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Vlerchan
March 7th, 2015, 10:50 AM
It's in the title:
What are the characteristics of justice to you?
cami
March 7th, 2015, 11:06 AM
I think different cultures have a different meaning for it.
To me, justice is fairness. If it's not fair and equal, then it's not justice.
Danny_boi 16
March 7th, 2015, 12:35 PM
It all depends on the country or society. But in short (to me) justice is the correction of a violation of the law, social order, and or social contact. The presumed guilty party (in eyes of the community), will have an open investigation of possible wrong doings, and be presumed innocent in the eyes of the judge.
Vlerchan
March 7th, 2015, 01:07 PM
Danny_boi 16:
I guess I was a bit vague. I mean to discuss societal justice - what makes an outcome just - as opposed to procedural justice - how we process issues of justice.
Under that conception of justice it's just to hang a homosexual for being a sexual deviant as determined under the law. Or to shoot a man or woman for being adulterous as determined under the law. Now perhaps you figure the law or similar as being an inherently just tool though it reads to me more like you were discussing conceptions of procedural justice.
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I'm also going to be offering a lot more questions than answers in this thread:
It's one of those issues I haven't worked out in my head yet.
Danny_boi 16
March 7th, 2015, 01:28 PM
Danny_boi 16:
I guess I was a bit vague. I mean to discuss societal justice - what makes an outcome just - as opposed to procedural justice - how we process issues of justice.
Under that conception of justice it's just to hang a homosexual for being a sexual deviant as determined under the law. Or to shoot a man or woman for being adulterous as determined under the law. Now perhaps you figure the law or similar as being an inherently just tool though it reads to me more like you were discussing conceptions of procedural justice.
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I'm also going to be offering a lot more questions than answers in this thread:
It's one of those issues I haven't worked out in my head yet.
Forgive me, I misunderstood. I believe in the definition given by the National Association of Social Workers: "Social justice is the view that everyone deserves equal economic, political and social rights and opportunities. " I believe everyone ought to be treated fairly and equally regardless of their identity in any form. Thing can be unjust, such as laws and rulings. Those unjust laws ought to be replied ans those rulings overturned. However, what makes something unjust, is if it feels wrong in conscience or that an overwhelming amount of people think is unjust. For me, what is morally just comes from my catholic upbringing, and that's how I judge the world. It's all too different for different people.
Atom
March 7th, 2015, 03:18 PM
Interesting question, I've never thought about it but the first thing that comes to mind is:
Justice - is what the majority (the main, bigger part) of the population thinks is right.
Usually that's how it works?
Microcosm
March 7th, 2015, 05:09 PM
People always preach equality. Personally, I'd like to preach justice. Is Hitler equal to any other rational human being? Naturally speaking, yes. He is equal in his potential for rationality, good, evil, thought, and all other traits which are specific to humanity, but, justice is the greater thought. It is judging someone on who they are really. Not by any physical trait, or how they appear to be. It is judging someone on their true nature or by the very core nature of their actions.
Hyper
March 7th, 2015, 07:36 PM
Justice for me is measured by the action against my own moral compass - what is right and wrong (for me) and then how right or wrong said action is - vs the outcome... I can't really think of a pretty description for it but it is an interesting question.
The problem is that what is ''fair'' and ''right'' or ''wrong'' are relative & perspective based... What you think is bad/wrong is not necessarily a universally shared thought.
Kahn
March 8th, 2015, 03:12 AM
It's in the title:
What are the characteristics of justice to you?
Justice is circumstantial. As Hyper said, what is considered fair or right by one person could be considered heinous and out of line by another. It depends on the individuals involved, and their sets of principles and morals.
In my opinion, justice is best observed in the pursuit of righteousness, or in conflicts of morality.
tovaris
March 8th, 2015, 08:48 AM
Justice is what the law defines as justice. (or at leest thats how this country sees it)
Seth Green
March 8th, 2015, 05:15 PM
Kira is justice.
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