The future

[MehdiMK]

Hi i will speak about the future
I think that the machines will do every thing, we wont work, we wont need money because all will be free and we will dont die What do you think about the future??

[Vermilion]

I think there will be a new world war leading to mass destruction and the down fall of all government, maybe man kind as well

[SethfromMI]

Hi i will speak about the future i think that the machines will do every thing, we will dont work, we will dont need money because all will be free and we will dont die What do you think about the future??


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we will don't die? how in the world do you propose we will not die? granted, machines are going to do more and more, but that wont mean we won't need money? it means people are going to have to become more dependent on the Government to provide them with what they need. and as the other poster said, I could easily see (sadly) nuclear war happening

[JamesSuperBoy]

[QUOTE=MehdiMK;3086002]Hi i will speak about the future i think that the machines will do every thing, we will dont work, we will dont need money because all will be free and we will dont die What do you think about the future??


I think you have to at least give some idea of how far into the future you see this as being a reality.

Yes more machines for sure a change in how we work but everything free and no one dying is a bit far for me.

[Hyper]

we will don't die? how in the world do you propose we will not die? granted, machines are going to do more and more, but that wont mean we won't need money? it means people are going to have to become more dependent on the Government to provide them with what they need. and as the other poster said, I could easily see (sadly) nuclear war happening

There's plenty of ways for that to happen and all of them are being worked on in science for years now...

Bio-chemistry advances that could stop cells from aging (which is basically what makes you grow old and die)

The idea of ''uploading'' your brain onto machines...

Some even have historically considered transplanting brains into healthy bodies... (que spooky music)

Cloning (though this is highly debatable as in even if a clone is an identical version of you can it really be ''you'')
And with cloning a variation of uploading your memories onto machines would be simply cloning your body and uploading your memories onto the new body... Again a existential debate to be had for sure.


Personally I don't see the future in such sunny colors. I think I will live (provided I live another 50 or so years) to see some incredible technological advancements in medicine come to completion but I think that these will be the joy or luxury of an elite economic class.

[SethfromMI]

There's plenty of ways for that to happen and all of them are being worked on in science for years now...

Bio-chemistry advances that could stop cells from aging (which is basically what makes you grow old and die)

The idea of ''uploading'' your brain onto machines...

Some even have historically considered transplanting brains into healthy bodies... (que spooky music)

Cloning (though this is highly debatable as in even if a clone is an identical version of you can it really be ''you'')
And with cloning a variation of uploading your memories onto machines would be simply cloning your body and uploading your memories onto the new body... Again a existential debate to be had for sure.


Personally I don't see the future in such sunny colors. I think I will live (provided I live another 50 or so years) to see some incredible technological advancements in medicine come to completion but I think that these will be the joy or luxury of an elite economic class.
so you think technology will be so good we will never die?

[Hyper]

so you think technology will be so good we will never die?

I don't know or care

I think that if such technology would exist it would solely be for the economic elite to use.

[SethfromMI]

I don't know or care

I think that if such technology would exist it would solely be for the economic elite to use.

well that I agree with you, but still, as far as technology is going to go, I believe man's days are numbered. some live longer than others, but at some point, we will all have to meet our maker

[IconoclasticHeretic]

I don't know or care

I think that if such technology would exist it would solely be for the economic elite to use.

Not if the future involves smashing capitalism. :yes:

[fairmaiden]

Well the question is a bit vague.

Plenty could happen in the ''future''. We might cure cancer, we'll have much much longer lives, etc.

I hope that poverty will be non-existent, unfortunately I have a feeling that it'll take hundreds (even thousands) of years to eradicate poverty.

Medicine that could cure cancer would most likely be available for the rich/famous only.

I don't really think that a drug that could bring people back from the dead would be helpful. It would only create more upset and grief, especially if it gets in the wrong hands.

Hovercars would be pretty cool. Probably won't happen for 30+ years.

Overall, I just hope there are plenty of medical advances, and hopefully less anger/war in the world than there is now (kinda unlikely).

[Seth Green]

I think nobody has any idea what the future will be like and it's a silly thing to pretend you do.

[AnaPV]

Hi i will speak about the future
I think that the machines will do every thing, we wont work, we wont need money because all will be free and we will dont die What do you think about the future??

We are replacing people for machines more and more. Just go to the supermarket: there aren't as many cashiers as some years ago, cos machines have been instaled instead.

I'm sure there will be more robots and machines. Therefore, there wil also be different jobs. :yeah:

But I don't share your point of view when talking about inmortality. We are animals: we are every living thing. Then, we die. :miss:

[MehdiMK]

I think in the future we will find a form to be inmortal
i am very optimist:lol::lol:

[SethfromMI]

Well the question is a bit vague.

Plenty could happen in the ''future''. We might cure cancer, we'll have much much longer lives, etc.

I hope that poverty will be non-existent, unfortunately I have a feeling that it'll take hundreds (even thousands) of years to eradicate poverty.

Medicine that could cure cancer would most likely be available for the rich/famous only.

I don't really think that a drug that could bring people back from the dead would be helpful. It would only create more upset and grief, especially if it gets in the wrong hands.

Hovercars would be pretty cool. Probably won't happen for 30+ years.

Overall, I just hope there are plenty of medical advances, and hopefully less anger/war in the world than there is now (kinda unlikely).

when they made the Jetsons, they thought we would all have hover cars by this time. I don't anticipate them in my lifetime , even if thye do get clsoer

[Vlerchan]

I have no idea why people think hovercars sound like a good idea.

Self-driving cars are the future. With or without wheels, who cares.

I'm sure there will be more robots and machines. Therefore, there wil also be different jobs.
This just sounds like creating jobs for the sake of it.

[Babs]

Anti-aging technology will be pretty advanced. As will artificial intelligence.
Sea levels will probably be higher due to global warming, unless we do something to change how much we're polluting.
Currency, among many other things, could possibly be entirely digital.

[Miserabilia]

In the case of no new world wars technology will get better, I think bio technology will finally make a breakthrough, the world is gonna realize we need to work on energy sources and life preservation.

[Screw Attack]

Do you guys realize something? If none of us die, but babies are born normally every day, population is going to increase exponentially.

Let's say we develop anti-aging. This would mean the older people who hold a job or a position or land or property etc are gonna hold it forever. They're gonna get richer and richer. They'll be very powerful. This would lead to lot of complications for younger people.

There's a reason the cycle of life exists. OP just created a dystopian sci-fi.

In an isolated system, total energy needs to be conserved ya jerks.

I'm sorry for that physics reference haha.

[MehdiMK]

By Screwattack:
This would mean the older people who hold a job or a position or land or property etc are gonna hold it forever. They're gonna get richer and richer. They'll be very powerful. This would lead to lot of complications for younger people.

i think thats the money wont be important

[Marinamr]

I think in the future we will find a form to be inmortal
i am very optimist:lol::lol:

But I don't think that being inmortal is a good thing :c I mean, I learnt this in an anime (of course xD) but just think a bit about it: life would turn boring, and how about the people who are so depressed that want to die? If they were inmortal, they'd be eternally suffering u.u

[Vlerchan]

Do you guys realize something? If none of us die, but babies are born normally every day, population is going to increase exponentially.
Population has grown exponentially for most of the time since the Industrial Revolution.

I would imagine a host of innovations would work against this though. I'm talking orbital colonies, vertical farming, etc.

Let's say we develop anti-aging. This would mean the older people who hold a job or a position or land or property etc are gonna hold it forever. They're gonna get richer and richer. They'll be very powerful. This would lead to lot of complications for younger people.
You're presuming that people will want to do the same thing over-and-over for the rest of time. I would imagine with anti-ageing their would be a shift towards wanting to experience more things. Earning lots of cash and so on would become meaningless once you've done it long enough and know you can't pass it down. In the workplace it would also just force younger people to be more innovative which I don't see as a bad thing.

[Atom]

Oh em gee, what a thread...

About robots leaving no jobs for us, humans: search for The Luddite Fallacy in your search engine. Second link in google explains it the best, imo.

Aging: it is being actively researched right now and I believe that we are able to make our bodies close to immortal. But that would be against human nature (I hate this phrase,) and would involved A LOT of problems. Really, I can't think of a sphere that it wouldn't change. I personally would love to be immortal though.

...it would also just force younger people to be more innovative which I don't see as a bad thing.
"Force" is the right word. I am sure you are familiar with the situation in Japan, where children (not everyone of course, but enough for it to be a national problem) are forced to commit most of their time to school and adults have to devote 10-12 hours a day to their jobs...
But I don't think that this (the quote) would actually be the case.

[Abhorrence]

All I can think is that in 100 years something would have gone extremely badly and that people will be living in an apocalyptic world.

[Vlerchan]

About robots leaving no jobs for us, humans: search for The Luddite Fallacy in your search engine. Second link in google explains it the best, imo.
Is there a reason to believe the Luddite Fallacy will always hold?

"Force" is the right word. I am sure you are familiar with the situation in Japan, where children (not everyone of course, but enough for it to be a national problem) are forced to commit most of their time to school and adults have to devote 10-12 hours a day to their jobs...

Finite lifespans is a rather important situational factor to consider here. I'm not sure we will have the same culture of fixing oneself to a single job for ones lifetime.

Japanese people also work below the OECD average in terms of hours (1745 < 1765) and the students needing to work so hard is a product of Japanese culture.

[Atom]

Is there a reason to believe the Luddite Fallacy will always hold?
It was observed for the past 100-200 years, so I don't see a reason for it to change, if the world continues to develop at the same pace, of course. I would say that it is foolish to even think beyond the next, let's say, 100 years. Because we hardly can predict what we'll have in the next 10 years.

[Vlerchan]

It was observed for the past 100-200 years, so I don't see a reason for it to change, if the world continues to develop at the same pace, of co[u]rse.
I think there is a few differences here.

The most major one was that there was investment opportunities for the freed-up resources. You had a service sector to develop. That is not so much the case now. It can be seen in the rapid expansion of the financial sector where large amounts of the earned-surplus value of production is pushed. I'm not claiming that we're not going to have jobs in the future but I'm not going to pretend it's the same thing we're facing: the precedent set the last few centuries seems to be unravelling to me.

Not to mention that once we mechanise the production of all our basic needs the set-up we're working with will become redundant. If we're creating new jobs it will be for the sake of jobs

[danielmg]

i think thats the money wont be important

I think that we have to die because if we won't die, the world will have a lot of people

[AnaPV]

But I don't think that being inmortal is a good thing :c I mean, I learnt this in an anime (of course xD) but just think a bit about it: life would turn boring, and how about the people who are so depressed that want to die? If they were inmortal, they'd be eternally suffering u.u


You've just taken the words right out of my mouth! We'd have time to do whatever we want. We won't have like "impossible future dreams", since we could do them for sure.
And there would be more and mooore people on Earth... :scratchchin:

[Saint of Sinners]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Doomsday_argument

Math says we might very well be dead XD

Personally, I really hope in the future we'd be less shitty as a species, but as they say, it's human nature no? Instead of saving the earth we're probably just gonna go conquer the Galaxy in a frenzy of Mining and Genocide.

[MehdiMK]

Math says we might very well be dead
That s can be not true maths can fail if now the mathematic sais this in the futue they can find other solution for life

[Canadian Dream]

From the currents trends in society, I say that yes we will live longer but i doubt that we will live forever. If we don't self-destruct ourselves with nuclear wars, I don't think machines will control everything, because humans always need a certain degree of control over things. Sure we're lazy, but a mechanical failure in systems such as cars or airplanes could lead to catastrophe if mankind isn't able to intervene in such a failure. I think we're smart enough to keep a certain degree of control over things we invent like technology.