Ukrainian Military Pulling Out of Debaltseve

[Exocet]

On Wednesday, Ukrainian President Petro Poroshenko announced that government troops were withdrawn from the strategic transport hub of Debaltseve in eastern Ukraine, where about 5,000 soldiers had been surrounded by independence supporters.

http://sputniknews.com/europe/20150218/1018413743.html



Novorossian fighters raise their flag over Debaltsevo !!!! :metal: :metal:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c06rcMX5czI


One day,this man will be judged.
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American counter battery radar captured by NAF. Serial number is 369.
(The Novorossian fighters say thanks to the American Taxpayers!! :metal: )

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[JamesSuperBoy]

The whole situation is bad - I hope it ends quickly.

[Exocet]

The whole situation is bad - I hope it ends quickly.


It won't.
It will continue til the Donbass is cleaned of the Nazis groups (Azov,Aydar for exemple) backed by the US and their puppets (EU)

http://libertariannation.com/wp/wp-content/uploads/2014/11/Azov-neo-nazi-720x340.jpg

[thatcountrykid]

I hope Nato goes in and kicks the rebels asses

[Exocet]

I hope Nato goes in and kicks the rebels asses

Yeah sure ... Haha. NATO will never fight real fighters without any intensive aerial support. They're so "courageous".
They will hunt Ukrainian soldiers (and the mercenaries) til the last. :metal:

http://i.imgur.com/Ni6RCZ1.jpg
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[thatcountrykid]

Yeah sure ... Haha. NATO will never fight real fighters without any intensive aerial support. They're so "courageous".
They will hunt Ukrainian soldiers (and the mercenaries) til the last. :metal:

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You don't understand combat do you.l? Fight to win. They use air support because you do what it takes to ensure you'r win. Fuck fighting fair.

I can tell they've got you pretty well brainwashed, Putin and his dumbasses.

[Exocet]

You don't understand combat do you.l? Fight to win. They use air support because you do what it takes to ensure you'r win. Fuck fighting fair.

I can tell they've got you pretty well brainwashed, Putin and his dumbasses.

That's what i say,without any aerial support,on the ground you're nothing,these men,yesterday were farmers,doctors,and today soldiers and guess what ? they're literally slaughtering the ukrainian troops without any aerial support... i won't imagine how they will slaughter NATO armies,when we saw how a bunch of Talibans killed 3'000 of them.
(Also,there are no russian troops there,as porkishenko is always claiming,where are the proofs ? If russian army was there,they will be parading in Kiev,Odessa,Lviv right now. :metal: :yeah:)

What did you want them to do ?
You backed hooligans and Neo Nazis to overthrow a president that was elected,then your savage puppet used his artillery to strike civilian areas, (there was a video where the rebels captured an artillery base,they found a map where it showed several places to shell,such as hospitals,suburbs etc. in Donetsk),any place in the Donbass,i won't show you graphic pics or videos,so,stay here and watch ? They took their weapons,and will fight til the last Ukrainian soldier (and the mercenaries of the Nazis groups,A3ob,Aydar etc..) is killed.
This is funny how in the western medias,they are diabolising the rebels,and never talked about the nazi groups,their crimes,the shelling of civilian areas by the govt forces.
I won't support Nato and their crimes in Libya,Iraq,Yugoslavia etc,i'm not brainwashed,unlike some. :yeah: :yes:

Damn,i love this video. :metal:

WU_TOK3xkwE

(They should be happy,if they were rebels and captured by ukrainian soldiers,they be will killed within a second on the ground.)

[thatcountrykid]

That's what i say,without any aerial support,on the ground you're nothing,these men,yesterday were farmers,doctors,and today soldiers and guess what ? they're literally slaughtering the ukrainian troops without any aerial support... i won't imagine how they will slaughter NATO armies,when we saw how a bunch of Talibans killed 3'000 of them.
(Also,there are no russian troops there,as porkishenko is always claiming,where are the proofs ? If russian army was there,they will be parading in Kiev,Odessa,Lviv right now. :metal: :yeah:)

What did you want them to do ?
You backed hooligans and Neo Nazis to overthrow a president that was elected,then your savage puppet used his artillery to strike civilian areas, (there was a video where the rebels captured an artillery base,they found a map where it showed several places to shell,such as hospitals,suburbs etc. in Donetsk),any place in the Donbass,i won't show you graphic pics or videos,so,stay here and watch ? They took their weapons,and will fight til the last Ukrainian soldier (and the mercenaries of the Nazis groups,A3ob,Aydar etc..) is killed.
This is funny how in the western medias,they are diabolising the rebels,and never talked about the nazi groups,their crimes,the shelling of civilian areas by the govt forces.
I won't support Nato and their crimes in Libya,Iraq,Yugoslavia etc,i'm not brainwashed,unlike some. :yeah: :yes:

Damn,i love this video. :metal:

WU_TOK3xkwE

(They should be happy,if they were rebels and captured by ukrainian soldiers,they be will killed within a second on the ground.)

Yeah buddy you're still not understanding what I'm saying.

I guess you've missed the videos of the rebel grad attacks hitting civilians.

Yes I've seen the unkranian forces have killed civilians and yes three thousand Americans died against Taliban and al Qaeda in how many years of war? I never said we were invincibl.

[Exocet]

They probably shelled once or twice civilian areas,but when the Ukrainian army is shelling almost everydays Donest,Luhansk etc. your medias are ignoring it.

[thatcountrykid]

They probably shelled once or twice civilian areas,but when the Ukrainian army is shelling almost everydays Donest,Luhansk etc. your medias are ignoring it.

Once or twice is still a crime. You can't choose who is committing a crime when doing the same. Majority of the civilians area like that are evac from what I have seenu do those are where the rebels are at. I've seen the videos of rebels in civilian houses and grads in barns.

[Stronk Serb]

Honestly, Russia must be sending in gear and troops over the border. The rebels are fighting too good. I heard ten nazis from Serbia went to fight the rebels. I support Ukraine on this.

[Exocet]

Once or twice is still a crime. You can't choose who is committing a crime when doing the same. Majority of the civilians area like that are evac from what I have seenu do those are where the rebels are at. I've seen the videos of rebels in civilian houses and grads in barns.


More than 95% of the shelling on civilian areas is made by the Ukrainian troops,the National guard,and the nazi groups (mercenaries) that are fighting for Kiev. This is funny though,nobody condemn them. BUT,when the rebels shelled once or twice civilian areas,on western TVs,you can see "Breaking news : The Rebels shelled civilian areas. "
(PS : It is funny to see an american talking about crimes,because your army is in general,the master considering war crimes,no.... the best alongside the israeli army.)

Ukrainian army shelling civilian areas in Lugansk.

http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=e49_1423856270


While the rebels try to attack only military positions

Some Ukrainian military positions literally destroyed by rebels shelling :metal:

http://i67.fastpic.ru/big/2014/0901/21/d50cd48de78db204678d16d1cf223621.jpg
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Honestly, Russia must be sending in gear and troops over the border. The rebels are fighting too good. I heard ten nazis from Serbia went to fight the rebels. I support Ukraine on this.

Most of the material of the rebels was captured from the Ukrainian forces,there are a lot of Russian volonteers,and probably some Russian advisers,the russian military support is limited.
Conserning the borders :

Dutch Experts Detect No Russian Military Activities in Rostov Region

http://sputniknews.com/military/20150220/1018509984.html#ixzz3SUvYlnmq

On the first pic,Serbian and French volunteers,the rest,some of the serbian volunteers that are fighting alongside the rebels of Novorssia !

http://www.militaryphotos.net/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=226705&d=1414502814
http://www.militaryphotos.net/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=226704&d=1414502779
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[thatcountrykid]

[QUOTE=Exocet;3070935]More than 95% of the shelling on civilian areas is made by the Ukrainian troops,the National guard,and the nazi groups (mercenaries) that are fighting for Kiev. This is funny though,nobody condemn them. BUT,when the rebels shelled once or twice civilian areas,on western TVs,you can see "Breaking news : The Rebels shelled civilian areas. "
(PS : It is funny to see an american talking about crimes,because your army is in general,the master considering war crimes,no.... the best alongside the israeli army.)

Ukrainian army shelling civilian areas in Lugansk.

http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=e49_1423856270


While the rebels try to attack only military positions

Some Ukrainian military positions literally destroyed by rebels shelling :metal:

image (http://i67.fastpic.ru/big/2014/0901/21/d50cd48de78db204678d16d1cf223621.jpg)
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Most of the material of the rebels was captured from the Ukrainian forces,there are a lot of Russian volonteers,and probably some Russian advisers,the russian military support is limited.
Conserning the borders :

Dutch Experts Detect No Russian Military Activities in Rostov Region

http://sputniknews.com/military/20150220/1018509984.html#ixzz3SUvYlnmq

On the first pic,Serbian and French volunteers,the rest,some of the serbian volunteers that are fighting alongside the rebels of Novorssia !

image (http://www.militaryphotos.net/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=226705&d=1414502814)
image (http://www.militaryphotos.net/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=226704&d=1414502779)
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Give it a rest with the propaganda photos. I don't give a shit. You seem to condem the unkranian government for something rebels have done as well. It sure must feel great to worship and idolize cowards who hide their weapons in houses

[Exocet]

I condemn it,even if they don't do it on purpose,the Ukrainian army shelled civilian areas many times,but nobody condems it,that's the reality. :)
If you talk about the rebels in the Donbass,take your balls and show me where they hide their weapons in houses,i wanna see pics,videos.
(PS: that's not the propaganda,but the truth,and if you say so,if it makes you feel better,yes it's propaganda hahahaha.)

[Stronk Serb]

More than 95% of the shelling on civilian areas is made by the Ukrainian troops,the National guard,and the nazi groups (mercenaries) that are fighting for Kiev. This is funny though,nobody condemn them. BUT,when the rebels shelled once or twice civilian areas,on western TVs,you can see "Breaking news : The Rebels shelled civilian areas. "
(PS : It is funny to see an american talking about crimes,because your army is in general,the master considering war crimes,no.... the best alongside the israeli army.)

Ukrainian army shelling civilian areas in Lugansk.

http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=e49_1423856270


While the rebels try to attack only military positions

Some Ukrainian military positions literally destroyed by rebels shelling :metal:

image (http://i67.fastpic.ru/big/2014/0901/21/d50cd48de78db204678d16d1cf223621.jpg)
image (http://i67.fastpic.ru/big/2014/0901/a7/3a5b213f5fa17bd0fbea8e454e8ea9a7.jpg)
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Most of the material of the rebels was captured from the Ukrainian forces,there are a lot of Russian volonteers,and probably some Russian advisers,the russian military support is limited.
Conserning the borders :

Dutch Experts Detect No Russian Military Activities in Rostov Region

http://sputniknews.com/military/20150220/1018509984.html#ixzz3SUvYlnmq

On the first pic,Serbian and French volunteers,the rest,some of the serbian volunteers that are fighting alongside the rebels of Novorssia !

image (http://www.militaryphotos.net/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=226705&d=1414502814)
image (http://www.militaryphotos.net/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=226704&d=1414502779)
image (http://www.militaryphotos.net/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=226709&d=1414503006)
image (http://www.militaryphotos.net/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=226708&d=1414502885)

Yet you don't call them mercanaries. They glorify the chetniks who cooperated with the Nazis during WW2, butchefing their own people, they treated us worse than the Nazis. It's sad they go to die for Russia, considering the fact that Russia fucked us over as much as the US did. And the rebels are using the top of the line Russian ratnik combat gear, which is not exported to Ukraine.

[Exocet]

They aren't mercenaries,because they don't get paid by the rebels,they come and fight with their brothers.
While Ukraine pays their mercenaries and is even giving them the Ukrainian citizenship.

Porkishenko gave an Ukrainian passport to a Belarussian mercenary of the Nazi group,Azov.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/B4v4mydCcAEYFui.png

I won't talk about the ~400 mercenaries of Academi (former blackwater) that are fighting in E Ukraine. (German medias reported it,it doesn't come from Russian sources.)

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BsXHcMrCMAAQ3HF.png

One has been caught in Mariupol some days ago. (0;20)

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Some rebels are equipped with some parts of the Ratnik gear,you won't see one with the full gear.

[Hyper]

The rebels try to attack only military positions while they make their ''base camps'' in civilian areas.

As for your volunteers at least half of them are mercenaries, dogs of war aka human filth. (What sources do you have that the pro rebel volunteers aren't paid at all?)

It's sad how people on both sides have been brain washed and a country is being torn apart for the interests of other nations (Russia, US, EU)

[Exocet]

Nothing happened in Ukraine til NATO,US backed hooligans/Nazis that overthrowed Yanukovich that was elected by the people some years ago.
Because,the Russians don't have the same mentality as others,when they see their brothers being slaughtered like nothing by the Ukrainian army,they won't sit there and watch this "show",it is normal for them to come and fight with their brothers,and other european volunteers came in E Ukraine because they felt that they can't stay here and watch what's Ukraine doing to the people of Donbass without any impunity..... (But those that are helping the Kiev,(many Nazis from all Europe,many from Nordic countries)junta are getting paid,and they even receive the Ukrainian citienship,as i said below.)
(I'm aware of what's happening in Ukraine,i'm not brainwashed thinking that the US,their European puppets and porkishenko are the good in this story and the rest evils.)

Concerning the people of Donbass,see what Porkishenko thinks about them....

"We will have our jobs,they won't. We will have our pensions,they won't. We will have care for children,for people and retirees,they won't. Our children will go to schools and kindergartens,theirs will hole up in the basements,because they aren't able to do a thing. This is exactly,how we'll win this war !"

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[Hyper]

Lol right Russias brotherly love is the same as the US brotherly love - nothing but self interest.

But have fun believing what you believe while ordinary people die & suffer for their freedom/Russias economic interest/USAs continued dominance.

[Exocet]

The US doesn't give a shit about Ukraine,they just seek their interests right,while for Russia/Novorossia it is a war of case of extrem self-defense and to stop the expension of NATO near Russian borders.
Everyone is free to believe what he wants. ;)

[Hyper]

The US doesn't give a shit about Ukraine,they just seek their interests right,while for Russia/Novorossia it is a war of case of extrem self-defense and to stop the expension of NATO near Russian borders.
Everyone is free to believe what he wants. ;)

Yeah I'm just going to assume you aren't born in a former Soviet block country...

If Russia had no ''interests'' then why annex Crimea?

[Exocet]

Yeah I'm just going to assume you aren't born in a former Soviet block country...

If Russia had no ''interests'' then why annex Crimea?

Because there are many Russian speakers in the peninsula,the people here wanted to be attached to Russia,a large part of the population disapproved when the Crimea was given to the Ukrainian republic,but nobody almost care,because they were living under the same country,USSR till it disintegrated... so,to protect them from the Nazis of Maidan (the people approved it,where's the problem?) and also because there's the russian black sea fleet that is based in Sevastopol,that is vital to Russia.

[Hyper]

Because there are many Russian speakers in the peninsula,the people here wanted to be attached to Russia,a large part of the population disapproved when the Crimea was given to the Ukrainian republic,but nobody almost care,because they were living under the same country,USSR till it disintegrated... so,to protect them from the Nazis of Maidan (the people approved it,where's the problem?)

You forgot the part about controlling a bigger part of the black sea thus gaining more leverage regarding gas pipelines and also a large piece of sea where a massive pipeline is currently planned...

Your source for the desire of annexation is the referendum? And who are these people that disapproved of the Crimean peninsula being given to the Ukrainians while they were in the CCCP?

Probably not the ethnic tartars who are you know the real natives there, granted by now a minority in their own homeland.

Ohh and this part..

and also because there's the russian black sea fleet that is based in Sevastopol,that is vital to Russia.

So a part of it was Russias self interest, huh go figure..

Btw where are you getting this ''Maidan nazis'' from? Just wondering are the Baltics, Poland, Romania full of nazis too?

[Exocet]

Everyone that isn't brainwashed knows that,you backed the guys of Svoboda and Praviy Sektor. :D
Just see who's the Deputy Head of Kyiv Regional Police. :P

http://defence.pk/attachments/ufnk7z2p8uc-1-jpg.159935/
http://defence.pk/attachments/507-1-jpg.159941/

After the protests in Kyiv "Hitler Liberator"

http://frant.me/files/images/bh/da/a7625ae8a4d95197ecdc932e6ebc5c64.jpg

Many of them are "fans" of Bandera.

[Hyper]

I backed? You don't even know who I am or where I'm from.

Show your sources for those pictures and your videos.