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Microcosm
February 23rd, 2015, 06:18 PM
I was watching this incredibly awesome video:Click Me (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=skwl9axYSIE)

And I realized just how short America's culture has fallen. Italy is such a beautiful place. And many European countries are full of culture and history and wonder, but America is just kind of meh compared to them. It's probably just because America is kind of a young country in comparison with Italy and Germany or France.

Hyper
February 23rd, 2015, 06:36 PM
The grass is almost always greener on the other side.

Granted I am not a big fan of what I perceive to be American culture. But never having been to the States I'm keeping an open mind :P

thatcountrykid
February 23rd, 2015, 07:54 PM
Depends what part of America you are looking at and if you understand that part. America is a mixing pot of everything but people tried to "Americanize" when they were building off what other immigrants brought.

dirtyboxer55
February 23rd, 2015, 07:55 PM
I was watching this incredibly awesome video:Click Me (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=skwl9axYSIE)

And I realized just how short America's culture has fallen. Italy is such a beautiful place. And many European countries are full of culture and history and wonder, but America is just kind of meh compared to them. It's probably just because America is kind of a young country in comparison with Italy and Germany or France.

foreign countries always seem better at first because their foreign. the awe effect wears off after about 2 weeks (imo).

also how does this make americas culture sad?

JamesSuperBoy
February 23rd, 2015, 08:04 PM
It can seem like that but what you see is a tourist promo video and centuries of history.

What is the reality?

Isabella_
February 23rd, 2015, 08:13 PM
European culture can be nice and all, but how many of those countries will be selling that culture because of their insane debt

Thunderstorm
February 23rd, 2015, 08:17 PM
You see other countries as great because of the problems we face in the US. However, our problems pale in comparison to many other countries such as Greece, which is always on Austerity budget. And Italy, which has faced a threat from ISIL and looms dangerously close to the Middle East. France, which has harsh treatment of the Jews.

Culturally, they are more advanced. Economically, Politically and Diplomatically, you fare much better off here in the US. Be grateful for where and what you have been born into.

TheBigUnit
February 23rd, 2015, 08:18 PM
dude, America's culture is the most influential in the world (as of right now). Ive been around different places in the world and can safely make that statement

SethfromMI
February 23rd, 2015, 09:04 PM
well as far as paintings and stuff go, America compared to most, if not all countries in Europe, is still on the newer side. but America still has a lot of culture, you just got to go to the right places

Microcosm
February 23rd, 2015, 10:39 PM
foreign countries always seem better at first because their foreign. the awe effect wears off after about 2 weeks (imo).

also how does this make americas culture sad?

It's just kind of boring imo. It's not like insulting anyone or anything. We need to have an American cultural revolution or something. That'd be rad.

JamesSuperBoy
February 23rd, 2015, 10:43 PM
It's just kind of boring imo. It's not like insulting anyone or anything. We need to have an American cultural revolution or something. That'd be rad.

What would you like to see happen?

Plane And Simple
February 24th, 2015, 03:35 PM
This is turning into more of a debate, and it involves the sharing and questioning of ideas, therefore:

TWPR :arrow2: ROTW

Vlerchan
February 24th, 2015, 04:14 PM
It's just kind of boring imo. It's not like insulting anyone or anything. We need to have an American cultural revolution or something. That'd be rad.
It's boring because it's so ubiquitous and not because it's lacking:

Consider American culture: What comes to mind?

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Economically, Politically and Diplomatically, you fare much better off here in the US.
Using what measures? You cite some pretty arbitrary and non-shared valuations above.

The only point of real criticism is our economic state - and I disagree with the policies in this area - and even then outcomes are still in general better than in the US.

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European culture can be nice and all, but how many of those countries will be selling that culture because of their insane debt[?]
Zero.

amgb
February 24th, 2015, 06:25 PM
Italy is definitely a beautiful place I want to go to someday.

dude, America's culture is the most influential in the world (as of right now). Ive been around different places in the world and can safely make that statement

I agree. Because America has such a large population, its diverse culture is influenced by so many other cultures around the world, and vice versa. I wouldn't agree that its culture has fallen, I'd say its grown and is continuing to grow.

Microcosm
February 24th, 2015, 06:43 PM
Perhaps the title is a little misleading. I don't hate American culture or anything.

Wanderer_
February 27th, 2015, 02:36 AM
The nonsense - my experience of Anericans is a generous, caring, socially just people who take action for what they believe in

Not always right but that's mostly politics not the people

Sedrick
February 27th, 2015, 08:45 AM
In Europe, all the countries are (comparatively) small and are close together. The potential for really diverse intercultural exchange that they have there is not really equalled anywhere else, especially here. Granted, our country being the size that it is, we definitely rub shoulders with different cultures, customs, world views, etc. But not nearly on the scale that they have Over There. You could go on a train trip from Paris to the tip of Italy. And every country has its own unique government, it's own culture and art, different historical figures, architecture... It almost reminds me of space travel, hyper jumping from planet to planet and wallowing in the diversity...

Given the opportunity, I would leave the U.S. and live in Europe. It must be amazing.

Or maybe I'm just romanticizing it all. :p

JamesSuperBoy
February 27th, 2015, 09:13 AM
Perhaps the title is a little misleading. I don't hate American culture or anything.
I did not think that is what you meant





In Europe, all the countries are (comparatively) small and are close together. The potential for really diverse intercultural exchange that they have there is not really equalled anywhere else, especially here. Granted, our country being the size that it is, we definitely rub shoulders with different cultures, customs, world views, etc. But not nearly on the scale that they have Over There. You could go on a train trip from Paris to the tip of Italy. And every country has its own unique government, it's own culture and art, different historical figures, architecture... It almost reminds me of space travel, hyper jumping from planet to planet and wallowing in the diversity...

Given the opportunity, I would leave the U.S. and live in Europe. It must be amazing.

Or maybe I'm just romanticizing it all. :p

In the history of Europe trains are relatively new. What culture we do have that stands out for visitors was more to do with the wealth of a few and the need to show it off. As Castles and Palaces were built. With artists employed to create work. It is older than The USA but in Europe surprise many look at American culture and design and see that as good. It is not better or worse just different.

phuckphace
February 27th, 2015, 09:42 AM
I'd say most of Europe generally has less trashy culture than the US. it certainly exists but we top it easily. Europe is just an all-around better place to live in most cases.

I've mentioned before that living in the US feels like playing one of those pay-to-win MMOs with micro-transactions everywhere. the nickel-and-diming around here is ridiculous. you literally can't swing a dead cat without hitting some asshole capitalist with his palm out for your golds. hell Europe even does capitalism better than we do (not bad for commie socialists)

Miserabilia
February 27th, 2015, 03:40 PM
I'd say most of Europe generally has less trashy culture than the US. it certainly exists but we top it easily. Europe is just an all-around better place to live in most cases.



Yuup.

What most europeans (and americans) don't realize (like I used to) is that america isn't actualy a rich and wealthy and healthy paradise to live in. So many american people live in poverty, it's entire structure is very different from western europe. Just the fact that there are giant empty areas of land in such a giant part of the US is hard to imagine in western european and scandinavian countries that have pretty much been urbanized completely with a high population density.

tovaris
March 1st, 2015, 09:25 AM
What is the diference between USA and yogurt? At leest yogurt has a colture.
#LCA

DoodleSnap
March 2nd, 2015, 06:17 PM
Places away from home often seem compelling and/or beautiful. "The grass is always greener on the other side." Although, I think that there are sad and negative parts in nearly every culture, as culture is just a representation of human expression; so the negative parts are going to manifest themselves somewhere.

NewZealand
March 3rd, 2015, 03:23 AM
Culturally, they are more advanced. Economically, Politically and Diplomatically, you fare much better off here in the US. Be grateful for where and what you have been born into.
Economically?? America is in huge dept, and over 45 million american live below the poverty line, that's over 15 African countires whole populations combined, using African countires because it is often used when relating to poverty.

Because America has such a large population
Look at both India and China, awesome, amazing cultures, over a billion people each.
The nonsense - my experience of Anericans is a generous, caring, socially just people who take action for what they believe in
Not always right but that's mostly politics not the people
Being generous and caring isnt a cultures, and in fact from what ive experienced, it's not overly either of those anyway.

In Europe, all the countries are (comparatively) small and are close together. The potential for really diverse intercultural exchange that they have there is not really equalled anywhere else, especially here. Granted
I dont think that being close together or size creats or diminishes culture, il once again use China as an example, huge and amazing culture, on the other end of the scale, small pacific island cultures such as Tonga has an incredible culture, and is tiny and relatively isolated


Though I seem to be taking on american head on, I actually do believe that America does have a culture, very diverse and influential, I like to think of culture as things that are different to other cultures. When I comes to heaven, then are many different parts of its culture that stand out, it's sporting(baseball, gridiron) which are both not really played anywhere else. Hollywood and the miniculture that comes off that alone. Rednecks... Who doesn't love rednecks ahahahha!!?! The red Indians aswell, can't forget them as they have the oldest culture in America, on that point. I think that what people are thinking when they doubt american culture is that it isn't like other cultures in that its young and modern(in parts) and hasn't come through the generations much like the red Indiana culture, and it is sad that that isn't a huge main part of American life

Thunderstorm
March 3rd, 2015, 08:23 PM
Economically?? America is in huge dept, and over 45 million american live below the poverty line, that's over 15 African countires whole populations combined, using African countires because it is often used when relating to poverty.




You're not getting the point though. Yes, that may be 15 African countries but African countries are also much less densely populated. 45 million is actually only about 12% of the population, compared to about 90% of an average African country being in poverty. Get your facts right.

NewZealand
March 4th, 2015, 05:23 AM
You're not getting the point though. Yes, that may be 15 African countries but African countries are also much less densely populated. 45 million is actually only about 12% of the population, compared to about 90% of an average African country being in poverty. Get your facts right.


So you think the USA is a lot more densly populated? When last meassured there were 44 people per square km, as for subsaharah africa? 46, the difference doesn't seem like much to me.(http://www.tradingeconomics.com) You are telling me to get my facts right? 14% of usa live below the poverty line, yeah only 2% off, those sixish million people don't matter anyway. No, not 90 percent of Africans live In poverty, according to a little investigation I found only around 51% of the population of subsaharah africa live in extreme poverty . (http://www.indexmundi.com/map/?v=69&r=af&l=en. http://borgenproject.org/10-quick-facts-about-poverty-in-africa/)

What I'm trying to say is that for a first world country, that is leading the world in innovation and seemingly has endless wealth, it still has a huge number of people in poverty, not to mention that it's actually in over 12 trillion dollars of dept!
Or what about the awesome public funding? How about if you fall off your friends ladder, instead of having free medical because it's an accident. You sue them for all they have, great friends...

Jason The Great
March 4th, 2015, 06:25 AM
USA is a good place for living and as long as it is good it doesn't need culture.
Look at my country , Iran. It have a culture of more than 5000 years and see what Iran is right now , right this very second. It's no dream.

Vlerchan
March 4th, 2015, 06:51 AM
14% of usa live below the poverty line, yeah only 2% off, those sixish million people don't matter anyway. No, not 90 percent of Africans live In poverty, according to a little investigation I found only around 51% of the population of subsaharah africa live in extreme poverty .
That's relative impoverishment in the US being cited.

It's no comparison to the absolute rates in Africa.

... not to mention that it's actually in over 12 trillion dollars of dept!
It's 17 trillion.

But then it's debt as a percentage of GDP that matters. The US still does quite poor (~100%) but but the first world averages ~80% - Japan's at >250% - so it's not so bad in comparison.