Report: Israel treating al-Qaida fighters wounded in Syria civil war

[Exocet]

Israel has opened its borders with Syria in order to provide medical treatment to Nusra Front and al-Qaida fighters wounded in the ongoing civil war, according to The Wall Street Journal.

http://www.jpost.com/Middle-East/Report-Israel-treating-al-Qaida-fighters-wounded-in-Syria-civil-war-393862

These are the same idiots who call on the whole world to fight Hamas/AQ... :lol:

[Stronk Serb]

Wow... Wow... Wow... I'm fucking speechless. They really want to dedtabilize the region and possibly fuck themselves up. I expect the islamists to shoot the Israelis on sight, unless they are as false as Israel is

[Kahn]

Wow... Wow... Wow... I'm fucking speechless. They really want to dedtabilize the region and possibly fuck themselves up. I expect the islamists to shoot the Israelis on sight, unless they are as false as Israel is

The wounded need to be tended to, even radicals. You can't slaughter people like sheep, and Israel no doubt has the best medical care in the region, so it's only right those in need of proper medical care get it. I won't justify sleeping with the enemy but I don't see that here. I see hurt people getting help, and Israel prolonging a problem for Iran by aiding those hurt people.

The Israelis have no doubt considered the geopolitical ramifications of dealing with al-Qaeda, and would never do so officially. They still have very distinct worldviews. They're still very much enemies. This is just a fluff piece.

[Left Now]

The wounded need to be tended to, even radicals. You can't slaughter people like sheep, and Israel no doubt has the best medical care in the region, so it's only right those in need of proper medical care get it. I won't justify sleeping with the enemy but I don't see that here. I see hurt people getting help, and Israel prolonging a problem for Iran by aiding those hurt people.

The Israelis have no doubt considered the geopolitical ramifications of dealing with al-Qaeda, and would never do so officially. They still have very distinct worldviews. They're still very much enemies. This is just a fluff piece.

It looks like you don't understand what is going on.They treat them and after that they are free to go to fight against Syrian forces once again.It's not called simple treatment it's called medical support for forces.Israel is supporting these men with treating them and send them back to Syria.

After Gollan incident it got completely clear that they just have one goal: Destablizing Syria at any cost.They don't care who is fighting against Syrian army they just care they are fighting.

[Stronk Serb]

The wounded need to be tended to, even radicals. You can't slaughter people like sheep, and Israel no doubt has the best medical care in the region, so it's only right those in need of proper medical care get it. I won't justify sleeping with the enemy but I don't see that here. I see hurt people getting help, and Israel prolonging a problem for Iran by aiding those hurt people.

The Israelis have no doubt considered the geopolitical ramifications of dealing with al-Qaeda, and would never do so officially. They still have very distinct worldviews. They're still very much enemies. This is just a fluff piece.

I wouldn't treat wounded rapists, murderers and childkillers, I would bring them in chains to a court of law to answer for their crimes. If they need medical treatment to attend court so be it but I wouldn't send them back to continue their attrocities. They give medical aid to islamist fighters, not civilians. They need to be stopped.

[Kahn]

It looks like you don't understand what is going on.They treat them and after that they are free to go to fight against Syrian forces once again.It's not called simple treatment it's called medical support for forces.Israel is supporting these men with treating them and send them back to Syria.

After Gollan incident it got completely clear that they just have one goal: Destablizing Syria at any cost.They don't care who is fighting against Syrian army they just care they are fighting.

I'm not in the region and won't pretend to have a better handle on it than someone who is. I understand that by aiding the insurgents medically it is allowing the situation to be prolonged. I still feel that those in need of medical treatment deserve the best treatment available. I won't condemn them for providing medical treatment but I will because they're actively participating in the destabilization of the region by releasing healed insurgents because it's convinient, or suits their interests.

[Left Now]

I'm not in the region and won't pretend to have a better handle on it than someone who is. I understand that by aiding the insurgents medically it is allowing the situation to be prolonged. I still feel that those in need of medical treatment deserve the best treatment available. I won't condemn them for providing medical treatment but I will because they're actively participating in the destabilization of the region by releasing healed insurgents because it's convinient, or suits their interests.

And that's the problem here.

They are not doing this because those men are in serious need of medical treatment;if that was the reason no one would have any problem with that,but without keeping them inbound after medical treatment and providing a field for them to return to Syria and bring them back from territories controled by them any other time to treat them for being able to fight again,they are militarily supporting one of the sides in conflicts.Exactly what Jordan and Turkey are doing too,with financial support from Saudi Arabia and some countries in Europe and America.

It is Military Support,and it is directly for al-Qaeda linked groups,so in this case it cannot be approved at all.

[Exocet]

These terrorists don't need medical treatment,they need a bullet in their heads,i sometimes don't understand some persons..
"Israeli" soldiers talking to their friends. ;)
It is funny though that they never attacked "Israel",funny,funny...

http://pbs.twimg.com/media/B_WGqsgW8AAg5vy.jpg

[thatcountrykid]

Well considering every Arab government around them is hostile towards them I don't disagree with their trying to destabilize

[Left Now]

Well considering every Arab government around them is hostile towards them I don't disagree with their trying to destabilize

There are 4 Arab countries surrounding Israel which two of them have supportive or neutral attitude toward it right now,Jordan and Egypt,and two others have always been in danger of being attacked by Israeli Army,Syria and Lebanon;so I don't consider this claim that Israel's reason for destablizing region is because it is threatened,while it itself is a threat for its expansionist plans.

The only reason behind Israel's efforts in destablizing area with such acts like this which have been done before too,is to weaken these two countries' stability and security so it can expand its territory into theirs,with Gollan Heights in Syria and Southern parts of Lebanon.

[thatcountrykid]

There are 4 Arab countries surrounding Israel which two of them have supportive or neutral attitude toward it right now,Jordan and Egypt,and two others have always been in danger of being attacked by Israeli Army,Syria and Lebanon;so I don't consider this claim that Israel's reason for destablizing region is because it is threatened,while it itself is a threat for its expansionist plans.

The only reason behind Israel's efforts in destablizing area with such acts like this which have been done before too,is to weaken these two countries' stability and security so it can expand its territory into theirs,with Gollan Heights in Syria and Southern parts of Lebanon.

Israel has given back nearly every price of land it's taken in a war. It's given back a price to Egypt that would nearly double its size. Israel was attacked not even a week after it was formed simply because it is a Jewish state. Don't tell me that they are the danger for self defense

[Kahn]

And that's the problem here.

They are not doing this because those men are in serious need of medical treatment;if that was the reason no one would have any problem with that,but without keeping them inbound after medical treatment and providing a field for them to return to Syria and bring them back from territories controled by them any other time to treat them for being able to fight again,they are militarily supporting one of the sides in conflicts.Exactly what Jordan and Turkey are doing too,with financial support from Saudi Arabia and some countries in Europe and America.

It is Military Support,and it is directly for al-Qaeda linked groups,so in this case it cannot be approved at all.

I agree that it's wrong, but I still stand by giving the insurgents in need of medical treatment the proper care they need. What's humane about denying dying men treatment based on political and perceptive differences? Nothing, in my opinion.

My government has sold weapons to some of these groups. To condemn Israel for having conversations, or dealing with them, would be hypocritical of me.

I do not agree with their active participation in prolonging the Syrian conflict.

[Left Now]

I agree that it's wrong, but I still stand by giving the insurgents in need of medical treatment the proper care they need. What's humane about denying dying men treatment based on political and perceptive differences? Nothing, in my opinion.

And I didn't say that woundeds must not recieve medical treatment neither.I just said that it is not an act of "Medical Treatment",but an act of "Military Support",since Israel has an active role in bringing them in and send them back with proper equipments for further injuries in further battlefield conflicts.Until the time it is a "Military Support" and not "Medical Treatment",I see no reason to approve it in general.

My government has sold weapons to some of these groups. To condemn Israel for having conversations, or dealing with them, would be hypocritical of me.

What does it have to do with you being hypocritical?It is what your government has done,and governments do not always act as their people believe they have to.One good example of this is I myself.I support my government in general,because it has been elected by most majority of people,but not all the things which it does.For example about supporting Hamas.

I do not agree with their active participation in prolonging the Syrian conflict

And in some cases,Iraq.

Israel has given back nearly every price of land it's taken in a war. It's given back a price to Egypt that would nearly double its size.


I believe you didn't read what I said:

There are 4 Arab countries surrounding Israel which two of them have supportive or neutral attitude toward it right now,Jordan and Egypt,and two others have always been in danger of being attacked by Israeli Army,Syria and Lebanon;

I was not talking about Egypt,I was talking about Syria and Lebanon.I'm sure you already know that military actions of Israel since at least 20 years ago have 90 percents of time been offensive toward these two nations.

Israel was attacked not even a week after it was formed simply because it is a Jewish state.

Not simply because it was a Jewish state,but because it was a state created by imigrants on the lands which mostly didn't belong to them.

Also,main reason of Arab League attack and Arab-Israeli war has roots in conflicts before Declartion of Israel's statehood and settlers' violence and genocidal behavior toward Palestinians (Mostly Christians and Muslims and in some cases Mizrahi Jews who were native Jews and not of from imigrant ancestory) in both areas with Muslim majority and Non-Muslim majority for clearing more areas for new imigrants and settlers to settle in.

There were many cases of forcing locals leave their lands and houses for new imigrants who were being brought in before Israel's (Today's government) coming to existance,and those who did not leave their properties to them,were massacred.

After Israel got created,stupid rulers of Arab League,stupidly forced their Jewish population to leave their homelands or suffer panic consequences and in some cases even committed genocides,and since they had no other places to go,they went to Israel.After weeks that Israelis' violent behavior and massacaring those Palestinians who were still in their UN-approved territories continued,finally Arab League engaged in a war with Israel and during it,Israel occupied more territories (Lands around Jerusalem were supposed to be in control of Palestinians,but got occupied by Israel during conflicts) from them,with Gaza and north western parts of Sinai in Egyptian territory and West Bank in Jordans terriroty being known as lands belong to Palestinian Government.


Don't tell me that they are the danger for self defense

Well,I am generally talking about these last 20 years ago,and during these years,Israel has attacked both Syria and Lebanon for expanding its territory.I don't call being active in destablizing a whole region an act of self defense,while Israel's intentions for expanding its territories more in Syria and Lebanon are not unknown to anyone.

[Kahn]

And I didn't say that woundeds must not recieve medical treatment neither.I just said that it is not an act of "Medical Treatment",but an act of "Military Support",since Israel has an active role in bringing them in and send them back with proper equipments for further injuries in further battlefield conflicts.Until the time it is a "Military Support" and not "Medical Treatment",I see no reason to approve it in general.

I understood. Where does the article state that the Israelis equip insurgents with weapons upon being healed so that they may wreak more havoc?


What does it have to do with you being hypocritical?It is what your government has done,and governments do not always act as their people believe they have to.One good example of this is I myself.I support my government in general,because it has been elected by most majority of people,but not all the things which it does.For example about supporting Hamas.

Good point. I don't agree with my governments arming insurgents in the middle east either, just to make that clear.

And in some cases,Iraq.


Care to explain? I'm interested in what you mean by this.

[Left Now]

I understood. Where does the article state that the Israelis equip insurgents with weapons upon being healed so that they may wreak more havoc?

I didn't say weapons:

send them back with proper equipments for further injuries in further battlefield conflicts

First Aids suitable for armed forces involved in military operations and struggles.

Good point. I don't agree with my governments arming insurgents in the middle east either, just to make that clear.

Good.

Care to explain? I'm interested in what you mean by this.

Reports have stated that Israel has been in contact with ISIS too,probably providing same "treatment" for members of this group in Syria.With helping its member in Syria,it is helping them in Iraq too.

[Kahn]

I didn't say weapons:

First Aids suitable for armed forces involved in military operations and struggles.

That was misinterpretation on my part.

Reports have stated that Israel has been in contact with ISIS too,probably providing same "treatment" for members of this group in Syria.With helping its member in Syria,it is helping them in Iraq too.

Mind linking the reports?

My stance on offering medical help to who needs it stands as is. Those who survive and are in need of it, deserve it. Sending them back into the field with military first aid is egregious, however, as the caretakers shouldn't be giving them anything they can potentially use to cause more destruction, even if inadvertently by saving lives in the heat of battle.

[Left Now]

That was misinterpretation on my part.

Actually on my part.I should have said more clearly at first.Apologize.



Mind linking the reports?

Of course. (http://www.ibtimes.co.in/un-report-israel-regular-contact-syrian-rebels-including-isis-616404)

My stance on offering medical help to who needs it stands as is. Those who survive and are in need of it, deserve it.

To this point I agree.To other points,not.

Sending them back into the field with military first aid is egregious, however, as the caretakers shouldn't be giving them anything they can potentially use to cause more destruction, even if inadvertently by saving lives in the heat of battle.

That's what exactly I was trying to say.