Most of the time they're just collector items now. More money for something you won't use.

The case sounds decent though I'm not familiar with it. If it's not full metal though, don't buy it. And it's probably going to be expensive because of the lights. You can add that stuff later.

Memory? 16GB is kinda overkill but go for it if you can afford it. I'm only using 8 and it works about 75% better than my 4GB RAM laptop.

The GTX 970 is a good card. It is, however, expensive. Again, I don't know your budget but for a good bang for your buck, I'm running the GTX 960 which is newer, has a lower benchmark but still runs everything I play on ultra settings, and is half the price. Remember, you can upgrade stuff later. You won't be playing anything super new on ultra like Dragon Age: Inquisition or whatever but I mean, it runs 1920x1080 games amazingly so I have no complaints.

As for Windows 8.1... I'm not a Windows expert. I've had a new gaming PC for a week and I taught myself Windows 7 in a day. However, from what I've heard, you might as well go with Windows 7 64bit. It's more simplistic and everything runs on it. Don't upgrade to Windows 10 when it comes out because none of your drivers will work right a way and most of your games won't be optimized for it. But basically do your research. You can do just fine on Windows 7 though.

Also, make sure you do have USB 2.0 ports on your computer. A lot of hardware like headsets and whatnot have not yet upgraded to USB3. So just keep that in mind. Otherwise I can't speak much on the motherboard. Not my area of expertise.

This is just my opinion based on the computer I just built. It came to about $1,500 and some of the parts are not as high end as what you want. Some of what you want is overkill imo, depending on what you're doing with the computer. So you'll end up spending more than me. If you want my specs for comparison, let me know and I'll type them up.

[Typhlosion]

I'm assuming the computer you are listing is not what you will be building, but a pre-built product. I feel that you should have some good ideas of what means what in the computer world before trying to buy a computer for anything other than Facebook. A computer isn't only a toy, but also a powerful workstation. If you have the site you're looking for computers or a full listing of the vendor's catalog it would be very helpful for us.

I'm going to leech off Jo/Carmilla's comments and insert my own...

Okay, first, drop the i7. People are gonna tell you that you need a better CPU and you don't. For gaming, most of the power is coming from the GPU (your graphics card). So you're wasting money when an i5 is perfectly fine. Indeed. Plus, without any knowledge of computers, you shouldn't be overclocking.

Second, I wouldn't go with an HDD. An SSD is a lot faster and the computer boots up amazingly quickly. Don't go with anything under 200GB because it does fill up very quickly and it will be more expensive than an HDD but if you only use an i5 CPU, you're basically just shuffling the money around.Unless you like hoarding or using very large amounts of data, a solo SSD isn't a bad option. Personally, I'd rather have a small SSD + an HDD for storage. The R/W times of an HDD never bothered me much, though.

Don't get a DVD writer. Are you going to be burning CDs or DVDs on this computer? Or are you just gaming? No one gets games off a disc anymore. Most of the time they're just collector items now. More money for something you won't use.I was going to argue about car music CDs or console piracy, but the CD/DVD format are obsolete in both... A CD/DVD reader is ridiculously cheap nowadays and you never know when you're going to need one. Considering the price, it's nice to have a backup.

The case [...]*shrugs* no clue on the matter.

Memory? 16GB is kinda overkill but go for it if you can afford it. I'm only using 8 and it works about 75% better than my 4GB RAM laptop.Memory is super easy and expansible. I'd first start with 8GB of RAM and, if you ever notice that you're hitting the ceiling, then buy an additional 8GB or RAM.

The GTX 970 is a good card. It is, however, expensive. Again, I don't know your budget but for a good bang for your buck, I'm running the GTX 960 which is newer, has a lower benchmark but still runs everything I play on ultra settings, and is half the price. Remember, you can upgrade stuff later. You won't be playing anything super new on ultra like Dragon Age: Inquisition or whatever but I mean, it runs 1920x1080 games amazingly so I have no complaints.I don't know, I'm not too big of a fan of the replacing videocard philosophy. I'd rather wait a little longer and get that much better card for a smaller price leap than buying a new one later.

As for Windows 8.1... I'm not a Windows expert. I've had a new gaming PC for a week and I taught myself Windows 7 in a day. However, from what I've heard, you might as well go with Windows 7 64bit. It's more simplistic and everything runs on it. Don't upgrade to Windows 10 when it comes out because none of your drivers will work right a way and most of your games won't be optimized for it. But basically do your research. You can do just fine on Windows 7 though.Aye, the majority uses W7, and that's what the developers are most likely working for. I'd still prefer the more modern W8.1, but 'ey, preferences.

Also, make sure you do have USB 2.0 ports on your computer. A lot of hardware like headsets and whatnot have not yet upgraded to USB3. So just keep that in mind. Otherwise I can't speak much on the motherboard. Not my area of expertise.Bite me if I'm wrong, but I'm pretty sure that USB 2.0 devices are compatible with USB 3.x ports. Either way, the MOBO does have two 2.0 ports.

Also, I know it's nor really very efficient for gaming, but bear in mind that your computer will not come with WiFi support.

... From the guy with a ~1800 BRL / 600 USD self-built computer.

[NzForever]

Hey guys thanks for the advice, I apprentice it.

This is the computer: http://www.trademe.co.nz/computers/desktops/no-monitor/auction-865541067.htm


Here are some other ones: http://www.trademe.co.nz/computers/desktops/no-monitor/auction-868676890.htm
http://www.trademe.co.nz/computers/desktops/no-monitor/auction-865399919.htm

I'm just having a little trouble deciding, I want it for games like WoW, Minecraft, SC2, Diablo III, BF4, Advance Warfare ect.

If anyone can recommend one to buy, it would be very helpful. Only after a premade one or if some site does a good custom

[Magenta]

Unless you like hoarding or using very large amounts of data, a solo SSD isn't a bad option. Personally, I'd rather have a small SSD + an HDD for storage. The R/W times of an HDD never bothered me much, though.

I don't know, I'm not too big of a fan of the replacing videocard philosophy. I'd rather wait a little longer and get that much better card for a smaller price leap than buying a new one later.

Bite me if I'm wrong, but I'm pretty sure that USB 2.0 devices are compatible with USB 3.x ports. Either way, the MOBO does have two 2.0 ports.

Also, I know it's nor really very efficient for gaming, but bear in mind that your computer will not come with WiFi support.

1) Yes, should have mentioned using an SSD for basically your boot disc/other stuff and having an extra HDD for bonus storage. But just using an HDD to me is silly on a gaming computer.

2) I'm not a fan either since most cards just go obsolete after about four years and you can't fit new ones in properly but within a certain timeframe if you really are on a tight budget, the card I recommended is good for the price and while I see no reason to upgrade it for what I want, someone else might decide to later and that's their choice. /shrug

3) Some USB3 ports claim to be backwards compatible but it's a sorta touch and go process. Some devices will work, some devices won't. Older USB2 devices likely won't because a lot of drivers and whatnot just aren't compatible. Some just don't have the right support. So it's always good to have a couple USB2 ports just in case. I have both on mine.

4) YES. I forgot about this, make sure you have a WiFi card installed if you want access to wireless internet. It's not ideal for gaming but I use one because my house is not wired for ethernet and I so far haven't had any huge issues. I just did a four hour Twitch stream tonight on the WiFi and it went okay and I've done some online MMOs with relatively low lag. But that is a must if you want WiFi because it does not come pre-installed if you build your own.

Honestly, you're better off building one yourself. I know people say it's more expensive but a custom computer just means it's built to suit your needs rather than purchasing something that honestly probably just looks fancier.